What Summoner Improvements Can We Look Forward To?

[Seidhkona]

<p>I keep seeing hints in threads here and there that summoner improvements are in the works, but I've just spent a fruitless hour trying to find what we're expecting to see and when we might possibly see it.</p><p>I thought I'd ask and see if we could collect links to the parent posts on these improvements and fixes, just as a point from which we can offer up incense and sacrifice chickens to the gods to help encourage the arrival of said fixes! Well, at least so we can dream about 'em!</p><p>I've seen Sess's stickied thread on broken stuff that needs fixing. I'm more considering what rumored fixes are in the works.</p><p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=512724109" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/souls/GullveigSig.jpg" width="500" height="150" /></a></p>

[acctlc]

<p>I'm a little concerned at this point if we'll see any serious revamp at all.  The producers letter confirms that things like the fighter revamp and item degradation have been scrapped at this point.  2 months before an xpac is due to be released is not a good time to be hearing that they are backing away from sweeping changes that they announced at fanfaire (granted the fighter revamp was never promised but was said it would be revisited).  So, now that Aeralik is presumably out, will the much needed summoner loving also get tossed aside...to be re-examined by whoever is the replacement, while we sit by another xpac without group/raid viability.  I hope not but at this point..I'm quite concerned.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I keep seeing hints in threads here and there that summoner improvements are in the works, but I've just spent a fruitless hour trying to find what we're expecting to see and when we might possibly see it.</p><p>I thought I'd ask and see if we could collect links to the parent posts on these improvements and fixes, just as a point from which we can offer up incense and sacrifice chickens to the gods to help encourage the arrival of said fixes! Well, at least so we can dream about 'em!</p><p>I've seen Sess's stickied thread on broken stuff that needs fixing. I'm more considering what rumored fixes are in the works.</p><p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=512724109" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/souls/GullveigSig.jpg" width="500" height="150" /></a></p></blockquote><p>I wouldnt hold my breath on anything anymore with  changes in who balances classes.People have been pushing for fixes for  2+ years now.....so i guess yeah you can sacrifice some chickens</p>

[Seidhkona]

<p>From the <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive_content.vm?id=3370&section=News&locale=en_US" target="_blank">Sixth Year Vet Rewards article</a>:</p><p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/features/articles/gu54/vetrewards/call_of_the_veteran.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/features/articles/gu54/vetrewards/call_of_the_veteran_th.jpg" border="0" width="250" height="250" /></a></p> <p><em>Never be left behind again! This trinket will allow you to teleport to a group member, bypassing those boat trips.</em></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=463788#5171639" target="_blank"><cite>Rothgar wrote</cite></a> (in the Presenting – Sixth Year Vet Rewards thread):</p><blockquote><p>The teleporter actually has two functions.  First it summons a portal that only you can see.  Right-clicking the portal gives you two options.  One option is to port to a group member anywhere in the world.  The second option is to summon a group member from anywhere in the world to your location.  Once you use an option the portal goes away.  I think the recast time on it is 60 minutes.</p><p>Yes, this works across zones and yes it works in dungeons.  A player must meet the requirements for the zone before they can be summoned to you.  So this means they have to have access to the zone and can't possess a lockout timer for another instance of that zone.  Our goal with the summoning ability was to allow veterans to share the "coolness" of this item with other players that might not have it yet.</p><p>Yes, the feature was a PITA to create.  We hope you like it though.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=463788#5171689" target="_blank"><cite>Rothgar wrote</cite></a> (later in the thread):</p><blockquote><p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>WTB Conjuror ability to do that.</p></blockquote><p>We had the same thoughts, but no promises.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote>

[Lady Shai]

<p>Ok, ya its a nice item. But I think I must be the only one who feels a little !!!!!! at the  COTH reward? To me it feels like they just ripped a class skill from us, a defining skill for the class and gave to everyone.</p><p>I am tired atm and maybe I am just not seeing what is so great about this. Yes I know the people who arent conji's are all yay, and I understand that. But being a conji... well it just seems to me that it is not a good thing. I can only hope that since they are obviously going thru with this that they give us an upgrade to CoTH.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Patience is a virtue, I say.</p>

[Mordith]

<p><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #beb8b8;">":::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Summoner pets are 1/3 the dps of a summoner and yet our stats and modifiers do not affect them.Since a pet is 1/3 a summoners dps,a summoner receives 2/3 benifit from gear when compared to any other class. </span><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong><span style="font-size: xx-small;">SHARED STATS AND MODIFIERS ARE A MUST! </span><span style="font-size: large;">FIX SUMMONERS IN 10!"</span> </strong></span></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><span><span style="color: #ffffff;">Bigron, I fixed your signature for the new year. No need to thank me.</span></span></p>

