Existing Deity "Status" in the Everquest2 Universe

[Volerin]

<p> I have a question about the deity Structure in Everquest2.  Based on reading many posts in this forum about the deity structure and subsequent lore, I would like to understand better how the those such as Bertoxxulous and Rodcet Nife come to be "Gods".Previous posts have outlined that Bertoxxulous and Rodet Nife are not in the group that I would call "elder" Gods.  Elder meaning those that have existed since before the game started.  I  understand that their are tiers of Gods in the world, Greater, Lesser, Elemental, etc... each with their own sphere of influence, but how does one in Everquest2 get (or be chosen) to ascend to God status?I can understand Mayong and less so Zeb, but how did Rodcet and Bertoxxulous assume their respective mantles?</p><p>Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>First, there is The Nameless: The God of All. The Creator of All Existence.</p><p>He created the Elemental Gods to reign control over the physical properties of the universe itself. Earth, Water, Fire, Air. From those elements, they created the Greater Gods to cover over the more prominent Physical and Mental aspects of a world such as Love, Hate, Honor, Fear, War, Peace, physical growth, physical and mental health, weather, disease, etc.</p><p>Some of those gods decided to extend their own influence of power further by creating Lesser Dieties: Full-fledged Gods in every sense, who control a sphere of influence that delves further into that territory.</p><p>Solusek Ro is the most prominant god to do this. His sphere of influence is the Sun, Flames, and Magic. He decided to create Druzzil Ro and gave her control over Magic itself.</p><p>Druzzil Ro herself, despite being a lesser god, has enough power to create gods herself. She created Ayonae Ro, the Lesser God of Music and the Arts. Seeing that it's Magic itself, she's also demonstrated in the past that she has more power than the elemental gods themselves. Don't delve too much into that.</p><p>Finally, there are Demi-Gods. Mortals who have been turned into gods because a god saw a certain quality in them they admired. Innoruuk created Saryrn, the Demi-Goddess of Pain and Torment. Cazic Thule ascended <span>Vazaelle Kalyne, an Erudite who had been driven mad with insanity, into the Demi-Goddess of Insanity. Quellious ascended her more devouted worshipper, a monk named Master Wu, into the Demi-God of Serenity.</span> There are other examples, but the point is that they were tranformed into gods because another god willed it.Zebuxoruk seems to be a rather unique case. He is the God of Knowledge... but he originally was a mortal who discovered how to become a God. He doesn't seem to exhibit any specific powers or sphere of influence, but because he found the knowledge to become a god, he is now (unofficially) the God of Knowledge. Over the course of history, he's actually slipped back and forth between being a god and a mortal numerous times, and always seemed to originally forget how he used to be a god until others helped him unlock his past.</p><p>The main storyline in EQ2 has come to reveal that there have been gods replaced in the past. Anashti Sul is the biggest example. She used to be the God of Health before Rodcet Nife arrived. She had good intentions in mind when she wanted to "Cure Death" by creating Undeath. This ended up being viewed as a curse than a blessing, so the other Gods banished her to the Void, and Rodcet Nife would soon take over. I can only imagine what he had to write down on his job application to get that position, since it's never really explained how he became the new God of Health or what qualifications enabled him to become it. <span style="color: #3366ff;">In both Bert and Rodcet's stories, it's never really stated HOW they came to be gods. They just.. did.</span></p><p>We learn through Anasthi's storyline that a God of Disease only came to be sometime after she was banished into the Void. She found Bertoxxulous as an enemy because he represents Disease, the very thing she chose to fight and protect against. He also uses undeath as an unintentional aspect of his influence - her very own creation used against her and against her permission. How would he ever know though, she was banished long before he came to be. Bertoxxulous has his own creation stories from the first game, but nothing is ever stated as true. EQ2 sort of hints that Bert and Rodcet both have a pre-existing relationship before they came to be gods though.. it's not really expanded upon much.</p><p>Roehn Theer, the Avatar of the Nameless, is specifically tasked with the power to kill a god if they step too far over their boundries. The other gods rightfully fear him, because he could end them. They managed to banish him to the void as well just for thier own protection. Despite being an all-powerful godslayer, it turns out that mortals like us are actually his weakness. While fighting him, we find out that he has actually killed at least 4 gods in the past. We learn thier names, but we don't know who they were or what sphere of influence they reigned over.</p>

