Guild Name Change Potion [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Rothgar

04-15-2010, 07:09 PM

<cite>shotens wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is one for the GM that really didn’t help and said I need to put this out to the Game Devs. After 11 players from an old guild decided to get back to the game and start a new guild . We then realized one of us had a lvl 53 guild and would be great if we could change the name to our new guild. The is no potion to do this and no way of changing a guild name in game. So we petitioned for the change and well let’s just say the GMs let us know how they felt about it. I would like to know when the customer’s needs went out the door with eq2. Its ok eq2 team, this kind of service is all over the country now and has become kind of the norm. So what I ask is for the Dev team to put out a product that we can spend our hard earned money on that allows us to change a guild name. I hope the right people ( the ones that realize the customers pay the bills) are able to put this in the game.Thank you A valued customer for over 10 years</blockquote>It's done and should be available soon.

shotens

04-15-2010, 07:12 PM

Eveningsong

04-15-2010, 07:15 PM

How will using the potion affect things like the guild websites and data on EQ2players? I have friends who were forced to change their guild name after the original server mergers. That was annoying but they found something else they liked, however their EQ2 guild website still shows the original guild name and they haven't been able to get it fixed (either by changing the website to match their revised guild name, or changing their guild name back to the original one, since the guild holding their original name is no longer active).

Eveningsong

04-15-2010, 07:16 PM

<cite>shotens wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do you mind if I ask when they actually started working on it.. would be nice to see if the GM was aware of it and just flamed all of us because it was fun.</blockquote>If you have a log of the conversation, you should forward it to Customer Service. There's no excuse for rudeness/flaming by a GM.

shotens

04-15-2010, 07:36 PM

KerowynnKaotic

04-15-2010, 08:18 PM

<cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>*snipped* It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>oh .. *happy dance*

GlitterPaws

04-15-2010, 10:43 PM

Good heavens OP, are you saying your post is the epitome of sweetness and diplomacy?You received an answer from a Dev quite rapidly and yet still had to complain and be disrespectful.Such behavior is now the norm for MMO forums around the world. The entitled ones completely dismissing all other non-complaining players who also pay to play games.The $.53USD to $3.15USD per day, depending on the number of accounts one has, seems incredibly trivial to the amount of spite posted on these forums.I heartily agree with Kaisha and join her and many others in a happy dance for the forthcoming potion.

Barx

04-16-2010, 10:36 AM

<cite>shotens wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do you mind if I ask when they actually started working on it.. would be nice to see if the GM was aware of it and just flamed all of us because it was fun.</blockquote>GMs know only what they're told. If the potion was in development they likely did not know about it. That's still no excuse for flaming, of course.Oh, and I love Rothgar's way of responding to things saying "Yeah, we're doing that. Should be done soon." Especially on things we had zero reason to expect were coming to us anytime soon <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" />

Trifixion

04-16-2010, 11:16 AM

<cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shotens wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is one for the GM that really didn’t help and said I need to put this out to the Game Devs. After 11 players from an old guild decided to get back to the game and start a new guild . We then realized one of us had a lvl 53 guild and would be great if we could change the name to our new guild. The is no potion to do this and no way of changing a guild name in game. So we petitioned for the change and well let’s just say the GMs let us know how they felt about it. I would like to know when the customer’s needs went out the door with eq2. Its ok eq2 team, this kind of service is all over the country now and has become kind of the norm. So what I ask is for the Dev team to put out a product that we can spend our hard earned money on that allows us to change a guild name. I hope the right people ( the ones that realize the customers pay the bills) are able to put this in the game.Thank you A valued customer for over 10 years</blockquote>It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>Now that right there is GREAT customer service

Amphibia

04-16-2010, 05:17 PM

<cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>*snipped* It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>oh .. *happy dance*</blockquote>*joins in*<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Attrikane

04-19-2010, 01:21 PM

Nice...now let me try.Can we please get a potion to fix the eq2players website? Rock on! Thanks!/waits

Oakum

04-19-2010, 07:57 PM

<cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>*snipped* It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>oh .. *happy dance*</blockquote>Next question, what is the definition of "SOON". lol.

