GU 55 Testing

[Anestacia]

<p>Will GU 55 testing (specifically New Hallas, Frostfang and Thundering Steppes) be done by beta testers or will it hit the Test Server?  Or both?  Just sort of curious.</p>

[Sedenten]

<p>I hope they put what you mentioned plus any sweeping class changes (fighters, priests, summoners, etc.) on test rather than confine them to beta.  Any change being pushed out with an expansion that wouldn't necessarily require the expansion would be good to cook on the test servers where <em>any</em> player can access them and feedback rather than the lotto that is beta signup.</p><p>I can understand the New Halas and other zone changes being confined to beta for now since those are still directly involved with the new content but class changes especially should be tested in both beta as well as the public test server.</p><p>I know there's tons of people who play druids as mains who are hinging the future enjoyment of their class on what gets released with GU 55 for druids... It would be a shame if those same people never get to test and feedback those changes due to not being invited to beta to do so.</p>

[ShinGoku]

<p><cite>Koinoo@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I hope they put what you mentioned plus any sweeping class changes (fighters, priests, summoners, etc.) on test rather than confine them to beta.  Any change being pushed out with an expansion that wouldn't necessarily require the expansion would be good to cook on the test servers where <em>any</em> player can access them and feedback rather than the lotto that is beta signup.</p><p>I can understand the New Halas and other zone changes being confined to beta for now since those are still directly involved with the new content but class changes especially should be tested in both beta as well as the public test server.</p><p>I know there's tons of people who play druids as mains who are hinging the future enjoyment of their class on what gets released with GU 55 for druids... It would be a shame if those same people never get to test and feedback those changes due to not being invited to beta to do so.</p></blockquote><p>Its funny, I just started a thread about this in the general gameplay section.</p><p>Fomerly my monk was my main but he has been retired since the onset of tso.  Any upcoming changes (a ray of hope) that would actually make me play him again.</p>

[RaidenSF]

<p>Yeah I am pretty sure most, if not all, of this stuff is going to be for beta testers only.</p>

[Child]

<p><cite>RaidenSF wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah I am pretty sure most, if not all, of this stuff is going to be for beta testers only.</p></blockquote><p>new hallas is NOT a expansion zone, it's for EVERYONE when gu 55 comes out, so i'm 99.999% sure it'll be on test.</p><p>as for if it'll be in beta, not a clue.</p>

[RaidenSF]

<p>Yeah I was referring to all the class changes etc. not Halas.</p>

[Anestacia]

<p>We are a month away from release, still wondering will Halas and other GU55 things hit the Test Server, Beta Server or both and is there a time frame?</p>

[salty21db]

<p>This is a pretty simple question that is on my mind as well and has yet to be answered from what i can dig up.</p><p>Will GU55 be going on test or be going on beta?  This includes from what im aware of the quest helper, halas, battlegrounds, shaders 3.0 and will all those be going in with it on time?</p>

[woolf2k]

<p>last time there was a gu with an expansion. the beta testers tested it. </p><p>cause it couldn't be separated. I imagine it'll be the same case here. </p>

[Anestacia]

<p>Come on, I'm dying over here!</p>

[Rolande']

<p><cite>Jaine@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>last time there was a gu with an expansion. the beta testers tested it. </p><p>cause it couldn't be separated. I imagine it'll be the same case here. </p></blockquote><p> That doesnt sound right. I mean the people who dont buy the expansion still get gu55. How can that work IF they can't seperate them?</p>

[Seidhkona]

<p>I am pretty sure that New Halas isn't in the Beta. Like any other Game Update, it should likely be tested on Test.</p><p>I'm DYING to find out if we get kilts!!!</p>

[Kurindor_Mythecnea]

<p><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We are a month away from release, still wondering will Halas and other GU55 things hit the Test Server, Beta Server or both and is there a time frame?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">There doesn't seem to be...<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></span></p>

[salty21db]

<p>Ya know after dealing with Blizzard ive become a pretty hardcore SoE fanboi while only dealin with EQ1 and EQ2 (havent really seen the true bad side like most say with SWG).  This no response deal on this thread is makin me worry a bit since theres really no reason to be hush hush bout this subject.  As stated in another thread on the expansion listing there isnt much info about this patch, such as bg's, quest helper, shaders 3.0 (how they are coming along, i know there is another thread for them but i mean are they still on track and such), and halas.  I mean the least they could tell us whether it is gonna be on test or on beta and a date of release on either or?</p>

[woolf2k]

<p><cite>Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am pretty sure that New Halas isn't in the Beta. Like any other Game Update, it should likely be tested on Test.</p><p>I'm DYING to find out if we get kilts!!!</p></blockquote><p>come on. you've been around for awhile...since when does SOE do what "should" be done. LOL</p>

[Seidhkona]

<p>SOE follows a regular development process. Which means that once a dev has something done, it should go to internal QA. If they find bugs, it goes back to the devs for a fix, and so on. Then they turn it lose to player testers via Test Server or Beta Test.</p><p>If you don't see it here or in Beta, then chances are pretty good more work is being done on it.</p><p>And remember, different teams internally are responsible for different areas of the game. One team may have stuff ready to test while another isn't quite ready yet.</p><p>All these factors control when and what we get to see. You can't post a schedule of "This will go to test on X day" because it isn't certain if the development and in-house testing will be done by a particular day - it all depends on how difficult the development is and how many and what kind of bugs the internal QA find. This is normal anywhere that does software development.</p>