[Volerin]

<p>Thank you for the detailed breakdown in how the "Organization" is set up and maintained in the game Cusashorn.  This was informative and really helped to put all the various peices together.</p><p>It will be interestiong to see how they manage the "opening" left by the fall of Erollosi for mantle of Love.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>You can bet she'll be brought back to life. Erollisi was a fan favorite among the community, moreso than most other gods, despite that only a puppet of her from the original Plane of Mischief was the closest we ever got to seeing her or her plane in the first game.</p><p>Starting off her storyline with her being killed off only means that we'll get a satisfying ending by seeing her brought back to life.</p>

[Garnaf]

<p>Using the list from the good old PoP manual.</p><p>Overdeity-</p><p>The Nameless (All Things.  Assumed to have never left, since Norrath still exists)</p><p>Elemental Gods-</p><p>Fennin Ro (Fire, Unknown Status)</p><p>Xegony (Air, Unknown Status)</p><p>Rathe (Earth, Unknown Status)</p><p>E'ci (Water as a Solid, Unknown Status)</p><p>Povar (Water as a Gas, Unknown Status)</p><p>Tarew Marr (Water as a Liquid, Unknown Status)</p><p>Major Deities-</p><p>Bertoxxulous (Disease, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Brell Serilis (All things under the earth, crafting, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Bristlebane (Thieves, Pranks, Halflings, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Cazic-Thule (Fear, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Erollisi Marr (Love, Known Deceased)</p><p>Innoruuk (Hate, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Karana (Weather and Storms, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Mithaniel Marr (Light, Honor, Valor, Courage, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Prexus (Oceans, Unknown Status)</p><p>Quellious (Peace, Harmony, Tranquility, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Rallos Zek (War, Combat, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Rodcet Nife (Health, Healing, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Solusek Ro (The Sun, Wizards, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Terris-Thule (Nightmares, Unknown Status)</p><p>Tribunal (Justice, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Tunare (the Natural World, Growth, Life, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Veeshan (Dragons, the Sky, Unknown Status)</p><p>Minor Deities-</p><p>Ayonae Ro (The Arts, Music, Unknown Status)</p><p>Druzzil Ro (Magic, Unknown Status, Assumed active since magic still works)</p><p>Luclin (Shadowns, Unknown Status)</p><p>Morell Thule (Dreams, Known Returned, Not Worshipable)</p><p>Saryn (Torment, Pain, Unknown Status)</p><p>Tallon Zek (Strategy, Archery, Unknown Status, Assumed Active due to Tallonite Presence on The Vigilant)</p><p>Vallon Zek (Tactics, Unknown Status)</p><p>Vazaelle Kaleine (Insanity, Known Deceased, her bones are the Necromancer Mythical IIRC)</p><p>Zebuxoruk (Knowledge, The Forsaken, Never Left Norrath, Refuses to be Worshiped  See: Zhen Mei)</p><p>Not Listed-</p><p>Sullon Zek (Rage, Berserkers, Unknown, Assumed Active due to Sullonite Intervention in Munzok's)</p><p>Rhoen Theer (Balance, Godkilling, Known Deceased)</p><p>Anashti Sul (Eternal Life, The Undead, Returned and Worshipable)</p><p>Mayong Mistmoore (Blood, Vampirism.  Surrendered Divine Power of his own will, or so he claims)</p><p>Ulkorruuk (Betrayal, Unknown Status)</p><p>Grandmaster Wu the Transendant (Serenity, Ascended by Quellious)</p><p>Notes:  The Destinction between "Minor" and "Major" is a funtion of worshipers, not power.  Druzzil Ro has few worshipers, but is equal to, or more powerful than, the Elemental Gods.  Zebuxoruk is similarly Powerful.  