Idle Timeout in Guild Halls

[Blambil]

<p>From the patch notes:</p> <blockquote>Housing zones and persistent instances will now automatically shutdown after one hour of inactivity.  Any AFK players left in the zone will be camped back to the character select screen.  You may still AFK indefinitely in overland zones, city zones and non-persistent dungeons.</blockquote><p> What is "inactivity"? for how long? Since the patch I'm getting kicked out while actively doing things in the guild hall... never was before....</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Blambil@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>From the patch notes:</p><blockquote>Housing zones and persistent instances will now automatically shutdown after one hour of inactivity.  Any AFK players left in the zone will be camped back to the character select screen.  You may still AFK indefinitely in overland zones, city zones and non-persistent dungeons.</blockquote><p>What is "inactivity"? for how long? Since the patch I'm getting kicked out while actively doing things in the guild hall... never was before....</p></blockquote><p>Apparently inactive for an hour but I am getting kicked in there left and right lately even with activity.</p>

[Blambil]

<p>same  here... any official response?</p>

[Blambil]

<p>... still seeing guildies kicked while active in the guild hall.....</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>Tell me a little more about what is happening.</p><p>Is it kicking the entire zone or just one person?  Is that person the only one left in the zone or are there others?</p><p>What activity are they doing?</p>

[guillero]

<p>probably *cough* AFK crafting *cough* <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Brigh]

<p>If someone is crafting then there is "activity", unless it is like the horrid auto afk system option you can check the box.</p><p>It is terrible. I will be crafting and it auto puts up the AFK along with the voice over for the AFK, but it will do it rapid-fire back to back while I am pushing buttons. It seems the qualifications for that auto-afk tag = you have to move a millimeter, and not just push buttons.</p>

[Wullail]

<p>Yes , it appears the system equates 'activity' as 'movement' , if you spend an hour crafting potions (not unheard of as I make the potions for guild raids) , you get kicked as being inactive.</p><p>If however your character moves a fraction of a step in that hour ,  you don't get kicked.</p><p>I've started moving a fraction back and forth after a batch of potions just to make sure...but it's annoying.</p>

[Blambil]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Tell me a little more about what is happening.</p><p>Is it kicking the entire zone or just one person?  Is that person the only one left in the zone or are there others?</p><p>What activity are they doing?</p></blockquote><p>I'll see if I can get more info.. it seems to have almost stopped in the last week.. Hoping you found something and patched..</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Blambil@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Tell me a little more about what is happening.</p><p>Is it kicking the entire zone or just one person?  Is that person the only one left in the zone or are there others?</p><p>What activity are they doing?</p></blockquote><p>I'll see if I can get more info.. it seems to have almost stopped in the last week.. Hoping you found something and patched..</p></blockquote><p>We haven't made any changes that would have fixed this that I'm aware of.</p><p>It's not just movement that measures activity, but also remote commands.  I'd have to look at the crafting process to see if it works entirely without sending a single command.  (I'd be surprised if that were the case)</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's not just movement that measures activity, but also remote commands.  I'd have to look at the crafting process to see if it works entirely without sending a single command.  (I'd be surprised if that were the case)</p></blockquote><p>Crafting involves /useability, wouldn't that be sufficient 'activity'?</p>

[Drtydog]

<p>you might try having someone auto run into a wall or something.   You may have to work at getting it to where they moved enough to keep the zone open.  </p><p>Seriously i don't understand this anyway.  How much useage could a guild hall be taking up in bandwidth or server activity especially T1 and T2 halls?   Or at least extend the time period in T1 and T2 halls since they are so small</p>

[Purr]

<p>I still had that problem as of yesterday on Test Server. Crafting and brokering don't seem to count as activity. the whole hall goes down and with it every char in it. In my case: Tier 1 Hall in NQ with 3/2 people in it.</p><p>Purr~</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's not just movement that measures activity, but also remote commands.  I'd have to look at the crafting process to see if it works entirely without sending a single command.  (I'd be surprised if that were the case)</p></blockquote><p>It might be possible, depending on what is measuring for activity. I know I've crafted in the past where the auto-AFK would mark me as AFK even while happily crafting away (since I wasn't using the keyboard, IIRC). But if it measures any kind of commands then I imagine crafting is activity -- the only case where it might not be is if the actual process of starting a combine and finishing it (ie the change of things in inventory) were not considered activity. But even that case is almost silly... who crafts without the abilities?</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's not just movement that measures activity, but also remote commands.  I'd have to look at the crafting process to see if it works entirely without sending a single command.  (I'd be surprised if that were the case)</p></blockquote><p>Crafting involves /useability, wouldn't that be sufficient 'activity'?</p></blockquote><p>Yep, any command like that is considered a remote command and would reset your "last activity" timer.  This should keep the zone up.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Crafting involves /useability, wouldn't that be sufficient 'activity'?</p></blockquote><p>Yep, any command like that is considered a remote command and would reset your "last activity" timer.  This should keep the zone up.</p></blockquote><p>Aye, thats what I figured, so someone getting dropped from zone or a zone reseting while crafting sounds like a bug of a different color.</p>

[Zenadina]

<p>A little info to add, I have auto afk on. If i craft just using my mouse to hit the reactions and change recipes, i'll go afk. If I craft using the keyboard number keys i dont go afk, which is how i usually craft anyhow.</p><p>Cloudrat always crafts using her mouse. She had the Guildhall poof on her twice when she was the only one in the hall while she was crafting.</p><p>Take what you will from that<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Wullail]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's not just movement that measures activity, but also remote commands.  I'd have to look at the crafting process to see if it works entirely without sending a single command.  (I'd be surprised if that were the case)</p></blockquote><p>Crafting involves /useability, wouldn't that be sufficient 'activity'?</p></blockquote><p>Yep, any command like that is considered a remote command and would reset your "last activity" timer.  This should keep the zone up.</p></blockquote><p>I was mid-craft the other day , craft a few items...afk , craft a few more , usually 5 minutes between crafting a couple of items , hadn't moved as I was just making potions....got kicked.</p><p>I always only craft using my mouse when static.</p><p>A previous session , I was doing writs , similar sort of thing...do part of / some writs and afk for 5-10 minutes....didn't get kicked at all even though I was in there much longer , I'm guessing because I was moving between the writ giver and the writing desk.</p>