Hellswrath

04-19-2010, 09:29 PM

<cite>Attricane@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice...now let me try.Can we please get a potion to fix the eq2players website? Rock on! Thanks!/waits</blockquote>Nice. At least this post is somewhat relevant to this forum.

CraigH

04-19-2010, 10:00 PM

This is awesome!

Barx

04-19-2010, 11:30 PM

<cite>Oakum wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>*snipped* It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>oh .. *happy dance*</blockquote>Next question, what is the definition of "SOON". lol.</blockquote>That's the old SOE "Soon" (TM) as you should know -- it can range anywhere from a few days to a few month to more <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

syste

04-20-2010, 12:36 PM

Here is a question: If servers merge in the future who gets to keep their name? For example:A guild is created on Server A: February 1, 2010 and called "Whatever"A guild was created on Server B: March 4, 2009 and called "Somethingdumb" but renames the guild too "Whatever" on May 7, 2010.Later that year servers A and B merge, who gets to keep the name? The first created or the first one with the name?

Attrikane

04-21-2010, 01:53 PM

<cite>Hellswrath@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Attricane@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Nice...now let me try.Can we please get a potion to fix the eq2players website? Rock on! Thanks!/waits</blockquote>Nice. At least this post is somewhat relevant to this forum.</blockquote>Oh yeah! I'm all about relevance baby! Maybe if I hit enough threads about the issue we'll actually get some sort of status update from the powers that be.

Drakah

05-16-2010, 03:43 PM

Any news on this potion?

Jaremai

05-17-2010, 08:35 AM

I asked a CSR - they had never heard of such a thing, even after referring them to this post.I dropped Rothgar a PM recently and he said he did not know when it would go live either.I'm anxious to give Sony some $ for this but they aren't making it easy. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Aerfen

05-17-2010, 11:36 AM

So wait....are you saying that SOE CAN in fact change guild names for us and will be putting a potion in the Marketplace?? And that the lame A** excuse about "we can't because of the coding" (even though they willingly changed guild names that were in violation) is no long valid?Please reference this thread for said lame excuse, lol: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=467379">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=467379</a>If this is the case....THANK YOU for listening!!! *Does the Happy Pally dance*

VikingGamer

05-17-2010, 12:04 PM

<cite>Oakum wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>*snipped* It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>oh .. *happy dance*</blockquote>Next question, what is the definition of "SOON". lol.</blockquote>If he says it is "done" that means it will probably come out with the upcoming GU. Otherwise I suspect he would have been a bit more circumspect. Of course the standard "no promises" disclaimers surely apply.

VikingGamer

05-17-2010, 12:08 PM

<cite>systemV wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here is a question: If servers merge in the future who gets to keep their name? For example:A guild is created on Server A: February 1, 2010 and called "Whatever"A guild was created on Server B: March 4, 2009 and called "Somethingdumb" but renames the guild too "Whatever" on May 7, 2010.Later that year servers A and B merge, who gets to keep the name? The first created or the first one with the name?</blockquote>Guild vs Guild PvP arena style battle. The winner gets to keep the guild name. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />

Skull_Splitter

05-24-2010, 04:05 AM

<cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shotens wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is one for the GM that really didn’t help and said I need to put this out to the Game Devs. After 11 players from an old guild decided to get back to the game and start a new guild . We then realized one of us had a lvl 53 guild and would be great if we could change the name to our new guild. The is no potion to do this and no way of changing a guild name in game. So we petitioned for the change and well let’s just say the GMs let us know how they felt about it. I would like to know when the customer’s needs went out the door with eq2. Its ok eq2 team, this kind of service is all over the country now and has become kind of the norm. So what I ask is for the Dev team to put out a product that we can spend our hard earned money on that allows us to change a guild name. I hope the right people ( the ones that realize the customers pay the bills) are able to put this in the game.Thank you A valued customer for over 10 years</blockquote>It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>"Yeah, we're doing that. Should be done soon."That sort of sounds not so concrete as what he posted....Man I wish I could find the SWG Dev post about "the definition of soon" lulz in the mmorpg world

Dravun

05-24-2010, 11:41 AM

This is fantastic news. Now I have 2 things to wait for in intense anticipation! Guild Rename Potions!!!andNew Earthen Avatar VIII models!!!Hopefully I won't have to wait another 7 months for Christmas after all.

