I got an idea... how about a WHOLE day without patches?!!!

[PlaneCrazy]

<p>Give us a break why don't you! </p><p>It's admirable that you guys are working so hard to fix bugs in the game, and I made an argument before about the particular times you decide to bring the US servers down (which you basically justified by saying you don't want to inconvenience Asian or Aussie prime times) ...  but EVERY freeking day is getting a bit much for these patches.</p><p>A lot of us play during these hours.  Are you going to compensate us for the several lost hours this week alone?</p><p>How about just saving the fixes and then just adding them to the weekly patch?  Is that to hard?  I'm knee deep in new content and there's nothing I have run across so far that couldn't wait a few days to fix (oh wait, I don't play BG - LOL)</p><p>It's all fine and dandy to joke about hamsters dying and everything, but seriously, this is getting very annoying and it's not looking too professional on the part of SOE.  It leaves the impression that they released a product that was very under tested and unfinished.</p>

[Ceboggo]

<p>here here!</p><p>I may be brand new to Everquest 2... i started playing seriously just a few days ago... but each day ive played for the last 4 days, there has been a substantial chunk of downtime right in the middle of my playing hours.</p><p>it seems odd that they wouldnt just do a weekly patch... instead of all these dailys.</p><p>I can understand if its an immediate problem that needs fixing (like a dupe bug or something) but i dont think that is the case.   Im thinking also more testing should have been done perhaps to avoid this patch-fest.</p>

[Grintch]

Ahh, [Removed for Content]. I was deciding whether I should take a shower anyways!

[Magathos]

<p>Well ya beat me to it.</p><p>This is total bullcrap.</p><p>-----------------------------------------</p><p>Kiara wrote this on 03/03/2010 in Official Announcements:</p><p><span ><p>Greetings all!</p><p>There's a rather urgent issue that requires a fix tomorrow morning <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: medium;">(after that we will be returning to our usual Tuesday hotfixes).</span></strong></span></em></p><p>The US servers will patch at the usual time of 6am PST and Runnyeye and Splitpaw will patch at 9pm PST (5am GMT Friday March 5).</p><p>We expect it to be the usual hour to hour and a half downtime.</p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p>Oh, and ZERO communication about the downtime.  SOE you are terrible.  Can't wait until Aion is worth playing.</p></span></p>

[Shareana]

<p>And here we are..  38 ish minutes into the downtime before the first real complaint...  lol</p><p>They will be up soon...  I was just as surprised to see the downtime spam in game <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Sleap]

<p>Well past few days was frustrating.. not staying on schedule, perhaps all the patch/fix employees ate too many hotwings and were in the bathroom for an hour or so. But today they are on the ball, its 9:38 AM here and servers are already being prepared to come back up, as server status says they are locked, not down. Keep up the good work guys.</p>

[PlaneCrazy]

<p>I'm getting the impression that they are treating the release of Battlegrounds as an open beta.  They change something, then watch the rest of the day and change something again the next day and repeat.  But in betas, people agree to be testers and agree to the frequent patches and bugs etc.  I sure as heck didn't agree to be a beta tester for SOE lately and I don't appreciate them doing their testing on my dime.  I pay to play, not sit here watching these forums, waiting for the game to come back up.</p>

[Shareana]

<p>It is not only the BG's that they are updating.  Please stop assuming and spreading that around.  </p>

[Ceboggo]

<p><cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm getting the impression that they are treating the release of Battlegrounds as an open beta.  They change something, then watch the rest of the day and change something again the next day and repeat.  But in betas, people agree to be testers and agree to the frequent patches and bugs etc.  I sure as heck didn't agree to be a beta tester for SOE lately and I don't appreciate them doing their testing on my dime.  I pay to play, not sit here watching these forums, waiting for the game to come back up.</p></blockquote><p>QFT</p><p>you said it all.  </p>

[Dorsan]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And here we are..  38 ish minutes into the downtime before the first real complaint...  lol</p></blockquote><p>It's cuz you locked my thread from 2 days ago. Otherwise I'd post as soon as I have seen the going down message tbh.</p>

[PlaneCrazy]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And here we are..  38 ish minutes into the downtime before the first real complaint...  lol</p><p>They will be up soon...  I was just as surprised to see the downtime spam in game <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>There's a reason Shareana.  I work the same hours each night and I log on the same time each day and (for the last week and more) I see the same thing.... servers down.</p><p>It's only an hour, sure.  But when you work 12 hour shifts, there isn't much left over in the day to relax and play a game.  And now it's even less for me and for the many others who are morning peeps in EQ2.</p>

