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drakkenshie
02-28-2010, 04:55 PM
<p>What is a good Mystic AA setup for running with a conjurer, healing the pet and hitting group heroic content?</p><p>The conjurer's pet is doing the tanking, so the mystic needs to keep the pet alive primarily, and of course ward the group against damage.</p><p>I was thinking the STR and STA lines produced some immediate buff, debuff, and healing benefits on that side, not as sure about the best things to put initial points into on the mystic AA tree.</p><p>Both toons are currently right at level 30.  The mystic does not have many AAs yet so the advice sought is for low level characters, not what to do with a level 80+ raid toon or for running the mystic solo: this is duo/group support at low->mid levels.</p><p>This is for a mystic supporting a conjurer in a duo mostly, and also group runs.</p><p>I repeat that because every time I ask on these forums I get advice on what to do at high levels... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Ideas welcome.</p>

Gahnand
02-28-2010, 08:23 PM
<p>it's a duo working solo content. even without aas you should have no problem.</p><p>The truth is, it's going to be so easy that you might as well just do a solo spec, which there are already tons of posts on. Go for DPS. If the stuff isn't dying before you have to heal (after pre-wards) then you are doing it wrong.</p>

drakkenshie
03-01-2010, 07:48 AM
<p><cite>Gahnand@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>it's a duo working solo content. even without aas you should have no problem.</p><p>The truth is, it's going to be so easy that you might as well just do a solo spec, which there are already tons of posts on. Go for DPS. If the stuff isn't dying before you have to heal (after pre-wards) then you are doing it wrong.</p></blockquote><p>This is a duo running group heroic content, HQs, etc... not solo lines.</p><p>We hit solo stuff if it's worth doing, but that's a side effect not a goal.</p>

Gahnand
03-01-2010, 02:37 PM
<p><cite>drakkenshield wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is a duo running group heroic content, HQs, etc... not solo lines.</p><p>We hit solo stuff if it's worth doing, but that's a side effect not a goal.</p></blockquote><p>It really depends on what you are capable of and what the conj is capable of. Keep in mind that healing a pet is way different than healing a player who has much higher mitigation, resistances, etc. The pet is going to have a lot of hitpoints, but it's going to get those points chewed through. This means that your heals and wards are generally not going to be very effective.</p><p>If I were you, I would focus on DPS. If your conj is doing it right, you should be able to tackle most heroic content by front-loading some wards and killing fast. If you get a bunch of adds, you probably aren't going to do so well. The conj is not going to keep from getting aggro from his pet if there is more than one encounter.</p><p>All "heroic" content up to level 65-ish is basically solo content now anyway.</p>

Arcanemundi
03-01-2010, 03:51 PM
<p><cite>drakkenshield wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What is a good Mystic AA setup for running with a conjurer, healing the pet and hitting group heroic content?</p><p>The conjurer's pet is doing the tanking, so the mystic needs to keep the pet alive primarily, and of course ward the group against damage.</p><p>I was thinking the STR and STA lines produced some immediate buff, debuff, and healing benefits on that side, not as sure about the best things to put initial points into on the mystic AA tree.</p><p>Both toons are currently right at level 30.  The mystic does not have many AAs yet so the advice sought is for low level characters, not what to do with a level 80+ raid toon or for running the mystic solo: this is duo/group support at low->mid levels.</p><p>This is for a mystic supporting a conjurer in a duo mostly, and also group runs.</p><p>I repeat that because every time I ask on these forums I get advice on what to do at high levels... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Ideas welcome.</p></blockquote><p>The best AA line for a Shaman is the WIS line.  Spec WIS line first so you have higher reuse, consistent debuffs, and larger spot heals, and most importantly the RoA finality.  That will make a big difference in this setup at low levels.  You can cast RoA on the Conjurer for better AoE DPS, and quicker recast of roots, or you could put RoA on the pet, but it's prob better on the Conj.  </p><p>The second area I would focus on in your AA tree would be your augmentations in the Mystic Tree so your health buffs are bigger, and SoW is faster.  After that focus on AGI for the Auto Attack boost and heal crit, and then your CAs and Shadow Abilities.</p>

