Very old computer bet than the new.

[Man_with_no_name]

<p>Hi, somehow my old computer is better than my new one.</p><p>The old one is bought in 2003. P4 prescott/HT, 3ghz cpu. 2gb ddr3200ram,x800pro gfx card, sata hdd 200gb. winxp home.</p><p>The new one is:Acer laptop aspire 5530g. Turion xdual core 2ghz, 2ghz drr2ram. Vista home.</p><p>I dont get it I thought 2hgz dual core was supposed to perform like 4ghz single core?</p><p>Im thinking of getting winxp again for my old comp, changing the cooler fans so I can play on it again. Havent used it in 6months now. But I could run EQ2 better iirc.</p><p>And just how good a computer do I need to run EQ2 in high settings? 3ghz dual core or quadcore?</p>

[Trellium]

<p><cite>Man_with_no_name wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I dont get it I thought 2hgz dual core was supposed to perform like 4ghz single core?</p></blockquote><p>Nope. Speed is speed, and EQ2 uses a second core somewhat but it's not a balanced load. EQ2 responds well to fast CPU's and fast Ram, and although the graphics card makes a difference the game really doesn't push a lot onto the GPU at this time.</p>

[DarkDragon66]

<p><cite>Man_with_no_name wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span >The old one is bought in 2003. P4 prescott/HT, 3ghz cpu. 2gb ddr3200ram,x800pro gfx card, sata hdd 200gb. winxp home.</span></p><p>The new one is:Acer laptop aspire 5530g. Turion xdual core 2ghz, 2ghz drr2ram. Vista home.</p><p>I dont get it I thought 2hgz dual core was supposed to perform like 4ghz single core?</p><p>Im thinking of getting winxp again for my old comp, changing the cooler fans so I can play on it again. Havent used it in 6months now. But I could run EQ2 better iirc.</p><p>And just how good a computer do I need to run EQ2 in high settings? 3ghz dual core or quadcore?</p></blockquote><p>Hiya, EQ2 tends to utilize almost elusively one core of a processor at this time, so unfortunately you have actually downgraded your processor by 1ghz, and the newer memory architecture of the processor can't make up for the gap in a game like EQ2.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>I dont get it I thought 2hgz dual core was supposed to perform like 4ghz single core? </em></span></p><p><em></em>This is partially right, in a game or application that makes complete use of multicore processors, since EQ2 does not, the most of a benefit you will get is EQ2 using one core while everything else uses the other one.</p><p>You may do good to use your other computer for EQ2 if it performs much better.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>And just how good a computer do I need to run EQ2 in high settings? 3ghz dual core or quadcore?</em></span></p><p>If you are going to use a multicored processor for EQ2 I can only say to over kill it, as fast as you can buy, as that is what this game seems to need.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p>Besides what everyone else has mentioned, the processors you're comparing are in different classes.  The Prescott 3Ghz is a power hungry, performance-focused desktop CPU.  The Turion is generally a laptop CPU designed for a balance of performance and low power consumption.  The Turion certainly isn't a bad chip, but I wouldn't say that it is designed for gaming like your older Intel chip.</p>

[entrailsgalore2]

<p><cite>Man_with_no_name wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi, somehow my old computer is better than my new one.</p><p>The old one is bought in 2003. P4 prescott/HT, 3ghz cpu. 2gb ddr3200ram,x800pro gfx card, sata hdd 200gb. winxp home.</p><p>The new one is:Acer laptop aspire 5530g. Turion xdual core 2ghz, 2ghz drr2ram. Vista home.</p><p>I dont get it I thought 2hgz dual core was supposed to perform like 4ghz single core?</p><p>Im thinking of getting winxp again for my old comp, changing the cooler fans so I can play on it again. Havent used it in 6months now. But I could run EQ2 better iirc.</p><p>And just how good a computer do I need to run EQ2 in high settings? 3ghz dual core or quadcore?</p></blockquote><p>Are you sure you bought it in 2003? Because the ATI X800 cards weren't released until june 2004, after the nVidia 6800's which were release I believe late april, early may 2004. Also I think the prescott P4's weren't released to early 2004, atleast the 3GHz version anyways.</p><p>Here are a few things you need to understand:</p><p>1. The EQ2 engine is a CPU resource hog. It was coded with the intention of Single core proccessors to just keep getting faster, not  going multi core. So even though going multi core IS an upgrade, the EQ2 engine sees it as a slower CPU, that is just the way the engine works. Plus the AMD Turion's are budget CPU's, so they aren't CPU's meant for gaming. A Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 or something would have been better.</p><p>2. Vista is a resource hog and requires 2 GB recommended minimum to run. It usually sits around 900mhz-1.1GB Idle to run just the OS alone. So if Vista is taking up 1GB already, you are left with 2 GB. And I am sure running the game on High to highest settings will cause EQ2 to probably almost exeed 2GB of RAM usage. So if you add that up, that is all your ram!! I have 4 GB with Win 7 64-Bit, and with everything I run on my machine I have almost capped out 4GB, so I am going to have to go to 6GB if not 8GB.</p><p>3. EQ2 is a game, and PC games require video cards. I don't see one listed for your Laptop so I am going to assume it is some kind of onboard video, or really low end chipset like an AMD 3100 or an Intel GMA chipset or something. Those are NOT meant for graphics rendering, they are only meant for 2D displaying such as your desktop, web pages, etc, and very BASIC 3D tasks, such as maybe watching videos or using Vista Aero or something, but sometimes they don't even do that very well.</p><p>So just because you get a newer machine, doesn't always mean it is going to be better for gaming. Gaming PC's always follow slightly diffrent rules than PC's used for normal things. It is like upgrading your 1991 Mustang GT with a 2010 Toyota Prius then trying to hit the track and beat your old Mustang's scores. The Prius wasn't designed for racing, just like your laptop might not have been designed for gaming. Gaming PC's need a fast CPU, fast GPU, and enough RAM. Hope this helps.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Besides what everyone else has mentioned, the processors you're comparing are in different classes.  The Prescott 3Ghz is a power hungry, performance-focused desktop CPU.  The Turion is generally a laptop CPU designed for a balance of performance and low power consumption.  The Turion certainly isn't a bad chip, but I wouldn't say that it is designed for gaming like your older Intel chip.</p></blockquote><p>add to this - cool n quiet and power-now maybe getting involved and throttling the cpu performance,</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Besides what everyone else has mentioned, the processors you're comparing are in different classes.  The Prescott 3Ghz is a power hungry, performance-focused desktop CPU.  The Turion is generally a laptop CPU designed for a balance of performance and low power consumption.  The Turion certainly isn't a bad chip, but I wouldn't say that it is designed for gaming like your older Intel chip.</p></blockquote><p>add to this - cool n quiet and power-now maybe getting involved and throttling the cpu performance,</p></blockquote><p>That's a good point that I didn't think of.  He may want to try disabling those options if using the game while the laptop is plugged into an AC power source.</p>