How is the rnager class doing, been away for a bit.

[Lleren]

<p>I've been away the past few months, any sweet Ranger love in that time?  Or news of some in the coming expansion?</p>

[Eldrion]

<p>There's love in the new expansion.  Will be top of the dps food chain or even close to assassin like the classes were originally designed, prob not unless they boost our CA base dmg and auto atk.  So far, no rumors of this even being addressed.  They have tweaked quite a few other things that will benefit the class though and that shows signs of positive change.  So there is a sign of someone paying attention now and that is far more than we've had in a long time atleast compared to the past 2+ years.</p>

[Siphar]

<p>I'm not in beta but as far as I'm concerned, Rangers are still way behind assassin's in PvE terms... dps and utility-wise... and I have a feeling it will stay that way...</p>

[Siphar]

<p>If rangers lack the utility, as they certainly do, then they should be clearly number 1 DPS, which is clearly not the case. For single and even more so Ae encounters..</p><p>I read from the development team that Rangers are being fixed. All they said officially was that stream of arrows was being changed. But in what way? made into an ae? if it stops your auto attack, no one will use it unless you nuke for more damage versus auto attack, which isn't and hasn't been the case since they made auto attack so significant.</p><p>I would love to see focus aim back in for PvP.. why not?</p><p>Rangers were nerf'd badly in T7 and haven't recovered. SF xpac may help some, however, with teh changes to summoners and brawlers with SF, I think the time of the ranger may just have expired...</p>

[Eldrion]

<p>There are a lot of rumblings about betrayals or just flat out new mmo moves from the few class veterans left.  Not in Beta but have heard chat of some mechanic fixes like positive stream and some ae changes.  In comparison to other class boosts and the assasin upgrades, we may indeed be seeing the death throws of the class as people's patience is exhausted and raid forces need to fill slots <strong>with what the general game populace casually observe/perceive</strong> as more desirable scout classes.</p><p>That last comment is<strong> key</strong>, the class must be perceived by the rest of the player base as having equal value or desirablity to be included in groups and raids will not improve.</p><p>Even a status quo expansion to the class with basic mechanic fixes will not bring us back to top dps <strong>parity</strong> let alone utility,  which incomparison to other scout dps classes, like the brig, swash, and assassin does not exist or is insignificant.  We don't need a lot (ie base CA dmg increase, change primal to flat out hate transfer like every other scout has, make blame arrow actually work, change the defense debuff description to reflect the 39% defense debuff vs the "55" master debuff rating written into it), in addition to the SF boosts that are being developed.  That takes some focused/specific support from the Devs who have a variety of issues to address across the board.  Even the verbal committment to follow up in the GU after SF launch would be a boon for the population.</p>

[Upir]

<p>You wanna know how good or bad things are shaping up for rangers?  Join butcherblock.worldranger and listen to all the people actively or planning on betraying or switching mains...  The general sense that's going around from those that know the class is that while, yes, rangers are getting some attention in the coming expansion, the other scout dps (supposedly assassins esp.) are getting even more attention to the point where we're not expected to come out any further ahead, or possibly slide back even further... </p><p>Im not in beta.  I dont know anything for certain, but its a bad sign when those around who have, for a long time, been widely regarded as the class front runners from ww raiding guilds are swapping/betraying...  Maybe things will be changed before the exp. goes live, maybe not...  If you play casually, then I wouldn't read into it too much, but if you're a raider, gl...</p>

[Lleren]

<p>Yeah I saw a few names dat switched, am in tht channel =D</p><p>Had heard about a change to our autoattack and switchign between the two..but it looks like that never made it live, or at least not yet.</p>