Banditman
03-02-2010, 10:59 AM
<p>You're going to have a very difficult time trying to heal a pet.  They just don't have the mitigation of a 'real' person.  The Conj would probably tank as well as the pet, and you could tank better for sure.  The problem is that none of you will be able to consistently hold aggro.</p><p>You're going to have to figure out what works for you.  Nothing is impossible, and two talented players can probably develop strategies to make any duo combination work, given time and experience.</p>

drakkenshie
04-09-2010, 08:49 PM
<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're going to have a very difficult time trying to heal a pet.  They just don't have the mitigation of a 'real' person.  The Conj would probably tank as well as the pet, and you could tank better for sure.  The problem is that none of you will be able to consistently hold aggro.</p><p>You're going to have to figure out what works for you.  Nothing is impossible, and two talented players can probably develop strategies to make any duo combination work, given time and experience.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder if you have ever played a pet tank duo setup, because I've found pretty much the opposite.</p><p>I generally run a Templar healing a Conjurer and her pet.  The pet almost never loses aggro, and is generally easier to heal than most tanks I heal.</p><p>Admittedly, the conjurer is very good and set her pet up right, and a lot of tanks have bad equipment and skills.</p><p>Still, I'm pretty surprised to read this kind of comment.</p><p>Normally my friend and I run Conjurer/Templar, with me healing.</p><p>A newer duo we have is me on Conjurer and her on Mystic, so I was just really looking for advice on making the most of it.  We already know the combo works and works very well.</p>

drakkenshie
04-09-2010, 08:53 PM
<p><cite>drakkenshield wrote:</cite></p><blockquote></blockquote><p>Not sure how this post got here.</p>

drakkenshie
06-19-2010, 08:17 PM
<p><cite>Gahnand@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>drakkenshield wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is a duo running group heroic content, HQs, etc... not solo lines.</p><p>We hit solo stuff if it's worth doing, but that's a side effect not a goal.</p></blockquote><p>It really depends on what you are capable of and what the conj is capable of. Keep in mind that healing a pet is way different than healing a player who has much higher mitigation, resistances, etc. The pet is going to have a lot of hitpoints, but it's going to get those points chewed through. This means that your heals and wards are generally not going to be very effective.</p><p>If I were you, I would focus on DPS. If your conj is doing it right, you should be able to tackle most heroic content by front-loading some wards and killing fast. If you get a bunch of adds, you probably aren't going to do so well. The conj is not going to keep from getting aggro from his pet if there is more than one encounter.</p><p>All "heroic" content up to level 65-ish is basically solo content now anyway.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm...</p><p>In this case, I'm the conjuror btw.</p><p>My friend and I run another duo where she is the conjuror and I'm a templar, works well.</p><p>Both of us tend to be a little bloody, so we rarely attack only one encounter, preferring to hit several, sometimes even multiple heroics.  Ball them up, then begin to kill.  Our pets rarely have trouble maintaining aggro as long as they get time to build up hate.</p><p>Focusing on DPS for the mystic seems to cause problems.  The mystic ends up with more aggro (even in group with real tanks) and heals are not as good, and the mystic has fewer AA points in defensive and party buffs.</p><p>If attacking always one mob at a time, then yea I could see where DPS helps, though so much stuff is linked or social outside the solo lines it would seem to cause trouble then.</p><p>Fortunately the mystic is a good healer anyway, so maybe a hybrid will work, still mulling it over.</p>

drakkenshie
06-19-2010, 08:22 PM
<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're going to have a very difficult time trying to heal a pet.  They just don't have the mitigation of a 'real' person.  The Conj would probably tank as well as the pet, and you could tank better for sure.  The problem is that none of you will be able to consistently hold aggro.</p><p>You're going to have to figure out what works for you.  Nothing is impossible, and two talented players can probably develop strategies to make any duo combination work, given time and experience.</p></blockquote><p>Interesting.</p><p>I never have trouble healing a pet except at level 80 content with a good summoner.</p><p>On a conjuror/templar duo, my friend's conjuror never had aggro trouble until we got into Kunark, and some more hate generating AAs and tactics changes fixed that so far.  The main issue is to use the hate spell and hate generating hits, and let the pet take aggro before hitting the mobs too hard.</p><p>My conjuror has tanked several con level zones even for full groups.</p><p>Conjuror tank better than the pet?  Not hardly, dead too fast... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Banditman
06-21-2010, 10:31 AM
<p>When you started this thread, you stated "Level 30" for both characters.  There is a world of difference between L30 and L80.  In another thread response yesterday you say you are currently level 24.  In this thread now you say you are Level 80.  In one thread you are duo'ing with a Paladin.  Here you say a Conjuror.</p><p>I'm having trouble wringing any sort of consistency from your statements.</p>