Sentinel's Fate beta signup feedback

[Kalthare]

<p>I don't know if this is the right forum for this, but: I've seen two problems in signing up for the Sentinel's Fate beta.</p><p>First, the NDA presented is incomplete. It breaks off in the middle of a word, and doesn't contain any actual non-disclosure statements.</p><p>Second, the confirmation page says "An e-mail has been sent to the e-mail address you have provided. Please open the e-mail and click on the link provided to verify your e-mail address. If you have not verified your e-mail address, you may be blocked from accessing future e-mails." However, the email that was sent to me didn't contain a verification link.</p>

[Avanya]

<p>My email didn't contain a verification link either.</p>

[vochore]

<p>i also never got a confermation e-mail even tho i got an e-mail telling me about the news and beta signup.</p><p>and yes i confirmed my e-mail adress was correct and even checked my junk mail at roadrunner to make sure it didnt get spamed.</p>

[Dirty Jack Rackham]

<p><cite>Kalthare wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>... First, the NDA presented is incomplete. It breaks off in the middle of a word, and doesn't contain any actual non-disclosure statements.</p><p>Second, the confirmation page says "An e-mail has been sent to the e-mail address you have provided. Please open the e-mail and click on the link provided to verify your e-mail address. If you have not verified your e-mail address, you may be blocked from accessing future e-mails." However, the email that was sent to me didn't contain a verification link.</p></blockquote><p>My experiences also.</p>

[Twisten]

<p>also had trouble with email sent...</p>

[schizolic]

<p>yeah, my email didnt have a link either.</p>

[ShinGoku]

<p>Same here also.</p>

[Thanriyon Arkhelt]

<p>Was the same for me.</p>

[Trulaf]

<p>Incomplete NDA?</p><p>Give me all of your secrets.</p>

[Hojoo01]

<p>I never got any sort of confirmation e-mail either... [Removed for Content] is up with this?</p>

[schizolic]

<p>any chance of an answer?  i know if past experience holds up i wont get selected for beta (only one you guys let me in was the one guaranteed with fanfaire, and even then not untill 2 weeks before launch).  but it would be nice to know my app at least went through.</p>

[RaidenSF]

<p>There was a replay last week that said if your email was already verified then you would not see the link in the email.  The  reply in the same forum as the beta announcement.</p>

[Kissen]

<p>When I login to my account and watch beta status it says:</p><p>Congratulations, you have been enrolled in this Beta!</p><p>You have succesfully enrolled in the Beta for this account. Please check your e-mail for information regarding this Beta. Thank you for your participation!</p><p>Problem is that I've recieved no mail with instructions. Have I been selected to beta test or not? If so where do I find more information on how to download the new client?</p>

[Noob1974]

<p><cite>Stads@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When I login to my account and watch beta status it says:</p><p>Congratulations, you have been enrolled in this Beta!</p><p>You have succesfully enrolled in the Beta for this account. Please check your e-mail for information regarding this Beta. Thank you for your participation!</p><p>Problem is that I've recieved no mail with instructions. Have I been selected to beta test or not? If so where do I find more information on how to download the new client?</p></blockquote><p>          Same here.</p><p>          I remember when i got my beta invite  last year, i got straight away the email with the client to download the beta</p><p>          version.</p>

[Dracodo]

<p><cite>Stads@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When I login to my account and watch beta status it says:</p><p>Congratulations, you have been enrolled in this Beta!</p><p>You have succesfully enrolled in the Beta for this account. Please check your e-mail for information regarding this Beta. Thank you for your participation!</p></blockquote><p>Same here</p>

[sirmoosealot]

<p><cite>Stads@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When I login to my account and watch beta status it says:</p><p>Congratulations, you have been enrolled in this Beta!</p><p>You have succesfully enrolled in the Beta for this account. Please check your e-mail for information regarding this Beta. Thank you for your participation!</p><p>Problem is that I've recieved no mail with instructions. Have I been selected to beta test or not? If so where do I find more information on how to download the new client?</p></blockquote><p>no that means you have signed up for it. which means ur in the pool of people who signed up and those who do get accepted get an email with instructions on how to download the client and everything you need.</p>

