View Full Version : Name that place? the Planet of __________?
raxerex
04-08-2010, 03:34 PM
<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >Name that place? the Planet of __________?</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >You know the place we all play in? what's it called? </span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >Norrath? yup thats it, is it a planet. or is it like Asia, North America, Europe? a Continent / location on the Planet?</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >I ask, cuz I was standing in The Sundered Frontier, and a message popped up, that said something like</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >"All the earth trembled as Toxxilia takes to the air" earth?</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >As long as Toxxilia is on earth, i feel pretty safe on Norrath. i think.. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >Just Wondering.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >R-</span></span></div>
Maergoth
04-08-2010, 03:47 PM
<p>Earth is used as a simple term for ground, dirt, rock, etc. We have a plane of earth, earthen constructs, etc.. that doesn't mean they aren't from Norrath.</p><p>If you want to get technical, our planet is OFFICIALLY named "Terra". We just call it earth because that's what it's made of.</p>
Rainmare
04-08-2010, 03:49 PM
<p>Norrath is a planet. Antonica/Kunark/Faydwer/Velious are continents on that planet.</p>
Ambrin
04-08-2010, 03:56 PM
<p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Earth is used as a simple term for ground, dirt, rock, etc. We have a plane of earth, earthen constructs, etc.. that doesn't mean they aren't from Norrath.</p><p>If you want to get technical, our planet is OFFICIALLY named "Terra". We just call it earth because that's what it's made of.</p></blockquote><p>Terra is Latin for Earth.</p><p>In regards to the OP, "earth" is just being used a descriptor for the ground. If you wanted to get technical though, Odus is actually in Ultera and is not even a part of Norrath any more. In fact, Odus could probably be defined as an asteroid in its current state.</p>
Cusashorn
04-08-2010, 04:01 PM
<p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Earth is used as a simple term for ground, dirt, rock, etc. We have a plane of earth, earthen constructs, etc.. that doesn't mean they aren't from Norrath.</p><p>If you want to get technical, our planet is OFFICIALLY named "Terra". We just call it earth because that's what it's made of.</p></blockquote><p>The sun is actually named Sol, and the moon is actually named Luna, for that matter. Terra is the reason why Humans are often called "Terrans" in science fiction instead of "Earthlings".</p><p>There have been a few instances in this game where references to "earth" as another term for dirt or soil has been given a Norrathian reflection. Instead of "The earth around us is being corrupted by evil", it would be "The norrath around us is being corrupted by evil."</p>
Meirril
04-09-2010, 02:31 AM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Earth is used as a simple term for ground, dirt, rock, etc. We have a plane of earth, earthen constructs, etc.. that doesn't mean they aren't from Norrath.</p><p>If you want to get technical, our planet is OFFICIALLY named "Terra". We just call it earth because that's what it's made of.</p></blockquote><p>The sun is actually named Sol, and the moon is actually named Luna, for that matter. Terra is the reason why Humans are often called "Terrans" in science fiction instead of "Earthlings".</p><p>There have been a few instances in this game where references to "earth" as another term for dirt or soil has been given a Norrathian reflection. Instead of "The earth around us is being corrupted by evil", it would be "The norrath around us is being corrupted by evil."</p></blockquote><p>Umm...Sol means sun. Luna is another refrence to the moon, one old enough that nobody knew about other moons. Terra Firma refers to dirt, aka earth. Terra is a convient dropping of the firma portion of the dirt refrence used as a modern convention of the english language and widely adopted in other languages.</p><p>Technically, our planet really hasn't been properly named because nobody exists with enough authority to give the planet a name. The only way our planet has a name is by conventional useage. The Earth is the most popularized name mainly because it is the the leist number of people find objectionable.</p><p>It is easy to believe that any developing society would have a similar linguistic and cultural challenge in naming their homeworld. In their own language, the name of their planet my very well be dirt, planet, place, or even "where we stand". I'd expect planets that we travel to will get proper names, and several will choose new names over time for one reason or another. The Earth will probably never be renamed (by humans).</p><p>BTW: who named Norrath? The Nameless (which would be incredibly ironic)? Or maybe one of the elemental dieties? Veeshan? Who? Smed the Omnipotent?</p>
Iskandar
04-09-2010, 03:49 AM
