City Festival Feedback and bugs [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Kaitheel

11-06-2009, 08:52 PM

The Far Seas Trading Company is proud to introduce a traveling festival for all to participate in! When this event goes live a different city will be chosen to host this week long event, once a month. Gorowyn, Neriak, Kelethin and Freeport will each get their chance to host their version of the event. On Test and Test Copy the great city of Qeynos is the first to find the traveling caravan outside it's gates in Antonica. Adventurers will find new quests, collections and rewards, many of which are city specific! And for those of us that don't want to wait for the festival to reach our city's gates, we don't have to. City Tokens are now being given as further reward for completing city writs! Please assemble any feedback and bugs that you may find in this thread. Thank you, everyone!

Xalmat

11-06-2009, 09:01 PM

Nice!Is this a permanent thing?

Chikkin

11-06-2009, 09:15 PM

wow! (pun intended) I love it!carnies!

hellfire

11-06-2009, 09:18 PM

Coolios...suggested something like this a few times...hope there will be plenty to do.Hopefully will be some activities besides quests.Perhaps some pvp challenges....games of chance and skill...goofy costumes....food and drink...contests...so on and so forth.

Purr

11-06-2009, 09:21 PM

OMG - you guys rock! You even have my favorite outfit back!!! *Happy cat*Now, one question: Will those festival guys have an NPC who exchanges tokens from past events for city token? Doesn't have to be 1:1 ...And thanks, I love this idea!Purr~

Xalmat

11-06-2009, 09:36 PM

I like the dresses. I especially like the Gis. The new furniture is VERY nice too. The prices all seem reasonable for these.I sure hope this is permanent!

Kaitheel

11-06-2009, 09:43 PM

It is indeed intended to be a permanent thing, much like the Moonlight Enchantments. And it will certainly grow as the months go on! But I don't want it to sound as if I am taking credit for this wonderful content. Domino was the talented designer behind this event. She just wasn't in today and we wanted everyone to be able to play test it this weekend.As for the token exchange merchant, that is something we want to do. If it doesn't make it in for this GU, then know that it is in store!

Purr

11-06-2009, 09:52 PM

Thanks Kaitheel, that would be great! And a big thanks to Domino, now we know what she was hinting at .-) She was so secretive...BTW: First bug: red festival lantern (shouldn't that be: Red Festival Lantern?) when placed, vanishes half into the floor while moving. It can be moved higher to keep it out of the ground, but I think it's point zero on the vertical axis needs to be raised.

Xalmat

11-06-2009, 09:53 PM

Good to hear Kaitheel.How come none of the Gis can be permanently purchased? Most of the fancy dresses can be permanently purchased for 10 tokens, but none of the Gis can be.

Catria

11-06-2009, 10:30 PM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Good to hear Kaitheel.How come none of the Gis can be permanently purchased? Most of the fancy dresses can be permanently purchased for 10 tokens, but none of the Gis can be.</blockquote>I also love the gi's and think they should be available in permanent forms.... actually all the temp outfits could be made purchasable as permanent forms. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So far I'm loving all the new house items and such. Domino has outdone herself again! YAY!Question... is there more than one collection available or is there one per city? Also, some have mentioned finding white shinies in Qeynos that aren't collectibles... what are these for?Will the festival be moving around quickly on test and test_copy so we can try out the new content for the other cities as well?

Chikkin

11-06-2009, 10:33 PM

how long will the festival stay by each town? the whole month?

Mynervia

11-06-2009, 10:59 PM

<cite>Ennia wrote:</cite><blockquote>how long will the festival stay by each town? the whole month?</blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote> a different city will be chosen to host this week long event, once a month.</blockquote>Sounds like it lasts 1 week each time. ie 1 week active, 3-4 weeks off, give or take.

hellfire

11-06-2009, 11:00 PM

<cite>Ennia wrote:</cite><blockquote>how long will the festival stay by each town? the whole month?</blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>When this event goes live a different city will be chosen to host this week long event, once a month. </blockquote>Lasts a week.......... the city changes each month looks like.

Chikkin

11-07-2009, 12:05 AM

doh! thanks, I missed it somehowanother question:why are white shinies in Qeynos not marked collectibles? bug or what?

Foolsfolly

11-07-2009, 12:36 AM

Yay, Dynamic content!I said I wanted something more like this after moonlight enchantment came out, and here it is. Thankyou for listening!

Kamimura

11-07-2009, 12:58 AM

<cite>Purr wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW: First bug: red festival lantern (shouldn't that be: Red Festival Lantern?) when placed, vanishes half into the floor while moving. It can be moved higher to keep it out of the ground, but I think it's point zero on the vertical axis needs to be raised.</blockquote>Having the same problem, as well.