As far as where some of these came from...</p><p>The Nameless birthed the Elemental Gods, along with (I assume) the "Elder" Major Gods like Cazic, Innoruuk, etc.  He also created Rhoen Theer.</p><p>Fennin Ro created Solusek Ro.</p><p>Tarew Marr gave form to Valor and Love (Mithaniel and Erollisi).</p><p>Duzzil Ro created Ayonae Ro.</p><p>Cazic created Terris and Morrel.</p><p>Tunare is mentioned (I think) in a quest has having created Anashti (which makes sense, Tunare created all natural life on Norrath, the powers of the Prime Healer would probably trace back to her as an origin, just like the power of nightmares finds its root in Fear.  This makes her a likely catidate for having ascended Rodcet.)</p><p>Rallos Created Tallon and Vallon, he also lifted Sullon to God status (It's mentioned in an EQ1 quest, which is after timesplit and possibly not Canon, that she was a mortal who challenged Rallos and impressed him)</p><p>Innoruuk created Sayrn</p><p>Other deities have no "origin" expressly stated (Druzzil for example, or Zebuxoruk) so it's unknown if they were created by another god, ascended of their own power, or have always existed in some form.</p><p>Looking at this list, the only real gods still missing are Prexus and Veeshan (who may, hopefully, play a part in the Kerafyrm storyline).  Also apparent: the Apotheosis of Mortals is exceedingly rare, especially unassisted apotheosis, which seems limited to Mayong and MAYBE Zebuxoruk.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>I don't think that for EQ2 canon Mayong ever ascended to godhood.  That happened (I believe) in Depths of Darkhollow, after the Planes of Power, therefore after the timeline split . . . it never happened in the EQ2 universe.</p><p>I'm not entirely sure, but I think Zeb becoming a god also is not canon in EQ2.  That, I think, happened when we finally entered the Plane of Time, again, after the timeline split.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>It should be noted that Erollisi is also the Goddess of the Hunt, but this is just a minor detail.</p><p>Saryrn has assumedly been absorbed into Innoruuk for his own survival.</p><p>Ulkoruuk and Anashti Sul were introduced in EQ2, and Ulkoruuk is a demi-goddess ascended by Innoruuk as part of his grand scheme to kill Mithanial Marr (which resulted in Erollisi taking the fall in his place.)</p><p>Lanys T'Vyl was the Demi-Goddess of Strife, born from Innoruuk's own loins (giggity). However, her encounters while living on Norrath ended up [Removed for Content] him off something fierce. Her actions included but were not limited to: Betraying Neriak and trying to steal the Lifeguide staff from Tunare's Champion, Firiona Vie, in order to use it to DESTROY ALL LIFE ON NORRATH. When her mortal body was killed by Neriak's army, Innoruuk came down to Neriak itself to destroy her soul directly. She *WAS* reborn, post-time split in EQlive, but that doesn't apply to this game.</p><p>Varig Ro is another member the Ro family. The God of the Forge was created by Solusek Ro, but I don't know if it's stated that he's a Lesser or a Demi.</p><p>Tholuxe Paells is the Demi-God of Lust, but almost nothing is known about him other than he acts more on the evil side of things.</p><p>Xev Bristlebane is the Lesser God of Money and Gambling</p><p>Torvillonus (I can't remember how his name is spelled) is the lesser god of Greed (Kinda goes hand in hand with Xev, but greed comes in all form.) Also created by Bristlebane.</p><p>Bolgin Serillis is Brell's brother, but he's not in command of any particular sphere of influence. He did have a hand in creating the Goblins though.</p><p>Rolfron Zek is the Demi-God of the Forlorn. Rallos Zek noticed (took pity on?) one particular Kobold and added him to his ranks.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I don't think that for EQ2 canon Mayong ever ascended to godhood.  