[Elepian]

<p>How do I check my Beta Status? I'm completely new to the betas never gotten to be brought into one- </p>

[Silvered]

<p>Same issues as well not sure what is going on but, everyone I spoke to who signed up had the same response. I'm ready to play when you are SOE...</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[SillentBane]

<p>same for me. no e-mail with link or something <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Sedenten]

<p>Was there mention anywhere of when the next wave of beta invites would be going out?  I remember Aeralik saying something about priest changes going in with the expansion and would really like to test those out and give feedback <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Not to mention testing the expansion, but there's quite a bit that seems to be going in not related to the expansion which is only being tested within beta...</p>

[Orthureon]

<p>If SOE had some more sense they would allow EVERYONE access to beta; sure to prevent all of the expansion being complete before it even launches they could either lock areas, limit leveling or limit playtime. I for one would be all for more testing. You KNOW as it stands they will bring in changes that people will hate or that are broken and then they will have to fix them. I suppose if they came out with a good product all at once they would have nothing else to do, besides (I dread to say) develop more content.</p><p>It is a shame, the only thing that motivated me to stay subscribed was the Beta. Now my account time is just ticking away. I think they will find others that feel the same way.</p>

[Gisallo]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If SOE had some more sense they would allow EVERYONE access to beta; sure to prevent all of the expansion being complete before it even launches they could either lock areas, limit leveling or limit playtime. I for one would be all for more testing. You KNOW as it stands they will bring in changes that people will hate or that are broken and then they will have to fix them. I suppose if they came out with a good product all at once they would have nothing else to do, besides (I dread to say) develop more content.</p><p>It is a shame, the only thing that motivated me to stay subscribed was the Beta. Now my account time is just ticking away. I think they will find others that feel the same way.</p></blockquote><p>Apparently rather than having months to sort it out they would rather wait for it to be pushed to test and then have a couple weeks at best to deal with the cries and screams. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Now that I have annoyed I do have one LITTLE request.  I am sure they have some sort of organized method of selecting who gets into BETA.  Could we at least get an e-mail that says "so sad you lose" or something?  I would rather be told I lost than sit in limbo not nowing if I may get selected in the future.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If SOE had some more sense they would allow EVERYONE access to beta; sure to prevent all of the expansion being complete before it even launches they could either lock areas, limit leveling or limit playtime. I for one would be all for more testing. You KNOW as it stands they will bring in changes that people will hate or that are broken and then they will have to fix them. I suppose if they came out with a good product all at once they would have nothing else to do, besides (I dread to say) develop more content.</p><p>It is a shame, the only thing that motivated me to stay subscribed was the Beta. Now my account time is just ticking away. I think they will find others that feel the same way.</p></blockquote><p>If everyone was allowed into beta, then it wouldn't be a beta anymore.</p><p><cite>Galibier@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Could we at least get an e-mail that says "so sad you lose" or something?</p></blockquote><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Orthureon]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If SOE had some more sense they would allow EVERYONE access to beta; sure to prevent all of the expansion being complete before it even launches they could either lock areas, limit leveling or limit playtime. I for one would be all for more testing. You KNOW as it stands they will bring in changes that people will hate or that are broken and then they will have to fix them. I suppose if they came out with a good product all at once they would have nothing else to do, besides (I dread to say) develop more content.</p><p>It is a shame, the only thing that motivated me to stay subscribed was the Beta. Now my account time is just ticking away. I think they will find others that feel the same way.</p></blockquote><p>If everyone was allowed into beta, then it wouldn't be a beta anymore.</p></blockquote><p>Sure it would make it a limited amount of time for everyone, and have a closed beta for the stupid lotto drawings. If the massive amount of flaws at release of expansions/GUs is any indication of how people DO NOT feedback. It would be best to get in people that will test out everything. The more testing the better is all that I am getting at.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The more testing the better is all that I am getting at.</p></blockquote><p>Definatly.</p>