Chikkin

11-07-2009, 01:45 AM

purple shinies from South Qeynos sell to vendor for 1silver 60 some copper, the other white shinies sell for 11 and are missing a collectible tag

Lillaanya

11-07-2009, 02:15 AM

fishing does not count for the harvesting quest

Purr

11-07-2009, 02:20 AM

Actually all colors of those festival lanterns are that way <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Purr~

Domino

11-07-2009, 02:26 AM

<cite>Ennia wrote:</cite><blockquote>purple shinies from South Qeynos sell to vendor for 1silver 60 some copper, the other white shinies sell for 11 and are missing a collectible tag</blockquote>What are the names of some of the white shinies? There should be a purple collection associated with the city festivals (one collection per city), the collectible names are mail/postage related. Any other collectibles are probably something else unrelated, but if you can give us the names of a couple it'll help track them down. Also, thanks for Kaitheel for starting the festival up, and glad to hear everyone is enjoying it so far! I see I may have to check into Test server before next week <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Xalmat

11-07-2009, 02:34 AM

fine Ro sanddrop of mixed bloodshed amphibian skina piece of cloudA few of the regular shinies found in South Qeynos, but they aren't actually collectibles.

KerowynnKaotic

11-07-2009, 02:38 AM

Not only do we need the GIs as purchasable items .. can we get the Temporary ones changed to be purchased with in-game coins not Tokens? I like the option to purchase them for running around for a day but using a Token is a pita .. better to save them till you can purchase it for 'real' ..Also .. can the Qeynos Sign (and the similar city versions, I'd guess) be changed to Heirloom instead of No Trade?*dances with barely contained excitement over all the new goodies*

Kamimura

11-07-2009, 04:16 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ennia wrote:</cite><blockquote>purple shinies from South Qeynos sell to vendor for 1silver 60 some copper, the other white shinies sell for 11 and are missing a collectible tag</blockquote>What are the names of some of the white shinies? There should be a purple collection associated with the city festivals (one collection per city), the collectible names are mail/postage related. Any other collectibles are probably something else unrelated, but if you can give us the names of a couple it'll help track them down. </blockquote>To add a few more, I've also come across 'shed fairy wing' and 'lost imperial coin'. I'm seeing them in South Qeynos, they look like the standard white shinies, but don't add to a collection. I'm not seeing them in the other Qeynos zones.

madha

11-07-2009, 12:50 PM

can we make the tokens heirlom please i run alot of ts writs on alot of toons and it would be nice to combine the tokens for one trip to the merchants.Also the layout of their little area is awsome i love the beasts of burdons acctualy being burdoned. The drink merchant is abit silly none of the drinks i looked at had snything other then regen on them, maybe some illusions or more random effects on them.All in all Clerics need to load up on some odesy stones and marr teleport stones and have a field day, when the event comes to their town.

Barx

11-07-2009, 01:41 PM

Love the idea. You folks continue to surprise and impress =)Now, feedback:<ul><li>Let us get all 3 token quests from the questgiver at the same time. They're vastly different, I don't see why we should be restricted to having only one quest at a time -- I'd much rather grab all 3 and turn them in at the same time, save myself a bit of running-around.</li><li>Agree with making purchased house items Heirloom. (I see the tokens are already heirloom - good =) )</li><li>Oops: Looks like you folks added regular yellow shinies to SQ when they should be sinking-sands / DoF zones. Either that or crocodiles etc. are hiding in Qeynos <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> ((Also, those shinies cannot be added to any collection -- I'm guessing the collections either aren't set up properly yet or these were 'extra' items never intended to drop)) These seem to be partially taking the place of purple event shiny spawns.</li><li>Why L50 on the Qeynos collection?</li></ul>Regular yellow shinies I have seen in SQ have dropped:<ul><li>large crocodile tooth</li><li>scuffed dragon scale</li><li>fine Ro sand</li></ul>

Domino

11-07-2009, 02:02 PM

Thanks for all the feedback so far, and yes, those white shinies are unrelated to the City Festivals. I'm sure we can take a look into it on Monday to find out whose shinies they are that have gone astray, I think it's pretty safe to say it's a bug at present (feel free to /bug if you haven't already). <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Barx

11-07-2009, 02:22 PM

One (well one and a half) more piece(s) of Feedback:The qeynos sign is nice, but disappointing in a way. I was hoping it would be a sign in the sense of allowing you to change the 'hover-over' text, but instead it acts exactly like the magic mouth. Understandable, since the magic mouth is already implemented (while the sign that I want isn't yet implemented in game). However, the description text of the sign should make it clear that it 'says' things rather than display them like a regular in-game sign like you'd see in Qeynos.Also, a small bug with it: When you go to change the text or radius it still says "Magic Mouth" in the "How many meters should the Magic Mouth shout? and "What should the Magic Mouth say?" pop up windows, rather than "Qeynos sign".