[Gormak]

<p>really, just givup hoping.</p><p>Makedo with what we are (a combat active plushie) , roll an enchanter, or get a new game.</p><p>These are our options.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Lady Shai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am tired atm and maybe I am just not seeing what is so great about this.</p></blockquote><p>Oh since it  ignores zonelines...you basically have the gm ability to summon self to player throughout the world.</p><p>Also you can summon the person to you  or teleport   to them.</p><p>One of best items in game imo.</p><p>Hopefully  CoTH will be upgraded to summon people regardless what zone they are in....id bet we will see that.</p><p>And to Mordith thanks for the sig upgrade friend!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[thog_zork]

<p>this "effect" attached to coth would be indeed nice .. however does it gurantee a raid / group spot i really doubt it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>iam uber curious how the plan to fix us now that their plan once again changed</p>

[Lady Shai]

<p><cite>Bigron@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lady Shai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am tired atm and maybe I am just not seeing what is so great about this.</p></blockquote><p>Oh since it  ignores zonelines...you basically have the gm ability to summon self to player throughout the world.</p><p>Also you can summon the person to you  or teleport   to them.</p><p>One of best items in game imo.</p><p>Hopefully  CoTH will be upgraded to summon people regardless what zone they are in....id bet we will see that.</p><p>And to Mordith thanks for the sig upgrade friend!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>No, I know that Bigron.  I totally understand why people are ooo and ahhh over it. It really is a nice  thing they did. BUT to me it still feels like a slap in the face. I mean with all the other CoH type of stuff out there....and now this, just makes me a bit ticked off that it is for everyone to get.</p><p>I am just a bit grrrr about the state we are in for our class, and to see a change I and others have asked for for years be finally implemented in game (after being told it was not able to be done) and then given to everyone Level 1 on up as a veteran reward just burns me a tad. I could stomach it better I think if it werea quested thing, or a drop, but for Level 1's to get it? </p><p>I can't do anything about it,....I will just live with it.  But I am still not happy with how they are doing this.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>I'm going to say it again. Patience is a virtue. Wait for the expansion's NDA to be lifted before jumping to conclusions.</p><p>Historically that's always been the best course of action.</p>

[Nimbrithil]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Patience is a virtue, I say.</p></blockquote><p>As one vulture once said to another "Patience hell, I'm gona kill something!"</p><p>We ahve been the forgotten often beaten step children on Eq for far too long.</p><p>Fix sommoners Dev's or prepare to feel our wrath,</p><p>/look at conji spell database</p><p>Ok so maybe not butthe thought was there</p>

[Lantis]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm going to say it again. Patience is a virtue. Wait for the expansion's NDA to be lifted before jumping to conclusions.</p><p>Historically that's always been the best course of action.</p></blockquote><p>Can't blame people to be running out of patience however after two years of wait <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[mykei]

<p>the wait-and-see method that xalmat suggests is used to minupulate people, you will NEVER get anything with wait-and-see.</p><p>keep with the suggestions and comments about this class, the more requests the better the chance someone will see it and bring it up in a design meeting!</p><p>while you are waiting get your myth and T2 gear, it's the only way your going to get groups and have fun with the conjuror.</p>

[agnott]

<p> Look at the way Xalmat tells you to be patient.  I think he is doing more than just giving you simple advice.</p><p>Just my theory.</p>

[Kalin]

<p><cite>agnott wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> Look at the way Xalmat tells you to be patient.  I think he is doing more than just giving you simple advice.</p><p>Just my theory.</p></blockquote><p>I got that feeling too. I think Xalmat knows something, but can't tell us because of the NDA on SF beta. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Ellestil]

<p>I just got back after a 3 yr hiatus and still see conjy posts saying we need help. Still see Xalmut and Bigron here as well, hello! I left at level 70 after the KOS expansion, so have alot of catching up to do. Look forward to any positive changes as I've always enjoyed this class.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Kalin@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>agnott wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> Look at the way Xalmat tells you to be patient.  I think he is doing more than just giving you simple advice.</p><p>Just my theory.</p></blockquote><p>I got that feeling too. I think Xalmat knows something, but can't tell us because of the NDA on SF beta. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>La La La La La ....Be patient....La La La La La</p><p>Yeah bout all that can be said lol.</p>

[Kalin]

<p>Anyone have an inkling as to when the NDA will be lifted?</p>

[hellfire]

<p>useually 2 weeks befor xpack goes live...so in like a month</p>