how much ram does everquest 2 process?

[ZaaBuu]

<p>Hi..</p><p>I bought a new computer i5 750 (8 gigs of ram) Ati radeon 5870 (1Gig) HD. And I was having compatible issues with Windows 7 like crashing, random restarting.</p><p>So the computer guy put my rig on windows XP toned down 2.9 Ram.</p><p>I was wondering how much ram does everquest 2 cause like I dont see a difference, or if there is any its like a 3-4 percent drop in what my 8 gigs of ram do</p><p>I heard somewhere that everquest 2 uses up to 3 Gigs or ram, or less... I dont know</p><p>my hearts beating my hearts beating, my hands are shaking my hands are shaking, but i'm still shooting its like Boom headshot! Boom headshot BOOM HEADSHOT!!! XD</p>

[MoiraesFate]

<p>There's a few things you should know about this program.</p><p>When it was first created, it was for extremely advanced machines. Most machines couldn't play it on more than a balanced setting.</p><p>Well, the technology has progressed since then but not in the way the devs expected it to. Back then, it was thought that it would continue to be on single core processors and that the processors would simply speed up. Since that time we've obviously had duo and quad (and now the 6 core amd) appear. They only recently added duo core compatibility.</p><p>As well, when the game was first created, we had 4 gigs of RAM at the top end. So even on the large end, it should never use more than that.</p><p>But there's a problem. This game has a massive humongous memory leak, always has, and the devs can't seem to find the cause so I get the feeling they aren't even trying anymore.</p><p>What does this mean? Well, my beautiful 8 gig, amd 940 with geforce 260 core 216 rig can still have issues if I've been zoning alot. And your rig, even though its a pretty beautiful advanced rig will also have issues.</p><p>You can have the most advanced rig in the world, but you will STILL have issues after a while because of the memory leak.</p><p>Here's a suggestion... go online and google "clear ram" for the windows system you're using. Use it fairly often during the game. It should clear your ram when you click on the link so that you have fewer problems.</p>

[Brook]

<p>I have never seen the game use more than 2 gigs of Ram.</p><p>The game also runs better on Win7 than it ever did on XP for me. If your using 32 bit XP your still limited by how much Ram the operating system can use, thats why I think Win 7 64 bit is so much better.</p><p>The game does not have a huge memory leak, it has a couple of small issues from time to time usually after a major update or expansion while they get the coding tweaked. I do not recommend using add-on programs such as "clear ram" because on a properly configured machine its not needed and can cause more problems than it actually takes care of.</p><p>My rig is not up to the specs your using but I can still zone around all weekend without the first hiccup of problems most of the time, just sometimes after an update I have an occasional issue.</p>

[LethalBlade]

<p><cite>ZaaBuu wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So the computer guy put my rig on windows XP toned down 2.9 Ram.</p></blockquote><p>Well, don't go to that "computer guy" again. Your rig should ABSOLUTELY be running Windows 7 64 bit with all 8 gigs of RAM. Running XP is holding your system back. If you were having crashing issues, something else was going on, as EQ2 runs excellent on Win7.</p><p>And as to the 'memory leak' issue, I have not experienced this. I have played for 12 hours straight, zoning like crazy, and have had no related performance issues. Perhaps this "memory leak" issue is more prevalent with a 32 bit OS? 64bit OSes are more efficient with memory allocation.</p>

[Rhak]

<p><cite>MoiraesFate wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Here's a suggestion... go online and google "clear ram" for the windows system you're using. Use it fairly often during the game. It should clear your ram when you click on the link so that you have fewer problems.</p></blockquote><p>No no no no no. Those types of programs have been utterly useless since the Windows 98 era. XP and above (especially Vista and Win7) have their own automatic services that they use to keep your RAM how it should be. You do NOT want to use an external program to do so anymore.</p><p>And yes, as said before - your 'computer guy' is a fool. You want to be running Win7 with that kind of configuration. It's not Win7 that's causing the problems. Something else is. And that needs to be fixed. Not the OS.</p>

[TemberWolf]

<p>The eq2 client is a 32bit program meaning the max ram the program can allocate is 2 GB. Now with you being on a 32 bit machine the os can only see around 3.5 gb and (unless i'm worng) only allows the 32bit programs to use 1.5 gb. On a 64 bit machine the program can use the whole 2 gb.</p><p>That being said, this game needs more than 2 gbs in some of the newer zones with higher settings. I've watched this in task manager. When ever the game gets around 2 gb it starts getting choppy as it starts paging the memory out to the hard drive. This game runs better on 64 os because for that reason. Windows xp x64 runs better than xp 32 and win7 x64 runs better than xp x64; plus win7 x64 has alot better support than xp x64.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p>While the numbers vary slightly, it is true that EQ2 is a x86 application and will not address memory beyond the standard x86 limit.  That said, running a 64 bit OS and the latest version of windows is still recommended since it will increase overall performance.  It just wont increase the maximum amount of RAM that can be allocated to the game.</p>

[ZaaBuu]