Chikkin

11-07-2009, 03:21 PM

also on the subject of Qeynos Sign : can we lease have it tradable? they are NO-TRADE right now

Purr

11-07-2009, 09:00 PM

One Question: Will the vendors still have the same items for sale when they return to the same city (plus maybe a few more) or might it happen that the next time around some items are no longer available? I hope not. I'm never sure what I will need next month and hate to buy on a guess.Please set my mind at ease here. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" /> Thanks.Purr~

Rheassi

11-08-2009, 12:48 PM

I have really enjoyed the fesitval so far..My Feedback:<ul><li>Love the marble house items.. Had no problems placing or useing any of the walls or the floor tile I bought.. </li><li>I would like to be able to take all 3 festival quests at one time. Doing the Qeynos festial with my evil means running to another town to do the crafting part so would be nice to be able to do the harvesting and pickup quests as I go.</li><li>Would deftinally like to see the local specials vendor stay the same each time he comes.. Meaning if new things are added each month please do not remove the old.. Iam assuming that each city will have its own local special vendor so that means it could take a while to complete collections since there are so many cities in the rotation. Leaving the wares the same when adding new stuff makes it easier for us to finish out what we want to buy later on when it returns to that city.</li><li>I would rather see the City sign as a hover over instead of it duplicating the magic mouth.. Be nice to use it in a shop area in your home that way.. Just makes more sense for a sign to have a hover over instead of talking <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></li><li>I ejoyed the collection part and thank you for not making them no trade.. I ran one of my goodies though Qeynos to collect them for my evils.</li></ul>Questions:<ul><li>How long will the festival remain in each city? </li><li>Will it only appear once a month or just once a month in each city? I was a little unclear on this point.</li><li>Will there be any adventure type quests added for thoses who like that kinda thing? </li></ul>Thanks for a great festival!Rheassi/KealinaTest Server

madha

11-08-2009, 07:43 PM

Ok after testing the quests for qeynos. How much longer till you force the event to another city? Would like to test all the quests from each section as well as what ever items i can purchase.

Whilhelmina

11-08-2009, 07:43 PM

So, here is my feedback. I'll mostly duplicate the one made by Rheassi.I love this festival and I love the way it's pointing at the Isle of Mara.The temporary garbs are a nice touch. The fortune teller was right in it's prediction <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I like the food and drnks, even if they don't give illusions or emotes.I would love to be able to get the 3 quests at the same time. It would save a lot of runing around.House items are great. I really hope they will stay from one time to the other, or at least when the fair is in a city of the same alignement. For exemple, the qeynos items could be found in Kelethin and Halas fair. I can wait 2 months to get back items but I would prefer not to wait 6 monthes. Right now, I have a lot of ideas for house designs using white marble, but I would love to see Freeport or Neriak items before starting to create something and... well, I have too many house items in my crates "just in case" already.Question : will the city tokens remain when doing City Tasks when the fair is not "up" ?

Kamimura

11-09-2009, 12:06 PM

So, after a good bit of enjoying the festival, here's my random feedback on it.. I like the clothes, but I wish all the temporary clothes were available in a permenant form rather than just some of them. I also think it would be nice if the sign was a mouse over effect rather than one like the magic mouth. Being able to get all three of the quests at once would be good. All the items should either be tradeable or heirloom. Also, I think all of the baskets should be able to scale down a bit more, a click or two more would be nice.I can't decide how I feel about the length of time before the fair would return to one city. As it is we'd be waiting more than half a year to see it return to Qeynos. Now, on one hand, that's not that long when you consider that we do wait a full year for most seasonal events to return. On the other hand, that is a large chunk of time espeically when we hold it next to our other event like this, the moonlight grottos. (Maybe a week on, two off, instead of three or more? Dunno.. just random thoughts, since again I can't decide how I feel about the time thing. :p)Also, poor Maj'Dul won't be getting any love? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />As for the good? I love love love that we're getting those lanterns. I've been jealous of the wanderlust fair since it launched. :p (Now if only we could get those strings of lights..) I really enjoy the concept of the event, as well as actually participating in it. I also like that there's room for growth here as the fair goes on. Not just in house items (as much as I love those, hehe) but perhaps in other ways as well. A new entertaining NPC now and then, other interesting little items and the like. I look forward to seeing how it grows and changes over time. The items all seem very reasonably priced, and I also like that all city writs give one token as well so we can save up for the next time the fair is going. Will we be seeing the fair hit the other cities on test before they go live (either before the next GU, or before they happen each month on live)?