[Elepian]

<p>has anyone received emails with the beta download link yet? Status still says </p><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Congratulations, you have been enrolled in this Beta!</p><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">You have succesfully enrolled in the Beta for this account. Please check your e-mail for information regarding this Beta. Thank you for your participation!</p><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Still no information for me yet.. <crosses fingers and hopes he gets in> </p><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> </p>

[Dirty Jack Rackham]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>... If the massive amount of flaws at release of expansions/GUs is any indication of how people DO NOT feedback. It would be best to get in people that will test out everything. The more testing the better is all that I am getting at.</p></blockquote><p>Just hold on there a minute partner... Don't blame the people on test or those who beta test the expansions. I've seen many posts from these people over the years stating that they do, in fact, report all kinds of issues that are inevitably still present at the launch of the LU/beta. Throwing more people at the beta won't change the fact that the LU/expansions are rushed out the door due to time constraints on the Devs. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Solarax]

<p><cite>Dirty Jack Rackham wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>... If the massive amount of flaws at release of expansions/GUs is any indication of how people DO NOT feedback. It would be best to get in people that will test out everything. The more testing the better is all that I am getting at.</p></blockquote><p>Just hold on there a minute partner... Don't blame the people on test or those who beta test the expansions. I've seen many posts from these people over the years stating that they do, in fact, report all kinds of issues that are inevitably still present at the launch of the LU/beta. Throwing more people at the beta won't change the fact that the LU/expansions are rushed out the door due to time constraints on the Devs. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>orthureon has a point. up until this beta i have been in every single beta and i on a regular basis /bug and /feedback on my accounts but i see tons of people that are just there to see what its like early. while there is nothing wrong with that durring stress testing the people that need to be there in the early phases arnt . OK i mean not as many but you see what im getting at.</p><p>we all know the devs have a hard and thankless job but we also know that their work would be easier if they had more quality responses and if they so they could more easily prioritize what gets fixed but hey , all know its a balancing act.</p>

[Gandrian]

<p>idont become the mail why????</p><p>i was rolled for the beta but no mail i become</p>

[schizolic]

<p>would be nice to at least see a dev responce, did we get a bugged email and need to sign up again, or what.  heck, i know people who have gotten invites for their main and 2 other alt accts.</p>

[Hamervelder]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If the massive amount of flaws at release of expansions/GUs is any indication of how people DO NOT feedback. It would be best to get in people that will test out everything.</p></blockquote><p>You're incorrect.  During the last four expansions, we've provided massive amounts of feedback during beta.  The beta forums overflow with complaints, suggestion, rants, raves ... you name it.  Beta testers can't catch every flaw though.  Sometimes even when things do get reported over and over, the devs just don't change things.  I also invite you to play on the test server if you really want to test things; Test is open to everyone, and you can even copy your main to Test Copy if you want.  You can feedback to your heart's content there.  In the mean time, I doubt that insulting other players and the developers with your ill-informed opinions will somehow grant you beta access.</p><p>The folks that are confused, maybe you've missed something in the initial e-mail that looks like this:</p><hr /><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Hello xxxxx,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">We would like to thank you for registering for the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta. Beta testing is important to each product launch, and your help is greatly appreciated. Currently, beta is scheduled to begin on December 8^th, 2009. The date of our beta program is subject to change. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>If you are selected to participate in the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta, an acceptance email will be sent to this email address.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Thanks,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p> <p><span style="font-size: x-small;">The EverQuest® II Development Team</span></p><hr /><p>Please see the bold/underlined/italic portion.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  That should be pretty self-explanatory.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>If you are selected to participate in the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta, an acceptance email will be sent to this email address.</strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote><p>I think what people are complaining about is the lack of an e-mail saying that they are not accepted.  But I don't think it even works like that anyways since they don't select everyone for beta at the same time but gradually over time select more people.</p>

