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Josgar
11-07-2009, 12:32 AM
<p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/josgar/OMG.png" width="800" height="484" />Nuff said.</p><p>what happened?</p>

Aurel
11-07-2009, 12:41 AM
<p>[EDIT:  Yay for appropriate spoiler tag!]</p><p>It was funny though.  I was in EFP on test_copy and saw the <a href="http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7017/londonbridgeisfallingdo.png" target="_blank">citadel leaning</a>...  On the ground, too, but I'm slow as you all know, so I was staring at it like huh.  "Has that always been there?  am I really that slow?"  I asked.  Then went to WFP, <a href="http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1432/londonbridgehasfallendo.png" target="_blank">faceplanted into rubble</a>...  "holy crap, I'm not THIS slow!"  Sent it to befallen.lore, and the search party to figure out what's going on began!  I don't think any of us found anything though /:</p><p>I was running in low graphics, but add some debris-smoke effect and some flames where appropriate.  I think seeing flames in the first SS would have helped clue me in a little faster.</p><p>However, guys, you know who the real victim is here?  Huh?  It's that poor guard in the second screenshot.  Who's going to help HIM?</p>

Kamimura
11-07-2009, 12:41 AM
<p>We haven't been able to figure out why the citadel fell, yet. Doesn't seem to be any clues around the damage..</p>

Quicksilver74
11-07-2009, 12:52 AM
<p>I received a quest called "[Removed for Content] for the Overlord"... perhaps this is a clue?</p><p>  just kidding btw!</p>

Josgar
11-07-2009, 12:56 AM
<p>Where would the overlord be?</p>

Xalmat
11-07-2009, 01:27 AM
<p>I don't know if it's related but also on Test in South Qeynos you can harvest new shinies.</p><p>Whatever's happening in Freeport hasn't been revealed yet. But it seems like something big is going down.</p>

Coniaric
11-07-2009, 04:32 AM
<p>So ... what ... the Citadel stopped working and crashed into Freeport?</p><p>That's how it looked like. The magic somehow stopped working. As it was originally the mage academy before Lucan took it over for himself.</p><p>Wonder if it has something to do with the Quellithulians and the Odus problem.</p>

Rainmare
11-07-2009, 05:14 AM
<p>Maybe Mith Marr finally decided to smack lucan down again...literally ;p</p>

The_Cheeseman
11-07-2009, 07:51 AM
<p>One possibility springs into my mind. We've recently discovered that Theer the Godslayer was improsoned in the Void for a long time, and will more than likely find a way back into our world in the near future. Theer's right and left hands are the Qeynos Claymore and Soulfire. The Claymore was hidden by the Knights of Marr, and we don't really know where it is, but we DO know where the Soulfire currently resides. And I'm willing to bet that Theer wants his toys back.</p>

Cusashorn
11-07-2009, 12:43 PM
<p>So Qeynos celebrates a city festival and Freeport has nothing to celebrate about (like they ever did).</p><p>...This is perfect! Life is great!</p>

Cusashorn
11-07-2009, 12:44 PM
<p><cite>The_Cheeseman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>One possibility springs into my mind. We've recently discovered that Theer the Godslayer was improsoned in the Void for a long time, and will more than likely find a way back into our world in the near future. Theer's right and left hands are the Qeynos Claymore and Soulfire. The Claymore was hidden by the Knights of Marr, and we don't really know where it is, but we DO know where the Soulfire currently resides. And I'm willing to bet that Theer wants his toys back.</p></blockquote><p>If he wants his toys back, then he has to go to Mistmoore for the *REAL* Soulfire. Lucan never got back the real deal. He doesn't know it either.</p>

Mystfit
11-07-2009, 01:08 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So Qeynos celebrates a city festival and Freeport has nothing to celebrate about (like they ever did).</p><p>...This is perfect! Life is great!</p></blockquote><p><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><form action="/eq2/posts/doModeration.m" accept-charset="UNKNOWN" enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" method="post"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="3" align="left" valign="top"><div><span><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=204592"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Kaitheel</span></span></strong></a></span></div><span><span style="color: #beb8b8;">Dev </span></span></td><td valign="top"><span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #ffffff; font-size: 10pt;">The Far Seas Trading Company is proud to introduce a traveling festival for all to participate in!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>When this event goes live a different city will be chosen to host this week long event, once a month.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Gorowyn, Neriak, Kelethin and Freeport will each get their chance to host their version of the event.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>On Test and Test Copy the great city of Qeynos is the first to find the traveling caravan outside it's gates in Antonica.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Adventurers will find new quests, collections and rewards, many of which are city specific!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>And for those of us that don't want to wait for the festival to reach our city's gates, we don't have to.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>City Tokens are now being given as further reward for completing city writs!</span></span></p></span></td></tr></tbody></form></table></p>

Trulaf
11-07-2009, 01:34 PM
<p>I think it is neat that, on the first posted screenshot, it is an Iksar standing before the fallen Citadel.</p><p><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Iksar power!</p>

DukeOccam
11-07-2009, 03:42 PM
<p>This is just awesome (and I mean that not in the now-overused, watered-down way).I have been wanting to see more of the existing cast of characters/places used in storyline stuff, not just "OMG a new continent let's go kill whatever's on it okay we just did yay OMG a new continent..." etc etc.Very, very cool. I can't wait to hear the storyline behind this.</p>

Meatmonster
11-07-2009, 06:52 PM
<p>I'm sure there will be flavor text on the NPCs at some point prior to the update going live that explains much of it.</p>

therodge
11-07-2009, 07:33 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>The_Cheeseman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>One possibility springs into my mind. We've recently discovered that Theer the Godslayer was improsoned in the Void for a long time, and will more than likely find a way back into our world in the near future. Theer's right and left hands are the Qeynos Claymore and Soulfire. The Claymore was hidden by the Knights of Marr, and we don't really know where it is, but we DO know where the Soulfire currently resides. And I'm willing to bet that Theer wants his toys back.</p></blockquote><p>If he wants his toys back, then he has to go to Mistmoore for the *REAL* Soulfire. Lucan never got back the real deal. He doesn't know it either.</p></blockquote><p>acually yes he did, he even admits in RoK that he gave it back because he had finished looking at it and was no longer of intrest, and that he lost on purpose yada yada yada</p>

Cusashorn
11-07-2009, 09:23 PM
<p>Ahh, I'm not VP flagged so I wouldn't know. But still, he has it in his own repository.</p>

kelvmor
11-08-2009, 12:28 AM
<p>I want to see why it happened exactly, and I think it'd be awesome to watch it come down.</p>

therodge
11-08-2009, 01:41 AM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ahh, I'm not VP flagged so I wouldn't know. But still, he has it in his own repository.</p></blockquote><p>sounds scifiy but its was confirmed a hollogram by the devs if i rmember right their were 2 or 3 other items in their that are also hollograms (he wanted soulfire to study the runes on it)</p>

shadowscale
11-08-2009, 05:07 AM
<p>wow... freeport just wont be the same now. going to take alot of getting used to not seeing the tower floating there. wonder if this is a permanate change. now i feel like quoteing a line from planet of the apes..</p><p>and yes mayong let lucan get soulfire back the same way he allows us to keep the chelsith stone.</p>

Cusashorn
11-08-2009, 05:34 AM
<p>Maybe there will be a cutscene involved showing the tower as it fell. That way, good-aligned characters can see for themselves what happened if they aren't able to get into Freeport. I hope there isn't some sort of Evil-only quest involved in this.</p>