Gungo

11-09-2009, 04:29 PM

The problem is the magic mouth is a limited time event where this is a reoccuring reward. I say keep this version as a magic mouth version and add a new type at another city that is just the mouse over version. I always disliked items that were limited time only items. I dont mind items that are reoccuring as long as you know eventually you will have a chance to reobtain them.

Kaitheel

11-09-2009, 04:33 PM

<cite>Sorako@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ennia wrote:</cite><blockquote>purple shinies from South Qeynos sell to vendor for 1silver 60 some copper, the other white shinies sell for 11 and are missing a collectible tag</blockquote>What are the names of some of the white shinies? There should be a purple collection associated with the city festivals (one collection per city), the collectible names are mail/postage related. Any other collectibles are probably something else unrelated, but if you can give us the names of a couple it'll help track them down. </blockquote>To add a few more, I've also come across 'shed fairy wing' and 'lost imperial coin'. I'm seeing them in South Qeynos, they look like the standard white shinies, but don't add to a collection. I'm not seeing them in the other Qeynos zones.</blockquote>Thank you for the details, Sorako! Good catch, one and all! Those particular shinies are part of a different live event coming up. And are now fixed. I don't know when the fix will make it to the Test servers, but it is on its way!

Kaitheel

11-09-2009, 04:41 PM

To answer some of the more general questions:The event is planned to run for one week (7 days) per month. Every month it will appear at a different city. For instance, if the event runs in Kelethin in December, then the next event will run in Gorowyn in January, and so on.The City Tokens can be gained even while the event is inactive through city writ quests.City Tokens gained in any city can be spent in any festival location. So, Tokens gained in Qeynos, can still be spent while the event is being held outside Freeport in the Commonlands.I hope this helps to clarify!

Domino

11-09-2009, 05:00 PM

<cite>Purr wrote:</cite><blockquote>One Question: Will the vendors still have the same items for sale when they return to the same city (plus maybe a few more) or might it happen that the next time around some items are no longer available? I hope not. I'm never sure what I will need next month and hate to buy on a guess.Please set my mind at ease here. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" /> Thanks.Purr~</blockquote>The general merchant will be present in every city with the exact same items for sale at all festivals. These are items the Far Seas group think will sell well in every city.The city specialties merchant will sell different specialties in every city. These are boutique items that the Far Seas traders think will sell better in some cities than others! So the items currently for sale at the Qeynos festival will only be sold when the festival returns to Qeynos again the next time. They will not be sold in Kelethin or any other city festival, the merchant will be selling other special items that he thinks those cities will be more interested in. It's all about maximizing the profit for the Far Seas, of course!At this point I can't see any reason why items would be removed from any of the merchants between one festival and the next (unless they are horribly bugged I suppose, which we hope will never be the case). However, there will quite likely be more new items appearing over time, as those Far Seas merchants are always on the lookout to make more profit and expand their sales inventory.I've changed the signs to be heirloom instead of no trade, and added some descriptive prose to make it more clear they work like the magic mouth.We do not plan to activate all the separate city festivals on Test server before the game update goes live. Apart from the specialty items for sale, they are not significantly different, and there are a lot of other exciting events to test before the update goes live!Thanks again for all the feedback. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Jesdyr

11-09-2009, 05:00 PM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>To answer some of the more general questions:The event is planned to run for one week (7 days) per month. Every month it will appear at a different city. For instance, if the event runs in Kelethin in December, then the next event will run in Gorowyn in January, and so on.The City Tokens can be gained even while the event is inactive through city writ quests.City Tokens gained in any city can be spent in any festival location. So, Tokens gained in Qeynos, can still be spent while the event is being held outside Freeport in the Commonlands.I hope this helps to clarify!</blockquote>Are the rewards going to be the same in each city ?

Eveningsong

11-09-2009, 05:26 PM

* points up ^ *

Jesdyr

11-09-2009, 05:40 PM

<cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote>* points up ^ *</blockquote>So I was what less then a minute off <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Purr

11-09-2009, 06:09 PM

Thanks Domino, I can live with having to wait for the faire to come back. Thanks for clearing that up. *happy cat*Purr~

Svetty

11-10-2009, 01:24 AM

These events take place within the cities themselves and not just out in the wilds around them, correct?So, on pvp servers players will only be able to really participate in the events taking place in their factions cities. This allows Freeporters the ability to partcipate in this event 3 out of every 5 months with little to no worry; while, this only allows Qeynosians the ability to participate in 2 out of every 5 months. Gorowyn is not considered a neutral city in pvp.Am I understanding this is the way it is being run or have I missed something?