[Dirty Jack Rackham]

<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 11px;"><strong><em>... Off topic comment deleted, nothing further to add to the conversation ...</em></strong></span></span></p>

[Noob1974]

<p>I think for most raiders, like me, its important to see and actively influence the way classes go in T9 with new KOS, EOF and TSO Endline abilities as well as changes to T9 CA's and spells. Thats why i want to participate  in beta.</p><p>Dont get me wrong i go through content aswell and feedback anything as i did in the last beat, that i think is not working.</p>

[Hamervelder]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>If you are selected to participate in the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta, an acceptance email will be sent to this email address.</strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote><p>I think what people are complaining about is the lack of an e-mail saying that they are not accepted.  But I don't think it even works like that anyways since they don't select everyone for beta at the same time but gradually over time select more people.</p></blockquote><p>Logic would dictate that if you don't get an acceptance e-mail, then you haven't been selected.  Wouldn't it?</p>

[schizolic]

<p><cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If the massive amount of flaws at release of expansions/GUs is any indication of how people DO NOT feedback. It would be best to get in people that will test out everything.</p></blockquote><p>You're incorrect.  During the last four expansions, we've provided massive amounts of feedback during beta.  The beta forums overflow with complaints, suggestion, rants, raves ... you name it.  Beta testers can't catch every flaw though.  Sometimes even when things do get reported over and over, the devs just don't change things.  I also invite you to play on the test server if you really want to test things; Test is open to everyone, and you can even copy your main to Test Copy if you want.  You can feedback to your heart's content there.  In the mean time, I doubt that insulting other players and the developers with your ill-informed opinions will somehow grant you beta access.</p><p>The folks that are confused, maybe you've missed something in the initial e-mail that looks like this:</p><hr /><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Hello xxxxx,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">We would like to thank you for registering for the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta. Beta testing is important to each product launch, and your help is greatly appreciated. Currently, beta is scheduled to begin on December 8^th, 2009. The date of our beta program is subject to change. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>If you are selected to participate in the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta, an acceptance email will be sent to this email address.</strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Thanks,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;">The EverQuest® II Development Team</span></p><hr /><p>Please see the bold/underlined/italic portion.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  That should be pretty self-explanatory.</p></blockquote><p>actually, when you sign up for the beta there is supposed to be a link in that email to click on to verify your email address, and there was no link present in the email.</p>

[Solarax]

<p>supposed to?</p><p>yes that is how it has been done before but as was stated by a dev earlier it is not in the mail itself and it does tell you you can go to the site and re verify but it is not neccessary not forcing you to do so.</p><p>im still waiting for my acceptance btw kiara <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Gisallo]

<p><cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em><strong>If you are selected to participate in the EverQuest® II Sentinel's Fate beta, an acceptance email will be sent to this email address.</strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote><p>I think what people are complaining about is the lack of an e-mail saying that they are not accepted.  But I don't think it even works like that anyways since they don't select everyone for beta at the same time but gradually over time select more people.</p></blockquote><p>Logic would dictate that if you don't get an acceptance e-mail, then you haven't been selected.  Wouldn't it?</p></blockquote><p>Yes IF it was simply a "x number of people will be selected by date y" proposition.  This is not the case though.  Through some sort of mysterious process they gradually "ramp up" the number of beta players that are not sure fire Fan Faire invites (a thing I have issue with because it rewards people simply for paying money really to attend an event, not actually showing a history of contructive /bug /feedback and I thought Betas were there to work the bugs out of things not to reward fan bois). </p><p>My guess is they do a rolling lottery process like jury selection.  They get to a certain section of the queue, select and when its time to select more then you move onto the next queue section when its time to select more.  Because of this it would be nice to know if they have passed your queue.  Is it necessary?  No likely not, but simply because something is not necessary does not make it unappreciated or preferred either. </p>

[Kalthare]

