What the heck, cost changes with no warning? THANKS!!!! NOT!!!

[Gisallo]

<p>Okay so there I am got my 50 ganak tokens, swapped over to waiting forever for smugglers runs.  got my smugglers bottles.  go to the broker and see that the price for the pants i was getting CHANGED to Klak gears.  So now I have to do a boat load of Klak runs.  And the shield I was going to get, was gears and tokens, now bottles and gears.  [Removed for Content]?  Thats for making me waste my time on Ganak runs?   Yeah thats worth thanking </p>

[Wytie]

<p>Waste your time?</p><p>So the AA and coin you earned for running BG's and doing BG quest was a waste?</p><p>So you cant use those tokens for other peices of gear, some of which will be new in a few weeks?</p><p>So how exactly did you waste your time? I dont understand, it seems to me your are just upset and raging pretty hard that your easy fabled gear isnt comming as fast as you thought.....</p>

[PeterJohn]

<p>I went to the supermarket last night. I had been saving my pennies for weeks to get a loaf of bread for 99 cents. Now I am so upset because they changed the price to $1.05!!1!!!!one!!!!one!!!</p>

[Shiirr]

<p><cite>PeterJohn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I went to the supermarket last night. I had been saving my pennies for weeks to get a loaf of bread for 99 cents. Now I am so upset because they changed the price to $1.05!!1!!!!one!!!!one!!!</p></blockquote><p>I sooooo thought you were going to say they demanded nickels.</p>

[Allforgrog]

<p>I recommend NOT buying armor right now, the next LU is going to add an upgrade for only a few more. With no trade in options as of yet <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=477390" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=477390</a>.</p>

[Chiyoiche]

<p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Waste your time?</p><p>So the AA and coin you earned for running BG's and doing BG quest was a waste?</p><p>So you cant use those tokens for other peices of gear, some of which will be new in a few weeks?</p><p>So how exactly did you waste your time? I dont understand, it seems to me your are just upset and raging pretty hard that your easy fabled gear isnt comming as fast as you thought.....</p></blockquote><p>less then a few weeks now. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> next GU is expected to hit the 25th of next week! save your tokens for now...i havent checked the new prices yet, tho that are active, did they really change it?</p>

[Gisallo]

<p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Waste your time?</p><p>So the AA and coin you earned for running BG's and doing BG quest was a waste?</p><p>So you cant use those tokens for other peices of gear, some of which will be new in a few weeks?</p><p>So how exactly did you waste your time? I dont understand, it seems to me your are just upset and raging pretty hard that your easy fabled gear isnt comming as fast as you thought.....</p></blockquote><p>The point is this.  I am pretty retentive.  I do things like plan.  I do not just run stuff for the sake of running stuff.  I have a 60 hour a week job, a wife, I race in RL, so when I play this game I do things like "okay lets run the domination quest and the daily multi mark quest first" etc.  I am all about time management.  So when I do PvP zones I say "okay these are the items I want these are what they cost".</p><p>PeterJohn As for I saved 99 pennies, that is a poor analogy to say the least.  This was not, imho a price increase, what would be closer if all of the sudden you went to the Store and they said "sorry we are only taking Euros now".  A price increase or decrease I can handle a change in the actual currency used is something else. </p>

[Wytie]

<p><cite>Gisallo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Waste your time?</p><p>So the AA and coin you earned for running BG's and doing BG quest was a waste?</p><p>So you cant use those tokens for other peices of gear, some of which will be new in a few weeks?</p><p>So how exactly did you waste your time? I dont understand, it seems to me your are just upset and raging pretty hard that your easy fabled gear isnt comming as fast as you thought.....</p></blockquote><p>The point is this.  I am pretty retentive.  I do things like plan.  I do not just run stuff for the sake of running stuff.  I have a 60 hour a week job, a wife, I race in RL, so when I play this game I do things like "okay lets run the domination quest and the daily multi mark quest first" etc.  I am all about time management.  So when I do PvP zones I say "okay these are the items I want these are what they cost".</p><p>PeterJohn As for I saved 99 pennies, that is a poor analogy to say the least.  This was not, imho a price increase, what would be closer if all of the sudden you went to the Store and they said "sorry we are only taking Euros now".  A price increase or decrease I can handle a change in the actual currency used is something else. </p></blockquote><p>Well my point was, you didnt actually waste your time. That was it really. lol</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p>I call BS.  All video games and hobbies are a waste of time.  We don't eat what we kill.  It's actually doubly time negative, because time = money, and we spend money AND time.</p><p>I just realized...  actually it's WORSE.  Video games are EVIL!!!</p><p>Time = Money</p><p>Money is the root of all evil...  money = sqrt(evil)...  or money^2=evil</p><p>Video games take time and money ... or (since time = money) money x money...  or money^2</p><p>money^2  <a href="mailto:!!!@one">!!!one</a>!  that's EVIL!!!</p><p>so Video Games = Evil</p><p>call Pat Robertson, stat!</p>

