Tier 3 loot improved

[Bremer]

<p>"Many of the Tier 3 Raid Boss Armor drops have been improved to be more in line with the challenge.Tier 3 Priest sets had some spell reuse added and some casting haste removed."</p><p>So, what bosses are Tier 3? And what tier 1 or 2? Or 4?</p>

[Undorett]

<p>Tier 3 are all the hard mode encounters</p><p>T2 hats drop from Maalus, Gloves from the sages, boots/legs are upgrades with seals...not sure where the other T2 ones are off the top of my head</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>The boots and legs you buy off the Seal merchant are tier 2.</p><p>Tier 3 legs are Toxxulia. Shoulders are Waansu. Breastplace is 4-rune Rhoen Theer (presumably). No idea who drops bracers or boots.</p>

[Gaige]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The boots and legs you buy off the Seal merchant are tier 2.</p><p>Tier 3 legs are Toxxulia. Shoulders are Waansu. Breastplace is 4-rune Rhoen Theer (presumably). No idea who drops bracers or boots.</p></blockquote><p>Perah drops T3 bracers, Maalus Imbued drops the helms and I think 3 Sages drop the boots?</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>I'm pretty sure, since Perah'Celsis is an easy-mode boss and Waansu is the hard-mode, that Perah'Celsis only drops tier 2 bracers.</p><p>Not to mention the forearms on his loot table equal the Tier 2 crit mit for forearms. Tier 1 forearms are 6% crit mit, tier 2 are 9.6 crit mit, and tier 3 are 12% crit mit.</p>

[Gaige]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm pretty sure, since Perah'Celsis is an easy-mode boss and Waansu is the hard-mode, that Perah'Celsis only drops tier 2 bracers.</p></blockquote><p>From looking at them I don't think so, but if you can think of another hard mode mob I guess you could be right.</p><p>Toxx, Explorer, Waansu, Twins, Maalus, 3 Sages, Rhoen Theer and the two contested.  We know SOE won't put armor on the contested (or if they do they'll change it) so that leaves exactly 7 mobs and they've all been killed except Theer and the Explorer.</p>

[Undorett]

<p>The "upgrade" from T1 to T2 is still nonexistent aside from a few items having more crit mit.  And, I think Gaige is right, 7 hardmode instance mobs - 7 armor slots.</p><p>I would like to see how much improved the other items on the hardmode mobs are though <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>From looking at them I don't think so, but if you can think of another hard mode mob I guess you could be right.<p>Toxx, Explorer, Waansu, Twins, Maalus, 3 Sages, Rhoen Theer and the two contested.  We know SOE won't put armor on the contested (or if they do they'll change it) so that leaves exactly 7 mobs and they've all been killed except Theer and the Explorer.</p></blockquote><p>Toxxulia = LegsWaansu = ShouldersTheer = BPMaalus = Helm3 Sages = GlovesParmare Twins = Boots</p><p>Right?</p><p>That leaves Arkathanthis the Destroyer (Hard mode of Xilaxis the Explorer) to drop bracers.</p><p>Tier 3 sets all follow a naming convention to identify them too (ie: Summoner set is Baleful Caller's, Tank plate set is Hulking, etc).</p>

[Gaige]

<p>3 Sages don't drop the gloves, Klaaktus does.  3 Sages have dropped jewelry so far afaik.</p>

[Korrupt]

<p>hey SOE, .1 potency and .1 crit bonus is not an upgrade "more in line with the difficulty". [Removed for Content] is this dev team doing?</p>

[physht]

<p>I want you to make it more upgrade (1% is a too little. )</p><p>I think failure that added red adornment slot to Tier 1.Because the value of the Armor is decided by the presence of red adornment slot.</p>

[SonnyA]

<p><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>3 Sages don't drop the gloves, Klaaktus does.  3 Sages have dropped jewelry so far afaik.</p></blockquote><p>Confirmed.</p><p>3 sages easy drops tier 2 gloves</p><p>3 sages hard drops jewelry, but no armor</p>