<p>I agree with you guys, it has to be my computer guy. I wan't the complete set up, thats why I got windows 7 instead of XP in the first place, but what should I tell my computer guy. Hes willing to do a refund but he lacks skills in making a computer that works...</p><p>I wan't windows 7, i5 750, 8 gigs of ram and a ATI radeon 5870 card. It ran EQ2 well and other games like Crysis, and I wan't my computer like that so I can play up coming games like Crysis 2 and SW:TOR MMO, I think there has to be some download issue or driver problem I dont know, but what should I tell my computer guy, should I be like I want this back. Can you fix it? Or what can you test to make sure my computer runs without a hitch</p><p>Okay, before I switched back to 2.9 Ram and XP SP2 or whatever, it was freezing and restarting... But on Windows XP and 2.9 ram it still restarts itself but freezes rarley...</p><p>I want a computer that works, I dont want this BS.... FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT!!!!</p>

[jseleniu]

<p>Hi.</p><p>I did write a solution for this problem last year. You should take a look at this thread:</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=460045">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=460045</a></p><p>I know this solution is for Vista, but I think the solution will work for 32bit Windows 7 also.</p>

[Ainolan]

<p>Eq2 is a 32bit application however, just like any 32bit application you can Uncap the ram usage using the right tools. See <a href="http://www.jaloonz.com/2008/04/enabling-large-address-aware-for-games.html" target="_blank">http://www.jaloonz.com/2008/04/enab...-for-games.html</a> For more information, This will allow games limited on a 32 bit OS from 2 GBS to 3 GBs For a 64 bit OS will open up the 32 bit game/application from 3 gb to 4 gb (tool is useless for 64 bit apps on a 64 bit os-- so dont bother.) Tool can be downloaded here <a href="http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php" target="_blank">http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php</a> This Tool is for Advanced/ Knowledgable ppl, Computer notices may not want to attempt this.</p><p>Sony may have already hit this switch in there execuatable, I did mine long time ago, So if they already have I aplogize for giving information that may be less then useful, However this may just improve some ppl performance with systems with 3gbs+ and this doesnt seem to be commen knowledge. And this works for ANY 32bit application that may / can use more ram then orignally allowed.</p><p>Hope this helps some ppl, in some way <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Ainolan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Eq2 is a 32bit application however, just like any 32bit application you can Uncap the ram usage using the right tools. See <a href="http://www.jaloonz.com/2008/04/enabling-large-address-aware-for-games.html" target="_blank">http://www.jaloonz.com/2008/04/enab...-for-games.html</a> For more information, This will allow games limited on a 32 bit OS from 2 GBS to 3 GBs For a 64 bit OS will open up the 32 bit game/application from 3 gb to 4 gb (tool is useless for 64 bit apps on a 64 bit os-- so dont bother.) Tool can be downloaded here <a href="http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php" target="_blank">http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php</a> This Tool is for Advanced/ Knowledgable ppl, Computer notices may not want to attempt this.</p><p>Sony may have already hit this switch in there execuatable, I did mine long time ago, So if they already have I aplogize for giving information that may be less then useful, However this may just improve some ppl performance with systems with 3gbs+ and this doesnt seem to be commen knowledge. And this works for ANY 32bit application that may / can use more ram then orignally allowed.</p><p>Hope this helps some ppl, in some way <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>they coding this in a couple of years ago, not sure if the post by the tsr is still available but this "fix" was never approved since it was modifing the game executable by the player - might want to do some searching on the forum. Add to the fact the patcher will reload over the patched file each time it is run.</p><p>Link to patch message that explains the client is LAA coded</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=414136">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=414136</a></p>

[Trellium]

<p>We have been running two XP computers and two Win7 computers with EQ2 since early last year (even on the beta Win7), and the Win7 setup is fairly solid but the recent patch is locking us up once in a while. However, the OP is dated before the patch.</p><p>Random crashing of a new system is sometimes hard to resolve. Sometimes it means using the newest video driver; sometimes an older driver is more stable. It could be a motherboard or ram issue. If you know your motherboard manufacturer/model, Google if people have similar issues and some idea how to resolve it.</p><p>If you find XP is crashing less than Win7, then maybe the second bank of ram is flaky. Try Win7 with 4Gbs, see how it does. If your motherboard has several ram slots, maybe using a different one will help.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Trellium wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We have been running two XP computers and two Win7 computers with EQ2 since early last year (even on the beta Win7), and the Win7 setup is fairly solid but the recent patch is locking us up once in a while. However, the OP is dated before the patch.</p><p>Random crashing of a new system is sometimes hard to resolve. Sometimes it means using the newest video driver; sometimes an older driver is more stable. It could be a motherboard or ram issue. If you know your motherboard manufacturer/model, Google if people have similar issues and some idea how to resolve it.</p><p>If you find XP is crashing less than Win7, then maybe the second bank of ram is flaky. Try Win7 with 4Gbs, see how it does. If your motherboard has several ram slots, maybe using a different one will help.</p></blockquote><p>new build or new purchase. best bet burn it in. I use Memtest86 for about 6 hours or more then 3dbenchmark. Tends to bring out any issues in the build</p>