What He Said

[aggerts]

<p><span ><p><span ><span style="font-size: medium; color: #33cccc;"><em><strong>attrox wrote.</strong></em></span></span></p><p>why shouldn't you get good gear from BGing?</p><p>you raiders fight mobs who are there to be beaten us PVPers fight people who are there to win.</p><p>You are making assumptions that we all Raid PVE.</p><p>Well let me state, this is not the case</p><p>why shouldn't you earn tolken gear for a full set, of armor "honestly you did not earn it"</p><p>Your turn around time between matches is much fasterr, than that of the single mark quest in comparison minimum being 18 hours no to mentions more pre reqs involved all to earn marks for lesser stat gear. very unbalanced.</p><p>No risk versuse rewards win 3 or win 1 with the game generating groups for you if it takes longer than that it has become your self infllicted time sink.</p><p>Contested mobs for updates which do not exist in your PVP section of the game for quest updates, as wel as Latency riddled overland zones and instances / dungeons thanks to increased Data flow BG.</p><p>equal opotunity you say? , "give in come to BG become part of the poorly implemented largest contributor to solo/ group / Raid lag and join the fun you win even if you lose"</p><p>I say we al have already lost, being the victims of empty promises from the Developers.</p><p>1 mssing content</p><p>2 class balances</p><p>3. gear balances /  missing mark recipe for remaining pieces left out</p><p>4. over censorship when comunity relations does not llike what they read.</p><p>It is my choice to not participate in BG but is it fair that we are forced to in order to earn near end game gear?</p><p>This the above would make me part of a problem that hinders all of PVE just because you don't take notice of it , does not make it accptable. Mcuh like you ill gotten BG gains or a purchased Myth update do not make you a Raider or even an acceptable instance groupmate. I do not make those assumtions, all I know about you is that you enjoy PVP which is fine if that is your game.</p><p>This person is spot on <span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><em><strong>"Risk vs Reward"</strong></em></span></p><p>I can still remember the old days in MMO's when this statement actually ment something, these days its more like <span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><em><strong>"Cash me up biatches ill give you whatever you want"</strong></em></span>.</p><p>Kids these days I want, i want, crying till they get there way /sigh will always win at the end of the day.</p></span></p>

[Aleste]

<p>Bg gear is not endgame... firstly and secondly its alot of time invested to get so it balances very well imo. Lets do a worse case kk follow me. Say im working on a 50/50 piece of bg armor im not at my pc so lets just say the leggings.50 cogs 50 rums (or w.e). Lets say i solo que and each match takes 15mins. If im on the losing side it will take me 750 mins to get 50 cogs.. you also need 50 rums or trophys just say they also are 15 min rounds now your talking 1500 mins or 25 hours of play time for one piece.. and it ok for pvp.. and subpar for pve. NEXT....</p>

[Aleste]

<p>On a side note, its a new age. Time is the new risk we are sitting behind pcs playing a toon on a remote server. All you ever lose is time. Your dang right i want a piece of subpar (only reason anyone complains is its fabled taged) gear for 25 hours of my life missed yeah.. if i went on 4-5 raids it would take less time and id get a piece. Please cut this harsh chain of thought. Mark gear is far eaiser to get. It cost way less per piece and you can get master drops in the zones.</p>

[Taldier]

<p><cite>aggerts wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span><p><span><span style="color: #33cccc; font-size: medium;"><em><strong>attrox wrote.</strong></em></span></span></p><p>why shouldn't you get good gear from BGing?</p><p>you raiders fight mobs who are there to be beaten us PVPers fight people who are there to win.</p><p>You are making assumptions that we all Raid PVE.</p><p>Well let me state, this is not the case</p><p>why shouldn't you earn tolken gear for a full set, of armor "honestly you did not earn it"</p><p>Your turn around time between matches is much fasterr, than that of the single mark quest in comparison minimum being 18 hours no to mentions more pre reqs involved all to earn marks for lesser stat gear. very unbalanced.</p><p>No risk versuse rewards win 3 or win 1 with the game generating groups for you if it takes longer than that it has become your self infllicted time sink.</p><p>Contested mobs for updates which do not exist in your PVP section of the game for quest updates, as wel as Latency riddled overland zones and instances / dungeons thanks to increased Data flow BG.</p><p>equal opotunity you say? , "give in come to BG become part of the poorly implemented largest contributor to solo/ group / Raid lag and join the fun you win even if you lose"</p><p>I say we al have already lost, being the victims of empty promises from the Developers.</p><p>1 mssing content</p><p>2 class balances</p><p>3. gear balances /  missing mark recipe for remaining pieces left out</p><p>4. over censorship when comunity relations does not llike what they read.</p><p>It is my choice to not participate in BG but is it fair that we are forced to in order to earn near end game gear?</p><p>This the above would make me part of a problem that hinders all of PVE just because you don't take notice of it , does not make it accptable. Mcuh like you ill gotten BG gains or a purchased Myth update do not make you a Raider or even an acceptable instance groupmate. I do not make those assumtions, all I know about you is that you enjoy PVP which is fine if that is your game.</p><p>This person is spot on <span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><em><strong>"Risk vs Reward"</strong></em></span></p><p>I can still remember the old days in MMO's when this statement actually ment something, these days its more like <span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><em><strong>"Cash me up biatches ill give you whatever you want"</strong></em></span>.</p><p>Kids these days I want, i want, crying till they get there way /sigh will always win at the end of the day.</p></span></p></blockquote><p>First of all, I had to read this like three times just to follow your chain of thought, atleast figure out how to quote properly please.</p><p>Pvp gear is not intended to be mark gear.  Pvp gear exists for hardcore pvpers to compete with hardcore raiders in pvp combat.</p><p>And yes, the fact that our pvp gear was given away on bg merchants for random minigames is criminal.</p><p>The stuff should be atleast twice as good and the bg version should be bg only.</p><p>Obviously that isnt happening, but the point remains that pvp gear is not intended to be the equivalent of casual instance gear.</p><p>Exactly what "risks" are you talking about in doing trivial casual instances for marks?  Running deep forge for the 100000th time?  The zone is pratically soloable.</p><p>Also none of your numbered list points are remotely related to bg's.  The first one you might be able to make a somewhat twisted connection, but the others are just random complaints.</p>