Howlingmoon

11-10-2009, 01:37 AM

illaria

11-10-2009, 01:48 PM

You can also earn faction tokens by doing writs for your own city and then purchase the items for sale in antonica / commonlands. I guess you might have a hard time getting shinies but that will just make it all the more exciting

Eveningsong

11-10-2009, 01:56 PM

The Qeynos festival is setup in Antonica right outside the NQ gates, and I presume it will be a similar setup at the other cities. So it should be pretty much safe for folks to attend any festival, as long as they are cautious about not getting too close to guards that might be at city gates or possibly on patrol (such as in Darklight Woods). However, the only purple shinies I saw were actually inside NQ, so I'm not sure if they were also spawning out in Antonica. It may require people to do some sneaking through cities in search of shinies for other cities, but that just adds to the fun! Its not hard to get into any of the opposite alignment cities safely except Neriak at lower levels, you just have to watch for the occasional wandering aggro guards and be prepared to die occasionally <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

Branelan

11-10-2009, 02:11 PM

My observations go along with what everyone else has said here (new house items, yay!); my one question about the tokens for city tasks is to make sure that City Tradeskill writs are included...?

Kamimura

11-10-2009, 05:00 PM

<cite>Branelan@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>My observations go along with what everyone else has said here (new house items, yay!); my one question about the tokens for city tasks is to make sure that City Tradeskill writs are included...?</blockquote>They are. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Domino

11-10-2009, 09:01 PM

<cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>These events take place within the cities themselves and not just out in the wilds around them, correct?So, on pvp servers players will only be able to really participate in the events taking place in their factions cities. This allows Freeporters the ability to partcipate in this event 3 out of every 5 months with little to no worry; while, this only allows Qeynosians the ability to participate in 2 out of every 5 months. Gorowyn is not considered a neutral city in pvp.Am I understanding this is the way it is being run or have I missed something?</blockquote>No, that's incorrect. They are not inside the cities, with the exception of Gorowyn, whose guards don't object to anybody of either alignment.The Far Seas merchants aren't going to wheel entire caravans into the city and block up the streets, so they have set up their festival market area outside the city gates where possible. It should be safe for players of any alignment to visit the festivals in all cities, although admittedly PvP players will find an additional level of hazard, but that will come from other players, not NPCs...The Qeynos festival currently on Test server is in Antonica, in front of the North Qeynos gate (out of range of guards), where the path branches.The Freeport festival is along the path between the Crossroads and the Freeport griffon tower.The Kelethin festival is on the grassy hill down the ramp from Kelethin, where the stables are.The Neriak festival is in the grassy area between Neriak and the chasm. This is probably the most roundabout to get to as lower level good players will need to run around the edge of the chasm to avoid the bridge guards, but it's definitely not hard if you want to.The Gorowyn festival is on the lowest level of Gorowyn, in the cave just up from the dock. This is admittedly going to be the riskiest for PvPers, but if you want to mount a festival invasion raid force and try it, there's nothing to stop you. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />There IS a purple shiny collection within each city and it will be problematic for those unwelcome in those cities to collect those, but the collections and rewards are completely equivalent, and anyway the shinies are fully tradeable if you really don't believe me on that. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Samovila

11-10-2009, 09:51 PM

<cite>Gungo wrote:</cite><blockquote> I say keep this version as a magic mouth version and add a new type at another city that is just the mouse over version.</blockquote>Was just thinking I'd love to have a mouse over house item like a sign.

Anthise

11-10-2009, 10:45 PM

*Sighs happily*Wow... I thought I had forgotten how much I loved Festivals. As some of the old RPer's who have played the muds GS and DR can attest there is nothing that is more fun than a good festie! Spending all your plat of the latest must haves (even for items you could only surmise their worth by their horrific prices), waiting in lines at alterers for that one of a kind item, the story telling, the silly games and food... We used to live for festivals and I cannot even count the number of times ones brought me back to play again. It is amazing what an infusion of items can do for we house and item geeks. WHEEEE I am beyond happy! And house items to boot! Awesome!Thank you Kaitheel and Domino and all the others who have taken the time to make us some many beautiful new things!This is what makes EQ2 such a wonderful place, Devs who actually do listen and care.Galya

Rijacki

11-11-2009, 04:24 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Freeport festival is along the path between the Crossroads and the Freeport griffon tower.</blockquote>Is that where the agro wolf (green con at mid to late teens) runs 'round in a loop through the trees or nearer to where the wasps are (with the agro wasps rather close by)?For PvP, the point of contention, I think, is you become "carnage flagged" when you are in a city of an opposing alignment making you fair game no matter the level difference.If not for the fact G'Fay was so empty when I was running with my bruiser on the forest floor -near- Kelethin, I would have been in dire straights without knowing I was at risk since, without actually having any indication you're "in" the city (i.e. your on the forest floor waaaaaaay beneath it) you're flagged and the flag persists for a while. At least a 3rd of the non-Nursery part of G'Fay will flag you if you're not a Q. (it's been quite a few months since I was there, so I'm not 100% sure there wasn't a change, but I don't remember reading any change called out in Release Notes).Not only is the location of the Garowyn fair prime for the carnage flag, I believe the Kelethin one might be as well. If that's considered in city limits, it's flag territory.Now... anyone who does attack someone carnage flagged gets flagged as well. But, anyone of the alignment in that same territory is safe from any attack. (there's a better word for it but I can't think of it... geeesh)