[browsy]

<p>easy sages drop gloves, hard sages drop jewelery (which is a complete abomanation considering the length of the fight) not the fact they just drop jewelery, simply how bad it is.</p><p>Im assuming odax drops t2 pants and im pretty sure klaaktus drops t2 gloves.  If the gloves from 3 sages easy are tier 3 then thats basically saying you have to kill easy mode mob to get the best in slot glove item.  Id hope they just faild on itemizing HM sages and they are supposed to have gloves to it would be</p><p>Theer chests</p><p>Tox legs</p><p>Maalus hats</p><p>Twins boots</p><p>Waansu shoulders</p><p>Fishy guy forearms</p><p>sages gloves</p><p>^ for t3 armour.</p>

[SonnyA]

<p><cite>physht wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I want you to make it more upgrade (1% is a too little. )</p><p>I think failure that added red adornment slot to Tier 1.Because the value of the Aromr is decided by the presence of red adornment slot.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I agree. The items are simply too similar now.</p><p>The idea I'm all for is</p><p>Tier 1 - Armor with better than legendary stats</p><p>Tier 2 - Tier 1, plus better stats and red slot</p><p>Tier 3 - Tier 2, plus better stats and good procs/passive abilities</p>

[Jeal]

<p>i'm sure you guys are already working on this; but there are a lot of items off hard mode mobs that seriously need to be adjusted... and some of it is just... hard to understand :/</p>

[Yennik]

<p>silly question, were do we get T1 armor?  Is that some of the armor we buy with marks in moonfeild village?  were does the rest of t1 crop?</p>

[Cawti]

<p>I'm trying to compile a list of where stuff drops for my guild and this is what I've come up with so far from reading various threads, combing Xanadu and personal experience, do I have this right?</p><p> Tier 1 Fabled  (Regular Names and Trash Mobs): Bracers -- Wyvernlord Tuluun Shoulders --  Vuulan Hat -- Labs Trash, Iilsaad's Barrier Gloves -- Labs Trash, Buldoral Boots -- Ernax, Kendis Parmare Breastplate -- Xilaxis Pants -- Azara the Seer Tier 2 Fabled  (Regular Names): Hat -- Maalus Gloves -- Sages Bracers -- <span >Perah'Celsis</span> Breastplate -- Shoulders -- Boots -- Upgraded from T1 Legs -- Upgraded from T1 Tier 3 Fabled  (Usually Hard Mode Encounters) Legs -- Toxxulia Shoulders -- Waansu  (Hardmode of <span >Perah'Celsis)</span> Breastplate -- 4- Rune Rhoen Theer Hat -- Maalus Imbued Gloves -- Klaaktus Bracers --<span >  Arkathanthis the Destroyer (Hard mode of Xilaxis the Explorer)</span> Boots --  Parmare Twins</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Near as I can tell Tier 1 is a hodgepodge.</p><p>Wyvernlord Tuluun - all BracersVuulan - all ShouldersLabs Trash - some Helmet, Legs, GlovesErnax Heridion - most BootsThe Scavanator - HelmetsXilaxis the Explorer - Most Tier 1 BreastplatesLieutenant Buldoral - most GlovesAzara the Seer - Most LegsKendis Parmare - Robes of Duality (summoner BP), some boots, some legs, some shouldersIilsaad's Barrier - Some helmets</p>

[Xalmat]

<p><cite>Cawti@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Tier 2 Fabled  (Regular Names):<p>Hat -- Maalus Gloves -- Sages Bracers -- <span>Perah'Celsis</span> Breastplate -- <strong>2 or 3 rune Rhoen Theer</strong> Shoulders --<strong> Quest reward</strong> Boots -- Upgraded from T1 Legs -- Upgraded from T1</p></blockquote><p>Corrected. The quest you get for tier 2 shoulders (called Subordination Insubordination) only unlocks after you complete the signature quests for both Toxxulia's Mound and Perah'Celsis Lab. The quest requires you to kill every boss in Palace of Rhoen Theer, including Rhoen Theer himself.</p>