<p>Well, according to the International Astronomical Union, the official name of Earth is.. well.. Earth <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Resolution B5 defines the standard definitions of planet, asteroid, etc, and notes the names of each of the eight (/sigh) official planets in the system. Yeah, I miss Pluto. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /> The IAU is the official scientific naming authority for celestial bodies and the various named features of each, and their decisions are determined by international committies of this world's top astronomers. Here's a link to the resolution: <a href="http://www.iau.org/static/resolutions/Resolution_GA26-5-6.pdf">http://www.iau.org/static/resolutio...on_GA26-5-6.pdf</a></p><p>There's also some general naming information for the planets in our system available on the USGS site: <a href="http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html">http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html</a></p><p>hmmm... now I'm curious too... why is Norrath called "Norrath?" Who (or what) named it and why?</p>
Rezikai
04-09-2010, 04:37 AM
<p><cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, according to the International Astronomical Union, the official name of Earth is.. well.. Earth <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Resolution B5 defines the standard definitions of planet, asteroid, etc, and notes the names of each of the eight (/sigh) official planets in the system. Yeah, I miss Pluto. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /> The IAU is the official scientific naming authority for celestial bodies and the various named features of each, and their decisions are determined by international committies of this world's top astronomers. Here's a link to the resolution: <a href="http://www.iau.org/static/resolutions/Resolution_GA26-5-6.pdf">http://www.iau.org/static/resolutio...on_GA26-5-6.pdf</a></p><p>There's also some general naming information for the planets in our system available on the USGS site: <a href="http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html">http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html</a></p><p>hmmm... now I'm curious too... why is Norrath called "Norrath?" Who (or what) named it and why?</p></blockquote><p>one of the "r's" is actually an "e" ..do that 1st then resort Norrath's letters and you'll find out.</p>
Cusashorn
04-09-2010, 04:43 AM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Earth is used as a simple term for ground, dirt, rock, etc. We have a plane of earth, earthen constructs, etc.. that doesn't mean they aren't from Norrath.</p><p>If you want to get technical, our planet is OFFICIALLY named "Terra". We just call it earth because that's what it's made of.</p></blockquote><p>The sun is actually named Sol, and the moon is actually named Luna, for that matter. Terra is the reason why Humans are often called "Terrans" in science fiction instead of "Earthlings".</p><p>There have been a few instances in this game where references to "earth" as another term for dirt or soil has been given a Norrathian reflection. Instead of "The earth around us is being corrupted by evil", it would be "The norrath around us is being corrupted by evil."</p></blockquote><p>Umm...Sol means sun. Luna is another refrence to the moon, one old enough that nobody knew about other moons. Terra Firma refers to dirt, aka earth. Terra is a convient dropping of the firma portion of the dirt refrence used as a modern convention of the english language and widely adopted in other languages.</p><p><span style="color: #3366ff;">I know that, but I was just saying what they're called...</span></p><p>Technically, our planet really hasn't been properly named because nobody exists with enough authority to give the planet a name. The only way our planet has a name is by conventional useage. The Earth is the most popularized name mainly because it is the the leist number of people find objectionable.</p><p><span style="color: #3366ff;">I think the earth was called Gaia by some of the earliest civilizations before Latin was invented.</span></p><p>It is easy to believe that any developing society would have a similar linguistic and cultural challenge in naming their homeworld. In their own language, the name of their planet my very well be dirt, planet, place, or even "where we stand". I'd expect planets that we travel to will get proper names, and several will choose new names over time for one reason or another. The Earth will probably never be renamed (by humans).</p><p>BTW: who named Norrath? The Nameless (which would be incredibly ironic)? Or maybe one of the elemental dieties? Veeshan? Who? Smed the Omnipotent?</p><p><span style="color: #3366ff;">Now THAT is a good question. Why do the people of Norrath call it Norrath? Someone had to have come up with the name and, much like Earth, made other societies just accept that it's the best name to use.</span></p></blockquote>
KniteShayd
04-09-2010, 11:32 PM
