Melee damage vs Spell damage

[Piccolo]

<p><em>I know no one wants to get 1 shotted. But when i cast 6 spells that all should hit for over 2k each and none hit for</em></p><p><em>higher then 700, on a crit. and a scout hits me for 1400 on a ranged attack, not even a combat art? I know wizzy's needed a nerf, but i think ALL spell damaged was nerfed a lil to much. mages are supposed to do alot of damage. and die fast.</em></p><p><em>scouts get 20 procs, and they all seem to proc on the first hit. My warlock can run OOP trying to kill some people. and turn around and die in a half a second. idc if i die fast. let me be able to kill a lil bit.</em></p>

[Zacarus]

<p><cite>Roach@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><em>I know no one wants to get 1 shotted. But when i cast 6 spells that all should hit for over 2k each and none hit for</em></p><p><em>higher then 700, on a crit. and a scout hits me for 1400 on a ranged attack, not even a combat art? I know wizzy's needed a nerf, but i think ALL spell damaged was nerfed a lil to much. mages are supposed to do alot of damage. and die fast.</em></p><p><em>scouts get 20 procs, and they all seem to proc on the first hit. My warlock can run OOP trying to kill some people. and turn around and die in a half a second. idc if i die fast. let me be able to kill a lil bit.</em></p></blockquote><p>Cry moar nub.  They just added 15% spell dmg.  Wizzy's still 1 shot ice comet for huge bg dmg.  L2p scrub.</p>

[Piccolo]

<p> I know how to play. [Removed for Content] can u do when u get hit for 12k damage before your attacker even pops as your target. go get keyboard tough guy on someone else? Im not talkin about wizzy's, i said spell damage L2 READ scrub nub.</p>

[Zacarus]

<p><cite>Roach@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> I know how to play. [Removed for Content] can u do when u get hit for 12k damage before your attacker even pops as your target. go get keyboard tough guy on someone else? Im not talkin about wizzy's, i said spell damage L2 READ scrub nub.</p></blockquote><p>You run track and totems, and run with a hlr scrub.  Join feb 2005 and still not figured that out?  U must b terrible.  They nerf'd dirge op myth and 'lock plaugebringer so re roll fotm nub.  /cry</p>

[Stuckx]

<p>You should know by now that it's NOT okay for a mage to kill anyone..that's preposterous! Mage's are supposed to just fall over and die..not do DPS..if you want to succeed in PVP,roll a ranger like everyone else has.</p><p>I stopped playing my conjuror since anytime I asked for the class to be fixed,the hordes of [Removed for Content] scouts came flooding in whining about how they got oneshot by EB once. Easier to just play another class..they'll never fix spell damage because all the melee will whine about it.</p>

[Piccolo]

<p><cite>Zacarus@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Roach@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> I know how to play. [Removed for Content] can u do when u get hit for 12k damage before your attacker even pops as your target. go get keyboard tough guy on someone else? Im not talkin about wizzy's, i said spell damage L2 READ scrub nub.</p></blockquote><p>You run track and totems, and run with a hlr scrub.  Join feb 2005 and still not figured that out?  U must b terrible.  They nerf'd dirge op myth and 'lock plaugebringer so re roll fotm nub.  /cry</p></blockquote><p>[Removed for Content], Im not talking about playing my dirge. where in my post did i say my dirges spells...  I said spell damage vs combat arts. again L2READ?  go troll on your WoW forums. i posted in BG forums because I was fighting in BG.  and i rolled my dirge in 2006, oh and my warlock too.. and since you want to know everything about me, i play EVERY class in the game. i like long walks at night watching movies with my Boo and im not to fond of Cherries.</p><p>You should just continue to play your fflavor of the month. I have had mine for 4 years already. find another post to troll.</p>

[Trawe]

<p>there is a possibility that your mage just isn´t good enough compared to that scout hitting for 1,4k.</p>

[Trawe]

<p><cite>Roach@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>and since you want to know everything about me, i play EVERY class in the game.</blockquote><p>and here is the solution. you think you are very good at every class which might be true butsomeone exclusevily playing one class only spends more time and effort into one single classso it´s only natural they are far better compared to your toons because you spread yourgametime amongst ALL classes if you get where i am going...</p>

