View Full Version : Warlocks..?
Elendhelie
05-03-2010, 04:44 PM
<p>I kinda like warlocks, but my problem with them is, they seem like an evil-ish class, definitely the origin of the word from Scottish lore was never a good thing though.</p><p>So, how do you reconcile good classes being something that even irl was considered evil? Particularly Id like to be a high elf warlock, I like the look I gave my elf, but its just sitting wrong with me being good and a warlock. heh</p><p>Maybe if we could be chaotic-good without it being just a roleplay note in the bio. <img src="/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Vaedaer
05-03-2010, 05:22 PM
<p>What makes you evil or good would be your actions =P and even then those good actions will seem evil to other people and vice versa xp</p><p>But yeah Warlock's in essence are pretty evil, they use void magics and pestilence but /shrug</p><p>It's all in the eyes of the beholder : D ... or however that say goes =P</p>
Rainmare
05-03-2010, 07:49 PM
<p>I portray my fae warlock as a mage obssessed with teh destruction of the orcs. his backstory is his spirit bud was a soldier that lived in the burning ring, adn died in the fires that the orcs tried to burn kelethin down with...and the memory was so ingrained and prevalent that it gives him nightmares about fire and choking to death on smoke.</p><p>he didn't want to be a wizard from thier use of flame primarily, he doesn't think a sword or a bow is enough...it didn't stop them form burning kelethin, did it. so he turned to the warlock's arts. his devotion to them is more or less he wants to create an orc specific magic plague to destroy them all in one fell swoop...people that look ill on his proffesion he simply accounts to them not remembering/their spirit buds not being so highly traumatized by the events of the Burning Ring.</p><p>basically he's traveling that well worn path of good intentions...with the end justifying the means.</p>
Elendhelie
05-03-2010, 09:45 PM
<p>I like that story, well thought-out.</p>
Vanisher123
05-03-2010, 10:59 PM
<p>I think warlock slips through the evil/good lines since disease and poison know no boundry, while stuff like necro magic tends to lean heavily on dark arts and evil etc. Giving someone the plague isn't nice, but hey every faction can do that! You just might be looked down on by the local preists and pallys. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>
Cusashorn
05-04-2010, 01:44 AM
<p>Try to look at it like the Erudites. When they banded together for the sake of knowledge, they stopped looking at necromancy as an evil thing. The Heretics of Paineel themselves acknowledged that they embraced evil and the dark arts back in EQlive. Now, Necromancy is just another field of scientific study. Disease is no different. You're not a warlock, you're a Pathologist who just happens to use what you study to protect yourself and those around you.</p>
Zabjade
05-04-2010, 02:03 AM
<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I have a Half-Elf Necromancer (From Gorowyn) who Explores Necromancy as a means to heal illnesses (Such as Cancer, whatever it is called on Norrath) that would be resistant to normal healing magics (after all they are mutated cells and healing magics probably causes the mutants on Luclin). </span></p>
Seidhkona
05-04-2010, 08:43 AM
<p><a href="http://roseknights.yuku.com/topic/21" target="_blank">My warlock, Hulda</a>, has an inner core of hidden anger. That anger helps empower her magics, and is why she chose to study the warlock's craft. At the same time, she's aware that unregulated anger may destroy her, so she follows Quellious.</p>
Finora
05-05-2010, 09:50 PM
<p>Mystics are a good class as well that uses noxious spells.</p><p>And really, when you get right down to it, why would buring someone to a crisp with flame or freezing them to death with a frost spell be any more "good" than doing the same with noxious effects? Dead is dead either way. Good scouts also use poison just like their evil side counterparts.</p>
Mirander_1
05-05-2010, 10:27 PM
<p>Well... yeah, it is kinda hard to justify a good-aligned warlock when you think about it. They <em>are </em>Void mages, after all. I mean, they aren't like evil priests and shadowknights, where they're actively serving the forces of darkness, but it's hard to explain why they would be considered any better than necros, or whatever.</p>
Rainmare
05-08-2010, 09:29 PM
<p>I wouldn't call a warlock a 'Void mage' really. he's only got 2 spells that realy involve the Void. the broodlings and the netherlord. most of his arsenal is poison and disease. really it sound like the void stuff was to give the class a 'dark' feel but keep them 'neutral'. just like we only got 1 spell that mentions Bertox.</p><p>they gave warlock 2 dumbfire pets, adn my guess is rather then them being disease monsters or minions of bertox or generic things like rats (which I think necros alreayd had anyway) they gave them void creatures...it keep the evilish bend to the proffession, but doesn't tie them directly into an evil diety as much as it might have if they'd gotten like a 'Grummus' from eq1 type mob and then grren postules or something as the other from Bert.</p>
Urgol
05-09-2010, 04:42 PM
Being a good warlock: it's not the means, it's the goal. Or you may say, greater good. Tapping void and poison for power, conducting forbidden rituals that demand sacrifices and striking pacts with evil gods (the +casting skill buff flavor, originally) can be justified if your goal is good enough.
Elendhelie
05-09-2010, 11:13 PM
<p>Keep it up, Im enjoying these comments! hehe</p><p>I like the early aoe that Warlocks get... is wizard comparable to warlock or are they just single target blasting, with warlock being an aoe nuker?</p>
Rainmare
05-09-2010, 11:36 PM
<p>wizards are all about single target blasting. the decimate opponents one at a time mostly with powerful fire and ice spells. they've got some Aes, Fusion is the really powerful one...but thier focus is single. Warlocks have a ton of AEs, and are all about mass infliction of damage things like they got 3 greens that I can recall off the top of my head and two blues, Rift being thier big massive damager there. I think thier big Green one is Apocalypse...or Absolution.</p>
KniteShayd
05-10-2010, 09:19 AM
<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wouldn't call a warlock a 'Void mage' really. he's only got 2 spells that realy involve the Void. the broodlings and the netherlord. most of his arsenal is poison and disease. really it sound like the void stuff was to give the class a 'dark' feel but keep them 'neutral'. just like we only got 1 spell that mentions Bertox.</p><p>they gave warlock 2 dumbfire pets, adn my guess is rather then them being disease monsters or minions of bertox or generic things like rats (which I think necros alreayd had anyway) they gave them void creatures...it keep the evilish bend to the proffession, but doesn't tie them directly into an evil diety as much as it might have if they'd gotten like a 'Grummus' from eq1 type mob and then grren postules or something as the other from Bert.</p></blockquote><p>Many of the warlock spells they got were void related before the spell name revamp; Pact of Darkness/the Void, Netherous Bind, Aspect of Darkness, Dark Nebula, Curse of Darkness, Aura of Void, Dark Distortion, Boon of the Void the list goes on. They used to summon Nil crystals too. I belive Nil had some void relation.</p><p>This link, <a href="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/news/read/102009/3293" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://everquest2.station.sony.com/...ead/102009/3293</a> , has all the old spell names. You can plainly see, other than the Bertox names, alot of them deal with the Void.</p><p>I believe that Warlocks are noxious based because there is no <em>darkness </em>type damage in game. Otherwise they'd probably do that instead of poison and disease.</p>
Eriol
05-10-2010, 01:22 PM
<p>To use a Warcraft III equivalent, you might think of Warlocks in EQ2 kind of like Demon Hunters from that game: using the forces of darkness against them. That may not be true of all Warlocks, but it always <em>could</em> be from a good-oriented perspective. That's not <em>quite</em> where I go from the perspective of my Fae warlock (it's a piece of it, but not the whole truth), but it <em>could</em> be for others.</p>
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