[Oakum]

<p><cite>Shiirr@Blackburrow wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>PeterJohn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I went to the supermarket last night. I had been saving my pennies for weeks to get a loaf of bread for 99 cents. Now I am so upset because they changed the price to $1.05!!1!!!!one!!!!one!!!</p></blockquote><p>I sooooo thought you were going to say they demanded nickels.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, there is some sort of US Law that says you can only pay like 20 cents in nickels and pennies, lol. I remember seeing  a story where a man paid his back alimony with a dump truck full of pennies on the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">greedy</span> womans lawn and the family court judge was not happy.</p>

[feldon30]

<p><cite>PeterJohn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I went to the supermarket last night. I had been saving my pennies for weeks to get a loaf of bread for 99 cents. Now I am so upset because they changed the price to $1.05!!1!!!!one!!!!one!!!</p></blockquote><p>Your story would be funny if the 3 types of Battlegrounds tokens were interchangeable or exchangeable. They're not.</p><p>This is like going to the store and being told they only accept a certain type of currency and you get paid in a different type of currency.</p><p>This wasn't a price increase. It was a currency change.</p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This wasn't a price increase. It was a currency change.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">What might help is if a merchant was added to help make a new plat sink while converting/selling Tokens...</span></p><p><img src="http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/Bitter_Coffee/screenies/platsinktokens.jpg" /></p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Olihin]

<p><cite>Gisallo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Okay so there I am got my 50 ganak tokens, swapped over to waiting forever for smugglers runs.  got my smugglers bottles.  go to the broker and see that the price for the pants i was getting CHANGED to Klak gears.  So now I have to do a boat load of Klak runs.  And the shield I was going to get, was gears and tokens, now bottles and gears.  [Removed for Content]?  Thats for making me waste my time on Ganak runs?   Yeah thats worth thanking </p></blockquote><p>I have not changed any prices for the items on Live, you can still buy it for the same tokens until GU56. </p><p>I did change one earring from Rum Bottles to Gears, but it is on TEST for you to know ahead of time and I will make sure it is called out in the update notes.</p><p>The other price changes were done to new accessories that are not on Live at this time, so I am not sure which pants got changed that you mentioned.</p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #3366ff;">Olihin</span></p>

[Grumble69]

<p>OP--you shouldn't be purchasing armor anyway.  With the next update there's a new set of armor that costs *slightly* more than what's on the broker now.  The stats are a hair better.  But more importantly, they have a blue adornment slot.  ...and unless they've changed things on Test recently, there's no trade-in for the gear you've already purchased.</p>

[PeterJohn]

<p><cite>JoarAddam wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I call BS.  All video games and hobbies are a waste of time.  We don't eat what we kill.  It's actually doubly time negative, because time = money, and we spend money AND time.</p><p>I just realized...  actually it's WORSE.  Video games are EVIL!!!</p><p>Time = Money</p><p>Money is the root of all evil...  money = sqrt(evil)...  or money^2=evil</p><p>Video games take time and money ... or (since time = money) money x money...  or money^2</p><p>money^2  <a href="mailto:!!!@one">!!!one</a>!  that's EVIL!!!</p><p>so Video Games = Evil</p></blockquote><p>This is hilarious!</p><p>As for those fools who said my analogy was poor, I was actually just making fun of the whining. Please let me know at what point I said that the supermarket experience was an analogy. I'll hold my breath while you look for the quote.</p>

[Murchik]