Meatmonster
11-08-2009, 01:16 PM
<p> Qeynos will almost certainly have its own similiar type situation.</p>

Cusashorn
11-08-2009, 01:51 PM
<p>You're certain about that, huh? Too bad there's nothing in qeynos that could result in even a remotely similar amount of damage.</p>

Xalmat
11-08-2009, 02:10 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're certain about that, huh? Too bad there's nothing in qeynos that could result in even a remotely similar amount of damage.</p></blockquote><p>Sure there could. Who knows that those gnomes are doing in Baubleshire.</p>

Trulaf
11-08-2009, 02:36 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're certain about that, huh? Too bad there's nothing in qeynos that could result in even a remotely similar amount of damage.</p></blockquote><p>Fuy Gawkes could blow up the Palace.</p>

Mary the Prophetess
11-08-2009, 03:06 PM
<p>Gnomes + volatile + explosive + combustable + developers = Be afraid.  Be VERY afraid!</p>

Josgar
11-08-2009, 03:47 PM
<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're certain about that, huh? Too bad there's nothing in qeynos that could result in even a remotely similar amount of damage.</p></blockquote><p>Sure there could. Who knows that those gnomes are doing in Baubleshire.</p></blockquote><p>Why Qeynos?</p><p>What if they destroyed Kelethin.</p>

Xada
11-08-2009, 08:21 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're certain about that, huh? Too bad there's nothing in qeynos that could result in even a remotely similar amount of damage.</p></blockquote><p>Uhhh, the castle? Or the mage tower? The temple of life? Or like all the huge houses in the city proper? Or wiping out a whole racial village? Just because there's no floating citadel, doesn't mean damage can't be done.</p>

Cusashorn
11-09-2009, 12:54 AM
<p><cite>Xada@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're certain about that, huh? Too bad there's nothing in qeynos that could result in even a remotely similar amount of damage.</p></blockquote><p>Uhhh, the castle? Or the mage tower? The temple of life? Or like all the huge houses in the city proper? Or wiping out a whole racial village? Just because there's no floating citadel, doesn't mean damage can't be done.</p></blockquote><p>To have a FLOATING citadel lose its levitation and crash to the ground is one thing. To have a building that has been solidly built from the ground up, already touching the ground, suddenly cause property damage to a section of the city would pretty much require an external force to cause it. Like a chunk of luclin falling from the sky and hitting the castle proper.. Even then, most of the damage would be from the chunk rather than the castle debris.</p><p>The mage tower holds too much significance for quests to destroy it, even though it if toppled over, it would do the most damage to South Qeynos. The Temple of Life has always been floating since it first arrived in Qeynos. It would just fall into the pool if anything.</p>

Caelen
11-09-2009, 03:15 AM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>To have a FLOATING citadel lose its levitation and crash to the ground is one thing. To have a building that has been solidly built from the ground up, already touching the ground, suddenly cause property damage to a section of the city would pretty much require an external force to cause it. Like a chunk of luclin falling from the sky and hitting the castle proper.. Even then, most of the damage would be from the chunk rather than the castle debris.</p><p>The mage tower holds too much significance for quests to destroy it, even though it if toppled over, it would do the most damage to South Qeynos. The Temple of Life has always been floating since it first arrived in Qeynos. It would just fall into the pool if anything.</p></blockquote><p>Who cares what <em>type</em> of damage it would be? It would still be a massive amount of damage. Floating or on the ground, to have the something happen to the castle would be just as significant as the citadel crashing down, because they're both iconic to their respective cities.</p><p>And no one ever said the Temple of Life had to crash down. It could be blown up, or spin out of control, or, I don't know, DISAPPEAR. Anyone remember that happening? The point is, the effects may be different, but the results would be the same.</p><p>Oh, and one more thing. As for the mage tower holding too much significance, I'll just point out that the citadel itself plays host the start of the entire signature questline of the Shadow Odyssey. Now that it's gone, don't you think they'll come up with some other way for it to be completed? Just like they'd come up with a new way to do the quests from the mage tower if (and it's just a hypothetical if) something were to happen to it?</p>

Meirril
11-09-2009, 05:03 AM
<p>To be fair, you might only see the citadel blown up if your on a certain stage of a quest of some sort.</p><p>Maybe. Or maybe not.</p><p>Either way, its nice to see a major change happen in a city. Makes you believe that things actually change in a game, eh?</p><p>p.s. "Ding dong! The Wicked Litch is dead!"</p>

shadowscale
11-09-2009, 05:53 AM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>p.s. "Ding dong! The Wicked Litch is dead!"</p></blockquote><p>not likley, his role in ages end isent over yet.</p><p>and the skyline of freeport isent going to be the same... this will take some getting used to...</p>

Guy De Alsace
11-09-2009, 09:45 AM
<p>One of the admittedly few good things about DDO was that this kind of thing happened in real time. I was there when the marketplace in Stormreach got ripped out of the city and sucked into a portal and demons started spawning in the city. Was probably the best live event I've ever seen. It actually was epic seeing a 150ft high feature just get shredded and lifted into the sky.</p><p> EDIT - found the vid : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdehbHjiIM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdehbHjiIM</a></p>

Aera
11-09-2009, 03:12 PM
The title of the next GU is "Will of a Tyrant," so maybe Lucan did it on purpose/accident for some reason?

Krishti
11-09-2009, 03:41 PM
<p><cite>Guy De Alsace wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>One of the admittedly few good things about DDO was that this kind of thing happened in real time. I was there when the marketplace in Stormreach got ripped out of the city and sucked into a portal and demons started spawning in the city. Was probably the best live event I've ever seen. It actually was epic seeing a 150ft high feature just get shredded and lifted into the sky.</p><p> EDIT - found the vid : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdehbHjiIM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdehbHjiIM</a></p></blockquote><p>While I agree that would be fun to see happen.  I am very very busy right now moving and I would most likely miss any event.   I quite selfishly must say I hope Sony does not do that.  I really want to be there to see Mr. Grumpys place fall down <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />  Even if it is just a cut sceen</p>

Luminata
11-10-2009, 12:57 AM
<p>So where will evil type peeps hand in their TSO Sig quests now? :o Logged in my assassin on test who is too slack to even hand in the prologue and it was still pointing to the citadel in wfp.</p>

Meirril
11-10-2009, 01:55 AM
<p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>p.s. "Ding dong! The Wicked Litch is dead!"</p></blockquote><p>not likley, his role in ages end isent over yet.</p><p>and the skyline of freeport isent going to be the same... this will take some getting used to...</p></blockquote><p>Hey! At least let me enjoy the song until the dust settles.</p><p>Yeah, Lucan probably survives this. He might even be the cause of it. But seeing the Citadel crash landed, its funny.</p>

Guy De Alsace
11-10-2009, 05:16 AM
<p><cite>Krishti wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Guy De Alsace wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>One of the admittedly few good things about DDO was that this kind of thing happened in real time. I was there when the marketplace in Stormreach got ripped out of the city and sucked into a portal and demons started spawning in the city. Was probably the best live event I've ever seen. It actually was epic seeing a 150ft high feature just get shredded and lifted into the sky.</p><p> EDIT - found the vid : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdehbHjiIM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HdehbHjiIM</a></p></blockquote><p>While I agree that would be fun to see happen.  I am very very busy right now moving and I would most likely miss any event.   I quite selfishly must say I hope Sony does not do that.  I really want to be there to see Mr. Grumpys place fall down <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />  Even if it is just a cut sceen</p></blockquote><p>One of the best things about it was that the whole thing was automated so that this happened at the exact same time across all servers in all timezones and we knew it was going to happen due to weeks of buildup.</p><p>It was very very impressive, especially for a game as limited as DDO. I'd love to see something similar on Norrath!</p>

