Halas Prelude Event [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Domino

04-24-2010, 03:24 PM

The Halas prelude event is now active on Test server. On live servers, this event will be activated BEFORE GU56, before Halas is accessible. On Test server, you're going to see them both at the same time, so it may make more sense to pretend Halas isn't there yet when you do the quest.You will find NPCs in North Qeynos (at the temple), West Freeport (near the inn), Neriak (by the entrance), Kelethin (near Bayden Cauldthorn), and Gorowyn (at the dock) have a prelude quest to offer. On live servers, this would only be available until GU56 goes live.The quest should work as normal on Test server even though Halas is actually there already also, the only thing that may be confusing is that the quest refers to "a dead tree" in the Commonlands, which Test server residents will now see as a live, blooming tree. Please pretend that until GU56 this tree is still dead, and the quest text will make more sense. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />Please use this thread for any comments or bugs relating to the prelude quest, "A Vision of Valor".Update: known bugs that are being fixed:<ul><li>you should no longer be able to water the soil before you plant the seeds</li><li>the zone-out from the Vision of Valor instance is now easier to see (it's currently working, but you have to click low)</li><li>the Tribute to the Huntress quest should not be being offered yet (it's not intended to be there till Halas goes live, so it wasn't supposed to be active yet on Test while the prelude is being tested)</li><li>several people reported in /feedback having problems finding the prelude questgiver in West Freeport, he should be standing right outside the Blood Haze Inn arguing with Freeport Militia and some dark elves</li></ul>

Kamimura

04-24-2010, 04:01 PM

Alright, I seem to have hit a snag here.I got to the step with the water and seeds. First, I was trying to do something with the seeds, but only brought up an inspect box for the item. Looked for something to click there, and nothing. Looked at the water, and it said to water the seeds... bit odd, but I did.It sent me to the instance. Mith Marr is here wandering around, although clicking on him doesn't bring up a name, just empty target boxes. When I hail him, he turns and looks at me, but no text comes up. When I look back at my journal text from here, it still says to plant the pomegranate seeds.Edit: I went back out to try again. I do see the patch of dirt now for the seeds, planted and watered and updated that step. Got zoned in, Marr still doesn't have a name in the target box/ above him, but he did talk and update my quest this time.Also, would be nice to see one of those blooms added as a quest reward. They're very pretty. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Aurel

04-24-2010, 04:21 PM

YAY BOOK! *happy* That makes 2 books with this update so far... A couple typographical errors in it, but sent those in via /typo *nodnod*

Cyliena

04-24-2010, 09:06 PM

I finished the quest, having started it from the npc in North Qeynos. I went and found the priest in Kelethin, just so I'd know where they were, and they offered me a new quest called Tribute to the Huntress.I declined, and returned to the North Qeynos quest starter to see if he offered me the same quest, but he has no quest for me.edit: I just went back to Kelethin and now I see that the priest of Marr that offered me the quest is apparently a different one. The one that offered Tribute to the Huntress is in Jysolin's pub, whereas the one for A Vision of Valor is by RK Irontoe. Silly guards, directions are for kids!edit: I can't find an npc that offers Tribute to the Huntress in Qeynos, so is the extra priest npc in Kelethin a mistake?

Looker1010

04-25-2010, 12:27 AM

<cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite><blockquote>YAY BOOK! *happy* That makes 2 books with this update so far... A couple typographical errors in it, but sent those in via /typo *nodnod*</blockquote>Interesting how differently we look at things. I completed this quest last night and was extremely disappointed by the reward. After over 5 years in this game I'm drowning in books...

Ashlian

04-25-2010, 02:07 PM

<cite>Looker1010 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite><blockquote>YAY BOOK! *happy* That makes 2 books with this update so far... A couple typographical errors in it, but sent those in via /typo *nodnod*</blockquote>Interesting how differently we look at things. I completed this quest last night and was extremely disappointed by the reward. After over 5 years in this game I'm drowning in books...</blockquote>I don't mind book rewards when they're actually interesting visually. If they're that same ugly grey graphic that's plagued us since launch, I stuff them away in one of the hidden rooms and hope one day they'll update all the grey books to something that looks decent. Down with grey books in 2010! By the way......grey book rewards? Or do they aspire to even approach the cool factor of the playermade tomes? Sigh.

Bhagpuss

04-25-2010, 02:59 PM

Aurel

04-25-2010, 03:31 PM

<cite>Ashlian@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>I don't mind book rewards when they're actually interesting visually. If they're that same ugly grey graphic that's plagued us since launch, I stuff them away in one of the hidden rooms and hope one day they'll update all the grey books to something that looks decent. Down with grey books in 2010! By the way......grey book rewards? Or do they aspire to even approach the cool factor of the playermade tomes? Sigh.</blockquote>I'd take a grey book anyday over the book stacks. I hope to never get a stack of books ever again! *shiver*For the record, the Prelude book reward is a new graphic, one of the books you see used in scenary in SF zones, in fact! However, it's really odd. The binding is crooked. It's like [ on top and... < on the bottom. It's so wonky! It's gonna look really funky on a bookshelf. *boggle*

Domino

04-26-2010, 03:42 PM

<cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>I finished the quest, having started it from the npc in North Qeynos. I went and found the priest in Kelethin, just so I'd know where they were, and they offered me a new quest called Tribute to the Huntress.</blockquote>This quest isn't supposed to be on offer yet (not till the prelude ends) so I'll get that removed!Updated my original post with a few of the bugs that I've fixed this morning, which should be on their way to Test in a few days. Thanks! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Aurel

04-26-2010, 06:45 PM

*snicker* Does Mithaniel Marr still summon a giant orange djinn to teleport away with, or did that get fixered?Interestingly, I remembered this last night... That random djinn effect is also used on the Idol of the Soaring. Which comes from Mara. Which... has no djinn. I don't know how particle effects are assigned, but it seems like that one is used randomly when it doesn't seem to be an appropriate fit at all. *lol*

Whilhelmina

04-26-2010, 07:21 PM

Either I have some vision problems or the prelude is not active on Test_copy (I did it on Test)

Domino

04-26-2010, 08:16 PM

<cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite><blockquote>Either I have some vision problems or the prelude is not active on Test_copy (I did it on Test)</blockquote>It wasn't activated on test copy since the server was down over the weekend.As for the djinn ... well ... I haven't had a chance to look at this one yet, but let's just say the gods work in mysterious ways? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Djinn form is as good as any other form for getting around, I suppose! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Zabjade

04-26-2010, 11:53 PM

Could not zone out after talking to Marr.