<p>I see there's been a lot of discussion of the email issue, but I'm actually a lot more concerned with the incomplete NDA. I think SOE ought to be concerned about that as well: I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that you can't be held to any terms that they <em>meant</em> to put in but for some reason <em>didn't.</em></p><p>In short, anybody who signed up for the beta didn't actually agree not to disclose anything.</p>

[Divakitten]

<p>I think the issue people are concerned about is that they are not receiving any email at all, including the initial one that is supposed to confirm that you signed up. I signed up and never got any email of any kind, even though my address is confirmed when I sign in to my account. This same thing happened when I made a refer-a-friend account a couple of months ago. It was supposed to send an email with a link for the "friend" but it never did/or I never got it. I use roadrunner for email, so maybe there is some kind of problem with roadrunner accounts...</p>

[Yongqi]

<p>Here is something funny... When invites went out to more people yesterday for beta, some of the people that were chosen before got another email saying they were accepted again.</p>

[Dirty Jack Rackham]

<div><p><cite>Kalthare wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><em>I don't know if this is the right forum for this, but: I've seen two problems in signing up for the Sentinel's Fate beta.</em></p><p><em>First, the NDA presented is incomplete. It breaks off in the middle of a word, and doesn't contain any actual non-disclosure statements.</em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: small;">Second, the confirmation page says "An e-mail has been sent to the e-mail address you have provided. <strong>Please open the e-mail and click on the link provided to verify your e-mail address</strong>. If you have not verified your e-mail address, you may be blocked from accessing future e-mails." However, the email that was sent to me didn't contain a verification link.</span></em></p><div><span style="color: #000000; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="color: #444444; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 11px;"></span></span></span></span></div></blockquote></div><p><cite><span style="color: #ffffff;">Divakitten wrote:</span></cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">I think the issue people are concerned about is that they are not receiving any email at all, including the initial one that is supposed to confirm that you signed up. ...</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #888888;">No, our concern lies in the fact that the signup directs us to open the email and then click on a nonexistent link to verify our email address. It then states that if we don't verify our email addresses, we may be blocked from participating in the beta. As there is no link to click on to verify our email address, we are concerned that we will not meet the requirements to participate in the beta.</span></span></p>

[Melfius]

<p>Yet ANOTHER beta I didn't get in on!</p>

[Silvered]

<p>Just got an invite to both of my accounts at the same time today so it looks like they are doing another round of Beta invites so don't get all depressed a Beta invite maybe on the way...</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[bluefish]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If SOE had some more sense they would allow EVERYONE access to beta; sure to prevent all of the expansion being complete before it even launches they could either lock areas, limit leveling or limit playtime. I for one would be all for more testing. You KNOW as it stands they will bring in changes that people will hate or that are broken and then they will have to fix them. I suppose if they came out with a good product all at once they would have nothing else to do, besides (I dread to say) develop more content.</p><p>It is a shame, the only thing that motivated me to stay subscribed was the Beta. Now my account time is just ticking away. I think they will find others that feel the same way.</p></blockquote><p>Don't they do this like a week or two before it goes live?  I think it's called open beta?</p>

[Ironfeld]

<p>so, after all the gripes and complaints. is an 11hr download typical? thanks and bu bye</p>

[schizolic]

<p>copy your eq2 folders into the beta folder and the download time drops drastically.</p><p>and wow, giving people multiple invites on same accts or different accts and still cant address those of us who did not get the link to confirm our email...</p>

[jrolla777]

<p><cite>Dirty Jack Rackham wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><em><span style="font-size: small;"></span></em><p><span style="color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #888888;">No, our concern lies in the fact that the signup directs us to open the email and then click on a nonexistent link to verify our email address. It then states that if we don't verify our email addresses, we may be blocked from participating in the beta. As there is no link to click on to verify our email address, we are concerned that we will not meet the requirements to participate in the beta.</span></span></p></blockquote><p>This is my concern as well. I recieved once email when i signed up last month. That email had no links in it.</p><p>Help a borther out Kiara, lemme get an invite pls <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Melfius]

