Ranged auto attack will not stop when using a melee combat art and vice versa.

[Lord Hackenslash]

<p>Can this be a toggle in the option menus?</p><p>I think this is an awesome thing for rangers but personally I use my melee and ranged combat arts to swap my auto attack styles. Rangers have needed something like this for a very long time and I don't want to take anything away from them but this does impact about 11 other classes in what I believe is a negative manner.</p><p>Thank you.</p>

[msheaf]

<p>I totally agree with a option switch. Playing my baby SK the other night I would bow pull then have to remember to switch to melee autoattack every time.</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p>

[Lord Hackenslash]

<p><3 This sounds great! maybe I should think of making a new Ranger alt. <3</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">What might be an idea is that you autoswap to melee when you close ranged and swap back out if you joust back out, but only if you start with a ranged. And if you are Jumped you could back out and use ranged to activate the swap.</span></p>

[Gaige]

<p>No, no jumping stuff please as rangers stand within 5m for most fights while still using ranged auto attack.  I like the toggle option best Rothgar sir!</p>

[Lethe5683]

This is awesome!

[Finora]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>Oh goodness thank you.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

Thanks for the option Rothgar, can't wait to tell that to my ranger hubby <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[jjlo69]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>so when will this ui option go in ???</p><p>Uncle</p>

[Umarth]

<p>I think if this happens then Rothgar will be my new favourite person!</p>

[jjlo69]

<p>so just wondering is this ui change gonna make it in this next lu ???</p><p>uncle</p>

[feldon30]

Yes, I'm on Test right now and don't see the setting. Most people will want the default behavior.

[Rottenapple]

<p>So, was this ever put in game?</p>

[feldon30]

4 1/2 months on and no luck.

[Rottenapple]

<p>Well, this is still on the "to do" list and not abandoned completely I hope?</p>

[Banwar]

<p>Was this ever implimented? Looked around and found nothing but this so I'm guessing no.</p>

[Hammieee]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>Your late buddy,</p>

[feldon30]

<p>Talked to Rothgar about this at Fan Faire and we went through some different solutions and explaining the exact problem. But a nice conversation at Fan Faire does not guarantee implementation.</p><p>Now that all Priests and Mages will have a choice of autoattack (melee or spell), this may increase the attention and priority given.</p>

[Nevao]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Talked to Rothgar about this at Fan Faire and we went through some different solutions and explaining the exact problem. But a nice conversation at Fan Faire does not guarantee implementation.</p><p>Now that all Priests and Mages will have a choice of autoattack (melee or spell), this may increase the attention and priority given.</p></blockquote><p>The problem is that they have known about this issues for years. A first pass was made at it during the SF beta but was scrapped almost immediately. At the time Rothgar said it was becuase he did not like the interface (or something to that effect) but that it was still something they wanted to do. I've read/been told of similar conversations to this over the  years to the effect that it's something "we want to do" but it never seems to make the cut.</p><p>I really would love to see this happen, and I agree now is the best shot at it happening, but honestly I'm beginning to lose faith that it will. They obviously have no problems designing a class that gets all it's bonus to ranged but must be melee to get full DPS. That in an of itself is not a problem but then they do not give us reasonable tools to manage that disconnect (the macros technically work but are buggy as [I'm not allowed to use this word]). In terms of other mechanics we had to literally hijack every SF Beta thread just to get access to the AoE Auto Attack and Flurry on ranged. Even though at the time they were adding it to AAs and Adornments that every other scout/fighter class could use. It still took them 6 months (half an expansion) to follow up on that promise.</p><p>Along the same lines they designed (through AA) melee priest options but then refused to itemize for them. Look at a Warden's AA options and tell me whether they are supposed to be Melee or Spell. Yes you can do Spells, and due to scaling it may work better for the moment but there was an obvious intent in one direction. Yet the rest of the game did not keep up with how the class has been designed/evolved.</p><p>In the end there is a pattern that has developed. Whether it's some obscure balance issue or simply a "we'd rather work on this feature that X more users will benifit from" the fact is classes get pushed one way through design and are then regularly not given the full support of mechanics and itemization. At some point this has to change, but I see nothing in their recent behavior to make believe that it will actually happen.</p><p>Developers prove me wrong PLEASE, but don't be the least bit surprised if we have no faith on this subject.</p>