Frul

05-24-2010, 01:34 PM

For your enjoyment <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /><a href="http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16310&p_created=1146608838&p_sid=MMcdHH*j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=1&p_srch=1&p_lva=16680&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX 3Jvd19jbnQ9NzIsNzImcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY 9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfb mwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1zb29u&p_li=&p_topview=1" target="_blank">Soon</a>

Jaremai

06-07-2010, 12:55 PM

Creeping up on two months of soon-ness.I would think since this would be additional revenue for SOE, that it would be in their interest to get it out soon-er than later. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I know every week I anxiously look at the "Welcome to EQII" splash screen when I log in hoping to see it appear under the whats-new-in-the-marketplace box.

Dravun

06-11-2010, 03:24 PM

<cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know every week I anxiously look at the "Welcome to EQII" splash screen when I log in hoping to see it appear under the whats-new-in-the-marketplace box.</blockquote>I'm right there with ya Jaremai. Every time I log in I look at that marketplace window just on the odd chance that it might have been added by some "ninja in the night".Apparently the prospect of copying WoW's idea of selling mounts to the masses was considered more impotant.

feldon30

06-14-2010, 09:33 AM

<cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>So wait....are you saying that SOE CAN in fact change guild names for us and will be putting a potion in the Marketplace?? And that the lame A** excuse about "we can't because of the coding" (even though they willingly changed guild names that were in violation) is no long valid?Please reference this thread for said lame excuse, lol: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=467379">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=467379</a>If this is the case....THANK YOU for listening!!! *Does the Happy Pally dance*</blockquote>Any time you are told that a data point is "hard coded" or cannot be changed "because of the coding", your leg is being pulled. EQ2 runs on an Oracle database. Anything can be changed, with enough programming effort and dedication.

GlitterPaws

06-14-2010, 11:08 AM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any time you are told that a data point is "hard coded" or cannot be changed "because of the coding", your leg is being pulled. EQ2 runs on an Oracle database. Anything can be changed, with enough programming effort and dedication.</blockquote>Hmmm, sloppy programming by prima donna programmers has been the main reason for "because of the coding" in my experience. Clean-up of code can take months, even years, if sections have been thrown in hastily and/or with no respect for the rest of the development team/process.

Vonotar

06-14-2010, 02:20 PM

<cite>GlitterPaws wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any time you are told that a data point is "hard coded" or cannot be changed "because of the coding", your leg is being pulled. EQ2 runs on an Oracle database. Anything can be changed, with enough programming effort and dedication.</blockquote>Hmmm, sloppy programming by prima donna programmers has been the main reason for "because of the coding" in my experience. Clean-up of code can take months, even years, if sections have been thrown in hastily and/or with no respect for the rest of the development team/process.</blockquote>In which case "Soon" may actually mean, "Whenever we have chance to run the clean-up code on all the servers"

Dravun

06-17-2010, 03:19 PM

<cite>Vonotar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GlitterPaws wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any time you are told that a data point is "hard coded" or cannot be changed "because of the coding", your leg is being pulled. EQ2 runs on an Oracle database. Anything can be changed, with enough programming effort and dedication.</blockquote>Hmmm, sloppy programming by prima donna programmers has been the main reason for "because of the coding" in my experience. Clean-up of code can take months, even years, if sections have been thrown in hastily and/or with no respect for the rest of the development team/process.</blockquote>In which case "Soon" may actually mean, "Whenever we have chance to run the clean-up code on all the servers"</blockquote>Except for at this point we've already been told that it is done. <cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>I guess I may be mistaken in my belief that "done" means "ready to go live".