<p>Nope.  Still no invite.  Been playing for many years now, and have NEVER gotten an invite to a beta.  I must not be good enough.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Krooner]

<p>just a thought but why dont they use the regular signin client to register users for beta and also for notifying for acceptance.</p><p>It really wouldnt be that hard to build a small app into the client.  When you sign it your verifying your account details.</p><p>You get a notification that signup for beta is open please click here.  It registers your info and sends it the signup roster.</p><p>If your approved you get an alert and maybe even an ingame mail letting your know along with any regular email trails.</p>

[woolf2k]

<p>cause of 'El Nino' ... it always causes problems.</p>

[Ironfeld]

<p>ok</p>

[woolf2k]

<p><cite>Ironfeld@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ok, dont want to break the NDA, not that i am posting in here but...  I got a beta invite, made the new EQ2 beta folder, made the shortcut, i think.  Everytime i try to download it creates files on my desktop screen and i'm not sure where the files are going to even though i unzipped the file to my eq2 beta folder.  Taking up HUGE amts of space on my hard drive and i'm about ready to give up on it altogether even though i want to get in and give feedback.  I play a ton and am hoping maybe something i say will be listened to and taken into acct for this next expansion.  I raid, group, solo all that stuff.  I don't want the game to die and need some help.  Thanks guys, plz post with whatever i'm doing wrong.</p></blockquote><p>dude, you make no sense what so ever... you say one thing and then you say you do the oposite... </p><p>oh well... you should post in the beta forums anyway... I'm sure they'll be able to help you there.</p>

[Ironfeld]

<p>Ok, that made no sense to me.  Not sure what your saying i am doing the opposite of.  Whatever.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Jaine@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ironfeld@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ok, dont want to break the NDA, not that i am posting in here but...  I got a beta invite, made the new EQ2 beta folder, made the shortcut, i think.  Everytime i try to download it creates files on my desktop screen and i'm not sure where the files are going to even though i unzipped the file to my eq2 beta folder.  Taking up HUGE amts of space on my hard drive and i'm about ready to give up on it altogether even though i want to get in and give feedback.  I play a ton and am hoping maybe something i say will be listened to and taken into acct for this next expansion.  I raid, group, solo all that stuff.  I don't want the game to die and need some help.  Thanks guys, plz post with whatever i'm doing wrong.</p></blockquote><p>dude, you make no sense what so ever... you say one thing and then you say you do the oposite... </p><p>oh well... you should post in the beta forums anyway... I'm sure they'll be able to help you there.</p></blockquote><p>Telling people you're in beta isn't breaking the NDA.</p><p>As of the other day I have gotten my <em>third</em> beta invite. (I only have one account)</p>

[woolf2k]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jaine@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ironfeld@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ok, dont want to break the NDA, not that i am posting in here but...  I got a beta invite, made the new EQ2 beta folder, made the shortcut, i think.  Everytime i try to download it creates files on my desktop screen and i'm not sure where the files are going to even though i unzipped the file to my eq2 beta folder.  Taking up HUGE amts of space on my hard drive and i'm about ready to give up on it altogether even though i want to get in and give feedback.  I play a ton and am hoping maybe something i say will be listened to and taken into acct for this next expansion.  I raid, group, solo all that stuff.  I don't want the game to die and need some help.  Thanks guys, plz post with whatever i'm doing wrong.</p></blockquote><p>dude, you make no sense what so ever... you say one thing and then you say you do the oposite... </p><p>oh well... you should post in the beta forums anyway... I'm sure they'll be able to help you there.</p></blockquote><p>Telling people you're in beta isn't breaking the NDA.</p><p>As of the other day I have gotten my <em>third</em> beta invite. (I only have one account)</p></blockquote><p>I couldn't careless whether it was breaking NDA...I was telling him he should post in the beta forums cause those people are dealing with installing the beta software and since they are dealing with that then they are more fit to answer his installation questions about it</p>