[Banwar]

<p>This would benefit me as a guardian, at least for my current situation. I use a sword and board in defensive stance when soloing for any reason, and I've noticed that my ranged auto attack by itself does more dps then my melee autoattack combined with my combat abilities. Sad, I know. This is why I was hoping there was a way to stop my combat arts from turning melee autoattack on. It's a pain to have to use 3 arts, click ranged autoattack, 3 arts, ranged autoattack, over and over.</p>

[Wizardlord]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>woot thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Nevao]

<p><cite>Poscu@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>woot thanks <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Before you say woot, check the date of the post man.</p>

[Wizardlord]

<p><cite>Nevao wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Poscu@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>woot thanks <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Before you say woot, check the date of the post man.</p></blockquote><p>Oo lol, i didnt even check the date, guess no woot yet then hehe</p>

[Chefren]

<p><cite>Nevao wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>At the time Rothgar said it was becuase he did not like the interface (or something to that effect) but that it was still something they wanted to do.</blockquote><p>Just toss in three options on the persona window options tab:</p><p>Automatically switch to melee auto attack (default on)Automatically switch to ranged auto attack (default on)Automatically switch to spell auto attack (default on)</p><p>I don't see what other type of interface would be required?</p>

[Axlin]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yes, we're going to add an option and default it so that nothing changes.  If someone would like the new behavior, they can enable it under options.</p></blockquote><p>Has there been any progress made on this yet? Maybe I'm just not seeing the option, but I figured that after 2 1/2 years, it should be available somewhere. It's just that it's rather annoying, as a melee priest, to cast a ranged spell and be switched to ranged autoattack, which is not only weaker than my melee autoattack, but offers me fewer benefits (particularly on my warden, which has a chance to heal with melee attacks).</p>

[Leawyn]

<p>Really? You're gonna bump a 2 year old thread to ask a question that is already answered in another thread in the same section, a sticky to boot!</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=518323">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=518323</a></p>

[Landiin]

WOW no need to be rude. Looking at their post count I doubt they are adapt at using these forums as you are. A simple You can find your answer in this new thread here, would of work just as well as your run and snide comment. Try to be mature on these forums as the rules state you can't attack anyone like you just did.

[Skylan]

<p>She appears to have helped him from what I can see.  Pointing out that the individual is a halfwit isn't against any rule that I'm aware of.  </p>

[Koleg]

<p><cite>Toranx@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>WOW no need to be rude. Looking at their post count I doubt they are adapt at using these forums as you are. A simple You can find your answer in this new thread here, would of work just as well as your run and snide comment. Try to be mature on these forums as the rules state you can't attack anyone like you just did.</blockquote><p>She wasn't being rude, she pointed out two things; #1 there was a sticky and #2 Neco'ing old posts isn't helpful.  If she was being rube she might have said Necro'ing posts was against the forum guidelines or posted oe of those wicked awesome Necro post images.  She could also have mentioned that this topic has been discussed in several of the other forums such as "Spells, Abilities", "Tipes & Tricks" and even in the "Test Update Notes" from 5/10 AND told the Necro poster that the "Search" feature is the best way to find current and up to date info on current game mechanics or that a six year old account wiht 50+ posts ont eh boards should know how to use it , whether they have been gone for a good amount of time or now OR even saying something as silly as "Don't equip a Wand in your ranged slot and you wouldn't have this problem."</p>

[Axlin]

<p>Boy, what a volitile lot this is. And apparently I'm a halfwit. That's great.</p><p>Anyway, I simply searched Google for this issue, and this thread came up. I didn't see any others, so I asked here. Sorry, I guess. And thanks for the link, despite the sour attitudes that came along with it.</p>

