Order of Marr crusade

[Ascanius]

<p>Vhalen wrote this long ago</p><p>"Lucan knew they must be on a new crusade... a secret crusade. It was within the Overrealm that some of you learned a portion of that secret crusade. You know that they are caretakers of a great artifact. They may not truly understand the origin or purpose of that artifact, but they know that the fate of Norrath is tied to it. And if some of you know about that crusade, then I can assure you that Lucan is well aware of it also. It just may be that Sir Lucan D'Lere knows more about their secret crusade than they do."</p><p>Since the swords are useless now after they get drianed of their powers what is the Order of Marr up too now, since  their secret crusade is over now in great failure since rohen theer was able to obtain the swords of destiny for a little while.Also when will we see LIONHEART CASTLE and Busheldown like the first 2 zones ever made in this game, Ive been waiting a long time very long time. any devs please toss me a bone atleast keep me busy for another few years ;p</p>

[Maergoth]

<p>No one has seen the final text from the Roehn Theer fight. The quest journal update isn't supposed to give it away.</p><p>4 Rune theer hasn't been slain, so we don't know if there's any more to it beyond what we are misgiven in the quest journal.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Mitharius@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Also when will we see LIONHEART CASTLE and Busheldown like the first 2 zones ever made in this game, Ive been waiting a long time very long time. any devs please toss me a bone atleast keep me busy for another few years ;p</p></blockquote><p>Probably never, since a few different devs have said quite a few times that those zones were only designed to test out some of the core mechanics of the game, and probably weren't going to be used as in-game zones anyway. The experiments of the mechanics turned out to be a success, but the zones themselves where technical failures.</p><p>Also, Lionheart Castle? Aren't you thinking of Marr's Fist? I certainly don't recall ever hearing about a Lionheart Castle zone in this game, even from pre-alpha.</p><p>In a manner of speaking, Marr's Fist is in the game. Deathfyst Citadel is supposedly very loosely based off the original design, and DFC itself is a technical failure since it has always been notorious for causing memory leaks on your computer, cases of graphics not rendering, and characters falling through the world.</p>

[Ascanius]

<p>nope im talking about lionheart castle</p><p><cite>Vhalen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The village of Marr, Deathfist Citadel and Busheldown were all designed at the same time. They were some of the first zones to be built. I wrote a lot of lore for each of these places and did not wish to see that lore abandoned when the zones were. The 8 Virtues of Marr and the holidays Marr are bits of lore that I hope to introduce soon. That and other lore from original documents lives on and has even become part of the greater tales of the Age of Destiny.</p><p>Busheldown and Marr still contain points of interest that I find to be some of the most beautiful locations we have made. The Cathedral of Marr inside Lionheart Castle and the Temple of Sullon Zek inside Busheldown are still amazing to gaze upon.</p></blockquote>

[Iskandar]

<p><cite>Vhalen also wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What you are looking at is Lionheart Castle, part of the hidden city of Marr. The village rests beyond the bridge to the right. In an early version of the game the Knights of Truth, Priests of Marr and other benevolent residents from North Freeport migrated to this village after the Freeport Militia drove them out of Freeport.</p><p>The guardians of Lionheart Castle are an order that can be seen in North Freeport since the Age of Turmoil. These guardians are called the Sentries of Erollisi. They wear ornate silver armor with a shiny silver helm. The helm's visor is shaped in the guise of Erollisi Marr. These guards don vibrant blue capes with cowls. They are highly skilled with crossbows and always have one slung on their back. Their primary weapon is a blessed ornate war hammer of fine design. Sentries also have long hair regardless of gender. A Sentry is bound to protect the Priests of Marr and any sacred ground of the Order of Marr. These elite knights are very alluring, but pure of heart.</p><p>The village of Marr may not appear in game, but its original design document had many elements that have made it into EQ2 lore. Many of these secrets will be revealed in time. The village itself does not exist as designed, but there is a hidden fortress that represents this original design. So, this image does exist on Norrath, in lore.</p></blockquote><p>I think that was in reference to the pictures in <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=390535�" target="_blank">this thread</a> (which is also where the other quote can be found)</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p>They SO should make those originaly intended zones. But not re-use the DFC model.</p>

[Ascanius]

