Testing Forum: Class Archetype blue adornments

[Dareena]

<p>FYI all.  There's an on going thread in the Test forum about the upcoming blue BG adornments.  More specifically, it's about the strength of each of the class archetype adornments.  The thread was started by a SK, then later reinforced by other SKs.  While they do have valid comments from their point of view, the SKs have already managed to get these archetype adornments altered since there aren't enough posters of other classes making their views know.</p><p>Please add your own input to the Test forum thread.  Already about half of the adornments will be going Live as trash under the current revisions.  I'd hate to see two class archetypes get completely hosed because they didn't know that an important discussion was going on in another forum.</p><p><em>EDIT:  I'm referencing the linked thread below.</em></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=477568">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=477568</a></p>

[Trawe]

<p>let them have all they want. maybe one time when the bg population is 80% crusader soe will take actions.</p>

[Valind]

<p>Its already happened. I was in a den run last night which had 18 crusaders in my team. Which gave us 20 fighters, because there was one monk and my berserker. I wish I'd taken screenshots.</p><p>Of those crusaders 14 were SKs and 4 were Pallies. Rather telling no?</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p>i just can't wait till we get 105% reaver.  That stuff is NIFTY</p>

[Trawe]

<p>well if everyone would roll a sk balancing would not be an issue anymore either!</p><p>make bg sk only for balancing purposes ^^</p>

[Brynhild]

<p>I think they should ABSOLUTELY allow class specific adornments for the blue slots on the PVP gear.</p><p>This would make the BG armor better in BG instead of raid armor.  If there are no class specific focus adornments for the BG armor, why use it in the first place? The raid armor is already better, and having those adornments puts it over the top.</p><p>Jewelry should be the same too, with potency working everywhere and not just in PVP.    Don't have to swap out jewelry, just the armor set.</p>

[Seiffil]

<p><cite>Brynhild wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I think they should ABSOLUTELY allow class specific adornments for the blue slots on the PVP gear.</p><p>This would make the BG armor better in BG instead of raid armor.  If there are no class specific focus adornments for the BG armor, why use it in the first place? The raid armor is already better, and having those adornments puts it over the top.</p><p>Jewelry should be the same too, with potency working everywhere and not just in PVP.    Don't have to swap out jewelry, just the armor set.</p></blockquote><p>Because that makes BG even more so the best path to gear people up for raiding on PVE servers.  Already in many of the easy mode fights, missing out on the 3-4% crit mit that SF legendary items have because you're wearing BG armor is meaningless.  Probably the biggest advantage raid armor has over BG armor are those class specific red adornments.  Remove that, and then the people who are raiding may be left asking why do we bother?</p><p>I think it's a dangerous path to take, allowing the class specific red adornments to be used on BG gear.</p>

[Brynhild]

<p>Well then make the class specific raid adornments not work in PVP.</p><p> Either or.</p><p>Besides, you fail to see the point that it's actually FASTER to get the raid gear than the BG gear.  You can get a full set of raid gear really fast with minimal time involvement whereas to get the BG gear you have to spend many hours a day farming tokens, albeit you can do it solo where the raid you cant, but if you have a good raid force it's super easy to farm raid gear with much less time and effort.</p>

[Crismorn]

<p><cite>Seiffil@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Brynhild wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I think they should ABSOLUTELY allow class specific adornments for the blue slots on the PVP gear.</p><p>This would make the BG armor better in BG instead of raid armor.  If there are no class specific focus adornments for the BG armor, why use it in the first place? The raid armor is already better, and having those adornments puts it over the top.</p><p>Jewelry should be the same too, with potency working everywhere and not just in PVP.    Don't have to swap out jewelry, just the armor set.</p></blockquote><p>Because that makes BG even more so the best path to gear people up for raiding on PVE servers.  Already in many of the easy mode fights, missing out on the 3-4% crit mit that SF legendary items have because you're wearing BG armor is meaningless.  Probably the biggest advantage raid armor has over BG armor are those class specific red adornments.<strong>  Remove that, and then the people who are raiding may be left asking why do we bother?</strong></p><p>I think it's a dangerous path to take, allowing the class specific red adornments to be used on BG gear.</p></blockquote><p>Because they do not like bg's and prefer to gain gear by working with others as a team?</p><p>Idk, why dont you tell us why they bother</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Seiffil@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I think it's a dangerous path to take, allowing the class specific red adornments to be used on BG gear.</p></blockquote><p>Blue adorns should be better than red adorns in pvp, period.</p><p>If that isn't unequivacally true, then SOE failed on itemization again.</p><p>Starting with the red bonuses that apply to pvp and doubling them would be a good start for itemizing blue adorns.</p>