[Landiin]

<p><cite>Skylan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>She appears to have helped him from what I can see.  Pointing out that the individual is a halfwit isn't against any rule that I'm aware of.  </p></blockquote><p>I never said she didn't help him I said she was being rude about it.</p>

[Landiin]

<p><cite>Koleg@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Toranx@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>WOW no need to be rude. Looking at their post count I doubt they are adapt at using these forums as you are. A simple You can find your answer in this new thread here, would of work just as well as your run and snide comment. Try to be mature on these forums as the rules state you can't attack anyone like you just did.</blockquote><p>She wasn't being rude, she pointed out two things; #1 there was a sticky and #2 Neco'ing old posts isn't helpful.  If she was being rube she might have said Necro'ing posts was against the forum guidelines or posted oe of those wicked awesome Necro post images.  She could also have mentioned that this topic has been discussed in several of the other forums such as "Spells, Abilities", "Tipes & Tricks" and even in the "Test Update Notes" from 5/10 AND told the Necro poster that the "Search" feature is the best way to find current and up to date info on current game mechanics or that a six year old account wiht 50+ posts ont eh boards should know how to use it , whether they have been gone for a good amount of time or now OR even saying something as silly as "Don't equip a Wand in your ranged slot and you wouldn't have this problem."</p></blockquote><p><p>You forgot 3# she is a rude and hateful person.</p><p>She could of simple did what I said but no, she had to act like she was someone and tried to make herself look important by putting down someone. I get it, you guys have no self esteem and put down others to try and make you feel better about your self. Really there isn't any need to do that, you do have self worth, people care about you so hold your head up and be proud to be you.</p></p>

[Neiloch]

<p>It's always catch-22</p><p><strong>Make a new thread:</strong> "There 's already thread for that omg learn to use search looser" (because they always spell 'loser' wrong)</p><p><strong>Reply in an existing thread:</strong> "Why are you necroing threads!!!!11"</p><p>My solution: people who respond rudely in either of those ways aren't worth acknowledging.</p>

[Tekadeo]

<p>Well she has a point but yeah she is often condescending and rude.  Deal with it. </p><p>I will have to say this:  Best. Necro. Thread. Ever.  Just because it shows how long it took for this (seemingly) simple change to go from concept to reality in EQ2.  Two and a half years is a VERY long time, guys.</p>

[Landiin]

I did.

[Leawyn]

<p><cite>Toranx@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Koleg@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Toranx@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>WOW no need to be rude. Looking at their post count I doubt they are adapt at using these forums as you are. A simple You can find your answer in this new thread here, would of work just as well as your run and snide comment. Try to be mature on these forums as the rules state you can't attack anyone like you just did.</blockquote><p>She wasn't being rude, she pointed out two things; #1 there was a sticky and #2 Neco'ing old posts isn't helpful.  If she was being rube she might have said Necro'ing posts was against the forum guidelines or posted oe of those wicked awesome Necro post images.  She could also have mentioned that this topic has been discussed in several of the other forums such as "Spells, Abilities", "Tipes & Tricks" and even in the "Test Update Notes" from 5/10 AND told the Necro poster that the "Search" feature is the best way to find current and up to date info on current game mechanics or that a six year old account wiht 50+ posts ont eh boards should know how to use it , whether they have been gone for a good amount of time or now OR even saying something as silly as "Don't equip a Wand in your ranged slot and you wouldn't have this problem."</p></blockquote><p>You forgot 3# she is a rude and hateful person.</p><p>She could of simple did what I said but no, she had to act like she was someone and tried to make herself look important by putting down someone. I get it, you guys have no self esteem and put down others to try and make you feel better about your self. Really there isn't any need to do that, you do have self worth, people care about you so hold your head up and be proud to be you.</p></blockquote><p>Whoa whoa whoa, Mr. White Knight. Where exactly was I being HATEFUL? I didn't call them names (not even necro) and I didn't insult them in any way other than an implied "Way to be a noob." If I was being hateful, you'd know it. BTW... you're looking like a giant hypocrite here by insulting me and others in your attempt to say insulting others is wrong.</p>