<p>"Lucan knew they must be on a new crusade... a secret crusade. It was within the Overrealm that some of you learned a portion of that secret crusade. You know that they are caretakers of a great artifact. They may not truly understand the origin or purpose of that artifact, but they know that the fate of Norrath is tied to it. And if some of you know about that crusade, then I can assure you that Lucan is well aware of it also. It just may be that Sir Lucan D'Lere knows more about their secret crusade than they do."</p><p>Ok now that we know the Roehn Theer end cut line  im a bit let down. If the Order of Marr was the caretaker of a great artifact <claymore>  that they know contians the fate of norrath you would think once they losted it they would launch a massive attack on Roehn Theer to try to recover it or die fighting as it is the ways of Valor, Or atleast have them have something to do with that quest line or lore. Telling you ever since Vhalen stepped down lore been in the crapper and I never get any answers to my questions from any devs that ive email or post on these forums.  MAYBE for once  a Lore dev share some information or atleast say something!!!</p>

[BleemTeam]

<p>totally...</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Mitharius@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Vhalen wrote this long ago</p><p>"Lucan knew they must be on a new crusade... a secret crusade. It was within the Overrealm that some of you learned a portion of that secret crusade. You know that they are caretakers of a great artifact. They may not truly understand the origin or purpose of that artifact, but they know that the fate of Norrath is tied to it. And if some of you know about that crusade, then I can assure you that Lucan is well aware of it also. It just may be that Sir Lucan D'Lere knows more about their secret crusade than they do."</p><p>Since the swords are useless now after they get drianed of their powers what is the Order of Marr up too now, since  their secret crusade is over now in great failure since rohen theer was able to obtain the swords of destiny for a little while.Also when will we see LIONHEART CASTLE and Busheldown like the first 2 zones ever made in this game, Ive been waiting a long time very long time. any devs please toss me a bone atleast keep me busy for another few years ;p</p></blockquote><p>Hmm.  What is the Order of Marr up to?  The last we knew (GU54 - Attack upon the Crowns!) several members of the secret order had been revealed, and the Qeynos Claymore had been hidden away by them, but that protection had not stopped the sword from being stolen.  So, the original crusade must have seen its end.  If so, do they have a new one now that the sword has been made inert?  It's a good question!</p><p>Not being with the game at launch I cannot confirm that Lionheart Castle or Busheldown were the first two zones ever made, but they certainly look like it.  First glance I can say that it's obvious they weren't ever completed.  The textures, shaders and geometry would all need work.  If they are to appear in game in any incarnation, it will take some serious work from the current art team.</p><p>Incidentally, the 8 Virtues of Marr have since been revealed.  And there are more stories to tell involving the Claymore, the Marr gods and their followers, like the Sisters of Erollisi and the Order of Marr.  Let's see where the future takes us!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Oakum]

<p>Dont we all just love being teased, lol.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>I just had major deja'vu of Vhalens old postings. Well done Kaitheel, well done <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Rezikai]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mitharius@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Vhalen wrote this long ago</p><p>"Lucan knew they must be on a new crusade... a secret crusade. It was within the Overrealm that some of you learned a portion of that secret crusade. You know that they are caretakers of a great artifact. They may not truly understand the origin or purpose of that artifact, but they know that the fate of Norrath is tied to it. And if some of you know about that crusade, then I can assure you that Lucan is well aware of it also. It just may be that Sir Lucan D'Lere knows more about their secret crusade than they do."</p><p>Since the swords are useless now after they get drianed of their powers what is the Order of Marr up too now, since  their secret crusade is over now in great failure since rohen theer was able to obtain the swords of destiny for a little while.Also when will we see LIONHEART CASTLE and Busheldown like the first 2 zones ever made in this game, Ive been waiting a long time very long time. any devs please toss me a bone atleast keep me busy for another few years ;p</p></blockquote><p>Hmm.  What is the Order of Marr up to?  The last we knew (GU54 - Attack upon the Crowns!) several members of the secret order had been revealed, and the Qeynos Claymore had been hidden away by them, but that protection had not stopped the sword from being stolen.  So, the original crusade must have seen its end.  If so, do they have a new one now that the sword has been made inert?  It's a good question!</p><p>Not being with the game at launch I cannot confirm that <span style="color: #ff99cc;"><strong><em>Lionheart Castle or Busheldown were the first two zones ever made, but they certainly look like it.  First glance I can say that it's obvious they weren't ever completed.  The textures, shaders and geometry would all need work.  If they are to appear in game in any incarnation, it will take some serious work from the current art team.</em></strong></span></p><p>Incidentally, the 8 Virtues of Marr have since been revealed.  And there are more stories to tell involving the Claymore, the Marr gods and their followers, like the Sisters of Erollisi and the Order of Marr.  Let's see where the future takes us!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>Dude, I have the faith.. that one day you and/or ttobey can do it!   -fist pump!-</p><p>Also... the <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=187450�" target="_blank">Erolisi sentries of Lionheart castle</a>... try to somehow remember what they had for weaponry.</p><p>I know Gninja would look awesome using one to. Mechanics wise, just give some bows this graphic.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><img src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/001/757/766.JPG" width="758" height="569" /></p>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Sentinels of Erollisi:</span></strong> (From Vhalen)</p><p>"The guardians of Lionheart Castle are an order that can be seen in North Freeport since the Age of Turmoil. These guardians are called the Sentries of Erollisi. They wear ornate silver armor with a shiny silver helm. The helm's visor is shaped in the guise of Erollisi Marr. These guards don vibrant blue capes with cowls. They are highly skilled with crossbows and always have one slung on their back. Their primary weapon is a blessed ornate war hammer of fine design. Sentries also have long hair regardless of gender. A Sentry is bound to protect the Priests of Marr and any sacred ground of the Order of Marr. These elite knights are very alluring, but pure of heart."</p><p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Eight Virtues of Marr:</span></strong> (From Jindrack)</p><p>"An early draft for the eight virtues of Marr has the following elements named:Love [Erollisi]Sacrifice [Mithaniel]Honor [Mithaniel]Passion [Erollisi]Charity [Erollisi]Devotion [Erollisi]Truth [Mithaniel]Might [Valor] [Mithaniel]I wouldn't consider these "official in-game lore" but more as interesting background trivia at present. If they were to appear in game I'd like to change out "Might" for "Courage" or "Valor" as I feel one of those would fit better for the eighth virtue. Just a little info to toss out there."</p>