Catria

04-27-2010, 03:19 PM

Ran through this just now with no major issues. I agree that the djinn effect is a bit odd. LOL!It took me a bit to figure out how to get out of the Vision instance because (at least for me) the point you need to click on to exit is not centered in the portal, it's actually below the portal.Other than that, it looks good.

Domino

04-29-2010, 08:47 PM

Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.I will be disabling the prelude quest on Test next Tuesday (May 4th) so that we can test the Halas launch events! So, if you have any further Test server alts who want to do the prelude quest, I'd advise you to run them through it over the coming weekend. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Aurel

04-29-2010, 08:56 PM

Yay!Now just to get that Idol of Soaring fixed... unless a djinn is supposed to pop out of an item related to Mara... *shifty eyes*Honestly -- I don't think I've seen that particle effect used anywhere appropriate *LOL*Thanks Domino!

Alenna

04-29-2010, 09:16 PM

Leko

04-29-2010, 09:21 PM

shadowscale

04-29-2010, 09:36 PM

Leko

04-29-2010, 09:55 PM

<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.</blockquote>Since the PvP servers do not have guides. What is the plan for the PvP servers to get this quest? Will you be posting a schedule of when the SOE staff will be on the PvP servers so they can hand out the quest?Or will we be getting a NPC to hand out the quest?</blockquote>i think it will be given by NPCs on all servers after a certain date.</blockquote>Why should the PvP server be forced to get the events late?

Catria

04-30-2010, 01:19 AM

<cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.</blockquote>Since the PvP servers do not have guides. What is the plan for the PvP servers to get this quest? Will you be posting a schedule of when the SOE staff will be on the PvP servers so they can hand out the quest?Or will we be getting a NPC to hand out the quest?</blockquote>i think it will be given by NPCs on all servers after a certain date.</blockquote>Why should the PvP server be forced to get the events late?</blockquote>Exchange servers don't get GM-given quests either. We always have to wait and hope an NPC is put in that will offer the quest.

Cyliena

04-30-2010, 03:19 PM

Just went to check out the evil side of it, and submitted a typo report for the quest starter. The "harrassed barbarian" should be a "harassed barbarian" (one R, not two).Thanks so much for adding the Valorian Bloom to the rewards!

Catria

04-30-2010, 04:02 PM

Wanted to add that given that this is a prelude event for a major GU, I really think it should be available on all servers at the same time rather than handed out to players by GMs on servers that have them. It seems very unfair for a good portion of us to miss out on it or have to wait until it really isn't a prelude.*edited for grammar*

Domino

05-01-2010, 12:28 AM

<cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.</blockquote>Since the PvP servers do not have guides. What is the plan for the PvP servers to get this quest? Will you be posting a schedule of when the SOE staff will be on the PvP servers so they can hand out the quest?Or will we be getting a NPC to hand out the quest?</blockquote>Although there are no guides on PvP and exchange servers, the CS and community staff are able to give out the quest on these servers. So keep your eyes open, you never know who might be around!The last week before GU56 launch, NPCs will be added to give out the quest on all live servers, since it's not possible for guides, CS, and community to catch every last person who may want the quest. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Catria

05-01-2010, 01:06 AM

Kamimura

05-01-2010, 01:14 AM

<cite>Nevissa@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, would be nice to see one of those blooms added as a quest reward. They're very pretty. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Oooh, took another of my test alts through the quest today, love the new reward! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kabahl

05-01-2010, 01:53 AM

Is this quest still on the Test Copy server (as of 4/30/10). I've been all over west freeport near the Blood Haze Inn and didn't see an NPC that gave this quest. Any help?

Leko

05-01-2010, 10:06 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.</blockquote>Since the PvP servers do not have guides. What is the plan for the PvP servers to get this quest? Will you be posting a schedule of when the SOE staff will be on the PvP servers so they can hand out the quest?Or will we be getting a NPC to hand out the quest?</blockquote>Although there are no guides on PvP and exchange servers, the CS and community staff are able to give out the quest on these servers. So keep your eyes open, you never know who might be around!The last week before GU56 launch, NPCs will be added to give out the quest on all live servers, since it's not possible for guides, CS, and community to catch every last person who may want the quest. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>This is not an effective solution to the issue. The Blue Non-Exchange servers have both Guides and the CS staff handing out the quest. In essence the Blue Non-Exchange servers have a 100% greater chance to receive the quest when compared to a PvP or Exchange server. Guides on servers have considerably more time to log on to their server and interact with players and hand out a quest then the CS staff does. The CS staff has all of their normal job duties, meetings to attend, ETC. So the chance that a CS staff member will be on a PvP or Exchange server is not very high. In addition to that you also have to add in the fact that most players will be on after the normal office hours for the CS staff and the CS staff will have to split their time between 3 servers. All of that adds up to not a very great chance of getting the quest unless we wait for the NPC to go live one week before the GU. The other issue for the PvP servers is where will the CS staff hand out the quest? In the cities? If so, not a great solution as then we have even less of a chance to get the quest. Example, CS staff logs in on the evil side and hands out the quest for an hour then logs over to the good side for an hour. Great the PvP server had two hours of chance to get the quest but the since good players can not go into evil cities safely and vice versa how effective was that time? A simple solution will be to post a schedule as to when the quest will be handed out on the PvP and Exchange servers or to give those servers the NPC early. I feel that having the prelude quest handed out by Guides and CS staff is a fun and unique way for a event to happen but ask that you consider all facets of the game.

Bhagpuss

05-01-2010, 04:33 PM

The quest dialog talks about "the dead tree" outside "the old Keep of Marrsfist". There are two problems with this:1. The tree is patently not dead. Maybe it was dead before Marr visited, but by the time we get to see it it is not just in leaf but in bloom. A livelier tree would be hard to find anywhere in the Commonlands.2. The in-game map doesn't have any "Keep of Marrsfist". What it has is "Befallen". When you get there, yellow writing appears on your screen saying "Ruins of Befallen". The directions in the quest journal are fine, but maybe it would be better to throw "Befallen" into the description somewhere too.What with this, and the little pile of earth in the world-view to click on to plant the seeds then the little bottle in inventory to right click to water them, which doesn't then offer a "Use" option but does bring up an option after you "examine" it, this quest has the potential to be pretty confusing, although I'm sure most players will muddle through it like I did.Once in Marr's Vision the very first thing I saw, right in the middle of the screen, was a button to click on and exit. I turned 360 degrees and it was in front of me the whole way round. I figured there had to be something more in there than that so I stuck at it and eventually spotted a red book hanging over somethign way off in the mist, which turned out to be Marr himself. It might have been better if he was more prominent than the exit sign.Overall, though, jolly good fun and a nice reward.

