Why no on the INT Line?

[Bahane]

<p>I've read all the posts that say don't waste points in the INT AA line after the change introduced with the latest expansion. </p><p>I know INT as as Stat is completely worthless to Shadowknights, but why no AA points in the INT Line.  The second skill in the INT line increases your magic damage by a percentage of your STR, so wouldn't it be benificial to at least go 4-10 in INT, or am I missing something else?</p>

[Levatino]

<p>that bubble uses a percentage of your strength as extra damage, you can then better use it on STA or AGI line. They give a better return then the INT line</p>

[DwarvesR]

<p>So if you have a 1200 STR and that AA in the int line, you essentially got a +120 ability mod.  That's not that big a deal, and especially not for a cost of 14 AA's.</p><p>INT line is now dead to us.</p>

[Darkonx]

<p><cite>Jonna@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>INT line is now dead to us.</p></blockquote><p>INT line is only useless for casuals.</p>

[DwarvesR]

<p>Your referring to the marginally useful endline ability?  It's not worth 24 points for the 500-ish dps it normally adds to a parse.  Unless you don't use STA line at all due to having enough crit on your gear, then it's worthwhile since you won't need the points anywhere else.</p><p>But until you've got that gear popping crit over 100 in your 80's, you don't want INT at all, and in most non-raiding situations it's not going to help all that much.</p>

[Darkonx]

<p><cite>Jonna@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Your referring to the marginally useful endline ability?  It's not worth 24 points for the 500-ish dps it normally adds to a parse.  Unless you don't use STA line at all due to having enough crit on your gear, then it's worthwhile since you won't need the points anywhere else.</p><p>But until you've got that gear popping crit over 100 in your 80's, you don't want INT at all, and in most non-raiding situations it's not going to help all that much.</p></blockquote><p>I have ~102+ crit with a standard. On raids the INT endline is extremely useful.</p>

[Levatino]

<p><cite>Darkonx wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jonna@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Your referring to the marginally useful endline ability?  It's not worth 24 points for the 500-ish dps it normally adds to a parse.  Unless you don't use STA line at all due to having enough crit on your gear, then it's worthwhile since you won't need the points anywhere else.</p><p>But until you've got that gear popping crit over 100 in your 80's, you don't want INT at all, and in most non-raiding situations it's not going to help all that much.</p></blockquote><p>I have ~102+ crit with a standard. On raids the INT endline is extremely useful.</p></blockquote><p>it looks like a good line for raiding indeed. But for soloplay it isn't as usefull. So if you solo and raid use an aa mirror</p>

[Bahane]

<p>Go it.  So stick to the recommended specs of STR, STA and AGI until/unless I start raiding, then do INT to the endline.</p><p>Thanks for the info guys.</p>

[Darkonx]

<p><cite>Bahane@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Go it.  So stick to the recommended specs of STR, STA and AGI until/unless I start raiding, then do INT to the endline.</p><p>Thanks for the info guys.</p></blockquote><p>I can solo about 30-35 yellow ^^^ in the bottom of the hole right now. At the same time. Trample from AGI is nice, but, not really a game breaker. I don't see much point in STA at all.</p>

[Diaboloco]

<p>From a pvp perspective is getting Legionaire's Conviction worth it?  It looks pretty nice to me, but I haven't actually seen it in action.</p>

[Darkonx]

<p><cite>Diaboloco wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>From a pvp perspective is getting Legionaire's Conviction worth it?  It looks pretty nice to me, but I haven't actually seen it in action.</p></blockquote><p>Yes.</p>

[Fluffiee]

<p><cite>Darkonx wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jonna@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Your referring to the marginally useful endline ability?  It's not worth 24 points for the 500-ish dps it normally adds to a parse.  Unless you don't use STA line at all due to having enough crit on your gear, then it's worthwhile since you won't need the points anywhere else.</p><p>But until you've got that gear popping crit over 100 in your 80's, you don't want INT at all, and in most non-raiding situations it's not going to help all that much.</p></blockquote><p>I have ~102+ crit with a standard. On raids the INT endline is extremely useful.</p><p>The heal crit or the reflect int endline?</p></blockquote>

[Alazarz]