That happened (I believe) in Depths of Darkhollow, after the Planes of Power, therefore after the timeline split . . . it never happened in the EQ2 universe.</p><p>I'm not entirely sure, but I think Zeb becoming a god also is not canon in EQ2.  That, I think, happened when we finally entered the Plane of Time, again, after the timeline split.</p></blockquote><p>We find out through the League of Freethinker's questline in Loping Plains that Mistmoore did indeed acheive godhood over the past 500 years. The exact cause is never revealed, and it was said that he spent most of those 500 years living in the Plane of Hate before he chose to give up Godhood. His life as an eternal living vampire was much more fulfilling with less responsibility.</p><p>Zeb's backstory is sufficiently described in EQlive. He is known as the Un-god, The Forsaken. It said in his description that there may have been a civilization somewhere that worshiped him, but had been lost to time. We would end up finding that civlization on the island of Mara. The Tanaanites, and the city built in Plane of Knowledge is New Tanaan.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>Druzzil was created by Soluesk, who apparenlty may also be the creator of Varig Ro.</p><p>Inny and Rallos are responsible for many sub deities...Rallos has Vallon, Tallon, Sullon, Rolfron, Gorynn...and Inny had Lanys, Ulloruuk, Sarymn. (Ullorruuk is probably the 'daughter' responsible for E. Marr's death, Lanys is supposedly dead/reabsorbed by Inny)</p><p>Cazic and Quellious supposedly to end a dispute over who rules dreams, combined thier essence to make Morrell and Terris. Terris took after Cazic, and Morrell after Quellious.</p><p>there's a note in the castle of mayong that talk about his ascent to godhood, and his voluntary relinquishing of that mantle.</p><p>Zeb is canon as well, his washing up on the shores of Mara without his memory was supposed to be a result of teh 'fabric' of time/reality splitting eq1 and eq2...his reduction from god to mortal at various times is documented well before the spilt as well.</p><p>Rohen Theer's weakness to mortals is more just that he cannot instantly end mortal lives like he can the dieties. he's still more then a match for mortal forces...in fact his defeat requires the most powerful mortal being to walk norrath, and an 'army' of mortals wielding the most powerful weapons/those weapons powers in existance against him. It's like saying someone's weakness was being hit with a missle when to hurt them you had to launch every nuclear weapon you had against them. anything less would have been shrugged off.</p><p>Though I don't recal any quest that talks about Tunare potentially being the 'mother' to Anashti. I know that there's the referance that the first worshippers of her during the Elder Age were the elves of the Silent City/Aket Akhen....but I never saw mention that Tunare created her.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Though I don't recal any quest that talks about Tunare potentially being the 'mother' to Anashti. I know that there's the referance that the first worshippers of her during the Elder Age were the elves of the Silent City/Aket Akhen....but I never saw mention that Tunare created her.</p></blockquote><p>Me either.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>Lanys is in EQ2, mentioned during the SK epic..Sedition is supposedly the old EQ1 Malevolence, re configured by Lanys to work so that the SK wielding it should have fed power to her so she would keep her sphere of influence/gain power to topple her father.</p><p>at the end of the epic line though you betray her minions and set the blade to feed yourself that power. so she was/is maybe still in/part of Plane of Hate, but if she is she's just a minion, not a demi-goddess.</p>