Katz

05-01-2010, 06:02 PM

<cite>Bhagpuss wrote:</cite><blockquote>The quest dialog talks about "the dead tree" outside "the old Keep of Marrsfist". There are two problems with this:1. The tree is patently not dead. Maybe it was dead before Marr visited, but by the time we get to see it it is not just in leaf but in bloom. A livelier tree would be hard to find anywhere in the Commonlands.......snip</blockquote>Odd...the tree was dead when I did the quest.

Daryx

05-01-2010, 06:15 PM

Katz

05-01-2010, 06:18 PM

I would agree with this. One week is too short a time. Put the quest NPC givers out and give the server announcements to let people know about it.

Kamimura

05-01-2010, 06:23 PM

<cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bhagpuss wrote:</cite><blockquote>The quest dialog talks about "the dead tree" outside "the old Keep of Marrsfist". There are two problems with this:1. The tree is patently not dead. Maybe it was dead before Marr visited, but by the time we get to see it it is not just in leaf but in bloom. A livelier tree would be hard to find anywhere in the Commonlands.</blockquote>Odd...the tree was dead when I did the quest.</blockquote>That's because it is actually a test only bug, and mentioned in the first post actually...

Bratface

05-02-2010, 01:19 AM

<cite>Daryx@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.</blockquote>Since the PvP servers do not have guides. What is the plan for the PvP servers to get this quest? Will you be posting a schedule of when the SOE staff will be on the PvP servers so they can hand out the quest?Or will we be getting a NPC to hand out the quest?</blockquote>Although there are no guides on PvP and exchange servers, the CS and community staff are able to give out the quest on these servers. So keep your eyes open, you never know who might be around!The last week before GU56 launch, NPCs will be added to give out the quest on all live servers, since it's not possible for guides, CS, and community to catch every last person who may want the quest. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Why don't you just put the NPCs out on all servers now if the quest is ready? Every other "prelude" event I can think of was full-blown for several weeks and the quests available from NPCs. Even for Neriak's (I can't recall if there were quests involved) launching--which seems comparable since it was a new zone added outside of an expansion--the excavating and chain gang in Commonlands were active for several weeks. That way "every last person who may want the quest" has a better chance of doing it rather than hoping a guide or CS/community might be on when you are and you might happen to see them, let alone the problem it poses for PVP and exchange servers. This isn't a recurring guide event or a holiday that will come back next year after all.</blockquote>I have to agree with this, we got very lucky and caught a mischannel that mentioned a prelude to halas... That's ALL that was said...Being that I had done it on test I figured out what it was pretty quick and ran a set of toon over to the Nek dock where the guide was. We only had time to do it once before the guide was gone. I don't think more than a dozen or so players got the quest today because we only saw a few doing the same thing we were doing while the guide was still around.I'd MUCH rather be able to just do it and not have to watch for the mention of a guide in order to hurry up and hope to get the quest before the guide is gone again. Heck I still have a turn in to do with a guide for a quest that was given to me MONTHS ago and the guide left before we could do the final turn in with him.I love the guides and all but something like this should be put on the servers well in advance (like the other events leading up to new zones/exp) so that people can get it done without having to feel rushed, It'd be nice to be able to take our time and enjoy the lore without worrying that we have to get it done quick so we can get alts through it before a guide leaves.

Aurel

05-02-2010, 01:48 AM

*cough*The prelude quest is actually not very long, or time-consuming... I have a feeling it'll be okay *nodnod* If it's still up on Test, I'd recommend hopping over and seeing for yourself (:

Bratface

05-02-2010, 03:28 AM

<cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite><blockquote>*cough*The prelude quest is actually not very long, or time-consuming... I have a feeling it'll be okay *nodnod* If it's still up on Test, I'd recommend hopping over and seeing for yourself (:</blockquote>The point is you can't get it without finding a guide, period. Which takes incredible luck since they don't announce their presence.Dosn't matter how quick you can get it done if you can't get started.

Aurel

05-02-2010, 10:55 AM

For the time being, that is true... but a week before Halas goes live, it'll be sitting around 24/7 (except for downtimes, of course) as an NPC-given quest... *nodnod*[EDIT: My previous post had been in relation to the NPC-given quest, meaning to say that for the week it's here, there is plenty of time, since it's short, sweet, and gives an awesome book... oh and some flower thing... but it gives a BOOK!]

Bratface

05-02-2010, 11:53 AM

Some us may not even be able to play during that one specific week, things DO happen at times and a week is a narrow timeframe to squeeze what is usually a weeks long event into.Things happen leaving me, with my generous playtime, wondering if I will be able to finish, let alone enjoy, this prelude event without having to rush, or worse miss it.But whatever /shrugwtb spellcheck!!!

Aurel

05-02-2010, 12:01 PM

Really, I do recommend checking it out on test... (: I'd be surprised if, even with reading dialogue intently, it took you more than 20 mins. I think the first time it took me 10, taking careful care with dialogue... [EDIT: That, and my toon had 0% run speed, and I was trying to figure out where to go for the *coughmmrgh*...]

Leko

05-02-2010, 03:33 PM

<cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Really, I do recommend checking it out on test... (: I'd be surprised if, even with reading dialogue intently, it took you more than 20 mins. I think the first time it took me 10, taking careful care with dialogue... [EDIT: That, and my toon had 0% run speed, and I was trying to figure out where to go for the *coughmmrgh*...]</blockquote>I understand that it is a fast and easy quest. That is not what is in question here. The content should be made be available to all players at rhe same time regardless of the server or play style the player has selected.

Katz

05-02-2010, 04:50 PM

<cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Really, I do recommend checking it out on test... (: I'd be surprised if, even with reading dialogue intently, it took you more than 20 mins. I think the first time it took me 10, taking careful care with dialogue... [EDIT: That, and my toon had 0% run speed, and I was trying to figure out where to go for the *coughmmrgh*...]</blockquote>No matter how short the quest is to do you have to have the following:1) the quest2) be able to play when the quest is available so that you can fulfil requirement 1.The quest could be 10 seconds long but if you don't have 1) and 2), you won't be able to complete it.

Aurel

05-02-2010, 06:10 PM

Okay -- well then, I apologize to people that both are unable to get the quest from the GM, and then are unable to log in during the week it will be static, 'cause... then, yes, you'll miss it. ): Hopefully, if you miss the GMs, you'll find a few minutes to log in and run the quest, though, when it is available all the time for seven days.

