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Undorett
04-25-2010, 08:57 PM
<p>In beta I thought we were told that the bard revamp was being pushed to GU56 due to not being intuitive enough or something to that effect.  I didn't notice it in the patch notes, was it pushed back again?</p>

Novusod
04-25-2010, 10:24 PM
<p>The bard revamp was canceled not pushed back.</p>

Undorett
04-26-2010, 01:59 AM
<p>I thought they said they were pushing it back, to which people asked if they could leave the raidwide spells in game in the mean time (which obviously didn't happen).</p>

Davngr1
04-26-2010, 02:22 AM
<p><cite>Novusod wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The bard revamp was canceled not pushed back.</p></blockquote><p>it was not canceled.</p><p>  can someone shed some light on this issue?    or are 8 chanter/bard raids here to stay?</p>

Shotneedle
04-26-2010, 05:01 AM
<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Novusod wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The bard revamp was canceled not pushed back.</p></blockquote><p>it was not canceled.</p><p>  can someone shed some light on this issue?    or are 8 chanter/bard raids here to stay?</p></blockquote><p>Good luck with that. Now they would have to redo Concerto, Power Twitch, and Time Warp too.</p><p>I hope it stays as is myself.</p>

Undorett
04-26-2010, 11:58 AM
<p><cite>Buffrat@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I hope it stays as is myself.</p></blockquote><p>I am not sure why, there was no downside to the bard revamp on beta other than the confusion of buffing other groups with group buffs.  It's not like bards were suddenly not needed, 4 bards would still be better than 3 for a strong raid team, but those who run pickup raids or not as solid raid teams could get away with 2-3 bards.</p>

Xill
04-26-2010, 12:04 PM
<p><cite>Undorett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Buffrat@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I hope it stays as is myself.</p></blockquote><p>I am not sure why, there was no downside to the bard revamp on beta other than the confusion of buffing other groups with group buffs.  It's not like bards were suddenly not needed, 4 bards would still be better than 3 for a strong raid team, but those who run pickup raids or not as solid raid teams could get away with 2-3 bards.</p></blockquote><p>Becuase they failed at making it work in time... and then I have not heard anything about it since... I think it was scrapped close to when the expac was supposed to launch.</p>

Davngr1
04-27-2010, 01:06 PM
<p><cite>Xill wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Undorett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Buffrat@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I hope it stays as is myself.</p></blockquote><p>I am not sure why, there was no downside to the bard revamp on beta other than the confusion of buffing other groups with group buffs.  It's not like bards were suddenly not needed, 4 bards would still be better than 3 for a strong raid team, but those who run pickup raids or not as solid raid teams could get away with 2-3 bards.</p></blockquote><p>Becuase they failed at making it work in time... and then I have not heard anything about it since... I think it was scrapped close to when the expac was supposed to launch.</p></blockquote><p>  they coulden't get the raid single target buffs to work properly (should just make them persist thru death anyhow).</p><p>  this should not stay as it is and is still a problem with raid forces chucked full of bards and chanters, even more of a problem now that chanters have lost some "fun factor" and are basicly only logged in for raids.</p>

Sydares
04-27-2010, 02:48 PM
<p>It's in the same place as the Ranger GU56 revamp. Imagination Land. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" /></p>

Artalis the Elder
04-27-2010, 03:08 PM
It would be nice if I had some idea of when this was coming and what was going to be involved or if it's been scrapped altogether.

Undorett
04-28-2010, 04:05 PM
<p>agreed</p>

Rocc
04-28-2010, 04:16 PM
<p>/agree</p>