[Felleyes]

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: x-small;">It's cute how some people argue that auto attacking someone for a huge amounts of damage somehow makes them a "skilled" player, lol!</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: x-small;">Like they are somehow "better" because they can kill an equally geared finger-wiggler in 2 seconds, which is less time than it takes for a caster to get a single decent damage spell off (3 seconds or more). </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: x-small;">What the OP is pointing out is that thanks to the spell damage nerf and the recent general increase in damaged mitigation, it doesn't even freaking matter if he gets one, two or even five spells off. THEY DON'T LAND FOR (censored word) ANYWAY! </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: x-small;">How much "skill" does it take to win a fight when the other guy has no chance of winning to begin with? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Not everyone has a fusion line.</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">And anyone who's played this game for a while knows that people who play predators are usually the worst PvPers in the game. They roll predators (or crusaders) because it takes no "skill" whatsoever to be successful as a ranger, swashbuckler, brigand or assassin (or any crusader). <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva; font-size: x-small;">It just pure noobness, really, to argue that FOTM classes win because "the operator is so good." <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That's the oldest, lamest and least viable OP-hugging argument on the forums, tbh.</span></p>

[Sydares]

<p>This entire thread is hilarious. Get some mit. Get some PvP crit mit. /End.</p>

[Piccolo]

<p><cite>Trawe wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Roach@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>and since you want to know everything about me, i play EVERY class in the game.</blockquote><p>and here is the solution. you think you are very good at every class which might be true butsomeone exclusevily playing one class only spends more time and effort into one single classso it´s only natural they are far better compared to your toons because you spread yourgametime amongst ALL classes if you get where i am going...</p></blockquote><p>I am a nosy person. so when i die in a half a second i usually check out the person that killed me. My warlock has all BG armor and all T8/T9 fabled jewelery  maybe 1 legendary charm slot. My warlock is geared enough to alot of damage. Obviously im missing some Toughness, but when i check a player that killed me so fast and they have 0 BG gear. level 80 fabled and legendary gear. junk weapons.... melee classes have a massive DPS boost just from auto attack.  add in the 5-10 procs that proc on the first 2 hits.</p>

[Brynhild]

<p>Lol, every single person that has done big dps to me in pvp I have inspected and they have t9 raid gear on with t9 raid weapons and raid  jewelry, with the exception that some of them have the pvp chest piece and sometimes cloaks and 1 or 2 piece of jewelry..</p><p>The toons that do less dps to me I inspect and they have pvp gear on , lol.. go figure.</p>

[Piccolo]

<p><strong><em>I dont care if i die in 2-5 seconds. its gonna happen. but i dont want my Dark infestation to hit for 1k, when it should hit for 9k. i have no problem with it hitting for 3-5k, but 1k is rediculous. I dont understand why i can get hit with 1.5k auto attack 1 of my spells cant hit for 3k? I think the nerf went a lil to far. melee weapons in pvp( with the pvp checkbox checked) should be doin 600-900 damage... every crit is well over 1k.... and crit happens alot. so they are averaging over 1k per hit.</em></strong></p>

[Shareana]

<p>I have removed a few of the trolling posts..  let's keep in topic please <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Slaspen]

<p>Not sure what you are doing with your warlock <span >Roachonine, but you must be something wrong. I have no problem what so ever with the issues you are describing. My spells hit for a ton, scouts dont one shot me etc.... </span></p>

[Davngr1]

<p>yea i'm happy with my sorc right now he's not over powerd or underpower.    if you're having issues with a sorc it's because you're not spec right or really unlucky with opponents.</p>

[Kota]

a necro made my zerk absolutely melt yesterday. i think his name was Palae on nagafen. it wasn't a bg mind you. but yeah, i have all the pvp gear and he just clown stomped me. out healed my dps and maintained full pwr.

[monrofayy]

<p>here's a idea !! why don't they  @$@# everything else instead fix conj's were not landing spells, our pet can't do damage to any one if they only after insane amount of effort,  NOW there a retaarded bug makes are pets app 1  [Removed for Content] great !</p>