[Kaitheel]

<p>The Eight Virtues of Marr: (as revealed in game February of 2009)</p><ul><li>Charity </li><li>Compassion </li><li>Devotion </li><li>Honor </li><li>Love </li><li>Sacrifice </li><li>Truth </li><li>Valor</li></ul><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Ascanius]

<p>woot!!! Thank you Kaitheel  you gave me some hope that the devs do listen. so who must i kiss up to to have those zones completed. The way vhalen talked about them its such a waste they are not out and just are taking up space. if I start a petition list  on this forum think that might help convince the head devs to work on them? I love the Knight of truth/ Order of marr lore ever since eq when i had my human paladin killing sharks to get the shark skin shield and me runing around in the CL trying to find the meesager .  I felt like they just dropped off the face of norrath once new expansion came out i mean dam they can't be that sneaky most of them are running around in light blue plate ;p.</p><p>Mitharius DarDanus</p><p>Lord of Valor</p><p>Leader of Knights of Valor</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Mitharius@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>if I start a petition list  on this forum think that might help convince the head devs to work on them?</p></blockquote><p>You can feedback it and encourage other people to do so, but when it comes to actual /sign-here petitions their policy is to just close them down (and rightly so in most cases -- not necessarily this case though; but kind of a 'few bad apples spoil the barrel' thing).</p>

[Lavenderboi]

<p><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mitharius@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Vhalen wrote this long ago</p><p>"Lucan knew they must be on a new crusade... a secret crusade. It was within the Overrealm that some of you learned a portion of that secret crusade. You know that they are caretakers of a great artifact. They may not truly understand the origin or purpose of that artifact, but they know that the fate of Norrath is tied to it. And if some of you know about that crusade, then I can assure you that Lucan is well aware of it also. It just may be that Sir Lucan D'Lere knows more about their secret crusade than they do."</p><p>Since the swords are useless now after they get drianed of their powers what is the Order of Marr up too now, since  their secret crusade is over now in great failure since rohen theer was able to obtain the swords of destiny for a little while.Also when will we see LIONHEART CASTLE and Busheldown like the first 2 zones ever made in this game, Ive been waiting a long time very long time. any devs please toss me a bone atleast keep me busy for another few years ;p</p></blockquote><p>Hmm.  What is the Order of Marr up to?  The last we knew (GU54 - Attack upon the Crowns!) several members of the secret order had been revealed, and the Qeynos Claymore had been hidden away by them, but that protection had not stopped the sword from being stolen.  So, the original crusade must have seen its end.  If so, do they have a new one now that the sword has been made inert?  It's a good question!</p><p>Not being with the game at launch I cannot confirm that Lionheart Castle or Busheldown were the first two zones ever made, but they certainly look like it.  First glance I can say that it's obvious they weren't ever completed.  The textures, shaders and geometry would all need work.  If they are to appear in game in any incarnation, it will take some serious work from the current art team.</p><p>Incidentally, the 8 Virtues of Marr have since been revealed.  <span style="color: #ff00ff;">And there are more stories to tell involving</span> the Claymore, <span style="color: #ff00ff;">the Marr gods and their followers, like the Sisters of Erollisi</span> and the Order of Marr.  Let's see where the future takes us!</p><p>~Kaitheel</p></blockquote><p>/cheer</p>