Is this AA plan okay?

[Nightshade]

<p>I just made my first assassin. Historically I 'love' the roleplay surrounding this class in games, so I wanted to give it a shot on LDL here. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Anyway, I skimmed this sub-forum briefly and didn't notice anything very helpful on AAs, so I figured I'd try my own build and hope for the best. Mind you I'm not a min/maxer but I do like to not be horrible, you know? lol</p><p>Starting out, very simple setup:</p><p>4-8-10-1 strength</p><p>4-8-10-1 intelligence</p><p>The assassin line seemed less clear cut to me. Excessive Gushing Wound, Repeated Stabbing, and Frontload all looked very interesting.</p><p>I ruled out the Physicality line, but othe than that I'm kind of at a loss.</p><p>Suggestions, tips, or flame-rants appreciated (well, okay, maybe not the last one!). <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>ToxicLullaby wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I just made my first assassin. Historically I 'love' the roleplay surrounding this class in games, so I wanted to give it a shot on LDL here. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Anyway, I skimmed this sub-forum briefly and didn't notice anything very helpful on AAs, so I figured I'd try my own build and hope for the best. Mind you I'm not a min/maxer but I do like to not be horrible, you know? lol</p><p>Starting out, very simple setup:</p><p>4-8-10-1 strength</p><p>4-8-10-1 intelligence</p><p>The assassin line seemed less clear cut to me. Excessive Gushing Wound, Repeated Stabbing, and Frontload all looked very interesting.</p><p>I ruled out the Physicality line, but othe than that I'm kind of at a loss.</p><p>Suggestions, tips, or flame-rants appreciated (well, okay, maybe not the last one!). <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">I would swap the 4-8-10-1 INT for 4-8-10-1 AGI.  The 4-8-10-1 STR is ideal at least untill you get over 100% crit, which I did and switched to 8-10-4-1 STR.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">For the assassin Tree you will want to max out all of the abilities in the "bleeding" line except for the one that increase the trigger chance of death mark and you should then take the excessive bleeding endline.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">I also did 5/5 in all of the poison AAs except for hemotoxin since I prefer using the caustic poisons and also took the frontload endline.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">In tricks I took just enough to take the repeated stabbing endline.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">In physicality I took the 5/5 enhanced defensive stance which is excellent for soloing.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">Here's screenshots of my AAs setup so far:</span> <a href="http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx318/lethe5683/Predator.png" target="_blank">Predator</a> / <a href="http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx318/lethe5683/Assassin.png" target="_blank">Assassin</a> / <a href="http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx318/lethe5683/Shadow.png" target="_blank">Shadows</a></p>

[Nightshade]

<p>Thank you.</p><p>Why 4-8-10-1 AGI in lieu of 4-8-10-1 INT though?</p><p>*Really just wanted the cool 'Nightshade' title* xD</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>ToxicLullaby wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thank you.</p><p>Why 4-8-10-1 AGI in lieu of 4-8-10-1 INT though?</p><p>*Really just wanted the cool 'Nightshade' title* xD</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">Because the INT line is almost completly usless compared to the AGI line:</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">1. Poison Resist Reduction CA - Not bad but you can always just throw one point in here to get it without taking the whole line.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">2. Supposedly a proc that debuffs anyone who hits you but in reality gets resisted almost 90% of the time.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">3. +Poison damage - Not bad but compared to the crit bonus from the AGI tree it's not even close.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">4. "Ok" debuff - It's really not that usefull aside from in PvP and the casting speed endline on the AGI tree is absolutly crucial.</span></p><p><span style="color: #993366;">PS: I agree, the best thing about the INT line is the title. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></span></p>

[Nightshade]

<p>Wonderful, this is just the sort of input I was seeking.</p><p>Greatly appreciated.</p>

[Solarax]

<p>Tox are you high enough in level to get gear that increases your crit.</p><p>the reason i ask is  because as easy as aa are you could be level 10 or 12 and crit bonus and such may also not be worth it.</p><p>the other thing is are you soloing?</p>

[PapaShongo]

<p>I have a 26 Assassin and only 22 AAs, right now im working on the 8-4-10-1 in STR, but after looking through my abilities, it appears the end line of STR only affects 1 CA and after that it will only affect Assassinate once I get it much later.  Does it affect anything else?</p><p>If it doesn't I am going to respec into 4-4-10 STR and then move immediately into AGI for the crit bonus and the end line.</p><p>After this I'm at a loss as to what is best to get first, but this is my plan so far and my reasoning.  I'm leaning to get the poison line in Assassin tree next though.</p><p>Take this with a grain of salt as I have only been playing for about a month.</p>