Mystfit

05-02-2010, 07:38 PM

People were kinda disappointed that the ANniversarry event lasted such a short time and there was no warning whatsoever. Now, I found the surpirse element kinda fun....broadcast announcement..hmm..what's up with that, toddle over.In this case, even if you don't like the short time frame, you have waring, you know it's coming and can surely, somehow, take a bit of time out of whatever hectic schedule you have to run to the NPC once it's up. I imagine there will still be issues as I've nto seen a situation where 100% of the population was happy with anything Sony did. But, the informed toons will know and hopefully have a shot at this pretty flower..and oh yah, I think there was a smelly old book, too.PS. If you know now you can't log in that week, send me a tell with your server and I'll roll a toon and figure out how to get the quest done for ya with some uber level 1 sneaking skills <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Could be fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Daryx

05-02-2010, 10:09 PM

What it comes down to is whether "they" really want to give everyone the opportunity to do the prelude quest. It's not about how long it takes to do it or whether you personally know you can log on that week. Since Domino admitted the GMs, guides, etc. couldn't possibly cover everyone who wants to do it--which is only common sense--there's no reason not to make it available with NPCs and give everyone the chance. Unless the idea is to be exclusive with it. But I'd hate to think that was the reasoning.

Kamimura

05-03-2010, 03:23 AM

<cite>Daryx@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Unless the idea is to be exclusive with it. But I'd hate to think that was the reasoning.</blockquote>I wouldn't think so, or they wouldn't put the NPCs in at all. It is a bit confusing to have both ways going at different times, though... Personally I think I'd rather see the quest there in game, with perhaps a guide just drawing attention to it. Then you could do it anytime, but still have the live element to it and drawing people to it.

Domino

05-05-2010, 08:37 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Some us may not even be able to play during that one specific week, things DO happen at times and a week is a narrow timeframe to squeeze what is usually a weeks long event into.</blockquote>Many of our live events last only 1 week, or even less. Every effort has been made to ensure that anyone who does wish to get the quest can do so, as outlined in my previous post. However, the argument that "maybe someone can't log in during that one week" can be used for any period of time you care to name ... SOMEONE somewhere will not be able to log in on a particular day/week/month/year/phase of the moon/whatever, and there's no way to avoid that 100%.Clearly you are already aware that the quest will be offered from NPCs during the week leading up to the launch of "Halas Reborn", so you can plan accordingly. There will be further announcements about the prelude quest for those not yet aware of it. Ultimately, however, Norrath (and any MMO) is a dynamic and changing world, and things do change whether or not any single person chooses to log in. That's part of what makes it such an interesting world to play in. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Leko

05-05-2010, 09:24 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Some us may not even be able to play during that one specific week, things DO happen at times and a week is a narrow timeframe to squeeze what is usually a weeks long event into.</blockquote>Many of our live events last only 1 week, or even less. Every effort has been made to ensure that anyone who does wish to get the quest can do so, as outlined in my previous post. However, the argument that "maybe someone can't log in during that one week" can be used for any period of time you care to name ... SOMEONE somewhere will not be able to log in on a particular day/week/month/year/phase of the moon/whatever, and there's no way to avoid that 100%.Clearly you are already aware that the quest will be offered from NPCs during the week leading up to the launch of "Halas Reborn", so you can plan accordingly. There will be further announcements about the prelude quest for those not yet aware of it. Ultimately, however, Norrath (and any MMO) is a dynamic and changing world, and things do change whether or not any single person chooses to log in. That's part of what makes it such an interesting world to play in. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I am disappointed that you are going to take this stance and the fact that in the planning for this event you did not consider the pvp or exchange servers. At this point adding the quest NPC a week before Halas goes live feels like an after thought. Yes the MMO landscaoe that we play in is dynamic however you should still consider all servers when you are going to produce an event like this. This decision on your end puts the PvP and Exchance servers in 2nd class citizen category.Yes there is no way to 100% ensure that 100% of the players base will be able to perform a certian event / task however you should be offering the event / task on a level playing field and not pushing a certian type of server off to the side and tell the players on those servers to just wait in the corner.This decision needs to be reconsidered.

Mystfit

05-05-2010, 11:33 PM

<cite>Leko wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite>I am disappointed that you are going to take this stance and the fact that in the planning for this event you did not consider the pvp or exchange servers. At this point adding the quest NPC a week before Halas goes live feels like an after thought. Yes the MMO landscaoe that we play in is dynamic however you should still consider all servers when you are going to produce an event like this. This decision on your end puts the PvP and Exchance servers in 2nd class citizen category.Yes there is no way to 100% ensure that 100% of the players base will be able to perform a certian event / task however you should be offering the event / task on a level playing field and not pushing a certian type of server off to the side and tell the players on those servers to just wait in the corner.This decision needs to be reconsidered.</blockquote>I am on the Bazaar. Kiara was on my server for an hour broadcasting to level chats and handing out this quest last week. SHe made sure we knew the quest was also going to be on an NPC the week before Halas, so we could tell others who may not have been there that night. I don't feel like I was told to wait in a corner or that I was second class..in fact...we were FIRST and got to show off our pretty flower to the homeshow channel that night for them to drool over.

Cyliena

05-06-2010, 05:13 PM

This seems the most fitting place to post about the Tribute to the Huntress quest since I don't see a sticky for it:1. On the Test channel I saw people mention several times that there is a title reward for completing the quest 10 times. The only reward I got on the 10th completion was "Red Roses Blooming with Love".2. I can't foresee many people having the initiative to repeat this quest so many times with the only rewards being items we can obtain in abundance from Erollisi Day, unless there does end up being a title reward.I submitted feedback asking if the roses could at least be a different color than the Erollisi Day ones, such as blue or white, so they at least feel more unique. It's a nice little followup quest to the Vision of Valor one, and at its current state, worth doing at least once. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

KerowynnKaotic

05-06-2010, 05:35 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Seems that all the issues with this quest have been addressed (even the djinn effect is gone too) and it's now starting to hit live servers, where it will initially be given out by guides and SOE staff until shortly before the update launch.I will be disabling the prelude quest on Test next Tuesday (May 4th) so that we can test the Halas launch events! So, if you have any further Test server alts who want to do the prelude quest, I'd advise you to run them through it over the coming weekend. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>*sigh* and *bangs head on keyboard* .. I missed out on this on my Test Chars, was going to log on Today and play catch up on all the stuff I missed since I haven't been logged on to really either Live or Test since the day after this update hit Test. o.O.. So ... When is the Prelude Event going live officially on Live .. or .. is it there now? I mean with npcs not 'uber wishing upon a star' Guide quests.------- And, I've heard that the secondary quests after it goes Live, the one that's currently being tested on Test, is pretty much a copy & paste of the Legend's repeatable quests. In the way that they will award a different prize after #5 & #10 ... Why? It's fine to have that kind of tedious repetition in a questline that will be there till the zone gets revamped sometime in far future but for a limited time event?! *sigh* ... I'll go on the record saying I think those kinds of quests & reward tiers suck *** for Live Events! Mind numbing repetition does not equate fun!