[Dirty Jack Rackham]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>As of the other day I have gotten my <em>third</em> beta invite. (I only have one account)</p></blockquote><p>You've gotten three invites for <em>this</em> beta? Nice. Others have stated that they have also gotten multiple invitations to this beta. Wonderful. Typical incompetent approval process. Some people get multiple invitations for the current beta while others, who have been playing for years, have never been invited into a beta. I would really like to know who's running the department that decides who gets in and who doesn't. Not to mention tracking who has already received an invitation. Probably a former employee of Apple's iPhone app approval board. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /></p>

[larbr]

<p>Okies i didnt get a link to verify my emai either but today i got a Beta invite for one of my accounts for those of u who didnt get the link to verify your email dont worry there is hope</p>

[Vymm]

<p>Still waiting to have my char copied over anyone know how long it takes and when is the next scheduled time for chars to be copied over? Is there some sort of confirmation email when it's done or do I just have to keep checking?</p>

[Katonka]

<p>Seems like I have been waiting forever too...the anticipation is driving me crazy...I check my email atleast 10 times a day(yes,I have a very dull life atm,lol) but I hear about people who signed up well after me getting multiple invites <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Sonnyb0y]

<p>I believe they were just finding out who was interested in signing up for it. I recently got my email with a download link for the Beta but the last several days it shows the server as being down. The Char select screen shows everything as Red and in a "Down" status.</p><p>Any idea when the server will be up?  I did a /copy to copy my char over for the beta server and it shows up when I sign in.  Am I missing something here?</p><p>Sonnyboy 80 Coercer</p>

[Finalduke]

<p>For everyone saying that it says you got in, you got into the pool to be selected it doesn't mean you got selected unless you get the actual download emial.</p><p>I got the same though i believe this new process can be good but more bad.  Lots of hardcore players didn't get an invite when new players i know of 4 that even stopped playing got in it.  From having accounts since day 1 I would think that we should get loyalty advantage but im sure they learned from it with the amount and emails and posts I have seen.  Not saying those people are better but usually they have higher chars, multiple accounts and more interest in a new level cap.  Eh just my 2 cents good luck to everyone!</p>

[Gneaux]

<p>I got my original email. then actually got 2 emails the othe day with the download link, and the instructions for the download. Prior to the download I /beta add my 3 characters I wanted copied to beta, 1 from Test server and 2 from Nagafen. It was all in all about a 3 1/2 hour download, following the instructions to the letter . Once I logged in to character select on Beta I noticed that the server for characters copied said "DOWN" in big red letters. I am wondering if I have to "create" a toon on beta for my characters to show up like I did on test.</p>

[Katonka]

<p>I'm kind of sittin here scratching my head wondering why our Welcome to EQ2 message of the day is still saying its not too late to sign up for beta yet there are SO many people who have been signed up for a month now who still have not been accepted.Can we not let those who have been signed up for awhile get in?</p>

[rupesabot]

<p>Can anyone point me to an official beta board? I got into beta, and got the email with the download link. when i go to play it says I dont have an account. wondering if I should have gor a key or something or if I am having bigger issues here. thanks</p>

[hTc_Hadm]

i got another question about the signups, i got a mail that i was accepted into it, but i cant log in cause subscription has ended, do i really need to pay subscription for a Beta?

[Chikkin]

<p><cite>hTc_Hadmin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>i got another question about the signups, i got a mail that i was accepted into it, but i cant log in cause subscription has ended, do i really need to pay subscription for a Beta?</blockquote><p>yes you need a valid subscription to get past login server, no matter on which server (beta or not) you're trying to play</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"> <span><span style="color: #ffffff;"> </span></span><p>as for a quick test if you are in beta or not, sign in to these very forums on eq2players.com with the account you used to sign up for beta and check if you see  Sentinel's Fate  Beta section on top, if you don't see it  you are not accepted yet, if you see it click there and read instructions what to do to start playing in beta</p></p>

[hTc_Hadm]

<p>i got the mail with the beta sownloadlink and infos, but as i said i dont have the sub, so no beta for me then... silly really, who pays for a beta? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p>