Rainmare
11-10-2009, 08:49 AM
<p>Norrath has had such events...just not in EQ2 yet. the corruption of lesser fay, the infamous battle of bloody kithcor, Lanys quest for Malevolence, and various other things.</p><p>Personally, I'm hoping for our first huge ingame 'event' to be Kunark's verison of Kithcor, with Rile Sathir attempting to dethrone Venril...</p><p>a close second would be to see the Darklight pact get shredded and have Neriak and Freeport go to war.</p><p>but on to the Citadel....apparently Gninja also stated in test channel that Qeynos as well has been/is going to be hit, though the event is not even up on Test.</p><p>Many of us have been thinking that the Citadel's fall might have been Cristanos, striking at Lucan for the assassination of Opal or some other slight or perceived threat. but if both Qeynos and Freeport are going to be assaulted, my money says that the Order of Rime may well be the culprit.</p>

Gninja
11-10-2009, 12:30 PM
<p><span >-- but on to the Citadel....apparently Gninja also stated in test channel that Qeynos as well has been/is going to be hit, though the event is not even up on Test.</span></p><p>No, what I said was the event is not active yet and Qeynos has a role to play in all of this. Just didn't want people running around trying to figure it out while the event hasn't been activated yet.</p>

Josgar
11-10-2009, 12:35 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span>-- but on to the Citadel....apparently Gninja also stated in test channel that Qeynos as well has been/is going to be hit, though the event is not even up on Test.</span></p><p>No, what I said was the event is not active yet and Qeynos has a role to play in all of this. Just didn't want people running around trying to figure it out while the event hasn't been activated yet.</p></blockquote><p>Poor Qeynos <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

iceriven2
11-10-2009, 01:14 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span>-- but on to the Citadel....apparently Gninja also stated in test channel that Qeynos as well has been/is going to be hit, though the event is not even up on Test.</span></p><p>No, what I said was the event is not active yet and Qeynos has a role to play in all of this. Just didn't want people running around trying to figure it out while the event hasn't been activated yet.</p></blockquote><p>Can we get an eta on when the event will be active on test?</p>

feldon30
11-10-2009, 01:26 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span>-- but on to the Citadel....apparently Gninja also stated in test channel that Qeynos as well has been/is going to be hit, though the event is not even up on Test.</span></p><p>No, what I said was the event is not active yet and Qeynos has a role to play in all of this. Just didn't want people running around trying to figure it out while the event hasn't been activated yet.</p></blockquote><p>I think folks are reading this and jumping to conclusions that some part of Qeynos is also going to be trashed.</p><p>Until I read it, or see it happen, I'm not going to assume.</p>

Valdaglerion
11-10-2009, 02:28 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span>-- but on to the Citadel....apparently Gninja also stated in test channel that Qeynos as well has been/is going to be hit, though the event is not even up on Test.</span></p><p>No, what I said was the event is not active yet and Qeynos has a role to play in all of this. Just didn't want people running around trying to figure it out while the event hasn't been activated yet.</p></blockquote><p>Well hopefully they wil destroy the mage tower and rebuild the housing in it as part of the event so it doesnt look like the blah housing on Bayle Court when it should have textures like those in the mage tower in South Qeynos.</p>

Aera
11-10-2009, 03:18 PM
<p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p>

obikenkenobi
11-10-2009, 04:35 PM
<p><cite>There@Antonia Bayle wrote</cite></p><blockquote><p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p></blockquote><p>Unless Qeynos is responsible for it somehow.....</p>

Goaldan
11-10-2009, 05:46 PM
<p>Yeah, for all we know, what's not 'activated' could just be NPC's in Qeynos reacting to the news/rumors about something big happening in Freeport.  Not necessarily that something in Qeynos is going to topple over next.</p>

Cigam
11-10-2009, 07:00 PM
<p><cite>There@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe qeynos had its dirty hand in the destruction found in freeport?</p>

Shemyaza
11-10-2009, 07:57 PM
<p><cite>Josgar@The Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What if they destroyed Kelethin.</p></blockquote><p>we can but hope.</p><p>"burn, kelethin, burn!"</p>

Gninja
11-10-2009, 08:15 PM
<p><cite>There@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p></blockquote><p>No, it doesn't...</p>

Deson
11-10-2009, 08:29 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>There@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p></blockquote><p>No, it doesn't...</p></blockquote><p>But it should!</p>

betatester7
11-10-2009, 09:50 PM
<p>so, let's blame to someone? any ideas</p>

Cusashorn
11-11-2009, 03:05 AM
<p><cite>betatester7 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>so, let's blame to someone? any ideas</p></blockquote><p>Gnomes.</p><p>Gnomes and Canada.</p>

Mary the Prophetess
11-11-2009, 04:10 AM
<p>This was a top secret mission launched by the League of Antonican Bards.  A select group of commandos was sent from Qeynos to Freeport with the expressed purpose of sabotaging the Citadel. </p><p>Clandestinely training in Qeynos for years to hone their skill to perfection, the strike force consisted of Nathan Ironforge, Kualdin Swoonsong, Gray Magnificent, Dawson Magnificent, and Foster Graham, accompanied by the Duck Demolition Squad.</p><p>Approaching Freeport from the West, Nathan Ironforge walked innocently up to the guards at the main gate.  His incessant whining questions concerning gnolls numbed the Freeport Militia Guards into a stupor, thereby allowing <span >Kualdin Swoonsong and the others to enter the central plaza.  </span></p><p><span >As the unsuspecting Freeport citizens gathered around, </span>the Maginficent Brothers, Gray and Dawson, preformed a befuddling dance for the guards at the Citadel, completely confounding them and allowing Foster Graham and the Ducks to slip inside un-noticed.</p><p>Once inside, mages and fighters alike were mesmerized as they gazed upon him which gave Sergeant Quakers and the Duck Squad the chance to infiltrate the geomancy chamber where the magical forces keeping the Citadel levitated originated, and thereby bringing the structure down.</p>

Meirril
11-11-2009, 07:50 AM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>There@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p></blockquote><p>No, it doesn't...</p></blockquote><p>It could also mean "that's the result of a Qeynos based mission. Happy landings!"</p><p>Or another time-shifting quest where you travel to the future. Que Charlton Heston!</p>

Lodrelhai
11-11-2009, 09:36 AM
<p><cite>Luminata@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So where will evil type peeps hand in their TSO Sig quests now? :o Logged in my assassin on test who is too slack to even hand in the prologue and it was still pointing to the citadel in wfp.</p></blockquote><p>Next to where the gate to the citadel used to be, there's a new door - looks like the ones you can put in your house to port you to your guild hall.  Tooltip says it takes you into the past, to the Overlord's office before the citadel fell.</p><p>That actually has me wondering a bit; why the past rather than to whatever building or guild hall the Overlord appropriated for his office now?  Unless he is still buried in that rubble somewhere...</p><p>As far as Will of the Tyrant, I suspect that might be a reference to Lucan's willpower/ability to maintain his city in spite of this event, rather than referring to his desires and goals.  Just speculation there though.</p><p>Or it could refer to Cristanos, and this is some elaborate plan of hers.  Damage Freeport, get the Qeynosians blamed for it, let the cities go to war, and then Neriak takes out the damaged loser.  She's in control of D'Lere and Karan with minimal losses to her own people.</p><p>Or I'm completely off on everything.  Wouldn't be the first time.  Except the route to the Overlord's office, saw that for myself.</p>