[Shareana]

<p>Lol....  no sense in posting about a downtime that happened days ago...  </p><p>New Day, new thread <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>As for why they do not wait until Tuesday....  Pretty sure that if that happened, too many people would be complaining that things weren't working right.  </p><p>Sadly the downtimes that they have seem to effect the least amount of players.  It is a pain in the tushie for some of us (notice us, you are not alone in this), but overall it is better then doing it during prime playtime (in general)...</p>

[Sleap]

<p><cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's only an hour, sure.  But when you work 12 hour shifts, there isn't much left over in the day to relax and play a game.  And now it's even less for me and for the many others who are morning peeps in EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>I used to work that kind of schedule too, when i had a job, leave for work at 3pm get home close to 5am, i want to play but cant because im gonna be up with the kids at 8am because the wife, soon to be ex-wife, wont get her carcause out of bed.. i feel ya bro.</p>

[Shareana]

<p><cite>PlaneCrazy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And here we are..  38 ish minutes into the downtime before the first real complaint...  lol</p><p>They will be up soon...  I was just as surprised to see the downtime spam in game <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>There's a reason Shareana.  I work the same hours each night and I log on the same time each day and (for the last week and more) I see the same thing.... servers down.</p><p>It's only an hour, sure.  But when you work 12 hour shifts, there isn't much left over in the day to relax and play a game.  And now it's even less for me and for the many others who are morning peeps in EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>I do understand..  This is my play time too...  but I have hope that things will be better soon.  </p>

[channel]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It is not only the BG's that they are updating.  Please stop assuming and spreading that around.  </p></blockquote><p>i would be less likely to assume it's because of BGs if the Game update Notes section were updated with patch notes...</p><p>there was downtime yesterday, and downtime today - and NO notes posted as to what is going in, what is being fixed... etc....</p><p>the last update note on <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/forums/show.m?forum_id=330">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/....m?forum_id=330</a> was for wednesday...</p>

[PlaneCrazy]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It is not only the BG's that they are updating.  Please stop assuming and spreading that around.  </p></blockquote><p>Prove it.</p><p>Provide detailed patch notes for every day the server has come done.</p><p>And then, just to be fair... ask a dev the reason why those particular bugs were important enough to bring the servers down on a daily basis.  As far as I have seen , the most pressing issues all have to do with BG and it's effect on all the servers</p><p>- Massive lag</p><p>- People getting stuck inside BG</p><p>- People loosing XP in BG</p><p>- People loosing AA in BG or when they leave BG</p><p>Those are bugs serious enough to warrent hot fixes right now.  I haven't seen a single bug that warranted an emergency hot fix in the PVE part of Sentinel's Fate yet.</p><p>None of this changes my feelings I voiced above. That this is starting to look like a beta that we're being forced into participating in.</p>

[Sleap]

<p>Well 10 more mins and we should be set to go! Lemme go distract the kids with movies, drinks and chips <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Shareana]

<p>I know that Kiara has mentioned DB issues in a few of her previous posts.  It may be those issues that they are updating.  Perhaps they do not have patch notes for behind the scenes fixing of the DB...</p>

[Shareana]

<p><cite>Primel@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well 10 more mins and we should be set to go! Lemme go distract the kids with movies, drinks and chips <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Jeff Dunham is a favorite of mine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  My daughter LOVES watching that movie with me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[PlaneCrazy]

<p><cite>Primel@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well 10 more mins and we should be set to go! Lemme go distract the kids with movies, drinks and chips <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>LOL.  I miss having my step-daughter here.  I used to get her harvesting on my second computer for me <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  She was only 6 when she started but boy! She could harvest!!</p><p>Looks like I'll make my lunch for work tonight and if I am lucky, I can play for maybe 3 hours still and cut my sleep short this afternoon.  I start 36 hours of work tonight (3 x 12-hour shifts in a row) </p><p>With my luck, the servers will be up all weekend without a patch... while i'm working and/or sleeping.</p>

[Sleap]

<p>SILENCE!! I KEELU!</p>

[Narsikus]