[Neiloch]

<p><cite>Maewyn@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whoa whoa whoa, Mr. White Knight. Where exactly was I being HATEFUL? I didn't call them names (not even necro) and I didn't insult them in any way other than an implied "Way to be a noob." If I was being hateful, you'd know it. BTW... you're looking like a giant hypocrite here by insulting me and others in your attempt to say insulting others is wrong.</p></blockquote><p>Nah, you're in the wrong here. Sorry.</p>

[Lethlian]

<p><cite>Tekadeo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well she has a point but yeah she is often condescending and rude.  Deal with it. </p><p>I will have to say this:  Best. Necro. Thread. Ever.  Just because it shows how long it took for this (seemingly) simple change to go from concept to reality in EQ2.  Two and a half years is a VERY long time, guys.</p></blockquote><p><strong>Two and a half years.</strong></p><p>I about spit my green tea all over the monitor.</p>

[Neiloch]

<p>Yep. Just needed it to be a problem more than half the classes have, with rangers breaking the tie.</p>

[Skylan]

<p>Nah, I'd say blindly ignoring existing posts in search of a 2.5 year old post makes you generally bereft of intellectual function.</p><p>Pointing out the individual is lacking isn't negative.  Now he/she can work on their inadequacies.  Think of her as a life coach.</p>

[Leawyn]

<p><cite>Neiloch@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maewyn@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whoa whoa whoa, Mr. White Knight. Where exactly was I being HATEFUL? I didn't call them names (not even necro) and I didn't insult them in any way other than an implied "Way to be a noob." If I was being hateful, you'd know it. BTW... you're looking like a giant hypocrite here by insulting me and others in your attempt to say insulting others is wrong.</p></blockquote><p>Nah, you're in the wrong here. Sorry.</p></blockquote><p>I didn't realize opinions could be right or wrong, go figure.</p>

[Landiin]

Well yea, if your in the opinion the earth is flat, your opinion would be wrong. Just like...

[Axlin]

<p><cite>Skylan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nah, I'd say blindly ignoring existing posts in search of a 2.5 year old post makes you generally bereft of intellectual function.</p><p>Pointing out the individual is lacking isn't negative.  Now he/she can work on their inadequacies.  Think of her as a life coach.</p></blockquote><p>I don't understand why you're so bitter. There have been a couple other sour attitudes in this thread, but yours is by far the worst. You're the only person who has out-right insulted me (on two different occassions now) for making a small mistake. And that mistake? Posting on an old thread asking for an update two days after a new thread was created on the topic, meaning Google probably hadn't had time to index the new thread yet. Could I have used the forum's built-in search tool? Of course. Should I have? Well, had I known I'd be spurring some sort of nuclear holocaust with a single forum post, maybe I should have. Am I sorry I didn't go about things the "proper" way? Given the attutudes I've received here, absolutely not.</p><p>Now, maybe you feel the need to call me names and make a big fuss over my simple mistake because you feel empowered through disparaging others; perhaps it gives you a self-esteem boost. Or maybe you're simply a belligerent, irascible person. Or hey, maybe you're just going through a rough time right now, which leads to short-term acrimonious outbursts. I have no way of knowing from what little I have observed of you. All I <em>do </em>know is that you are demonstrating incredibly unhealthy emotional behavior. In short, I don't think it's me who needs a life coach here. I would suggest adopting a more positive outlook on life and toward others. You'll find that you'll be much happier as an individual, and others will take to liking you much more readily as well. But what do I know? It seems I'm merely a "halfwit," "generally bereft of intellectual function," and afflicted by "inadequacies." <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Leawyn]

<p>So much ranting over a simple comment.... sheesh.</p>

[Kapath]

<p>...potatoes...that is all</p>