Calain80

11-11-2009, 08:01 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Freeport festival is along the path between the Crossroads and the Freeport griffon tower.</blockquote>I don't know if someone already mentioned it, but please make sure it is not to close to the griffin tower. As as it sounds here it could be that Far Seas merchants put their tents exactly where the adds of the Avatar of Valor spawn. I don't know if they will be happy if a horde of wild angry animals spawn in the middle of the fair and are greeted with storms of fire, ice, stones and poison. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

MrWolfie

11-11-2009, 08:38 AM

<cite>Samovila wrote:</cite><blockquote>Was just thinking I'd love to have a mouse over house item like a sign.</blockquote>Use a player-made book. Like this:<img src="http://i35.tinypic.com/5xqvc1.jpg" width="464" height="390" />

kreepr

11-11-2009, 10:43 AM

<cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Freeport festival is along the path between the Crossroads and the Freeport griffon tower.</blockquote>Is that where the agro wolf (green con at mid to late teens) runs 'round in a loop through the trees or nearer to where the wasps are (with the agro wasps rather close by)?For PvP, the point of contention, I think, is you become "carnage flagged" when you are in a city of an opposing alignment making you fair game no matter the level difference.If not for the fact G'Fay was so empty when I was running with my bruiser on the forest floor -near- Kelethin, I would have been in dire straights without knowing I was at risk since, without actually having any indication you're "in" the city (i.e. your on the forest floor waaaaaaay beneath it) you're flagged and the flag persists for a while. At least a 3rd of the non-Nursery part of G'Fay will flag you if you're not a Q. (it's been quite a few months since I was there, so I'm not 100% sure there wasn't a change, but I don't remember reading any change called out in Release Notes).Not only is the location of the Garowyn fair prime for the carnage flag, I believe the Kelethin one might be as well. If that's considered in city limits, it's flag territory.Now... anyone who does attack someone carnage flagged gets flagged as well. But, anyone of the alignment in that same territory is safe from any attack. (there's a better word for it but I can't think of it... geeesh)</blockquote>Contention for PVP is an area or mob that is accessible by all and can be controlled by one side or the other threw the use of mass numbers or skill. So carnage flagging has nothing to do with contesting anything. In G'fay the area below the city is considered part of the city and any evil player crossing the invisible line will get a carnage timer on their screen with a 30sec countdown. As long as you pay attention you wont get flagged. The area that Domino is talking about is not a carnage area from what I remeber. It is just outside the invisible line, close but not within it.I don't believe anyone gets carnage flagged in Garowyn. I have seen many low level Q's running around there and standing afk by the broker at the dock. As far as the CL fair there is an area as you come out of the Crossroads towards the Griff tower the field right there is open and no aggro on the one side of the path thats most likely where it will be placed.

Beajay

11-11-2009, 11:04 AM

My family loves the new city festival event. Now if we could just have one week each for the city festival, tinkerfest, shroom rings, and one other event (besides the world event) I can't imagine how anyone could claim they are bored. Of course I can't imagine how anyone could say that with a straight face anyway unless they are way overplaying the game.I also agree with previous posters that we need a merchant to exchange old coin we have clogging up our banks. We worked hard for the coin and it would be nice if we could get something useful with it.Domino: You are doing a really great job enhancing the game. You are a gem <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Katz

11-11-2009, 02:05 PM

Thanks for adding the city festivals!

Svetty

11-12-2009, 02:03 AM

<cite>kreepr13 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Contention for PVP is an area or mob that is accessible by all and can be controlled by one side or the other threw the use of mass numbers or skill. So carnage flagging has nothing to do with contesting anything. In G'fay the area below the city is considered part of the city and any evil player crossing the invisible line will get a carnage timer on their screen with a 30sec countdown. As long as you pay attention you wont get flagged. The area that Domino is talking about is not a carnage area from what I remeber. It is just outside the invisible line, close but not within it.I don't believe anyone gets carnage flagged in Garowyn. I have seen many low level Q's running around there and standing afk by the broker at the dock. As far as the CL fair there is an area as you come out of the Crossroads towards the Griff tower the field right there is open and no aggro on the one side of the path thats most likely where it will be placed. </blockquote>What Rijacki was saying was exactly what I was getting at. It has nothing to do with contention or contesting anything. If you go into Gorowyn and are a Q over level 10 you will receive a carnage flag allowing anyone, despite their level, to kill you. Now, the guards there will not pester you but those level 80 freepers one shotting level 10 Q's trying to participate in the event can make the participation virtually impossible.

