Olihin is this what WF is supposed to be?

[Brigh]

<p>With the way WF is now, you have implemented sanctioned, free tokens, and gold influx into the world for zero effort.</p><p>Level 10s can just sit in the tower at the 10 minute mark and get 15 tokens and ~30g for doing nothing.</p><p>New players to the server no longer have to earn tokens for pvp'ing. Instead they just need sit on their butts and wait, since most of the pvp is higher level. I assume this is due to the 30+ lockers that left T2 after GU56.</p><p>To top all of this off, after the splitting of zones with zone cap, now more gold and tokens come in within less time with the "invite me to x zone" call-outs.</p>

[macsux]

<p>Yeah, well the devs think it's "balanced" that pvping at lvl 10 rewards the same as pvp at 90. Somehow it's working as intended the fact that players basically have a full set of fabled level 90 gear waiting for them when they reach 90 even if they pvp semi casually while leveling. With the number of tokens rewarded and prices being stupidly low people can earn a fabled piece of gear in the time it takes to run 2 instances... while being level 10. Yup.. That's working as intended, but pvp disc is op apparently. They might as well add a crate of fabled gear to each new character as part of /claim. </p><p>There's absolutely no long term goals for pvp anymore. Before there were a few items that cost a lot, and you know took maybe a month to acquire each. And when you got it you actually felt like you accomplished something, especially when only limited number of players got there. There's absolutely no long term vision for anything. </p><p>It's the equivalent to turning god mode in doom - fun for maybe 10 mins, then it's just stupidly boring. </p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><cite>Snipex@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the number of tokens rewarded and prices being stupidly low <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">people</span> Qs can earn a fabled piece of gear in the time it takes to run 2 instances... while being level 10.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Maybe you are just bored with being on the Q side, raking in so many Tokens that you are prompted to come to the forums to complain that there is too much!  lol</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">With Qs winning WF more often than not, and many FP SOL on WF since the low pop lockouts prevent access to the Tokens, your statement would appear to be better applicable to a lvl10 on Q side, since they can easily get 15 Tokens just for getting in before the instance Lock, while a lvl10 FP may be lucky to receive 5.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">On FP side, some players are selling acccess to an active WF for 5-10p, and even then there is no guarantee that you'll get the 5 pity Tokens.</span></p>

[macsux]

<p>If they allow city transfers while keeping masters we would probably move the whole guild over...</p>