<p><cite>Rezikai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, according to the International Astronomical Union, the official name of Earth is.. well.. Earth <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Resolution B5 defines the standard definitions of planet, asteroid, etc, and notes the names of each of the eight (/sigh) official planets in the system. Yeah, I miss Pluto. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /> The IAU is the official scientific naming authority for celestial bodies and the various named features of each, and their decisions are determined by international committies of this world's top astronomers. Here's a link to the resolution: <a href="http://www.iau.org/static/resolutions/Resolution_GA26-5-6.pdf">http://www.iau.org/static/resolutio...on_GA26-5-6.pdf</a></p><p>There's also some general naming information for the planets in our system available on the USGS site: <a href="http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html">http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html</a></p><p>hmmm... now I'm curious too... why is Norrath called "Norrath?" Who (or what) named it and why?</p></blockquote><p>one of the "r's" is actually an "e" ..do that 1st then resort Norrath's letters and you'll find out.</p></blockquote><p>On Earth = Noerath</p>
betatester7
04-10-2010, 03:23 PM
<p>In spanish we say "Tierra" for Earth (english) and Luna for (moon)</p><p><img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
PeterJohn
04-10-2010, 03:46 PM
<p><cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well, according to the International Astronomical Union, the official name of Earth is.. well.. Earth <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> Resolution B5 defines the standard definitions of planet, asteroid, etc, and notes the names of each of the eight (/sigh) official planets in the system. Yeah, I miss Pluto. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /> The IAU is the official scientific naming authority for celestial bodies and the various named features of each, and their decisions are determined by international committies of this world's top astronomers. Here's a link to the resolution: <a href="http://www.iau.org/static/resolutions/Resolution_GA26-5-6.pdf">http://www.iau.org/static/resolutio...on_GA26-5-6.pdf</a></p><p>There's also some general naming information for the planets in our system available on the USGS site: <a href="http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html">http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/append7.html</a></p><p>hmmm... now I'm curious too... why is Norrath called "Norrath?" Who (or what) named it and why?</p></blockquote><p>This sounds pretty definitive. Thanks I was just going to google to find out <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Meirril
04-10-2010, 09:12 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #3366ff;">I think the earth was called Gaia by some of the earliest civilizations before Latin was invented.</span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Gaia is a refrence by early celtic religions to an earth spirit. It isn't the land itself per se but the land's soul. This also lead to the notion that european nobles had an obligation to the land. Reminents of a prior religious belief that the land had a spirit that needed to be appeased and cared for to create prosperity in both the land itself and the people that lived off of its bounty.</p>
Greyquill
04-14-2010, 03:02 AM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #3366ff;">I think the earth was called Gaia by some of the earliest civilizations before Latin was invented.</span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Gaia is a refrence by early celtic religions to an earth spirit. It isn't the land itself per se but the land's soul. This also lead to the notion that european nobles had an obligation to the land. Reminents of a prior religious belief that the land had a spirit that needed to be appeased and cared for to create prosperity in both the land itself and the people that lived off of its bounty.</p></blockquote><p>Gaia (Gaea) is Greek for "land", so it actually has quite a bit to do with the land itself, literally, and nothing to do with the celts. Her counterpart in Rome was Terra Mater (Earth Mother) or Tellus to keep her distinct from Ceres, a goddess of agriculture. In Greek mythology you had Gaea and Ouranos, Earth and Sky, as the progenitors of all life divine and mortal. This holy union is reflected in the cosmologies and pantheons of many ancient peoples and cultures. The idea of "the Gaia" as a soul of the planet itself is a new age idea spawned in the mid-70's and brought into common conscience through things like "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" where the concept was heavy-handedly beaten to death. Still, how did Norrath get it's name is an interesting question. Most cultures will deify their planet. Yet we don't call it Tunare. The elemental rulers of the Plane of Earth are the Rathe council, are they not? Maybe, and this is a stretch since it implies an extremely deep level of forthought, but the name of the planet has something to do with the etymology of thier name. Rath(e)/Nor(Rath)(e)... I can kind of see it. I'm probably overthinking this. Still, Gaea... yeah. Not celtic.</p>
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