GrunEQ

05-06-2010, 06:22 PM

First off, the NPC for Qeynos, is in NQ inside the Inn, not at the temple.After completing this simple quest, I was deeply disappointed that it rewarded a single rose, just like on Erollisi Day. Couldn't you come up with something unique? Like a minature statue of the M. Marrs' version of Erollisi that is displayed in New Halas? And why would anyone want to do it more than once to get the same stuff you get on Erollisi Day?

Cyliena

05-06-2010, 06:31 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off, the NPC for Qeynos, is in NQ inside the Inn, not at the temple.</blockquote>Domino's OP is referring to where the quest starters are for the Vision of Valor prelude. I just hijacked this post for Tribute to the Huntress as well. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /> In general, all the quest starters for Tribute are boozing in their local bars. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Purr

05-06-2010, 08:15 PM

How long will the follow-up quest to the prelude >Tribute to the huntress< be available, pls?Purr~

Ashlian

05-06-2010, 08:29 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Some us may not even be able to play during that one specific week, things DO happen at times and a week is a narrow timeframe to squeeze what is usually a weeks long event into.</blockquote>Many of our live events last only 1 week, or even less. Every effort has been made to ensure that anyone who does wish to get the quest can do so, as outlined in my previous post. However, the argument that "maybe someone can't log in during that one week" can be used for any period of time you care to name ... SOMEONE somewhere will not be able to log in on a particular day/week/month/year/phase of the moon/whatever, and there's no way to avoid that 100%.Clearly you are already aware that the quest will be offered from NPCs during the week leading up to the launch of "Halas Reborn", so you can plan accordingly. There will be further announcements about the prelude quest for those not yet aware of it. Ultimately, however, Norrath (and any MMO) is a dynamic and changing world, and things do change whether or not any single person chooses to log in. That's part of what makes it such an interesting world to play in. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Clearly, it makes no sense to most of us that it's being offered as a Guide Event when you're planning on putting NPC's up with the quest a week before the game update. Those of us with busy schedules and multiple alts, no matter how quick this quest is, would have preferred to have more time to do it at our leisure, and clearly, the devs could have given us that time since the quest is available as a Guide/GM Event.Since nearly no one on my server ever hears about Guide events (and I do indeed keep an eye out for them) it's not exactly good advertising as a Prelude event if that's what having Guides and CS reps handing the quest out is intended to do. A serverwide announcement or login message is more effective. I enjoy Guide events, but I think they should be relegated to supplementary quests during Live events (Mistletoe/Snow Generator at Frostfell), rather than being the primary quest givers for an event. If they had some little extra quest related to the release of Halas, given out during the time the main quest was available on the NPC's, that would have been great. Just a suggestion.

GrunEQ

05-07-2010, 12:44 AM

Guess I'm a little confused, as I was looking for the OP NPCs and I didn't find any at the temple. Or is this a high level quest and that's why I couldn't find it on my low toon?

Cyliena

05-07-2010, 12:48 PM

Bratface

05-07-2010, 01:15 PM

<cite>Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>This seems the most fitting place to post about the Tribute to the Huntress quest since I don't see a sticky for it:1. On the Test channel I saw people mention several times that there is a title reward for completing the quest 10 times. The only reward I got on the 10th completion was "Red Roses Blooming with Love".2. I can't foresee many people having the initiative to repeat this quest so many times with the only rewards being items we can obtain in abundance from Erollisi Day, unless there does end up being a title reward.I submitted feedback asking if the roses could at least be a different color than the Erollisi Day ones, such as blue or white, so they at least feel more unique. It's a nice little followup quest to the Vision of Valor one, and at its current state, worth doing at least once. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Yeah I think I may have ben the one who made that mistake, I went through my logs this morning to make sure of what Domino had said and I had misremembered the numbers, sorry.(1273030132)[Tue May 04 20:28:52 2010] aPC -1 Test.Domino:Test.Domino/a tells Test.test (1), "I believe 15 repeats gives you the valorian bloom, 25 is a title, and there's nothing further"So there is it, I had the numbers wrong but you can see the amounts here, straight from a C&P of my chat log.I have to say though that doing this on test with just four of us was doable but even then we had to get respawn to finish it, it's going to be HELL when we are all doing it during one short week and having to do it repeatedly on multiple characters.And what's up with the house item of the pomegranate? You get that from harvesting but it's random? So you get three shots at getting one per quest and if you don't, oh well too bad?The roses are meh, I have boatloads of them from Erollisi tyvm, and I can craft the roses in a vase as well. The pomegranate house item I am going to be lucky to get, if at all, but I guess I should be grateful it isn't rotting =/

Cyliena

05-07-2010, 05:12 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah I think I may have ben the one who made that mistake, I went through my logs this morning to make sure of what Domino had said and I had misremembered the numbers, sorry.(1273030132)[Tue May 04 20:28:52 2010] aPC -1 Test.Domino:Test.Domino/a tells Test.test (1), "I believe 15 repeats gives you the valorian bloom, 25 is a title, and there's nothing further"So there is it, I had the numbers wrong but you can see the amounts here, straight from a C&P of my chat log.</blockquote>Ahhh that would explain it. 25 times will make me too twitchy to handle it, I think, but thanks for clarifying. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

ChrisMarchant

05-09-2010, 07:39 AM

slight problem on the live servers, the npcs appeared for 1 day, and haven't been seen since. I have my chars on the live servers constantly looking for them, but can't find them.