[glowsintheda]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Near as I can tell Tier 1 is a hodgepodge.</p><p>Wyvernlord Tuluun - all BracersVuulan - all ShouldersLabs Trash - some Helmet, Legs, GlovesErnax Heridion - most BootsThe Scavanator - HelmetsXilaxis the Explorer - Most Tier 1 BreastplatesLieutenant Buldoral - most GlovesAzara the Seer - Most LegsKendis Parmare - Robes of Duality (summoner BP), some boots, some legs, some shouldersIilsaad's Barrier - Some helmets</p></blockquote><p>Have yet to see a helmet off Barrier, but have seen brawler BP from him</p>

[Korrupt]

<p>Did they already do the supposed improvment on hardmode gear, because looking at it theres still not much difference at all between easymode and hardmode armor pieces</p>

[Yennik]

<p>added some more info to the lists given above.  I'm sure there is still much more to be added:</p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: medium; font-family: Calibri;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The new lvl 90 raid gear:</span></strong></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #ff0000; font-family: Calibri;"><strong>Tier 1 Fabled<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>(Regular mode Names /<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Trash Mobs):</strong></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Bracers ------- Wyvernlord Tuluun ----- Lair of the Dragon Queen (1st name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Shoulders ---- Vuulan --------------------- Lair of the Dragon Queen (3rd name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Hat ------------ Trash mobs, -------------- Abominable Laboratory (trash)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Hat ------------ Lilsaad's Barrier ---------- The Palace of Roehn Theer ( name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Hat ------------ The Scavanator ---------- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Abominable Laboratory (4th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Gloves ------- Trash mobs ---------------- Abominable Laboratory (trash)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Gloves ------- Lieutant Buldoral -------- The Palace of Roehn Theer (1st name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Boots -------- Ernax Heridion ------------ Abominable Laboratory (1st name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Boots -------- Kendis Parmare ----------- The Palace of Roehn Theer (3rd name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Pants --------- Azara the Seer ------------ The Palace of Roehn Theer (2nd name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Pants ---------Kendis Parmare ----------- The Palace of Roehn Theer (3rd name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Breastplate – Xilaxis the Explorer------ Abominable Laboratory (6th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #ff0000; font-family: Calibri;"><strong>Tier 2 Fabled<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>(Regular mode Names):</strong></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Hat ------------ Maalus Shadowfyre ------- The palace of Roehn Theer (6th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Gloves -------- Sages ------------------------- The palace of Roehn Theer (7th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Bracers ------- Perah'Celsis ----------------- Abominable Laboratory (7th <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Breastplate -- Rhoen Theer (2/3 rune) – The palace of Roehn Theer (8th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Shoulders --- Quest reward***</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Boots --------- T1 boots + seals ----------- City of Paniel</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Legs ---------- T1 boots + seals ------------ City of Paniel</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">***The quest you get for tier 2 shoulders (called Subordination Insubordination) only unlocks after you complete the signature quests for both Toxxulia's Mound and Perah'Celsis Lab. The quest requires you to kill every boss in Palace of Rhoen Theer, including Rhoen Theer himself.</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #ff0000; font-family: Calibri;"><strong>Tier 3 Fabled<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>(Usually Hard Mode Encounters)</strong></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Legs ------------ Toxxulia (with Vuulan) -----------Lair of the Dragon Queen (3rd name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Shoulders ----- Waansu<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>(Hard Perah'Celsis)--- Abominable Laboratory (7th<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Breastplate --- Rhoen Theer (4 rune) ----------- The palace of Roehn Theer (8th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Hat ------------- Maalus (Imbued) ----------------- The palace of Roehn Theer (6th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Gloves --------- Klaaktus</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Bracers ------- Arkathanthis the Destroyer --- Abominable Laboratory (6th name)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Boots ---------<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Parmare Twins------------------- The Palace of Roehn Theer (3rd name)</span></p>