SF Brigand Excitement

[Bottjeremy]

<p>Just a FYI for all the brigands who have not spent much time spec'ing and testing their brigands this expansion.  It is understandable if you have not considering all the talk of brigands getting nerf'd and such, or not getting the buffs that swashy's did. </p><p>To get to the point without getting into parses, I gotta tell you that im excited at what i've been seeing, and my average dps is up considerably using the same gear from TSO while spec'ing potency, reuse and dance of the metal. </p><p>So basically im a 86 brig with 204 AA and im completely blowing my parses from TSO out of the water.  Please Please Please SOE, do not nerf the brigand in 10'  Good luck to all of you.</p>

[lazlo1]

<p>I doubt we will get nerfed. If anything we are getting left behind. I think we need a either a medium boost in aoe or a small boost in single target damage.</p><p>Just group with a equal quality swashy. He will out dps you zonewide by a large margin in SF zones. The more aoe mobs the larger the gap.</p><p>Single boss mobs brig and swashy are about tied.  (which i think is wrong) Group mobs depending on number and pull style of the tank swashy will do 2x-4x your output. Good tanks will also out dps a brig on most aoe fights.</p><p>Preds will out dps you on anything unless they are afk. As it should be. But its the 1.5x to 4x thats a little hard to take.</p><p>Dance of metal is nice but doesnt play nice with double up or lag monster. The mini-dispatch aoe is ok but not much dps.</p><p>The damage of T9 spells was not increased from what i can see or maybe set bonus are messing with them. My ad3 t9 dispatch showed less damage that mastered t8 dispatch. I need strip off all my gear/buffs to check for sure. I pray that is wrong.</p><p>Plus because of double-up you cant use t8 spells anyway. So its a forced upgrade. double-up always apllies highest level spell and the lower one wont stick after that ( murdereous rake anyone... ) thats was a nasty little surprise after i dinged.</p><p>All in All im pretty underwhelmed.</p>

[Turb]

<p>The T9 Adept III vs T8 Master I thing changes after you do the quest to strip your myth buff from your myth weapon (to be come a L80 spell/buff).</p><p>My dps has gone up too, but at the same time the gap to ranger/assassin has grown, and yes in AE fights while Cornered is fun it's nowhere near Hurricane for AE damage.   Swashies own us on AE.... surprise!</p><p>It would be nice for us to get something to improve our dps relative to swashies on single target fights.    I'm sure SOE could be creative and give us something if they put their minds to it.    For example, a CA that gave a similar effect to the Coif of Tolled Bells from MMB to replace the very underwhelming Will to Survive would be in keeping with the CA name but actually be useful (the coif is basically a 1 min buff every 5 mins that procs quite respectable damage and heals).</p><p>But hey, we're hardened mercenaries, we make the most of what we have!</p>

[Foromor]

<p>I honestly fail to see where most of you are coming from. I raided causally during RoK and moved up to hard core raiding for TSO and SF. I have yet to see a swashy beat me on a single target fight on any kind of a conistent basis. And tbh rangers don't parse as high as I do. I have been with 2 different guilds and played with many long time players of these classes. I refuse to believe that all of these players are subpar. I'm thinking that maybe some of you just aren't so great at playing your toons and need to step it up a bit instead of crying and saying mechanics hold you back. Look me up my brig is Narior on Butcherblock server.</p>

[Foromor]

<p>And concerning the other complaints. </p><p>1. DoM yeah double up breaks it ever think about throwing it up right after your double up chain???</p><p>2. Do your mythical conversion it does in fact make your T9 experts better then T8 masters. So now you can effectivly use double up again and it takes care of that pesky little problem of Dispatch Rake and Debilitate not being castable again until they expire.</p><p>Have a nice day</p>

[Mascouti]

<p><cite>Foromor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I honestly fail to see where most of you are coming from. I raided causally during RoK and moved up to hard core raiding for TSO and SF. I have yet to see a swashy beat me on a single target fight on any kind of a conistent basis. And tbh rangers don't parse as high as I do. I have been with 2 different guilds and played with many long time players of these classes. I refuse to believe that all of these players are subpar. I'm thinking that maybe some of you just aren't so great at playing your toons and need to step it up a bit instead of crying and saying mechanics hold you back. Look me up my brig is Narior on Butcherblock server.</p></blockquote><p>Our Rangers consistently hits close to 30k.  So your telling me your hitting over 30k?  Show me a parse.</p>

[Foromor]

<p>I never claimed to be hitting 30k I never acquired avatar charms or a flawless charm b4 leaving my previous guild. However I am saying that it is quite possible for an equally geared brig to out parse swashbucklers and rangers. This is the whole point of the conversation not carrying on about who's brig or who's ranger is the greatest. I never claimed to be the greatest.  I personally don't parse. But tomorrow just for you I will run my parser and post my results for you.</p>

[Mascouti]

<p><cite>Foromor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I never claimed to be hitting 30k I never acquired avatar charms or a flawless charm b4 leaving my previous guild. However I am saying that it is quite possible for an equally geared brig to out parse swashbucklers and rangers. This is the whole point of the conversation not carrying on about who's brig or who's ranger is the greatest. I never claimed to be the greatest.  I personally don't parse. But tomorrow just for you I will run my parser and post my results for you.</p></blockquote><p>Wasn't trying to say that, unlike you I am unhappy with the dps I am putting out.  And was more excited to see your parse to see what I was doing wrong.  Since I am no where near where other rangers are at.  Im lucky to hit 20k...  Im usually around 16-18k most of the time.  Thats without dom(laggy raid zones suck).</p>

[lazlo1]

<p><cite>Foromor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I honestly fail to see where most of you are coming from. I raided causally during RoK and moved up to hard core raiding for TSO and SF. I have yet to see a swashy beat me on a single target fight on any kind of a conistent basis. And tbh rangers don't parse as high as I do. I have been with 2 different guilds and played with many long time players of these classes. I refuse to believe that all of these players are subpar. I'm thinking that maybe some of you just aren't so great at playing your toons and need to step it up a bit instead of crying and saying mechanics hold you back. Look me up my brig is Narior on Butcherblock server.</p></blockquote><p>If you are out DPSing a ranger then either.</p><p>1. your ranger is really really bad.</p><p>2. there is a huge buf/gear difference.</p><p>3. you are making it up</p><p>Im 90 in full TSO top raid gear and a little SF raid gear with 220+AA. I know my char pretty well. I have Dom and Cornered. All the players I play with are very good, we are in a top raiding guild.</p><p>I can hit 20K somtimes, mostly 16K ish on fights. Perds are 1.5x+ my dps on singles and 2x to 4x on groups. A good swash is about the same on a single target and alot more 2x+ if ther are groups/adds. Swashs always are alot higher zonewide because of aoe fights.</p><p>Cornered is better than i thought, helps dps on groups. I just think we need a boost on single target fights to make up for getting owned so bad on aoe fights. Just look at zonewide parses against equal gear/grouped players its easy to see the dif.</p><p>Double up also needs some work. It should work with all brig damage CAs and not break Dom.</p>