Meirril
11-11-2009, 10:42 AM
<p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Luminata@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So where will evil type peeps hand in their TSO Sig quests now? :o Logged in my assassin on test who is too slack to even hand in the prologue and it was still pointing to the citadel in wfp.</p></blockquote><p>Next to where the gate to the citadel used to be, there's a new door - looks like the ones you can put in your house to port you to your guild hall.  Tooltip says it takes you into the past, to the Overlord's office before the citadel fell.</p><p>That actually has me wondering a bit; why the past rather than to whatever building or guild hall the Overlord appropriated for his office now?  Unless he is still buried in that rubble somewhere...</p><p>As far as Will of the Tyrant, I suspect that might be a reference to Lucan's willpower/ability to maintain his city in spite of this event, rather than referring to his desires and goals.  Just speculation there though.</p><p>Or it could refer to Cristanos, and this is some elaborate plan of hers.  Damage Freeport, get the Qeynosians blamed for it, let the cities go to war, and then Neriak takes out the damaged loser.  She's in control of D'Lere and Karan with minimal losses to her own people.</p><p>Or I'm completely off on everything.  Wouldn't be the first time.  Except the route to the Overlord's office, saw that for myself.</p></blockquote><p>The Tyrant is one of the many titles that refer to Lucan D'Leer. Will of the Tyrant could mean that one of his plans has either come to fruition (and born very bitter fruit), or that somehow depowering the Citadel and letting it fall on his beloved Freeport is part of a means to his ends. It could very well be that the Citadel fell to Freeport because he drained it of power in an attempt to become a god, which is one of his long time stated goals. He may even be attempting to negotiate some kind of deal with Theer to become a diety after he helps Theer escape, or prevents Theer from escaping. It depends on who he believes is most likely to accomplish what he is after.</p><p>Its even possible (though unlikely) that the Overlord could of perished quite some time ago, only to be replaced by an agent of the void. Personally, I wouldn't think so. While I'm sure the void creatures would of love to get to someone of his position and influence, simply put he acts way too human for any of the void creatures to impersonate him. Also instead of sending some of the most powerful adventurers in D'Leer to face the void menace, void-Lucan would of taken the opportunity to assimilate/assassinate them in his office. Right?</p>

Thaelar
11-11-2009, 11:40 AM
<p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">The Mother Confessor</span> Queen Antonia Bayle clearly screwed up a spell and released the chimes causing all magic to fail. We're all doomed, run away!!!</p><p>On an entirely unrelated note, perhaps Lucan finally found the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.</p>

Firecracker
11-11-2009, 01:27 PM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Its even possible (though unlikely) that the Overlord could of perished quite some time ago, only to be replaced by an agent of the void. Personally, I wouldn't think so. While I'm sure the void creatures would of love to get to someone of his position and influence, simply put he acts way too human for any of the void creatures to impersonate him. Also instead of sending some of the most powerful adventurers in D'Leer to face the void menace, void-Lucan would of taken the opportunity to assimilate/assassinate them in his office. Right?</p></blockquote><p>You know it is possible that Lucan is of the Void for their has been lot of speculation about how he came to be so powerful to begin with.</p>

Ascanius
11-11-2009, 03:30 PM
<p>What I dont get is just because something happened in FP why in hell does something bad have to happen in Qeynos. If the DEVS do something bad to both cities it would be lame.If they do, its because all of you whinning people that want everything to be fair and equal bah bah.</p>

DukeOccam
11-11-2009, 03:50 PM
<p>I have to agree. It would seem rather arbitrary if one thing got destroyed in both cities. Like who-/whatever did this would care about being fair.</p>

Froed20
11-11-2009, 04:31 PM
<p>I'm on to you, brat.</p><p><img src="http://i.imagehost.org/0040/180px-Nathan_Ironforge.jpg" width="180" height="487" /></p>

Crymsyn
11-11-2009, 05:13 PM
<p>I dunno... Will of a Tyrant... Means Lucan of course. But what if it was a literal will. As in he's (presumed at least) dead.</p>

Saihung23
11-11-2009, 05:35 PM
<p><cite>Fayle@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm on to you, brat.</p><p><img src="http://i.imagehost.org/0040/180px-Nathan_Ironforge.jpg" width="180" height="487" /></p></blockquote><p>One question....</p><p>Is he attackable?>:(</p><p>and does he just stand around asking anyone who walks by, "Have you ever <strong>killed</strong> a gnoll before?" in a whiny nasally voice that just screams KICK A PUPPY!!!:P</p>

Larkverdin
11-11-2009, 07:16 PM
<p><cite>Crymsyn@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I dunno... Will of a Tyrant... Means Lucan of course. But what if it was a literal will. As in he's (presumed at least) dead.</p></blockquote><p>I like this theory. Not because I hate Lucan and think he's a tool, but because it plays on the words & well yeah, amuses me that Lucan would finally be gone <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p>

Aera
11-11-2009, 07:41 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>There@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> "Qeynos has a role to play in all this" clearly means "parts of Qeynos will also be destroyed."</p></blockquote><p>No, it doesn't...</p></blockquote><p>I guess I unintentionally trolled a dev?  I was being sarcastic because a few posters above me had jumped to that conclusion.</p><p>Anyway, I am glad things are happening in the old world zones again.</p>

Meirril
11-11-2009, 08:23 PM
<p><cite>Cinnimon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Its even possible (though unlikely) that the Overlord could of perished quite some time ago, only to be replaced by an agent of the void. Personally, I wouldn't think so. While I'm sure the void creatures would of love to get to someone of his position and influence, simply put he acts way too human for any of the void creatures to impersonate him. Also instead of sending some of the most powerful adventurers in D'Leer to face the void menace, void-Lucan would of taken the opportunity to assimilate/assassinate them in his office. Right?</p></blockquote><p>You know it is possible that Lucan is of the Void for their has been lot of speculation about how he came to be so powerful to begin with.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, you know. The old fashioned way I suppose? Find someone with information useful to you, accuse them of crimes. Imprision them and confiscate the information. Torture them to find the rest of it. Use said information to make yourself more powerful. Rince and repeat. I'm sure the "paladin" Lucan D'Leer has plenty of occasions to deal with Necromancers in Freeport. How else do you think he would of learned how to become a Litch at such a young age?</p>

Wilde_Night
11-12-2009, 01:11 AM
<p><cite>Spearous@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What I dont get is just because something happened in FP why in hell does something bad have to happen in Qeynos. If the DEVS do something bad to both cities it would be lame.If they do, its because all of you whinning people that want everything to be fair and equal bah bah.</p></blockquote><p>Evil will always win.  Because good, is dumb.</p>

betatester7
11-12-2009, 01:19 AM
<p>noo wait wait wait, this is a wonderfull idea, devs destroy qyenos or freeport, well part of them, suddenly we have new events to repair and fix.</p><p>voilà we have qeynos and freeport revamped! no more stuck npcs, no more ugly city! just fill the spots with lore bits and tadaa!</p>

Zabjade
11-12-2009, 03:05 AM
<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Or perhaps instead of Zigging the events in Qeynos will Zag, perhaps there will be increased activity in the sewers or Gnolls will be forced to ally with Qeynos because of an Orc Invasion of Antonica and/or Thundering Steppes (Which leaves things open for the revamp of TS for the expansion)</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Qeynos might have a suddend influx of Refugees instead of a crushed Building. This will of course mean the reworking of quests and possibly a turnover of BB to Orcs and small hold-outs of Gnolls so you can still do the L&L Have the towers heavily guarded...</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">It would definitaly be more interesting then random building demolition.</span></p>

