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ghhtwsfqa
03-22-2010, 09:44 AM
<p>With the ability to save guild/house layouts to a text-file, we apparently gained the ability to manipulate the x, y, z position and orientation of placed items.  For those of us who prefer not to mess with text files and even for those that currently do, having an in game feature that allows the same thing would be really nice.Create a right click option on placed items that brings up a new ui dialog that lists the exact x y z location and orientation of the item and allows the user to move and reorient the item via changing the numbers in text boxes.  Ideally this would ignore any placement limitations that existed when the item was originally placed.  This would open the user to some bad placement possibilities but this would be an advanced feature and already exists for those willing to deal with text files.The collect an item dialog from the /house command would allow decorators to remedy most mistakes  Though listing a unique id for the item in both this list and in the new advanced placement feature would allow users to know exactly what item they might need to fetch should there be many duplicates and they lose one.</p>

Rhak
03-22-2010, 10:39 AM
<p>I agree - I really don't want to dig through text file modification to get items exactly where I want them in my residence, yet I'd love to have the advanced features provided by said files.</p>

Cynith
03-22-2010, 03:50 PM
<p>I would MUCH prefer this to be an in-game option - I tried this ONCE on one item, changed the angle of a single tile - the contents of my entire house shifted positions when I reloaded the file and items flashed in and out of existence as if they were stuck in limbo - I had to redo rooms by hand to fix it.</p><p>I know I'll try again but I'm a little nervous now **shudders**</p>

Iskandar
03-23-2010, 12:23 AM
<p>I could swear we had those controls when the game first came out... I remember having a book that was swivelled around and standing on a corner, and I couldn't figure out how to get it back to sitting flat... maybe I'm thinking of something else, but I coulda swore it was EQ2... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p>

Rhak
03-26-2010, 01:01 AM
<p><cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I could swear we had those controls when the game first came out... I remember having a book that was swivelled around and standing on a corner, and I couldn't figure out how to get it back to sitting flat... maybe I'm thinking of something else, but I coulda swore it was EQ2... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Nope, not that I've seen. Unless it was available at launch and removed quickly thereafter.</p><p>I know you can do it in SWG for starters. Not sure what else offhand.</p>

ke'la
03-26-2010, 03:41 AM
<p>SWG has some very indepth commands for moving "furniture" around in your house. The cool thing about it was that it was relitive to both you and the way you where facing.</p><p>First off EVERY item in game could be dropped and become an item in your house, it was also oriantated baised on your exsact oriantation in the room at the time it was placed. Moving it up and down was a command like /move furniture up XXX. What made it difficult was moving stuff in the X,Y as you could only move it parralle to the direction you where facing, so if you where not lined up exsactly perpindicular to the object when you used the forward or back command it would move both to the left/right as well as moving back. So people took to carrying chairs around with them, and designing the place in referance to that fixed position.</p>

illaria
03-26-2010, 04:07 PM
<p>In the norrathan homeshow forums Jesdyr has created a program that easily lets you manage your layouts files and position items. I highly reccomend it</p>

Rhak
03-27-2010, 12:57 PM
<p><cite>illaria wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In the norrathan homeshow forums Jesdyr has created a program that easily lets you manage your layouts files and position items. I highly reccomend it</p></blockquote><p><cite>Airea@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the ability to save guild/house layouts to a text-file, we apparently gained the ability to manipulate the x, y, z position and orientation of placed items.  <strong>For those of us who prefer not to mess with text files and even for those that currently do, having an in game feature that allows the same thing would be really nice.</strong></p></blockquote><p>I've read plenty of horror stories of the /layout feature backfiring pretty badly, and I have no wish to redo my entire 500+ item home just so I can try to rotate items around on its various axises.</p>

Wullail
03-27-2010, 01:41 PM
<p><cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I could swear we had those controls when the game first came out... I remember having a book that was swivelled around and standing on a corner, and I couldn't figure out how to get it back to sitting flat... maybe I'm thinking of something else, but I coulda swore it was EQ2... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>That was a feature in Vanguard , the item even moves as you changed the X/Y/Z axis values and reset if you dind't accept the changes.</p>

Armawk
03-27-2010, 05:10 PM
<p><cite>Rhakos@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>illaria wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In the norrathan homeshow forums Jesdyr has created a program that easily lets you manage your layouts files and position items. I highly reccomend it</p></blockquote><p><cite>Airea@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the ability to save guild/house layouts to a text-file, we apparently gained the ability to manipulate the x, y, z position and orientation of placed items.  <strong>For those of us who prefer not to mess with text files and even for those that currently do, having an in game feature that allows the same thing would be really nice.</strong></p></blockquote><p>I've read plenty of horror stories of the /layout feature backfiring pretty badly, and I have no wish to redo my entire 500+ item home just so I can try to rotate items around on its various axises.</p></blockquote><p>Save a copy of the file before messing about?</p>

Wullail
03-29-2010, 09:44 AM
<p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rhakos@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>illaria wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In the norrathan homeshow forums Jesdyr has created a program that easily lets you manage your layouts files and position items. I highly reccomend it</p></blockquote><p><cite>Airea@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>With the ability to save guild/house layouts to a text-file, we apparently gained the ability to manipulate the x, y, z position and orientation of placed items.  <strong>For those of us who prefer not to mess with text files and even for those that currently do, having an in game feature that allows the same thing would be really nice.</strong></p></blockquote><p>I've read plenty of horror stories of the /layout feature backfiring pretty badly, and I have no wish to redo my entire 500+ item home just so I can try to rotate items around on its various axises.</p></blockquote><p>Save a copy of the file before messing about?</p></blockquote><p>I did that , rotated a spear to stand on it's end leaning against the wall , didn't like it , reloaded the original layout file...and lost 10+ items that I had to click on the door and re-place.</p>

Rhak
03-29-2010, 11:01 AM
<p><cite>Wullail@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Save a copy of the file before messing about?</p></blockquote><p>I did that , rotated a spear to stand on it's end leaning against the wall , didn't like it , reloaded the original layout file...and lost 10+ items that I had to click on the door and re-place.</p></blockquote><p>And that is exactly why I don't mess with the /layout command and would much rather have the same power inside the game itself.</p>