<p><cite>Gisallo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Waste your time?</p><p>So the AA and coin you earned for running BG's and doing BG quest was a waste?</p><p>So you cant use those tokens for other peices of gear, some of which will be new in a few weeks?</p><p>So how exactly did you waste your time? I dont understand, it seems to me your are just upset and raging pretty hard that your easy fabled gear isnt comming as fast as you thought.....</p></blockquote><p>The point is this.  I am pretty retentive.  I do things like plan.  I do not just run stuff for the sake of running stuff.  I have a 60 hour a week job, a wife, I race in RL, so when I play this game I do things like "okay lets run the domination quest and the daily multi mark quest first" etc.  I am all about time management.  So when I do PvP zones I say "okay these are the items I want these are what they cost".</p><p>PeterJohn As for I saved 99 pennies, that is a poor analogy to say the least.  This was not, imho a price increase, what would be closer if all of the sudden you went to the Store and they said "sorry we are only taking Euros now".  A price increase or decrease I can handle a change in the actual currency used is something else.</p></blockquote><p>I always wanted to be able to manage my time. Can you share how your time management goes when you keep getting into bad set ups and get only one token instead of three? Do you plan on all loosing matches and you are ahead of time if you get some winning? Or do you write off loosing matches to wasted time?</p>

[Edavi]

<p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Waste your time?</p><p>So the AA and coin you earned for running BG's and doing BG quest was a waste?</p><p>So you cant use those tokens for other peices of gear, some of which will be new in a few weeks?</p><p>So how exactly did you waste your time? I dont understand, it seems to me your are just upset and raging pretty hard that your easy fabled gear isnt comming as fast as you thought.....</p></blockquote><p>I think the point he is making is.. BGs are not fun.  They were fun to do 2 or 3, but... doing the same 3 BGs OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again is insanely boring.  There is only 3 of them, and they will never be as fun as open world PVP used to be.  All they are there for is to get gear.</p><p>Why they decided to only make 3? I dont know.  I dont understand a lot of stupid crap they do.</p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><cite>Edavi wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There is only 3 of them</p><p>Why they decided to only make 3?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Since BeeGees are in something SOE described as "pre-season", it makes sense for them to limit some environmental variables so that attention can be focused on identifying other weaknesses or areas for improvement.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Likely they will have new maps after they address those other issues in order to improve the experience and add variety.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Everything else in the game changes and evolves through time, so I naturally expect the BeeGees to follow suit.</span></p>

[kukubird]

<p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This wasn't a price increase. It was a currency change.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">What might help is if a merchant was added to help make a new plat sink while converting/selling Tokens...</span></p><p><img src="http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb310/Bitter_Coffee/screenies/platsinktokens.jpg" /></p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Wait is this photoshop?  Or did they finally get smart and put a money sink in that has been needed for over 3 years?  Is that 1p for a token?  Or just a great idea and photoshop?</p>

[Dareena]

<p>It's a Photoshop job.  He's mentioned it in other threads as a suggestion and provided an example.</p>

[kukubird]

<p>Thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Was hoping they had finally got smart... guess not yet.</p><p>They still think it is better for mega inflation that deters newer players and to keep making content easier to compensate. Problem is when you make the content so easy it is just in the way.</p><p>Yeah the amount should be like 5p for a token anways <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  What a great Idea and would take all of an hour to code and knock out one of the BIGGEST FLAWS EQ2 HAS?  Inflation is horrible and a game killer.</p>

[Notsovilepriest]

<p><cite>kukubird wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thanks <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Was hoping they had finally got smart... guess not yet.</p><p>They still think it is better for mega inflation that deters newer players and to keep making content easier to compensate. Problem is when you make the content so easy it is just in the way.</p><p>Yeah the amount should be like 5p for a token anways <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  What a great Idea and would take all of an hour to code and knock out one of the BIGGEST FLAWS EQ2 HAS?  Inflation is horrible and a game killer.</p></blockquote><p>An unattune merchant would do far more honestly</p>

[QuestingCrafter]

<p><cite>Oakum wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Actually, there is some sort of US Law that says you can only pay like 20 cents in nickels and pennies, lol. I remember seeing  a story where a man paid his back alimony with a dump truck full of pennies on the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">greedy</span> womans lawn and the family court judge was not happy.</blockquote><p>Nope.<a href="http://www.snopes.com/business/money/pennies.asp">http://www.snopes.com/business/money/pennies.asp</a></p><p>Well, not unless you have a time machine going back pre-1965.  ;></p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><cite>kukubird wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Or just a great idea and photoshop?</blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">If you look closely at it, you can tell by some of the pixels and from seeing other shops in your time that it is shooped...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The part where it says "Gnomes Rule!" is absolute truth, but the rest is just for fun.</span></p>