CorpseGoddess
11-12-2009, 10:06 PM
<p><cite>Aeviel@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Spearous@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What I dont get is just because something happened in FP why in hell does something bad have to happen in Qeynos. If the DEVS do something bad to both cities it would be lame.If they do, its because all of you whinning people that want everything to be fair and equal bah bah.</p></blockquote><p>Evil will always win.  Because good, is dumb.</p></blockquote><p>Best quote of the movie.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

FireDragon
11-12-2009, 11:46 PM
<p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">or Gnolls will be forced to ally with Qeynos because of an Orc Invasion of Antonica and/or Thundering Steppes (Which leaves things open for the revamp of TS for the expansion)</span></p></blockquote><p>Gnoll Player Race tto balance good/evil... we can dream.. :<</p>

Aneova
11-13-2009, 01:14 AM
<p><cite>Fayle@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm on to you, brat.</p><p><img src="http://i.imagehost.org/0040/180px-Nathan_Ironforge.jpg" width="180" height="487" /></p></blockquote><p>If they want to bring city populations back up, make him attackable*sagely nod*</p>

Doggi
11-13-2009, 06:15 AM
I like this whole speculation about what happend in Freeport <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> The devs should add some minor damage to Qeynos as well: Parts of the mage tower break down and fall onto Nathan Ironforge, smashing him to a pancake. Then, a new Live Event could be introduced, where everybody dances around the grave of this nasty little npc <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Gamer1965
11-13-2009, 11:05 AM
<p><cite>betatester7 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>noo wait wait wait, this is a wonderfull idea, devs destroy qyenos or freeport, well part of them, suddenly we have new events to repair and fix.</p><p>voilà we have qeynos and freeport revamped! no more stuck npcs, no more ugly city! just fill the spots with lore bits and tadaa!</p></blockquote><p>THIS.</p>

Quicksilver74
11-13-2009, 03:18 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>To have a FLOATING citadel lose its levitation and crash to the ground is one thing. To have a building that has been solidly built from the ground up, already touching the ground, suddenly cause property damage to a section of the city would pretty much require an external force to cause it. Like a chunk of luclin falling from the sky and hitting the castle proper.. Even then, most of the damage would be from the chunk rather than the castle debris.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe a building has explosives and it blows it up into the air and then it topples down.  Or a Wizard tries to learn teleportation but accidentally teleports the Queen's castle 1 Mile above Qeynos... only then to watch it fall down... Or a Conjuror tries summoning a new pet but it explodes upon appearing, leaving a huge crater in Qeynos Harbor. </p><p>  There are literaly thousands of ways for qeynos to have a similar disaster. </p>

Aneova
11-13-2009, 03:27 PM
<p><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>To have a FLOATING citadel lose its levitation and crash to the ground is one thing. To have a building that has been solidly built from the ground up, already touching the ground, suddenly cause property damage to a section of the city would pretty much require an external force to cause it. Like a chunk of luclin falling from the sky and hitting the castle proper.. Even then, most of the damage would be from the chunk rather than the castle debris.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe a building has explosives and it blows it up into the air and then it topples down.  Or a Wizard tries to learn teleportation but accidentally teleports the Queen's castle 1 Mile above Qeynos... only then to watch it fall down... Or a Conjuror tries summoning a new pet but it explodes upon appearing, leaving a huge crater in Qeynos Harbor. </p><p>  There are literaly thousands of ways for qeynos to have a similar disaster. </p></blockquote><p>you've got the how's but not the Why's and this is the important part of how people percieve and attempt to accept the lore and history as it's being changed/written</p>

Quicksilver74
11-13-2009, 04:02 PM
<p>The why is simple. </p><p>  The Incredibel Hulk punched down Twilight Citadel.   Then Wolverine showed up and cut him, making him enraged.   Nightcrawler teleported in and took Wolverine to Qeynos, which was far enough away, that they hoped even IF the Hulk chased after them, he woudl calm down before finding them.   Well halfway there, the Hulk began to calm down, but just as he was almost about to revert back into David Banner, Spiderman literally fell out of the sky!  (You see, good ole' Spidey was doing battle with the Green Goblin, and managed to get  himself STUCK to the goblin's glider!   Well the webbing eventually gave out, dropping Spidey somewhere over Antonica... right on to the hulk!) </p><p>  If it weren't for the sudden impact, it was certainly Spiderman's "Green" jokes.   Hulk exploded in a rage all over again, and swung at Spiderman, knocking him so hard that he actually clipped through a wall... causing him to fall through the world and be teleported to a safe location.   Just then a monk ran past hulk, out adventuring... and the Hulk saw the monk's claw weapon.  It reminded Hulk to finish finding Wolverine!   So Hulk, now fully enraged, made his way to Qeynos.   Once there, Mr. Sinister appeared, and told Hulk that Wolverine was in the Queen's Castle hiding!   Then Mr. Sinister disappeared, laughing to himself.   Hulk proceeded to destroy the castle in search for Wolverine!  </p><p>  Your quest young adventurer, shoudl you choose to accept it... is to help the Hulk find Wolverine!  </p>

Froed20
11-13-2009, 04:50 PM
<p>Perhaps the hamster that was powering the hover generator went LD?</p>

Froed20
11-13-2009, 04:55 PM
<p><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>To have a FLOATING citadel lose its levitation and crash to the ground is one thing. To have a building that has been solidly built from the ground up, already touching the ground, suddenly cause property damage to a section of the city would pretty much require an external force to cause it. Like a chunk of luclin falling from the sky and hitting the castle proper.. Even then, most of the damage would be from the chunk rather than the castle debris.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe a building has explosives and it blows it up into the air and then it topples down.  Or a Wizard tries to learn teleportation but accidentally teleports the Queen's castle 1 Mile above Qeynos... only then to watch it fall down... Or a Conjuror tries summoning a new pet but it explodes upon appearing, leaving a huge crater in Qeynos Harbor. </p><p>  There are literaly thousands of ways for qeynos to have a similar disaster. </p></blockquote><p>You've also got a city full of gnomes.  That fact alone justifies any possible explanation.</p>

Gninja
11-13-2009, 06:30 PM
<p>Hey now! I resemble... err resent that remark.</p>

Josgar
11-13-2009, 06:45 PM
<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hey now! I resemble... err resent that remark.</p></blockquote><p>When do you think that we will be able to test the the event?</p>

