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Gisallo
03-02-2010, 06:29 PM
<p>Okay I am a little [Removed for Content] and just want to know if there was any rationalization beyond "lets make the emo people happy".</p><p>I heal crit for what my crit says (so do defilers)</p><p>I spell crit for what my crit says (so do defilers and thats typically their primary damage)</p><p>Crusaders still crit both spell, taunt, melee for what there crit says etc.</p><p>Bards still get spell and melee crit</p><p>heck every other class still gets their crit to crit on everything</p><p>Over all I still heal less (weaker wards grand total, weaker heals grand total, raid wide bear is still not worth a [Removed for Content] etc.)</p><p>BUT now my melee autoattack is 49%.  So what is the rationalization for this beyond "lets shut up the emo people"?</p><p>The whole point of the mystic according to SOE is that the Mystic does more damage versus the defiler being all heals.  This has been pretty much smacked hard by this change, especially for the solo mystics out there (not me) who spec'd their mystics to be mostly melee crit under the old tree.  Now they can have all the crit gear in the world and it makes no difference.</p>

Banditman
03-02-2010, 06:48 PM
<p>What specifically are you trying to say here?  If your crit is 49%, yes, your melee crit is going to be 49% . . . as will your spell crit and heal crit.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.</p>

Brook
03-02-2010, 06:57 PM
<p><cite>Gisallo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Okay I am a <strong>little [Removed for Content]</strong> and just want to know if there was any rationalization beyond "l<strong>ets make the emo people happy</strong>".</p><p>I heal crit for what my crit says (so do defilers)</p><p>I spell crit for what my crit says (so do defilers and thats typically their primary damage)</p><p>Crusaders still crit both spell, taunt, melee for what there crit says etc.</p><p>Bards still get spell and melee crit</p><p>heck every other class still gets their crit to crit on everything</p><p>Over all I still heal less (weaker wards grand total, weaker heals grand total, raid wide bear is still not worth a [Removed for Content] etc.)</p><p>BUT now my melee autoattack is 49%.  So what is the rationalization for this beyond "lets shut up the emo people"?</p><p>The whole point of the mystic according to SOE is that the Mystic does more damage versus the defiler being all heals.  This has been pretty much smacked hard by this change, especially for the solo mystics out there (not me) who spec'd their mystics to be mostly melee crit under the old tree.  Now they can have all the crit gear in the world and it makes no difference.</p></blockquote><p>You sound a bit emo imo so you should be happy.</p><p>Thats what I got from it.</p>

Gisallo
03-02-2010, 08:22 PM
<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What specifically are you trying to say here?  If your crit is 49%, yes, your melee crit is going to be 49% . . . as will your spell crit and heal crit.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.</p></blockquote><p>No my crit is 123%  however they nerfed us so that my melee autoattack is now only 49% (at least per ACT).  I still crit 100% on my heals, CA's and spells BUT unlike every other class in the game apparently, my autoattack crit is now 49% when everyone else gets full use of their's (as far as I can tell).  Hope that clarifies Bandit. </p><p>As for am I emo Brook hell yeah I am.  I got a 50% nerf on my primary source of dps and if you are healing and curing fine then its our job to contribute to that parse too.  Now my way of contributing is nerfed when others is not...so yeah that makes me emo.  Most people tend to get emo when they see a ninja nerf with no explanation in my experience.  I would like to know if there was an explaination as to why they did this to us and other classes did not suffer the same fate.</p>

Brook
03-02-2010, 08:59 PM
<p>I dont disagree with you one bit tbh, I said something about changes in beta and was told (by a dev no less) that I am basically overreacting and that the changes would be fine. I guess that was supposed to make me feel better.</p><p>I understand why they made the changes, it makes their job easier. The part I haven't quite got a grasp on yet is if these changes were really good for the game in the long term as far as still being as fun as it once was. I dont know about you, but I am certainly tired of having to relearn my character and how to get the most out of them that fits my playstyle every freakin expansion.</p><p>I shelved my guard due to changes and picked up a melee warden and was enjoying that when the last changes went in.. I feel sorta let down by this expansion, its nothing I can put my finger on but I dont see more than 2-3 months tops worth of content added and a lot of the older zones revamped to kiddie-land. Am I missing part of the bigger picture here?</p><p>To answer your question in the title of your post about rationalization, I am not really sure there is any, and the people who might have a bit of insight into it probably will not comment. It basically boils down to suck it up and deal with it till something else comes along that catches your fancy and dont waste your time trying to make sense of things that dont make sense.</p>

Idako
03-02-2010, 09:29 PM
<p><cite>Gisallo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What specifically are you trying to say here?  If your crit is 49%, yes, your melee crit is going to be 49% . . . as will your spell crit and heal crit.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.</p></blockquote><p>No my crit is 123%  however they nerfed us so that my melee autoattack is now only 49% (at least per ACT).  I still crit 100% on my heals, CA's and spells BUT unlike every other class in the game apparently, my autoattack crit is now 49% when everyone else gets full use of their's (as far as I can tell).  Hope that clarifies Bandit. </p><p>As for am I emo Brook hell yeah I am.  I got a 50% nerf on my primary source of dps and if you are healing and curing fine then its our job to contribute to that parse too.  Now my way of contributing is nerfed when others is not...so yeah that makes me emo.  Most people tend to get emo when they see a ninja nerf with no explanation in my experience.  I would like to know if there was an explaination as to why they did this to us and other classes did not suffer the same fate.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmmmm you sure dogdog isn't ruining your crits?</p>

Gisallo
03-02-2010, 09:34 PM
<p><cite>Idako wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gisallo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What specifically are you trying to say here?  If your crit is 49%, yes, your melee crit is going to be 49% . . . as will your spell crit and heal crit.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say.</p></blockquote><p>No my crit is 123%  however they nerfed us so that my melee autoattack is now only 49% (at least per ACT).  I still crit 100% on my heals, CA's and spells BUT unlike every other class in the game apparently, my autoattack crit is now 49% when everyone else gets full use of their's (as far as I can tell).  Hope that clarifies Bandit. </p><p>As for am I emo Brook hell yeah I am.  I got a 50% nerf on my primary source of dps and if you are healing and curing fine then its our job to contribute to that parse too.  Now my way of contributing is nerfed when others is not...so yeah that makes me emo.  Most people tend to get emo when they see a ninja nerf with no explanation in my experience.  I would like to know if there was an explaination as to why they did this to us and other classes did not suffer the same fate.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmmmm you sure dogdog isn't ruining your crits?</p></blockquote><p>I can check but when he did before it was never this consistent.  on every single pull I have 49% exactly, usually if dog dog is screwing things up its all over the map, 40 something one pull, 70 something the next 100 the next but u could be right I suppose. </p>

Banditman
03-03-2010, 10:48 AM
<p>Go to guild hall, grab training dummy, plant training dummy.  Auto attack on.  Check logs (not ACT!).</p>