<p>STR, AGI, WIS = FTW   </p><p>STR ~ Obviously the Double attack, Haste and avenging invigoration are great.</p><p>AGI ~ I like trample and higherground + lance is useful in pvp to snare people and decent aoe damage.</p><p>WIS ~ the 8% potency in the wisdom line is nice + immunity to fear.. also the regenerating ward is nice.</p><p>STR AGI WIS - is a great spec for all around play including raids, small instances and pvp.</p><p>I simply put only 1 point into hammer ground and leave the rest of the STA line alone.. DA is worthless imo. If your poping DA then 9 times outta 10 it means things arent going to great and your just gonna live (mabey) x amount of seconds longer.. Mabey use STA for progression raiding.. but even then... meh</p><p>The int line is great for the extra 2k resists and reflect is actually useful in pve now.. meh..</p><p>Thats my 2 cents</p><p>regards,</p><p>Alazarz</p>

[Tyrl]

<p><cite>Alazarz@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>STR, AGI, WIS = FTW   </p><p>STR ~ Obviously the Double attack, Haste and avenging invigoration are great.</p><p>AGI ~ I like trample and higherground + lance is useful in pvp to snare people and decent aoe damage.</p><p>WIS ~ the 8% potency in the wisdom line is nice + immunity to fear.. also the regenerating ward is nice.</p><p>STR AGI WIS - is a great spec for all around play including raids, small instances and pvp.</p><p>I simply put only 1 point into hammer ground and leave the rest of the STA line alone.. DA is worthless imo. If your poping DA then 9 times outta 10 it means things arent going to great and your just gonna live (mabey) x amount of seconds longer.. Mabey use STA for progression raiding.. but even then... meh</p><p>The int line is great for the extra 2k resists and reflect is actually useful in pve now.. meh..</p><p>Thats my 2 cents</p><p>regards,</p><p>Alazarz</p></blockquote><p>I would have to disagree about the DA.</p><p>In solo or pvp DA allows your lifetaps to catch up and when used prior to the full string of SK life taps it can be enough to take the SK back close to full HP.</p><p>The entire point of useing DA is to pull you through a tuff point in a fight or a spike in damage. Alot of times those 10 sec are all it takes for large heals to come off their CD and your out of danger.</p>

[Darkonx]

<p>AGI is largely useless on raids. It's great for soloing/grouping, but it's useless on raids.</p>

[Sprin]

<p><cite>Tyrl@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Alazarz@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>STR, AGI, WIS = FTW   </p><p>STR ~ Obviously the Double attack, Haste and avenging invigoration are great.</p><p>AGI ~ I like trample and higherground + lance is useful in pvp to snare people and decent aoe damage.</p><p>WIS ~ the 8% potency in the wisdom line is nice + immunity to fear.. also the regenerating ward is nice.</p><p>STR AGI WIS - is a great spec for all around play including raids, small instances and pvp.</p><p>I simply put only 1 point into hammer ground and leave the rest of the STA line alone.. DA is worthless imo. If your poping DA then 9 times outta 10 it means things arent going to great and your just gonna live (mabey) x amount of seconds longer.. Mabey use STA for progression raiding.. but even then... meh</p><p>The int line is great for the extra 2k resists and reflect is actually useful in pve now.. meh..</p><p>Thats my 2 cents</p><p>regards,</p><p>Alazarz</p></blockquote><p>I would have to disagree about the DA.</p><p>In solo or pvp DA allows your lifetaps to catch up and when used prior to the full string of SK life taps it can be enough to take the SK back close to full HP.</p><p>The entire point of useing DA is to pull you through a tuff point in a fight or a spike in damage. Alot of times those 10 sec are all it takes for large heals to come off their CD and your out of danger.</p></blockquote><p>I agree... especially when soloing hard hitting mobs, or in PVP... you pop that off when maybe your healer is mezzed up and your taking spike damage, the 16 seconds allows you to regain your full HP again and allows ample time for whatever control effect is on your healer to be gone and them to have started healing you back up...</p><p>but as mentioned above, for soloing... when taking spike damage, and tap veins isnt up or whatever the case may be.. .. 16 seconds is a long time for your major attacks to come off of cool down... thats usually how i use it... or to just be beast when your fighting in pvp against a x2 of opponents... .. rawr!</p>