Nakaru-Nitepaw
11-13-2009, 07:46 PM
<p>I was on test looking at this the other day and saw the ruins. The citadel it's self looks intact. It's the wall that crumbled. I assume the overlord lived through that. Probably fell out of bed... But alive. If you can call his existance living... lol.</p><p>The funny thing about the moment was as i was watching the ruins, a wondering gnome NPC could be overheard saying "The bigger the boom the better the success i always say". I laughed so hard at that.</p><p>Possible cause? We don't know. Lots of assumptions though. Gnomes? Antonia came over to spend the night with lucan and brought down the house? We don't know.</p>

kelvmor
11-13-2009, 09:24 PM
<p><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The why is simple. </p><p>  The Incredibel Hulk punched down Twilight Citadel.   Then Wolverine showed up and cut him, making him enraged.   Nightcrawler teleported in and took Wolverine to Qeynos, which was far enough away, that they hoped even IF the Hulk chased after them, he woudl calm down before finding them.   Well halfway there, the Hulk began to calm down, but just as he was almost about to revert back into David Banner, Spiderman literally fell out of the sky!  (You see, good ole' Spidey was doing battle with the Green Goblin, and managed to get  himself STUCK to the goblin's glider!   Well the webbing eventually gave out, dropping Spidey somewhere over Antonica... right on to the hulk!) </p><p>  If it weren't for the sudden impact, it was certainly Spiderman's "Green" jokes.   Hulk exploded in a rage all over again, and swung at Spiderman, knocking him so hard that he actually clipped through a wall... causing him to fall through the world and be teleported to a safe location.   Just then a monk ran past hulk, out adventuring... and the Hulk saw the monk's claw weapon.  It reminded Hulk to finish finding Wolverine!   So Hulk, now fully enraged, made his way to Qeynos.   Once there, Mr. Sinister appeared, and told Hulk that Wolverine was in the Queen's Castle hiding!   Then Mr. Sinister disappeared, laughing to himself.   Hulk proceeded to destroy the castle in search for Wolverine!  </p><p>  Your quest young adventurer, shoudl you choose to accept it... is to help the Hulk find Wolverine!  </p></blockquote><p> This quote is win.</p><p>This is what happened to the Twilight Citadel. The Incredible Hulk tore it down.</p>

Meirril
11-13-2009, 09:26 PM
<p><cite>Eschia@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was on test looking at this the other day and saw the ruins. The citadel it's self looks intact. It's the wall that crumbled. I assume the overlord lived through that. Probably fell out of bed... But alive. If you can call his existance living... lol.</p><p>The funny thing about the moment was as i was watching the ruins, a wondering gnome NPC could be overheard saying "The bigger the boom the better the success i always say". I laughed so hard at that.</p><p>Possible cause? We don't know. Lots of assumptions though. Gnomes? Antonia came over to spend the night with lucan and brought down the house? We don't know.</p></blockquote><p>Even if the Overlord was trying to catch the Citadel to save his precious collection of glass unicorns he wouldn't "die". As a Litch he can survive perty much anything (or at least come back from it afterward) as long as his phylasry remains intact. He's almost as indestructable as a soulbound adventurer...</p><p>...you know I kind of wish Dev would take a look at that mechanic some day and maybe write some Lore about it. Try and explain why we keep comming back but the rest of the world doesn't run out and get soulbound themselves. /shrug</p><p>And considering that there are Soulbinders in EQ1, there is some in-game justification for it.</p>

Spammer
11-13-2009, 10:33 PM
I hope that someone confirms if we have to do Soulfire/Claymore in order to upgrade/update myths so that I can cancel my preorder. No way Im doing all those on the 3 toons that havent done it.

Cusashorn
11-14-2009, 12:35 AM
<p><cite>Spammer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I hope that someone confirms if we have to do Soulfire/Claymore in order to upgrade/update myths so that I can cancel my preorder. No way Im doing all those on the 3 toons that havent done it.</blockquote><p>If they make it a requirement, they better be prepaired to change the whole Ascent of the Awakened zone to a group heroic. That Epic X2 zone is keeping me from soloing my way to the end of the questline. (Tarinax not counting, but he's easy.)</p>

Lodrelhai
11-14-2009, 05:58 AM
<p>Knew I'd read this somewhere...</p><p>A lot of people seem to be assuming that whatever happened, Lucan is fine because he's a lich and can only be destroyed if his phylactery is.  But there's some question of whether Lucan is actually a lich.  Per Vhalen in <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=374812" target="_blank">this </a>thread (3rd post on the page):</p><p><span ><p>1. Where did Lucan gain the mystical knowledge to know what the rights were to become a Lich? This is generally something a Necromancer would do not a Paladin.</p><p>VH: Norrathians are unsure if Lucan is truly a lich, but he has certainly been introduced to some form of necromantic rituals. These most likely were the result of his early alliance with the Dismal Rage. However, do not think that a single mortal alliance has made him who he is today.</p><p>Vhalen repeats the uncertainty of Lucan's state several times in the questionnaire, along with Lucan's alliance with the Dismal Rage.  I find q/a #4 particularly interesting:</p><p><span ><p>4. Why would a priest turn someone into a creature 10 times more powerful then they were especially when that person was an enemy?</p><p>VH: I would never create something more powerful than I unless I held some way of controlling its actions or destroying it.</p><p>Nothing definitive of course, but in light of the destruction of the Citadel, I think it raises some intriguing possibilities.</p></span></p></span></p>

Wilde_Night
11-14-2009, 07:02 AM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Eschia@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was on test looking at this the other day and saw the ruins. The citadel it's self looks intact. It's the wall that crumbled. I assume the overlord lived through that. Probably fell out of bed... But alive. If you can call his existance living... lol.</p><p>The funny thing about the moment was as i was watching the ruins, a wondering gnome NPC could be overheard saying "The bigger the boom the better the success i always say". I laughed so hard at that.</p><p>Possible cause? We don't know. Lots of assumptions though. Gnomes? Antonia came over to spend the night with lucan and brought down the house? We don't know.</p></blockquote><p>Even if the Overlord was trying to catch the Citadel to save his precious collection of glass unicorns he wouldn't "die". As a Litch he can survive perty much anything (or at least come back from it afterward) as long as his phylasry remains intact. He's almost as indestructable as a soulbound adventurer...</p><p>...you know I kind of wish Dev would take a look at that mechanic some day and maybe write some Lore about it. Try and explain why we keep comming back but the rest of the world doesn't run out and get soulbound themselves. /shrug</p><p>And considering that there are Soulbinders in EQ1, there is some in-game justification for it.</p></blockquote><p>Adventurers just have stronger spirits than most commoners.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

maiti
11-14-2009, 10:06 AM
<p>Could this have anything to do with Lucin coming back together? Or is the Moon just a graphic error?</p>

Wilde_Night
11-14-2009, 10:54 AM
<p><cite>maitias wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Could this have anything to do with Lucin coming back together? Or is the Moon just a graphic error?</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=187175">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=187175</a></p>

Cusashorn
11-14-2009, 11:25 AM
<p><cite>maitias wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Could this have anything to do with Lucin coming back together? Or is the Moon just a graphic error?</p></blockquote><p>Luclin still has a rotational orbit. What you think is the moon forming back together is just the largest chunk facing norrath and hiding most of the exposed core. Keep watching.</p>

Loxus
11-16-2009, 01:26 PM
<p>I think that Lucan, in a fit of frustration with putting up with TSO raid mechanics, /ragequit, and blew up his own tower to go live in 38 Studios' MMO.</p><p>In all seriousness, I think it would be awesome if some of the new instances coming in SF were located in the new destroyed parts of Qeynos and FP.</p>

Andu
11-16-2009, 04:19 PM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>...you know I kind of wish Dev would take a look at that mechanic some day and maybe write some Lore about it. Try and explain why we keep comming back but the rest of the world doesn't run out and get soulbound themselves. /shrug</p></blockquote><p>Lol, who said they haven't. I've noticed that no matter how many orcs I kill, five minutes later they are always back. And gnolls. And giants. And ......</p><p>What I want to know is who thought it would be funny to soulbind the moat rats.</p>