Bratface

05-09-2010, 12:13 PM

<cite>Ashlian@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Some us may not even be able to play during that one specific week, things DO happen at times and a week is a narrow timeframe to squeeze what is usually a weeks long event into.</blockquote>Many of our live events last only 1 week, or even less. Every effort has been made to ensure that anyone who does wish to get the quest can do so, as outlined in my previous post. However, the argument that "maybe someone can't log in during that one week" can be used for any period of time you care to name ... SOMEONE somewhere will not be able to log in on a particular day/week/month/year/phase of the moon/whatever, and there's no way to avoid that 100%.Clearly you are already aware that the quest will be offered from NPCs during the week leading up to the launch of "Halas Reborn", so you can plan accordingly. There will be further announcements about the prelude quest for those not yet aware of it. Ultimately, however, Norrath (and any MMO) is a dynamic and changing world, and things do change whether or not any single person chooses to log in. That's part of what makes it such an interesting world to play in. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Clearly, it makes no sense to most of us that it's being offered as a Guide Event when you're planning on putting NPC's up with the quest a week before the game update. Those of us with busy schedules and multiple alts, no matter how quick this quest is, would have preferred to have more time to do it at our leisure, and clearly, the devs could have given us that time since the quest is available as a Guide/GM Event.Since nearly no one on my server ever hears about Guide events (and I do indeed keep an eye out for them) it's not exactly good advertising as a Prelude event if that's what having Guides and CS reps handing the quest out is intended to do. A serverwide announcement or login message is more effective. I enjoy Guide events, but I think they should be relegated to supplementary quests during Live events (Mistletoe/Snow Generator at Frostfell), rather than being the primary quest givers for an event. If they had some little extra quest related to the release of Halas, given out during the time the main quest was available on the NPC's, that would have been great. Just a suggestion.</blockquote>Same on my server Guk, but we keep an eye out all the time now for one becuase we want to be able to do this but don't want to face the traffic jam that will happen when the enire server is trying to do the quest AND the repeatables all within ONE week.So we got lucky and found a (senior) guide... Who then proceeded to chat about trolls or some race and then gave us food and drink.. No prelude quest or anything.I think, for the benefit of those of us who are anxious to get this quest, that guides shouldn't be logging on just to "chat", they better have this prelude quest or don't waste my time.There is never an announcement, and how many people are actually IN whatever zone they decide to drop into? It's a rare thing to see a guide and really disappointing to chasing on down to get this quest only to be given milk and cookies.I am very disappointed in this situation.

Domino

05-12-2010, 01:42 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have to say though that doing this on test with just four of us was doable but even then we had to get respawn to finish it, it's going to be HELL when we are all doing it during one short week and having to do it repeatedly on multiple characters.And what's up with the house item of the pomegranate? You get that from harvesting but it's random? So you get three shots at getting one per quest and if you don't, oh well too bad?</blockquote>To clarify here, the "Tribute to the Huntress" quest is the quest that will be live for the entire duration of GU56 till 57 arrives. It's on Test right now for testing purposes, but will be available for plenty of time. The prelude quest "Vision of Valor", which is very quick to do, is the quest that will be available the week before GU56 launch.That said, which respawn exactly were you waiting on for the Tribute quest? Pomegranates, or skeletons?I will be deactivating the "Tribute to the Huntress" quest on Test server later today, as it's been tested now, and reactivating the real prelude event so the Test server folks can enjoy it for the remainder of the testing period. "Tribute to the Huntress" will be available again on Test server once GU56 is activated on live servers so that people can continue it if they wish.The fresh pomegranate house item does not require you to be on the Tribute to the Huntress quest, but is a very rare occurrence to find. It is however a permanent addition and will have a rare chance of appearing under the pomegranate tree even after the "Tribute to the Huntress" quest goes away with GU57.

Kulaf

05-12-2010, 05:12 PM

Is there any tentative/firm date on when GU56 goes live?

Eveningsong

05-12-2010, 05:14 PM

According to the posted update info at <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/gameinfo/updates" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...meinfo/updates,</a> May 25th is the expected GU date.

Cyliena

05-12-2010, 05:42 PM

My final feedback on Tribute to the Huntress.I went through and finished my final 13 (!!!) runs to get the title today before it gets yanked from Test.There was no extra reward for completion #11 through completion #19. On #20 the reward is another Erollisi Day item--which makes sense, given that it's a Tribute to her, but not worth 20 runs.The title is a nice reward, but I won't be doing that many runs once it hits Live. Even though it'll be around the full GU, that's just so time consuming and mind numbing (and this is coming from someone who LOVES live/world events) that it just isn't worth it.However, I'm sure the truly obsessive and completionists will be blowing kisses for it. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> I, however, will get my one time AA exp and move on. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />edit: That being said.. if the title was the reward for the 10th completion, I'd probably do it with a few chars. 25 is far too extreme imo.

Domino

05-14-2010, 09:40 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. The title has been moved to the 10th repetition reward, any further repetitions beyond that just award another Valorian Bloom (in case you REALLY REALLY like them). <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Bratface

05-15-2010, 04:27 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The fresh pomegranate house item does not require you to be on the Tribute to the Huntress quest, but is a very rare occurrence to find. It is however a permanent addition and will have a rare chance of appearing under the pomegranate tree even after the "Tribute to the Huntress" quest goes away with GU57.</blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?

GrunEQ

05-15-2010, 07:40 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The fresh pomegranate house item does not require you to be on the Tribute to the Huntress quest, but is a very rare occurrence to find. It is however a permanent addition and will have a rare chance of appearing under the pomegranate tree even after the "Tribute to the Huntress" quest goes away with GU57.</blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?</blockquote>Had the same experience. No way to interact with the blooms.

Cyliena

05-15-2010, 11:52 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Thanks for all the feedback. The title has been moved to the 10th repetition reward, any further repetitions beyond that just award another Valorian Bloom (in case you REALLY REALLY like them). <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Have I ever mentioned how much I love you? That's an awesome change, thank you! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />edit: Regarding the fresh pomegranate.. I never saw it either during all of my runs, so maybe it's just really, really rare?

Wingrider01

05-16-2010, 09:32 AM

Any idea when this goes fully live on the production machines? I thought it was 10 days before the release fo teh GU, but it is not the 16th and do not see the NPC's

Bratface

05-17-2010, 02:53 AM

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any idea when this goes fully live on the production machines? I thought it was 10 days before the release fo teh GU, but it is not the 16th and do not see the NPC's</blockquote>Pretty sure it has always been planned to be live a week before.

Matia

05-17-2010, 01:48 PM

<cite>Ashlian@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>Since nearly no one on my server ever hears about Guide events (and I do indeed keep an eye out for them) it's not exactly good advertising as a Prelude event if that's what having Guides and CS reps handing the quest out is intended to do. A serverwide announcement or login message is more effective. I enjoy Guide events, but I think they should be relegated to supplementary quests during Live events (Mistletoe/Snow Generator at Frostfell), rather than being the primary quest givers for an event. If they had some little extra quest related to the release of Halas, given out during the time the main quest was available on the NPC's, that would have been great. Just a suggestion.</blockquote>Did you consider that maybe they DID add the Guide CS part as a way to add some extra time onto a one week deal? Why add a supplemental if you can just add the main quest a little early when done by live folks?