madha

11-12-2009, 09:02 AM

<cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kreepr13 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Contention for PVP is an area or mob that is accessible by all and can be controlled by one side or the other threw the use of mass numbers or skill. So carnage flagging has nothing to do with contesting anything. In G'fay the area below the city is considered part of the city and any evil player crossing the invisible line will get a carnage timer on their screen with a 30sec countdown. As long as you pay attention you wont get flagged. The area that Domino is talking about is not a carnage area from what I remeber. It is just outside the invisible line, close but not within it.I don't believe anyone gets carnage flagged in Garowyn. I have seen many low level Q's running around there and standing afk by the broker at the dock. As far as the CL fair there is an area as you come out of the Crossroads towards the Griff tower the field right there is open and no aggro on the one side of the path thats most likely where it will be placed. </blockquote>What Rijacki was saying was exactly what I was getting at. It has nothing to do with contention or contesting anything. If you go into Gorowyn and are a Q over level 10 you will receive a carnage flag allowing anyone, despite their level, to kill you. Now, the guards there will not pester you but those level 80 freepers one shotting level 10 Q's trying to participate in the event can make the participation virtually impossible.</blockquote>Why would you need to go into the city at all the event is outside the city?

kreepr

11-12-2009, 09:53 AM

<cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kreepr13 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Contention for PVP is an area or mob that is accessible by all and can be controlled by one side or the other threw the use of mass numbers or skill. So carnage flagging has nothing to do with contesting anything. In G'fay the area below the city is considered part of the city and any evil player crossing the invisible line will get a carnage timer on their screen with a 30sec countdown. As long as you pay attention you wont get flagged. The area that Domino is talking about is not a carnage area from what I remeber. It is just outside the invisible line, close but not within it.I don't believe anyone gets carnage flagged in Garowyn. I have seen many low level Q's running around there and standing afk by the broker at the dock. As far as the CL fair there is an area as you come out of the Crossroads towards the Griff tower the field right there is open and no aggro on the one side of the path thats most likely where it will be placed. </blockquote>What Rijacki was saying was exactly what I was getting at. It has nothing to do with contention or contesting anything. If you go into Gorowyn and are a Q over level 10 you will receive a carnage flag allowing anyone, despite their level, to kill you. Now, the guards there will not pester you but those level 80 freepers one shotting level 10 Q's trying to participate in the event can make the participation virtually impossible.</blockquote>My bad, I didn't realise anyone got flagged in Gorowyn. I have been carnaged in opposing cities under level 10. So seeing Q's on the dock area not carnaged standing there AFK, I figured none got flagged.

Enna

11-12-2009, 01:29 PM

Loving the carnival so far -The white marble goodies are gorgeous, and the fruit and veggie baskets are exactly what my kitchens needed, and... and... well, I could rave for a long time, but I'll spare you. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I will agree that it would be nice to be able to get all three quests at once. When running my not-so-nice character through there, I wished I could both do the crafting in Mara's Shin village and talk to the dwarf about supplies on the same run.However, if part of the point is to wear down shoe leather for future cobbler sales, I suppose it sort of makes sense... although nearly all the female attire is barefoot. *scratches head, pondering this oddity* Hard to make shoe sales that way!I'm trying not to be too impatient with curiosity about what local specialties may appear near other cities!Many thanks! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Chronia

11-12-2009, 04:18 PM

I haven't actually logged into test myself to check it out but I'm liking what I've read so far. My one concern is this: There are too many live events over-lapping and it makes it difficult to participate in them all, especially for people with full time jobs. October was a difficult month with the spire events, moonlight grottoes and nights of the dead all going on at once. Come December it will be the same but with frostfell replacing nights of the dead. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE live events and the items you can get from them, however it would be nice to have fewer of them going on at one time, or fewer over-lapping, so we can do one and focus on just one event at a time and still have enough time to do what we want and then be able to move onto another event afterwards. For October I felt rushed trying to get everything done in a restricted amount of time. I am hoping that this event will not coincide with the grotto events to help prevent that.I am always up for seeing more housing content, I LOVE housing in eq2 and spend alot of time gathering items and decorating so I'm glad to see more of it coming out. Also if anyone has any screen caps of the new items, outfits, etc. available I'd love to see them.

d1anaw

11-12-2009, 04:40 PM

Any hints on what is available at the various cities? The white marble stuff from Qeynos rocks.