Ragnaphore
11-16-2009, 06:12 PM
<p><cite>Anduri wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What I want to know is who thought it would be funny to soulbind the moat rats.</p></blockquote><p>A Bloodsaber's necro, I'll bet  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

timetravelling
11-16-2009, 06:35 PM
<p><cite>Spammer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I hope that someone confirms if we have to do Soulfire/Claymore in order to upgrade/update myths so that I can cancel my preorder. No way Im doing all those on the 3 toons that havent done it.</blockquote><p>Those 2 questlines will *not* be a pre-requisite</p>

Deson
11-16-2009, 06:38 PM
<p><cite>timetravelling wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Spammer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I hope that someone confirms if we have to do Soulfire/Claymore in order to upgrade/update myths so that I can cancel my preorder. No way Im doing all those on the 3 toons that havent done it.</blockquote><p>Those 2 questlines will *not* be a pre-requisite</p></blockquote><p>Any shot we can just let mythicals go obsolete and naturally allow gear choices to be choices? To say nothing of an overvalued whatever item they get made into?</p>

Meirril
11-16-2009, 07:44 PM
<p><cite>Ragnaphore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Anduri wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What I want to know is who thought it would be funny to soulbind the moat rats.</p></blockquote><p>A Bloodsaber's necro, I'll bet  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Maybe someone taught Nathan how to soulbind? (Nathan Ironforge pick up a rat "Have you seen a gnoll before?")</p>

Azarphan
11-17-2009, 06:29 AM
<p>It is a little known fact that Boomba the Big was and always has been responsible for sustaining the overlords life force using Brinecraft.  I am not sure if you have noticed but commonlands has been experiencing a drought for nearly 5 years now and while some life has slowly started to return to CL it has not been nearly fast enough to keep up with the increased pickle demand.  </p><p>Recently Boomba had a 505 year ban lifted on the production of additional pickle types, as a result Boomba and his squad of pickle purveyors ramped up production of new pickle brands.  Consequently the increased in branding efforts as well as demand for new pickle types resulted in a shortage of pickling materials.  A plee to the good folks of Antonica was attempted but their nearly 500 and 5 year pickle embargo left them less than willing to lend a hand.  </p><p>To make a long story short the diminshing brine craft materials and increased demand for new and more inovative pickles resulted in an unforeseen side effect resulting in Boomba being unable to sustain The Overlords brine craft regmiment leaving him weak and unable to maintain the magic needed to keep the citadel floating.  I hope this clears things up.</p><p>If you wish to contribute to the "Get My Citadel Back in the Air Drive" please purchase Boomba brand pickles and all proceeds minus the standard production costs plus operation costs will go to this fund.</p>

MurFalad
11-19-2009, 08:13 AM
<p><cite>Crymsyn@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I dunno... Will of a Tyrant... Means Lucan of course. But what if it was a literal will. As in he's (presumed at least) dead.</p></blockquote><p>Its an interesting play on words, although being he's a tyrant and doesn't have any sort of successor he wants to put in place then I think we can guess that its his actions he's enforcing and not his last wishes as he's probably very uncaring on what happens in any future where he is dead.</p><p>Personally I'm thinking that this event is part of the Tupta storyline, finally the Frogloks can reclaim a new city so Freeport is renamed Frekta outpost of Marr, I expect to see waves of Frogloks decending upon Freeport in a live event here.</p><p>New players chosing Freeport will now go to the Ratatonga town in the middle of commonlands <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Xalmat
11-19-2009, 09:02 PM
<p>The event is now active on Test. But I get the feeling we're missing something, almost like this is part 2 of the event.</p><p>Obvious spoilers. Also there's multiple dialog choices.</p><p>You say, "Hail, Sir Tallen Yevix"</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "May the blessings of the Overlord protect you in these troubled times, friend."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Have you looked around recently? The Overlord's blessings aren't protecting anything."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "It has been difficult. Many of my fellow Lucanic Knights are questioning their faith, after the Overlord's recent disappearance. Some have even abandoned our order to join in the looting and the anarchy. I too went through a crisis, until I saw the light!"</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Oh?"</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "This is a test of our faith! With the Overlord's physical presence gone, it's tempting to deny him and flee, or revert to barbarism and simply do as you please. But he has not died. He will return!"</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "You may be right..."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "Yes! And when he does, the truly loyal will be separated from the hypocrites who only give lip-service to his righteous name. Tell me, what is your name, and where do your loyalties lie?"</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Cyanide. I serve the Overlord."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "Excellent! Then for the sake of duty to your Overlord, you must assist me, Cyanide. Together we will contact him and learn his will!"</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "How is that possible? Do you know where he is?"</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "It doesn't matter where he is. I have recovered a device known as Tinmizer's Magnificent Messenger from the war room in Dethknell Citadel.The Overlord used it during tactical situations to communicate with the knights in the field."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "How does it work?"</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "I don't really know. I found the instruction manual on how to configure it, but the mechanism of it is beyond my knowledge of tinkering. It can project images and sounds to and from a person at any distance, even on different planes. And I know how to set it to target the Overlord."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Then why do you need my help?"</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "In the backlash of the citadel's collapse, the translocation magic required to get in and out was activated randomly. Many objects were displaced, and this artifact was among them. I found it outside among the rubble, with a few pieces missing."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Then you want me to find these pieces?"</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "That's right. The manual gives ridiculous names for these parts, but they're rather mundane in appearance: a lens, a prism and an antenna. I know for a fact that they aren't among the rubble anymore. They must have been picked up."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Tell me about the lens."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "Tinmizer's Luminous Lens will look like a normal magnifying glass, except for one key difference. It focuses images from other places. Even in a dark room, it will project a spot of light, and looking through it is somewhat like viewing a kaleidoscope."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Tell me about the prism."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "Tinmizer's Pellucid Prism is shaped like a regular prism and seems to work like one when the Messenger is running, but it vanishes when the device is turned off. You're looking for an invisible piece of glass."</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Tell me about the antenna."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "Tinmizer's Amazing Antenna looks somewhat like the antenna of a lobster, but is made of blue metal. "</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "Alright. I'll start looking now."</p><p>Sir Tallen Yevix says to you, "Ask around in the various districts about the whereabouts of these items. I am sure they were picked up but I know not by whom. They can't have gone very far. Good luck!"</p><p>You say to Sir Tallen Yevix, "No problem."</p>

Xalmat
11-19-2009, 09:05 PM
<p>By the way, fights are now breaking out all over Freeport.</p>

Windslasher
11-19-2009, 09:12 PM
<p>I got a sticky thread for feedback on this event now.</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=462935" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=462935</a></p><p>And more ambient population for Freeport is on the way <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Meirril
11-19-2009, 09:30 PM
<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>By the way, fights are now breaking out all over Freeport.</p></blockquote><p>Its good to see Freeport celebrating in its most time honored tradition. Innoruk must be pleased.</p>

Xalmat
11-19-2009, 09:34 PM
<p>Oooooh, now THAT is a plot twist. I shant spoil it further just yet.</p><p>/tease</p><p>*Edited to remove irrelevant information*</p>

Xalmat
11-20-2009, 03:10 AM
<p>By the way, Tallen Yevix is not who she appears to be.</p>

Doggi
11-20-2009, 04:44 AM
ah... you're mean, I'd like to know^^ sitting at work and won't come home until after midnight <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Xalmat
11-20-2009, 05:45 AM
<p>I'll give you a hint: <span>Tallen Yevix is very closely related to a character that you meet on the Outpost of the Overlord...</span></p><p>The Queen's side of the story is quite interesting as well. Very...surprising attitude she has towards her arch enemy.</p><p>If someone doesn't post it beforehand, I'll post a full synopsis tomorrow evening.</p>

shadowscale
11-20-2009, 08:15 AM
<p>wow... for such a short chain of quests this is big lore...</p><p>the void has more influence then expected...</p>