[Solarax]

<p>then what you want to do is str 4-10-10 and skip end line since 2 aa just for the title is a lot at low level.</p><p>BUT first before crits at low level ( learn to live without them for a few levels ) is go to AGI line and max out point blank shot ( first item) and also put at least 1 point into spinning spear and one in wis line placating strike.</p><p>this will give you some more abilities on hotbars to use and practice with and the stun from Point blank shot will allow you to try new combos of pulling and chaining Ca's.</p><p>there is no point in getting crit bonus until T8 as you have to crit on a regular basis to take advantage and that wont happen without gear in later game.</p><p>thats about all the wisdom i have . i have a lvl 15 assassin as of right now with 50 aa and will get a few more while i wait for halas .  i have a necro i will betray to conj ( already have high end of both but am starting over for fun) and at lvl 15 have nearly 80 aa.</p>

[erk48188]

<p>why max out point blank (1st agi ability)?  does the stun or resistability go down?  or is it just higher damage?</p><p>wouldn't you want to max out fitness for the in- and out- of combat speed increase?</p><p>next..."lowering hate".  how much hate lowering do you have to do to be affective - which is to get someone to no longer target you...both in PVE and PVP? piacating strike lowers it 348.  app level Evade is 115-192.  stalk is 140-238. </p><p>last night was the first night in a group, and i started ripping agro from our gaurdian in encounter fights.</p>

[Solarax]

<p>maxing out point blank means less resists and yes some more damage. makes a huge diference at low levels. it can sometimes hit as high as evicerate at hat low a level.</p><p>remember at low levels you dont have every ability and your playstyle will not be the same as at high levels. you are playing with less of your abilities and some stats that wont be present because gear is [Removed for Content] at low levels.</p><p>last night with about 54AA on a lvl 15 assasssin i solod Seepscale which is a yellow ^^^ . that may not sound like an accomplishment especially if you have done it with a brig but it is huge to do solo with ona Yellow heroic group named at that low a level.</p><p>(also did him later with 15 necro  but thats a much different thing)</p><p>as for hate i cant really say. i wont be grouping a lot with this character until much higher levels. this conversation is specifically for the how i would build the aa for situations where im alone.</p><p>for any of those questions ther are much more knowledgeable people at eq2flames ( just be humble when asking)</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>maxing out point blank means less resists and yes some more damage. makes a huge diference at low levels. it can sometimes hit as high as evicerate at hat low a level.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">It doesn't affect accuracy only the damage (which is irrelevant) and the duration.</span></p>

[Solarax]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>maxing out point blank means less resists and yes some more damage. makes a huge diference at low levels. it can sometimes hit as high as evicerate at hat low a level.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">It doesn't affect accuracy only the damage (which is irrelevant) and the duration.</span></p></blockquote><p>i have a lot of parses that say differently going from 1 point in it to 10 points in it and seeing a dramatic reduction in resists. nothing else in my AA has changed except the addition of of 14 points in the wis line which wont effect resists. so real world tests have shown that it helps.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>maxing out point blank means less resists and yes some more damage. makes a huge diference at low levels. it can sometimes hit as high as evicerate at hat low a level.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">It doesn't affect accuracy only the damage (which is irrelevant) and the duration.</span></p></blockquote><p>i have a lot of parses that say differently going from 1 point in it to 10 points in it and seeing a dramatic reduction in resists. nothing else in my AA has changed except the addition of of 14 points in the wis line which wont effect resists. so real world tests have shown that it helps.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">What do you mean resists?  It's a CA I'm fairly sure not a spell.</span></p>

[Solarax]

<p>every once in a while the mob will not be effected .</p><p>when i had only 1 point in it it was about one in every 8 uses. now its at a constant 1 in every 25 with it maxed out. the mob either gets knocked down or it doesnt.</p><p>i would atribute it to something else except the only thing to change is my aa</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Soulskar@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>every once in a while the mob will not be effected .</p><p>when i had only 1 point in it it was about one in every 8 uses. now its at a constant 1 in every 25 with it maxed out. the mob either gets knocked down or it doesnt.</p><p>i would atribute it to something else except the only thing to change is my aa</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #993366;">That has never happened to me, ever (not including mobs that are immune to stun of course).</span></p>