Squeecha

05-17-2010, 01:56 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Same on my server Guk, but we keep an eye out all the time now for one becuase we want to be able to do this but don't want to face the traffic jam that will happen when the enire server is trying to do the quest AND the repeatables all within ONE week.So we got lucky and found a (senior) guide... Who then proceeded to chat about trolls or some race and then gave us food and drink.. No prelude quest or anything.I think, for the benefit of those of us who are anxious to get this quest, that guides shouldn't be logging on just to "chat", they better have this prelude quest or don't waste my time.There is never an announcement, and how many people are actually IN whatever zone they decide to drop into? It's a rare thing to see a guide and really disappointing to chasing on down to get this quest only to be given milk and cookies.I am very disappointed in this situation.</blockquote>So you'll know, most of the time if a Guide is running a Quest, they aren't on as "Guide Soandso". They are in as a character for that Quest.So, not seeing a "Guide" doesn't mean that a quest isn't being run.

Bratface

05-17-2010, 03:19 PM

<cite>Squeecha wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Same on my server Guk, but we keep an eye out all the time now for one becuase we want to be able to do this but don't want to face the traffic jam that will happen when the enire server is trying to do the quest AND the repeatables all within ONE week.So we got lucky and found a (senior) guide... Who then proceeded to chat about trolls or some race and then gave us food and drink.. No prelude quest or anything.I think, for the benefit of those of us who are anxious to get this quest, that guides shouldn't be logging on just to "chat", they better have this prelude quest or don't waste my time.There is never an announcement, and how many people are actually IN whatever zone they decide to drop into? It's a rare thing to see a guide and really disappointing to chasing on down to get this quest only to be given milk and cookies.I am very disappointed in this situation.</blockquote>So you'll know, most of the time if a Guide is running a Quest, they aren't on as "Guide Soandso". They are in as a character for that Quest.So, not seeing a "Guide" doesn't mean that a quest isn't being run.</blockquote>Maybe you should change that.Why hide from us in the first place, and worse when you are supposdely doing this prelude event?I have never seen a guide not be a guide, I think even the Riddle Master was a guide. Why would you purposely make it hard for players to find these things?It was a Guide that had the prelude event, are you seriously saying that it won't always be a guide, that it can be some random whatever that is a "character" for the quest?I repeat, I am very disappointed in this situation.PS. Thanks for the milk and cookies

Wingrider01

05-17-2010, 04:38 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Squeecha wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Same on my server Guk, but we keep an eye out all the time now for one becuase we want to be able to do this but don't want to face the traffic jam that will happen when the enire server is trying to do the quest AND the repeatables all within ONE week.So we got lucky and found a (senior) guide... Who then proceeded to chat about trolls or some race and then gave us food and drink.. No prelude quest or anything.I think, for the benefit of those of us who are anxious to get this quest, that guides shouldn't be logging on just to "chat", they better have this prelude quest or don't waste my time.There is never an announcement, and how many people are actually IN whatever zone they decide to drop into? It's a rare thing to see a guide and really disappointing to chasing on down to get this quest only to be given milk and cookies.I am very disappointed in this situation.</blockquote>So you'll know, most of the time if a Guide is running a Quest, they aren't on as "Guide Soandso". They are in as a character for that Quest.So, not seeing a "Guide" doesn't mean that a quest isn't being run.</blockquote>Maybe you should change that.Why hide from us in the first place, and worse when you are supposdely doing this prelude event?I have never seen a guide not be a guide, I think even the Riddle Master was a guide. Why would you purposely make it hard for players to find these things?It was a Guide that had the prelude event, are you seriously saying that it won't always be a guide, that it can be some random whatever that is a "character" for the quest?I repeat, I am very disappointed in this situation.PS. Thanks for the milk and cookies</blockquote>In the last few days have expierenced two guid run events, one in butcherblock one in everfrost, they where not hiding, they had a quest feather other their head, they where guides

Squeecha

05-17-2010, 06:11 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Squeecha wrote:</cite><blockquote>So you'll know, most of the time if a Guide is running a Quest, they aren't on as "Guide Soandso". They are in as a character for that Quest.So, not seeing a "Guide" doesn't mean that a quest isn't being run.</blockquote>Maybe you should change that.Why hide from us in the first place, and worse when you are supposdely doing this prelude event?I have never seen a guide not be a guide, I think even the Riddle Master was a guide. Why would you purposely make it hard for players to find these things?It was a Guide that had the prelude event, are you seriously saying that it won't always be a guide, that it can be some random whatever that is a "character" for the quest?I repeat, I am very disappointed in this situation.PS. Thanks for the milk and cookies</blockquote>I think you may have misunderstood.It has nothing to do with hiding. Say the Quest involves a big Kerran wanting 10 balls of yarn. If I show up as Senior Guide Squeecha, then I'm a little Ratonga. So for the quests we run we create a character to match the quest. It's still us behind the screen, but the character isn't going to be named "Guide Soandso". If the quest is to track down a poor little ogress in distress, then they'd never find her if the ogress was a little Froglok.And when we run them, we don't hide. That would kinda defeat the purpose. We may send a message across the entire zone, or say something in the level channels, or sometimes post on the forums here, or on the SOE Station forums.

Rijacki

05-17-2010, 06:44 PM

Sadly, the ONE time the quest was being given out on my PvE server when I actually almost had time to get there, it was in a location where only one faction could stay. The guide was in a city right where a group of level 95 guards pathed through. Further because it was factioned city, a character of the other faction could not be called there by CoV. With the current travel system, one of the opposing faction also could not enter that particular zone except by the sewer system (someone of higher level might have been able to enter by one or two suburbs, but not any character below 50, I think) which would have taken too long before the guild left anyway.. but to get to the spot the guide was at would have been highly difficult even for a level 90, because of the pathing of the level 95 guards and the 'paths' through the zone to the spot (Qeynos Harbour by the Queen's statue).I heard about another guide giving quests, not sure if it was the prelude or not, on the dock in Antonica (much better location and globally accessible), probably no less than a minute before the guide left, certainly without any time to get there from any location.But.. while I know guides want to limit the number of players coming to them all at the same time, I do think they need to give some thought to how accessible or deadly an area is for all factions and not just one. Standing in QH where level 95 guards path is worse than standing on the bridge to the Queen's palace in Neriak and least for that bridge one can stand in relative safety without risking death from pausing to read quest text or interact with the quest giver even if both require running a guantlet to get there.I'm looking forward to when the NPCs go live, since then I'll be able to do the quest. I do not rely on ever seeing any guide during my own play time.