Vonotar

06-23-2010, 07:31 AM

<cite>Dravun wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vonotar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GlitterPaws wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any time you are told that a data point is "hard coded" or cannot be changed "because of the coding", your leg is being pulled. EQ2 runs on an Oracle database. Anything can be changed, with enough programming effort and dedication.</blockquote>Hmmm, sloppy programming by prima donna programmers has been the main reason for "because of the coding" in my experience. Clean-up of code can take months, even years, if sections have been thrown in hastily and/or with no respect for the rest of the development team/process.</blockquote>In which case "Soon" may actually mean, "Whenever we have chance to run the clean-up code on all the servers"</blockquote>Except for at this point we've already been told that it is done. <cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's done and should be available soon.</blockquote>I guess I may be mistaken in my belief that "done" means "ready to go live". </blockquote>"done" may simply mean that the potion is ready and not reflect the fact that a one-off tweak needs to be made to every guild in the database before the potion (and associated code) can be added.

Barx

06-23-2010, 04:51 PM

<cite>Vonotar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>"done" may simply mean that the potion is ready and not reflect the fact that a one-off tweak needs to be made to every guild in the database before the potion (and associated code) can be added.</blockquote>It can also mean that the code itself is done but that it hasn't been finalized / priced / approved / whatever by the suits <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.Or maybe it was done but failed QA /shrug. This is just a case in point for why they don't tell people about things until it really is ready to go.

Brook

06-23-2010, 07:37 PM

Sad that it will only be available on the new ruleset server that has the skeletal revamps.

Aerfen

06-23-2010, 10:53 PM

<cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sad that it will only be available on the new ruleset server that has the skeletal revamps.</blockquote>I must have missed something...can you elaborate or provide a link with info? Thanks

Jaremai

06-24-2010, 01:04 PM

I guess I missed it as well. What new server, and where was it said that this would only be available there?I call shenanigans.*gives Rothgar a cookie to move this into production faster*

Eveningsong

06-24-2010, 01:36 PM

<cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sad that it will only be available on the new ruleset server that has the skeletal revamps.</blockquote>I must have missed something...can you elaborate or provide a link with info? Thanks</blockquote>I think that was a bit of sarcasm <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Barx

06-24-2010, 01:51 PM

<cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I guess I missed it as well. What new server, and where was it said that this would only be available there?I call shenanigans.*gives Rothgar a cookie to move this into production faster*</blockquote>There isn't, that person was being a smart-behind (really, ars* is censored?) by talking about things that were never done (although TBH, I don't think a progression server ever made it into serious planning; if it did I never saw much about it beyond some initial idea as 'something we'd like to do when we get to it'<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

Aerfen

06-24-2010, 04:18 PM

<cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sad that it will only be available on the new ruleset server that has the skeletal revamps.</blockquote>I must have missed something...can you elaborate or provide a link with info? Thanks</blockquote>I think that was a bit of sarcasm <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><div><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I guess I missed it as well. What new server, and where was it said that this would only be available there?I call shenanigans.*gives Rothgar a cookie to move this into production faster*</blockquote>There isn't, that person was being a smart-behind (really, ars* is censored?) by talking about things that were never done (although TBH, I don't think a progression server ever made it into serious planning; if it did I never saw much about it beyond some initial idea as 'something we'd like to do when we get to it'<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />.<div></div></blockquote></div>BAH! This is why I'm known as the gullible one in the family...

Shiirr

06-24-2010, 05:57 PM

Pssst! Quick, over here. See that bridge over there? The really big one? Have I got a deal for you!

Brook

06-24-2010, 06:11 PM

<cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sad that it will only be available on the new ruleset server that has the skeletal revamps.</blockquote>I must have missed something...can you elaborate or provide a link with info? Thanks</blockquote>I think that was a bit of sarcasm <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><div><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I guess I missed it as well. What new server, and where was it said that this would only be available there?I call shenanigans.*gives Rothgar a cookie to move this into production faster*</blockquote>There isn't, that person was being a smart-behind (really, ars* is censored?) by talking about things that were never done (although TBH, I don't think a progression server ever made it into serious planning; if it did I never saw much about it beyond some initial idea as 'something we'd like to do when we get to it'<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />.<div></div></blockquote></div>BAH! This is why I'm known as the gullible one in the family... </blockquote>I apologize for being a little sarcastic.