[Meirril]

<p>From what I understand the Nameless created the Elemental dieities. The Elementals created the Gods of Influence to see over certain aspects which wern't exactly elemental in nature. The Gods of Influence both created more Gods of Influence and also lesser gods and demi-gods.</p><p>Of all the gods, there are a few that were not created. Veeshan, goddess of sky is unique in that she comes from somewhere else and is a goddess in her own right. Nobody raised her to diety status. She just was the Goddess of Sky, and Mother of all Dragons. Then she left and the Gods of Influence were created to deal with her children. Pre-Veeshan, only the Elemental Dieties existed. Not sure where Theer fits into the cosmology.</p><p>Zebuxoruk is also unique in that he was born a mortal and became a god of his own will. No other divine agency gave him assistance in raising himself to diety status. He didn't have (or should I say need?) a body of worshipers. He just discovered how to do it and it worked. How that was done is never discussed. Actually, what is discussed is how much the other gods don't want that knowledge passed around.</p><p>Mayong may have discovered Zebuxoruk's method of attaining diety status. More likely though is that he worked a deal with Innorrukk who made him a demi-god. Again, it isn't really discussed in EQ2 and we're not even sure if this isn't Mayong lying to us once again.</p><p>There are also a few major spirits. While they arn't dieties, they are powerful entities that have influence over certain aspects and do seem to draw power from worshipers. Mostly these are nature-spirits that are represented by animals but there exists at least one spirit called Sylokk that was "created" by Veniril Sithar as a sort of over-soul and ancestor worship rolled into one being that Veniril was using in an attempt to make himself a diety and could draw power from his creation. Other such beings may exist almost anywhere.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>actually Syllok is that huge stone in Venril's throneroom. in the greenmist quest Cazic tells you the stone itself is kinda like a huge phylacery, trapped souls inside it, that Venril draws on...not a deity or even a singular spirit.</p><p>now if you use the Depths of Darkhollow events as a 'blueprint' Mayong has basically kept himself hidden, and secret, giving us hints of his power and his actions and through that drawing upon a type of 'hero worship'. combined with other magical powers/runes/spells at his disposal, he used that same worship, even in defeat in the raid encounter, to boost himself up to godhood.</p><p>However for EQ2, the mentioning of his involvement in the Plane of Hate, I think that Mayong's attempt this time may have been taking out/using the rending's turmoil against a demigod of Innoruuk, rather then Ayonae Ro like in EQ live. Mayong and Innoruuk are apparently not on god terms, so I don't see Inny making a pact to get MAyong as a demi-god. (this being based on the 'curse' in the rooms of evernight abbey.</p>

[shadowscale]

<p>just to toss this in here but <span >Zebuxoruk dident accend on his own, he was the student of </span><span >Druzzil Ro.</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>He was?</p>

[Garnaf]

<p>Druzzil Ro speaks with no movement of her mouth. Her thoughts flow through you, calming you as you begin to comprehend what she is trying to communicate to you. Druzzil Ro speaks to your mind, '<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Zebuxoruk, my student</span> I cannot allow this to happen. If you were to escape from another prison the will and power of the gods will have been compromised.' Zebuxoruk says, 'Druzzil, I have missed you. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Wasn't it you that taught me in your own realm</span> to seek knowledge and share it in all forms?' Druzzil Ro speaks to your mind, 'That I did, but I also taught you not to share your wealth of knowledge if it would affect the fate of others. I cannot allow this to happen. I must set things back to how they were before you and these mortals arrived here, I believe that you cannot understand this and I am sorry.'</p><p>Taken from the Ending of the Plane of Time, after Quarm's Defeat.  Yes, he was.  Either before he became a deity, or after, it really doesn't much matter I suppose.</p>

[Jaranna]

<p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"><div><p>I don't have a necromancer, and my highest level character is now 81, so I haven't done the necro epic quest.  But it would seem to me that, as mentioned in a past thread, that the remains of Vazaelle would be those of her mortal body, before her apotheosis.  Are we certain that the goddess is dead?  It's certainly possible that Cazic-Thule took his power back, but since Terris and Morell seem to be just fine,  I don't see why Vazaelle wouldn't be.</p><p>Or is there somee lore in the necromancer quest line that actually states that the goddess is no more?</p></div></span></p>