[Anestacia]

<p>And that makes perfect sense. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  However, I still cant help being anxious to find out more about Halas since I love the thought of an icy city and dying to see the more housing options!  I realize they are probably still working on it I just would like to know if its close to completion since we are about 3 weeks away from its release unless it is being delayed in which case would be nice to know to.</p>

[Crickett]

<p><cite>Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am pretty sure that New Halas isn't in the Beta. Like any other Game Update, it should likely be tested on Test.</p><p>I'm DYING to find out if we get kilts!!!</p></blockquote><p>I hope you get your Kilt Sigrdrifa...............do we know for sure that GU55 will come out on Feb. 16 (23) with SF yet?</p>

[Purr]

<p>Somewhat related: I'd really like to know when gu54 (quests) will be gone from Test. Can we assume (!!!) not before the 16th of Feb?</p><p>Purr~</p>

[Chikkin]

<p>with 25 days till GU55 can you say no to testing on test and yes to testing in beta? otherwise it would be on test already</p><p>Im offering to eat my hat</p>

[Nicolos]

<p><cite>Ennia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>with 25 days till GU55 can you say no to testing on test and yes to testing in beta? otherwise it would be on test already</p><p>Im offering to eat my hat</p></blockquote><p>It's not in either place atm, thus the concern.</p>

[Kamimura]

<p>I've been wondering about this, myself. I know they usually can't give an absolute word about this sort of thing, but it would be nice to see <em>something</em>...</p>

[Juravael]

<p><cite>Ennia wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>with 25 days till GU55 can you say no to testing on test and yes to testing in beta? otherwise it would be on test already</p><p>Im offering to eat my hat</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #99ccff; font-size: small;">When was it announced that GU#55 was coming in 25 days? That would put it being released with the preorder expansion release on Feb. 16th and I have not seen anything to confirm that. Now I am curious too...</span></p>

[salty21db]

<p>Why, why, why can i never find a frikkin quote to somethin i know i seen when i need it!</p><p>Somewhere within the last few months it was posted by a dev...i believe brenlo, though i dont remember exactly who had said that there 3 month update cycle was gonna be thrown off one update to make it so that they could have halas and such come out in patch form on the expansion day.</p><p>Also, battlegrounds within the 3 week re-sub program was listed to be released on feb 16th also which (since i cant find that frikkin quote either) was sposed to be with the patch not the expansion.</p>

[Kamimura]

<p><cite>Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small; color: #99ccff;">When was it announced that GU#55 was coming in 25 days? That would put it being released with the preorder expansion release on Feb. 16th and I have not seen anything to confirm that. Now I am curious too...</span></p></blockquote><p>The update is pretty tied in with the expansion, so when one goes live (even if it's limited access) I'd think the other would have to as well. Even if you added in another week to tie it to the 'actual' release, it's still cutting it rather close for testing.</p>

[guillero]

<p>Seeing how no dev has responded yet. I guess it's save to say we won't see GU55 on Test. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Jer</p>

[Raknid]

<p>I remember reading somewhere that someone had heard Domino say in the test channel that Halas was not going to be on test. Take that with one of those cattle size salt blocks though because it is just repeating what someone asserted to have heard her say.</p>

[Hawkmoons]

<p>That might be better to put it on beta, know it suxs for those not in beta, but there are more people to test it and it would be less strain to have it in 2 diffrent areas, but they better hurry or it is not making the x-pack date, heaven forbid they do not test it, lol.</p>

[Purrcey]

<p>Since Halas is not Expansion specific, but rather GU specific there is no reason it will be tested on beta. Also there is nothing that ties SF and Halas together. If it is tested it will be tested on Test server. If it doesnt appear on test in the next week then it is a good chance it will get pushed to a later GU.</p>

[Faedok]

<p>Just making a point here...</p><p>No matter if you purchase the expansion or not, the content comes down to you. Your key is what decides on if you can access that content. Therefore it's possible that GU#55 will *depend* on some things that are being developed for SF. In other words, they might not be able to roll GU #55 into Test without taking significant parts of SF with it. Perhaps not the content, but any engine enhancements and art resources that will be shared.</p>

[guillero]

<p><cite>Xorith@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just making a point here...</p><p>No matter if you purchase the expansion or not, the content comes down to you. Your key is what decides on if you can access that content. Therefore it's possible that GU#55 will *depend* on some things that are being developed for SF. In other words, they might not be able to roll GU #55 into Test without taking significant parts of SF with it. Perhaps not the content, but any engine enhancements and art resources that will be shared.</p></blockquote><p>The engine enhancements (SM3.0) are already on Test.</p><p>Jer</p>

[Chikkin]

<p>I take back everything I said, including eating hat /grins</p>

[Purrcey]

<p>Chikkin you need to put a little hot sauce on that hat...makes it go down easier.</p>