Zabjade
11-21-2009, 07:09 AM
<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Curse of the Bayle Bloodline makes me wonder if Lucan has Bayle Blood in him...</span></p>

Larkverdin
11-24-2009, 03:44 PM
<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'll give you a hint: <span>Tallen Yevix is very closely related to a character that you meet on the Outpost of the Overlord...</span></p><p>The Queen's side of the story is quite interesting as well. Very...surprising attitude she has towards her arch enemy.</p><p>If someone doesn't post it beforehand, I'll post a full synopsis tomorrow evening.</p></blockquote><p>Zomg, you're killing me with this. I haven't done anything on test, gonna wait till this goes live, but I think I have a vague idea as to what's gone on. Care to elaborate Xalmat?</p><p>p.s. I cannot tell you how stoked I am to finally see Lucan & his stupid city fall. Glory to Neriak!!</p>

FreaklyCreak
11-25-2009, 04:45 AM
<p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;"> </p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">Sir <strong>Vallius Bayle</strong> was a knight, an adventurer, and a descendant (possibly if not probably the son) of the progenitor of his house, <a title="Bayle" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Bayle">Bayle</a> the Ethernaut.</p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">As an adventurer, Sir Vallius is known to have traveled to "The Tower of Solus" and the heart of <a title="Neriak, City of Hate" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Neriak,_City_of_Hate">Neriak, City of Hate</a>, as well as the subterranean continent beneath present-day <a title="Antonica" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Antonica">Antonica</a> known as Subtunaria. It was there that he discovered the <a class="new" title="Duchy of the Dead (page does not exist)" rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/index.php?title=Duchy_of_the_Dead&action=edit&redlink=1">Duchy of the Dead</a> and encountered the legendary sword <a title="Soulfire" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Soulfire">Soulfire</a>, surrounded by Tier'Dal priests.</p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">As the legend goes, when the holy men departed, Vallius crept up to touch the hilt of the sword. It spoke to him, saying:</p><dl><dd><em>"I am Aeteok of the right hand of Theer and this is my gift to my other."</em></dd></dl><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">A crimson circle appeared before Vallius and then runes appeared. Vallius would not understand this vision until his time with the <a class="new" title="Order of Marr (page does not exist)" rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/index.php?title=Order_of_Marr&action=edit&redlink=1">Order of Marr</a>. It was then that <a title="High Lord William Taros" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/High_Lord_William_Taros">High Lord William Taros</a> shared his knowledge of <a title="Soulfire" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Soulfire">Soulfire</a>, and Vallius began his odyssey to learn the origin and purpose of the sword. His quest lasted a full quatrain. The path lead him to his former village kingdom and to the obelisk of shadows. <em>(Source: Dialog from the quest <a title="Knights in the Round" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Knights_in_the_Round">Knights in the Round</a>)</em></p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">Vallius was responsible for delivering the <a title="Qeynos" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Qeynos">Qeynos</a> Claymore to the humans of Oceangreen, the village that later became <a title="Qeynos" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Qeynos">Qeynos</a>.</p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;"> </p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">Ariska Zimel is the ancestor of <a title="Ardan Zimel" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Ardan_Zimel">Ardan Zimel</a>. His was a family of Blacksmiths from Freeport. They were fairly well known for their skill.</p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">Some time during his travels, Ariska came upon a battle between disciples of hate and a band of dark knights. As these two fought, Ariska spied the glinting blade of <a title="Soulfire" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Soulfire">Soulfire</a>within a campsite. He crept up and rescued the blade from the clutches of evil. Ariska carried the blade far from the fiery fields to his shop in Freeport, Zimel's Blades. It was there that he spent some time examining the blade, always knowing it had magic secrets, but never able to unlock them. A day came when the legendary Antonius Bayle, the Great Defender, visited Zimel's Blades. Along with him came Lady Shay, a beautiful Koada'Dal aristocrat. Antonius brought with him a claymore for Ariska to examine. Ariska examined the sword and found nothing but indecipherable runes unlike any he had seen before. He brushed his hand across the odd script. Unable to tell the great Antonius any information of its origins, the blade left with its owner. Later on that evening, Ariska was oddly drawn to another examination of <a title="Soulfire" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Soulfire">Soulfire</a>. Many times he had researched the blade and many times he found nothing. But this time as he grazed his hand over the blade something very strange occurred." As Ariska ran his hand across the blade, red runes appeared... runes that matched those of the claymore of Antonius Bayle. Suddenly, as Ariska tried to make sense of the situation, he fell unconscious and dreamt. In his arcane slumber, Ariska had a dark vision of a city of the undead. He walked untouched along the streets of <a title="Freeport" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Freeport">Freeport</a>. All around he could see lumbering undead searching for living flesh. These creatures could not see Ariska. As Ariska continued his nightmarish journey of Freeport, he could see the occasional Freeportian running or hiding for their life. Whether barricaded behind doors or standing defiantly in rows of shields and spears, the undead claimed the living as their feast. Not knowing when this nightmare would end, Ariska walked on. He came upon the floating tower of the mages, now a fortress to a ruler. Looking up, he spied an evil figure upon the balcony. This dark cloaked knight looked down upon the city of the dead.Ariska drew closer to the floating citadel and to his surprise the figure removed his hood and revealed himself to be Sir <a title="Lucan D'Lere" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Lucan_D%27Lere">Lucan D'Lere</a>, fallen crusader of the Knights of Truth. The fallen paladin unsheathed his blade and pointed it down towards Ariksa. As he smiled an evil grin, Ariska noticed the blade. Sir Lucan wielded the same sword he had found... <a title="Soulfire" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Soulfire">Soulfire</a>. As he realized this, Ariska fell into blackness and awoke. After the shock of the vision had dissipated, Ariska visited the Temples of Marr in North Freeport. After revealing his dream to the high priests, it was declared that <a title="Soulfire" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Soulfire">Soulfire</a> must be hidden so that the evil of the prophecy could not fall true.</p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;"> </p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">The origins of this magical blade are the stuff of legend. It has been claimed by both paladins and shadow knights at various times in history and has felled opponents both treacherous and noble. Some claim that the souls of those slain by this weapon are trapped within the sword itself. It is said that if you look closely at the glinting metal under the bright sun, you can see subtle visages of faces shrieking in torment. This sword was originally found by dark elves in the Underfoot, and it remained in the Teir'Dal Empire for centuries before it was stolen by a band of adventurers. Taken from Neriak's vaults, it passed through many hands and eventually found its way to the great trade city of Freeport. Disassembled by some unknown entity, its pieces were scattered around Norrath. As its legend grew and adventurers attempted to find the sword, fragments were gradually discovered. Eventually one courageous paladin collected all the lost pieces, and the sword magically reassembled of its own will. The valorous Order of Marr knew its power and quickly hid it far from the empires of man in a secluded fortress called Marr. But it was again stolen and disappeared for years, eventually ending up in the hands of the Avatar of War as he led the Rallosian Empire in a massive assault on Freeport. At the <a title="The Battle of Defiance" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/The_Battle_of_Defiance">Battle of Defiance</a> the Avatar was slain, and Soulfire was snatched from his dead clutches by the evil ruler of Freeport - the fallen paladin known as Lucan D'Lere. To this day the Overlord wields its fiery blade to inspire fear in the hearts of his subjects.</span></p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;"> </p><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em;">Just tossing this info into the fray...</p>