[Foolsfolly]

<p>@OP: That is really the driving question behind all of EQ2. The most basic premise of EQ2 is that Zebuxoruk discovered the secrets of the gods, including the essential method by which mortals could ascend and utilize the godly powers. Yes this is something other mortals have discovered before and after Zeb. Unlike the others however, Zeb decided that this knowledge needed to be shared with all mortals. His attempts to share that knowledge and the surrounding events are what spawned the EQ2 universe, and Zeb's current status is unknown. But you can be sure that all this EQ2 lore is slowly leading up to an eventual confrontation involving Zeb and his secrets. Until then, all we can do is wait and speculate.</p>

[shadowscale]

<p><cite>Jaranna wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><div><p>I don't have a necromancer, and my highest level character is now 81, so I haven't done the necro epic quest.  But it would seem to me that, as mentioned in a past thread, that the remains of Vazaelle would be those of her mortal body, before her apotheosis.  Are we certain that the goddess is dead?  It's certainly possible that Cazic-Thule took his power back, but since Terris and Morell seem to be just fine,  I don't see why Vazaelle wouldn't be.</p><p>Or is there somee lore in the necromancer quest line that actually states that the goddess is no more?</p></div></span></p></blockquote><p>she is gone, the mythical is literaly all that is left of her body and spirt. she was mostly absorb by cazic to speed his return to norrath.</p><p>the fabled is her mortal remaines from before she was accended, but for the mythical you gather whats left of her soul after cazic absorbed what he could and striped her of deity status, so it returned to norrath, drawn to the remanes we had collected. so necromancers actuay get to dominate the soul of a fallen god, interesting really.</p><p>and to Foolsfolly, zeb is in game now, on the isle of mara. althogh he seems to have lost much of his powers by his own choice.</p>

[Garnaf]

<p>Yup yup, Zhen Mei IS Zebuxoruk, he flatly TELLS you that after you kill Chel'Drak (which unlocked his memories, and his powers.  Up until then, he was still Zebuxoruk, just with no power outside immortality and no memory).</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>just to toss this in here but <span>Zebuxoruk dident accend on his own, he was the student of </span><span>Druzzil Ro.</span></p></blockquote><p>You know this would make Zebuxoruk's entire story non-special and he'd just be another Demi-god and there would be absolutely NO reason for him to be imprisoned in the Plane of Time by all the other gods, right?</p>