<p><cite>Magathos@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well ya beat me to it.</p><p>This is total bullcrap.</p><p>-----------------------------------------</p><p>Kiara wrote this on 03/03/2010 in Official Announcements:</p><p>Greetings all!</p><p>There's a rather urgent issue that requires a fix tomorrow morning <span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">(after that we will be returning to our usual Tuesday hotfixes).</span></span></p><p>The US servers will patch at the usual time of 6am PST and Runnyeye and Splitpaw will patch at 9pm PST (5am GMT Friday March 5).</p><p>We expect it to be the usual hour to <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: small;">hour and a half downtime.</span></span></strong></p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p>Oh, and ZERO communication about the downtime.  SOE you are terrible.  Can't wait until Aion is worth playing.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, and since when was the usual downtime changed to an hour and half?  </p><p>Thank you so much Battlegrounds.......I just love how you "haven't affected PvE players gaming experience" at all, which was original stated.</p>

[KatrinaDeath]

<p>There back up!</p><p>I'll see you all back here Monday morning for the next stealth patch.</p>

[Maroger]

<p><cite>Narsikus@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Magathos@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well ya beat me to it.</p><p>This is total bullcrap.</p><p>-----------------------------------------</p><p>Kiara wrote this on 03/03/2010 in Official Announcements:</p><p>Greetings all!</p><p>There's a rather urgent issue that requires a fix tomorrow morning <span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">(after that we will be returning to our usual Tuesday hotfixes).</span></span></p><p>The US servers will patch at the usual time of 6am PST and Runnyeye and Splitpaw will patch at 9pm PST (5am GMT Friday March 5).</p><p>We expect it to be the usual hour to <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: small;">hour and a half downtime.</span></span></strong></p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p>Oh, and ZERO communication about the downtime.  SOE you are terrible.  Can't wait until Aion is worth playing.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, and since when was the usual downtime changed to an hour and half?  </p><p>Thank you so much Battlegrounds.......I just love how you "haven't affected PvE players gaming experience" at all, which was original stated.</p></blockquote><p>QFT - I don't care what they say if they hadn't installed BG we would not be having downtime every )(&$%% day.</p>

[channel]

<p><cite>Swisha@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'll see you all back here Monday morning for the next stealth patch.</p></blockquote><p>why wait til monday, they did one this week this past SUNDAY...    so who knows, we might still see patches this weekend (crosses fingers that we DON'T!) :p</p>

[Detor]

<p><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Lol....  no sense in posting about a downtime that happened days ago...  </p><p>New Day, new thread <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>As for why they do not wait until Tuesday....  Pretty sure that if that happened, too many people would be complaining that things weren't working right.  </p><p>Sadly the downtimes that they have seem to effect the least amount of players.  It is a pain in the tushie for some of us (notice us, you are not alone in this), but overall it is better then doing it during prime playtime (in general)...</p></blockquote><p>It was a pretty serious bug, when returning from Battlegrounds people were losing items.  They really didn't want to wait until Tuesday to fix that kind of bug.</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=472948�" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...48�</a></p><p>'Missing items after return from Battlegrounds'</p><p>Rothgar: <span >This fix will be going out to all servers tomorrow morning.</span></p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Magathos@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well ya beat me to it.</p><p>This is total bullcrap.</p><p>-----------------------------------------</p><p>Kiara wrote this on 03/03/2010 in Official Announcements:</p><p><span><p>Greetings all!</p><p>There's a rather urgent issue that requires a fix tomorrow morning <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: medium;">(after that we will be returning to our usual Tuesday hotfixes).</span></strong></span></em></p><p>The US servers will patch at the usual time of 6am PST and Runnyeye and Splitpaw will patch at 9pm PST (5am GMT Friday March 5).</p><p>We expect it to be the usual hour to hour and a half downtime.</p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p>Oh, and ZERO communication about the downtime.  SOE you are terrible.  Can't wait until Aion is worth playing.</p></span></p></blockquote><p>don't think that will ever happen in the lifetime of the universe. SDT is a SDT and it can't change it's stench.</p><p>Down time doesn;t bother me, what bothers me is if there are know issues that have fixes available to them and they hold them because they don't want to drop the servers for an hour or so. I start playing around the time the servers come down now, patch time used to be 4AM Pacific, but they changed it becasue of complaints from the pacific rim players. Used to be 4am, they changed it to 7am, then moved it back a hour to the current 6am</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=64210">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...?topic_id=64210</a></p>