Aerfen

06-28-2010, 07:09 PM

<cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote><blockquote></blockquote>I apologize for being a little sarcastic.</blockquote>HAHA, No worries!! So...any word on this? Think they are waiting until Fan Faire?

Barx

06-29-2010, 09:48 AM

<cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>HAHA, No worries!! So...any word on this? Think they are waiting until Fan Faire?</blockquote>Hmm now that's a possibility. We are getting close (a little over a month to go!).

ke'la

07-08-2010, 06:09 PM

<cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>HAHA, No worries!! So...any word on this? Think they are waiting until Fan Faire?</blockquote>Hmm now that's a possibility. We are getting close (a little over a month to go!).</blockquote>One thing I am thinking they might not of thought of when they said it was "Done" was who accually is the "Guild Leader" especally in guilds that have multiple people at the top rank, in some kind of leadership councle? Or is it the person that started the guild and if that is the case, what happens if they stepped down as leader, or left the game and got removed at leader via Patition?

Barx

07-08-2010, 08:35 PM

<cite>ke'la wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing I am thinking they might not of thought of when they said it was "Done" was who accually is the "Guild Leader" especally in guilds that have multiple people at the top rank, in some kind of leadership councle? Or is it the person that started the guild and if that is the case, what happens if they stepped down as leader, or left the game and got removed at leader via Patition?</blockquote>In almost every case, anyone that is at the highest ("Guild Leader") rank is considered a leader and should be able to use it. The only time the founder has special power to my knowledge is that they are considered the true "owner" of the guild for SOEs purposes, and I believe can reclaim a guild they founded through SOE's CS (disclaimer: or so I've been told, never tested or seen it tested personally).

Silkmyst

07-09-2010, 12:12 AM

Just would like to add my two cents, I am really looking forward to the guild name change potion beingimplemented. I'm not gonna state my guild name here, but trust me, it needs to be changed lol!Silk

Jaremai

07-12-2010, 08:22 AM

*hugs to whoever finally pushed this into production*I even got a discovery on the potion.. lol. Dunno if it was just for the server or serverwide but either way it was humorous.My guild is very happy now, tyvm. I was expecting $100 USD, and pleasantly surprised at $55. Now I have some SC left over.. hm.

Dravun

07-27-2010, 10:14 PM

I got home tonight and logged on to find that the Guild Name change potion is no longer listed in the Marketplace.I asked what the deal was in chat and ran a search on the forums but I haven't found any info about why it has disappeared. Could someone please shed some light on this issue?

Cynith

07-28-2010, 02:11 AM

<cite>Dravun wrote:</cite><blockquote>I got home tonight and logged on to find that the Guild Name change potion is no longer listed in the Marketplace.I asked what the deal was in chat and ran a search on the forums but I haven't found any info about why it has disappeared. Could someone please shed some light on this issue? </blockquote>It still shows on my Marketplace - are you sure the character you checked on was listed as the guild leader? only a guild leaders can see and purchase this item.

Eritius

07-28-2010, 11:30 AM

The price of 5500 SC isn't terribly bad, though would there be a way for guild members to all chip in for something like this? Having one person bear the weight of the cost is a bit much, especially if a bunch of guildies all want to contribute.

Dravun

07-28-2010, 08:19 PM

Found it! Just had to log in my GL. Thanks. I also think that allowing people to trade, gift, or give SC would be a good idea. It doesn't really make much sense that people, especially guild members, shouldn't be able to shift SC around from account to account.

Jacquette

08-02-2010, 11:02 AM

How long does it take for the name change to show up on the website guild lookup? - will it happen automatically or will we have to ask someone to switch it manually? I've been watching a couple guilds who have changed recently - several days later and the old guild name is still attached to the character lookups and the new guild names are not searchable - old guild names still are.