[Garnaf]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>just to toss this in here but <span>Zebuxoruk dident accend on his own, he was the student of </span><span>Druzzil Ro.</span></p></blockquote><p>You know this would make Zebuxoruk's entire story non-special and he'd just be another Demi-god and there would be absolutely NO reason for him to be imprisoned in the Plane of Time by all the other gods, right?</p></blockquote><p>Except that if he wanted to TELL everyone the process of Apotheosis (wether he used said process or not) that's PLENTY of reason to imprison him (Twice actually, remember that his back story in the PoP manual mentions imprisonment in the Void prior to the game's begining, and Druzzil comments that if he escapes from "another prison" that the will of the gods will become meaningless.)  He's still special, and honestly how many mortals learn magic from the source of all magic?</p><p>Come to think of it, that just makes him Norrath's answer to Elminster from Forgetten Realms D&D really.  So yea, slightly less special, but remember that wanting to share godhood with everyone (period, no screening process) is a pretty big No-no to, well, ALL THE OTHER GODS.  Infact in Seeds of Destruction (Non-Canon, yes yes) Zebuxoruk HIMSELF says that in hindsight it would probably have been a bad idea, because mortals lack the ability to clearly define and stick to their limits, overcoming them all the time; something the gods CANNOT do.</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It should be noted that Erollisi is also the Goddess of the Hunt, but this is just a minor detail.</p><p>Saryrn has assumedly been absorbed into Innoruuk for his own survival.<span style="color: #ff00ff;"></span></p><p>Ulkoruuk and Anashti Sul were introduced in EQ2, and Ulkoruuk is a demi-goddess ascended by Innoruuk as part of his grand scheme to kill Mithanial Marr (which resulted in Erollisi taking the fall in his place.)</p><p>Lanys T'Vyl was the Demi-Goddess of Strife, born from Innoruuk's own loins (giggity). However, her encounters while living on Norrath ended up [Removed for Content] him off something fierce. Her actions included but were not limited to: Betraying Neriak and trying to steal the Lifeguide staff from Tunare's Champion, Firiona Vie, in order to use it to DESTROY ALL LIFE ON NORRATH. When her mortal body was killed by Neriak's army, Innoruuk came down to Neriak itself to destroy her soul directly. She *WAS* reborn, post-time split in EQlive, but that doesn't apply to this game.</p><p>Varig Ro is another member the Ro family. The God of the Forge was created by Solusek Ro, but I don't know if it's stated that he's a Lesser or a Demi. <span style="color: #ff00ff;">Most likely a lesser like Ayonae</span></p><p>Tholuxe Paells is the Demi-God of Lust, but almost nothing is known about him other than he acts more on the evil side of things. <span style="color: #ff00ff;">If I'm not mistaken, Tholuxe has had some influence from Inny; but don't quote me.</span></p><p>Xev Bristlebane is the Lesser God of Money and Gambling <span style="color: #ff00ff;">Moreover Known as the God of Luck.</span></p><p>Torvillonus (I can't remember how his name is spelled) is the lesser god of Greed (Kinda goes hand in hand with Xev, but greed comes in all form.) Also created by Bristlebane.<span style="color: #ff00ff;"> Torvonillous</span></p><p>Bolgin Serillis is Brell's brother, but he's not in command of any particular sphere of influence. He did have a hand in creating the Goblins though. <span style="color: #ff00ff;">Wasn't there another Serillis, beside them two?</span></p><p>Rolfron Zek is the Demi-God of the Forlorn. Rallos Zek noticed (took pity on?) one particular Kobold and added him to his ranks. <span style="color: #ff00ff;">I thought Rolfron <em>was</em> a Kobold himself...</span></p></blockquote>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Dranikos@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Other deities have no "origin" expressly stated (Druzzil for example, or Zebuxoruk) so it's unknown if they were created by another god, ascended of their own power, or have always existed in some form.</p></blockquote><p>Druzzil was created By Solusek</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>While fighting him, we find out that he has actually killed at least 4 gods in the past. We learn thier names, but we don't know who they were or what sphere of influence they reigned over.</blockquote><p>Do you have a list of their names?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>I don't. Someone mentioned them over the lore channel a month back. There is one thing about all 4 names though: They are exceptionally asian in concept. All 4 names follow Chinese and Japanese naming conventions, almost as if the Hua Mein themselves named the gods.</p><p><cite>Euri@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Torvillonus (I can't remember how his name is spelled) is the lesser god of Greed (Kinda goes hand in hand with Xev, but greed comes in all form.) Also created by Bristlebane.<span style="color: #ff00ff;"> Torvonillous</span></p><p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Thanks</span></p> <p>Bolgin Serillis is Brell's brother, but he's not in command of any particular sphere of influence. He did have a hand in creating the Goblins though. <span style="color: #ff00ff;">Wasn't there another Serillis, beside them two?</span></p> <p><span style="color: #3366ff;">No, just them for what we know of.</span></p> <p>Rolfron Zek is the Demi-God of the Forlorn. Rallos Zek noticed (took pity on?) one particular Kobold and added him to his ranks. <span style="color: #ff00ff;">I thought Rolfron <em>was</em> a Kobold himself...</span></p> <p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Exactly... </span></p></blockquote>

[Jaale]

Can we get this stickied? Very very helpful! I also want to know who are the four killed by Theer.