doggies primary melee stat?

[ottoemobeel]

<p>i promise i did try to search(altho there's a million nicknames for the spirit wolf, so i dunno if i missed)</p><p>does anyone know what the primary melee attack power stat is for the dog? before SF, i would have assumed STR, cuz that was pretty across the board, but now that the mystic himself is wisdom, does anyone know if the dog is still str?</p><p>or i might just be entirely off, and maybe the puppy doesn't scale with stats? i know in alot of MMO's pets didn't or don't scale until some point in the MMO's life, when pet classes complain about their overall scaling. i'm fairly new to EQ2(been playing about 4-5 months now), but i played EQ1 for 6 years or so, and WoW for 5.</p><p>the whole point of asking this is that i just recently got ancestral avatar, and while soloing, i'm wondering if it would be better on the pet than on me(i have no points in the talent that adds WIS to it).</p><p>thanks for any response, and again, i'm sorry if this has been asked before.</p>

[Lemilla]

<p>Assuming the spirit companion is following the same rules as the primary pets for summoners, it will use your own wisdom for damage. The stats on the pet don't do anything.</p><p>But if it's still using its own stats it will be strenght, as the spirit companion is a warrior. Not sure how consistent they have been with the changes for pets at the start of the expansion.</p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

<p>Even if you have not added the points into it, Avatar is always nice on yourself when soloing.  It used to be a lot more so when STR was used for melee damage, but now, pretty much just the AGI and STA.  AGI is good for you defense, and the STA for HP (and outright resists if you play on PvP server)</p>

[Banditman]

<p>Would be nice to know.  Easy enough to test.</p><p>Take off all your gear, drop a training dummy, let the pet attack it for 5 minutes or so.  Put on all your WIS gear, repeat.</p><p>If our pet is using shared stats like the Summoner pets, it will be really obvious, really quickly.</p>

[Adegx]

<p>Got me curious now. Anyone done any testing yet? Cant get into game atm to try this.</p>

[Tehom]

<p>The dog is fighter-class, I believe, so that'd make him strength. Some fighter-target only things will allow you to use the dog as a valid target.</p>

[Banditman]

<p><cite>Chath@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The dog is fighter-class, I believe, so that'd make him strength. Some fighter-target only things will allow you to use the dog as a valid target.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, understand that.  However, Summoner pets, regardless of their actual class, derive their primary stat from the OWNER's primary stat.  So, say a Conjuror pulls out his Fighter pet.  Typically, you'd say that it's DPS would be governed by it's STR, or, it's owner's STR.  Not so.  The damage is governed by the owner's INT.</p><p>The owner's primary stat governs the damage output of any pet, regardless of the class of the pet.  At least, it works that way for Summoners.  The question is whether it works that way for Shaman as well.</p>

[ottoemobeel]

<p>after posting this, i decided to do some really really basic testing. nothing thorough or in depth, and so far only in relation to the pets strength.</p><p>testing the pet fighting a same level/same type mob with no str buffs on me or pet, and then a set with ancestral avatar on pet along with mammoth up on both of us(adding about 120 str to the pet, about 60 to me at my current level), and then a set with ancestral avatar on me and mammoth up on both of us(reversing the last set, about 120 str on me, 60 on pet)</p><p>as i said, this was really basic testing, with only about 2 min of pet-only attacking on same level/same type of mob for each set up, but among all of them, i noticed no difference at all in max hit, min hit, and avg hit.</p><p>i haven't done any testing with my own wisdom yet, but i feel fairly confident that str on the pat itself makes no difference.</p>

[ottoemobeel]

<p>ok, just did an even smaller sampling of testing to try my own wisdom</p><p>a minute or so of pet attacking while i have ursine up on myself(90wis at my level), and a minute or so with ursine off of myself, and i seemed to notice about a 30-40 point drop in min hit, max hit, and avg hit</p><p>again, likes i said, really really basic testing with really small samplings, but it's enough for me to feel very confident(at least for my own game) that our self wisdom effects the pet, and any str does not.</p><p>it's not enough evidence to where i'd start telling people 'how it is', just enough for myself.</p>

[Tehom]

<p>Oh, that's interesting. If it's the case that dogdog uses shared stats, then it may have been a global change for all class pets - which means that things like possessed essence for coercers and personae for illusionists may be the same way, too.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>The official answer is yes, your Wisdom affects the crushing damage done by the dog.</p><p>Obviously, the dog hits so small that it isn't a "massive" difference, but there is definitely a difference.</p><p>With 1501 Wisdom, my dog hit for an average of 498.  With 414 Wisdom, my dog hit for an average of 371.</p><p>34% increase in damage.  Nice percentage wise, but again, the size of the hits just isn't that big.</p>

[Deeply]

<p>I just noticed this thread, as I have been wondering the same.</p><p>However, the one thing I did notice in game with a bit of testing, is the AA attack CA for the dog (under the Shaman tab, Str tree) the damage done is based on the mystics Str.</p><p>Does anyone know if this is a bug, or as intended?</p>

[Banditman]

<p>That should be a bug, I hadn't noticed it myself.  Probably just overlooked.</p>