Bratface

05-17-2010, 08:14 PM

<cite>Squeecha wrote:</cite><blockquote>And when we run them, we don't hide. That would kinda defeat the purpose. We may send a message across the entire zone, or say something in the level channels, or sometimes post on the forums here, or on the SOE Station forums.</blockquote>Suppose you are in Antonica and you announce it zonewide, just how many people do you think are actually IN Antonica?Most people are out in an instance, or most likely in their GH, not hanging out in Antonica or some other zone.I have played this game since launch, I have participated in many guide events and never once have I ever seen it announced in a chat channel, not one single time.I still have guide quests on my main toon that need a turn in because the guide only "popped on for a minute" and gave the quest and camped, it's been MONTHS that I have had this in my journal and ready for a turn in, yet can't find a guide to finish it for me.I have been able to do guide events when a friend knew about it and sent me a tell, or I happen to stumble on the guide in QH or NQ while on my way to somewhere else.A few times it has been because of spamming /w all guide, since guides don't show up on track, so if you are telling me that doing a /w all guide is useless then I really don't know what to say to you other than gee thanks for that.

Catria

05-18-2010, 11:15 AM

I thought this was supposed to be put in as a static quest a week before the GU launch, but I don't see it on live servers yet and there wasn't a patch today. Isn't the GU date supposed to be a week from today?

Wingrider01

05-18-2010, 04:30 PM

<cite>Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought this was supposed to be put in as a static quest a week before the GU launch, but I don't see it on live servers yet and there wasn't a patch today. Isn't the GU date supposed to be a week from today?</blockquote>In now

Domino

05-19-2010, 02:05 AM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?</blockquote>That is correct. You don't need to be on any quest, once Halas Reborn is live and for the forseeable future there will be a very rare chance of a house item pomegranate being harvestable under the pomegranate tree. (It looks identical to the ones that will appear for the Tribute quest, but unlike them, will be visible to anyone with or without the quest, and will continue to rarely appear even after that quest is long gone.) It is, however, extremely rare. The fruit of a god's tree is not a common find! I do not recommend trying to camp it.

ashen1973

05-19-2010, 04:24 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?</blockquote>That is correct. You don't need to be on any quest, once Halas Reborn is live and for the forseeable future there will be a very rare chance of a house item pomegranate being harvestable under the pomegranate tree. (It looks identical to the ones that will appear for the Tribute quest, but unlike them, will be visible to anyone with or without the quest, and will continue to rarely appear even after that quest is long gone.) It is, however, extremely rare. The fruit of a god's tree is not a common find! I do not recommend trying to camp it.</blockquote>If this item is as rare as you say, I can pretty much guarantee it will be camped. Moreso if it is tradeable :/rare open world harvest or clicky spawns are a bad idea. I can remember the quest starter stone in Feerrott (for the power regen robe). There would be a queue of people at the spawn point 24/7.

Bratface

05-19-2010, 04:45 AM

<cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?</blockquote>That is correct. You don't need to be on any quest, once Halas Reborn is live and for the forseeable future there will be a very rare chance of a house item pomegranate being harvestable under the pomegranate tree. (It looks identical to the ones that will appear for the Tribute quest, but unlike them, will be visible to anyone with or without the quest, and will continue to rarely appear even after that quest is long gone.) It is, however, extremely rare. The fruit of a god's tree is not a common find! I do not recommend trying to camp it.</blockquote>If this item is as rare as you say, I can pretty much guarantee it will be camped. Moreso if it is tradeable :/rare open world harvest or clicky spawns are a bad idea. I can remember the quest starter stone in Feerrott (for the power regen robe). There would be a queue of people at the spawn point 24/7.</blockquote>Yeah, you can safely bet that this will be a problem and a source of much contention amongst players.I remember the spawn for that robe in Feerrott, I always saw someone camped there waiting for the spawn, that spot was never left unattended. I didn't care about getting the robe but I do care about a house item.

Eridu

05-19-2010, 06:56 AM

It's being camped on AB already. It's Lame.

Amphibia

05-19-2010, 11:00 AM

<cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?</blockquote>That is correct. You don't need to be on any quest, once Halas Reborn is live and for the forseeable future there will be a very rare chance of a house item pomegranate being harvestable under the pomegranate tree. (It looks identical to the ones that will appear for the Tribute quest, but unlike them, will be visible to anyone with or without the quest, and will continue to rarely appear even after that quest is long gone.) It is, however, extremely rare. The fruit of a god's tree is not a common find! I do not recommend trying to camp it.</blockquote>If this item is as rare as you say, I can pretty much guarantee it will be camped. Moreso if it is tradeable :/rare open world harvest or clicky spawns are a bad idea. I can remember the quest starter stone in Feerrott (for the power regen robe). There would be a queue of people at the spawn point 24/7.</blockquote>Agree.Sorry, but that just isn't fun. Such things are ten times more enjoyable if everyone have a fair shot at getting one, but that's my opinion.That said, loved the prelude quest and the rewards, they were awesome. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />

Cyliena

05-19-2010, 11:27 AM

<cite>Eridu wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's being camped on AB already. It's Lame.</blockquote>That's silly since I'm pretty certain it won't appear until after GU56 launches.Regardless, I must agree that super rare will equate to uber camping. I'd rather have it be somewhat like the NotD and FF fogs, only able to be seen if you have X item on you and respawns every X number of minutes. But I do understand the thematic reason for having it rare, so I'll just start camping the broker in a few months instead. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

GrunEQ

05-19-2010, 05:52 PM

Probably everyone with more than one account will have an alt actively camped there, otherwise most will probably place an alt there to log in ever so often. Good way to guarentee a lot of people hanging around.

Mystfit

06-02-2010, 02:07 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>So let me make sure I understand this.We do not need to be on the quest to get the harvestable house item, fresh pomegranate? I went to CL with two toons that were not on the quest and nothing there glowed for me, I was unable ot interact with the blooms, the little tree or the large tree.How do you get the fresh pomegranate? Is there another spawn that is what gives the house item and it just wasn't there when I went?</blockquote>That is correct. You don't need to be on any quest, once Halas Reborn is live and for the forseeable future there will be a very rare chance of a house item pomegranate being harvestable under the pomegranate tree. (It looks identical to the ones that will appear for the Tribute quest, but unlike them, will be visible to anyone with or without the quest, and will continue to rarely appear even after that quest is long gone.) It is, however, extremely rare. The fruit of a god's tree is not a common find! I do not recommend trying to camp it.</blockquote>Bountiful harvest ftw!! Went to check on this puppy, it was up..harvested and BAM! Got two!!!