Kamimura

11-12-2009, 04:53 PM

<cite>d1anaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any hints on what is available at the various cities? The white marble stuff from Qeynos rocks.</blockquote>At the anniversary party on test, Domino hinted that there may be more marble in different colors at the different cities.

Armawk

11-12-2009, 05:45 PM

<cite>Chronia wrote:</cite><blockquote>My one concern is this: There are too many live events over-lapping and it makes it difficult to participate in them all, especially for people with full time jobs. </blockquote>But the joy of the monthly events is that it doesnt matter if you dont attend the november one because it will be back again in december.. They arent like regular calendar events which at one a year would be very annoying to miss I would think.I dont actually think there can ever be too many events and story activites going on.. they bring the world to life and the population out of their instances and halls

SnoesieQ

11-12-2009, 06:18 PM

Currently on Test, the city festival is a bit stressful, because it's all new and if you want tokens you have to earn them within the week. In the future however you will be able to earn them doing normal city writs throughout the month, one token per ts or adv writ, so when the festival comes around next you will hopefully already have a stack of tokens and head straight for the merchants <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />I want more lanterns for instance, but have already decided on only buying the Qeynos items, and earn tokens during the next month, since now I have a shopping list ready.For those not on Test:You get 1 token per ts or adv writ, the quest giver at the festival have 3 quests, an artisan lvl 3 4-combine quest that grants 4 tokens, a delivery to Mara and back for 3 tokens, and a harvesting quest (25 harvests, so only a few nodes usually) for 2 tokens.The prices on the "normal" merchant ranges from 1 token (lots of baskets with fruits, veggies etc), floating lanterns 5 tokens, and outfits for 10. I've probably forgotten something, but those are the ranges.Every single thing on the Qeynos (this month only) vendor costs 2 tokens, so you can stock up fairly quickly.

Ansek

11-12-2009, 07:37 PM

Is there an achievement for participating in the festival, with a bigger achievement for participating in all six (including New Halas when it goes live)? If not, it might be an idea - like the Festive Spirit achievement.I can understand why there's not one for the Moonlight Enchantments (afterall it would take, what, 2hrs to do them all even with running around) but it will take six months to participate in all the Far Seas' festivals which seems long enough to merit a nod in the achievements dialogue page.

Minnie

11-12-2009, 08:10 PM

This is Lahmi on Test. I just wanted to say thank you to Domino for listening to us, and the new designs are amazing! I am having a great time with all of the new goodies. I would also love to see the appearance Gi's made permanent. They are so beautiful. Thank you for all your time and hard work. I can't wait to redo my kitchen with all the new little baskets and things! The only other input I have, is just to ask if the marble squares can be made roughly the same size as the green squares/planks/and sand. They seem to be a bit smaller. Just curious. =) Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!! Big hugs for Domino, and all the others who worked on this project.Lahmi D'Hala *Heroes of Test

Kamimura

11-12-2009, 08:47 PM

<cite>shaunfletcher wrote:</cite><blockquote>But the joy of the monthly events is that it doesnt matter if you dont attend the november one because it will be back again in december.. They arent like regular calendar events which at one a year would be very annoying to miss I would think.</blockquote>The thing is, if you miss the event in one city you have to wait over half a year to see it return there. Since there are specific items with each city that you can not get from the other cities, I could see how this would matter to some. However, as was said, since you can earn the tokens even while the even is not active I don't think it will be all that stressful. You can pile up tokens in advance, so it's like having more than a week to actually do the event in that sense. (Although, I also hope they don't pile up over the moonlight events as well.. perhaps the first seven days of the month, and leave the second half for the moonlight event? It would help making things feel more spread out. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )

Kaitheel

11-12-2009, 09:09 PM

<cite>Sorako@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>perhaps the first seven days of the month, and leave the second half for the moonlight event? It would help making things feel more spread out. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>That's the plan.

Enna

11-12-2009, 09:37 PM

<cite>Lillaanya wrote:</cite><blockquote>fishing does not count for the harvesting quest</blockquote>/bug sent in on that. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" />Only thing, besides inability to obtain all three quests at once, that I don't like!*applauds the team who made this happen*Edit: *mutters a few mildly unladylike things about typos*

Svetty

11-12-2009, 11:41 PM

<cite>madhatr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why would you need to go into the city at all the event is outside the city?</blockquote>Domino stated that the Gorowyn festival will be in bottom level within the city. That is why we are discussing the carnage flag in Gorowyn.

d1anaw

11-13-2009, 02:52 PM

One of the things I hate about sneaking into test and peeking is that I get antsy about waiting for it to appear on the regular servers.

DocFlareon

11-13-2009, 03:57 PM

<cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why would you need to go into the city at all the event is outside the city?</blockquote>Domino stated that the Gorowyn festival will be in bottom level within the city. That is why we are discussing the carnage flag in Gorowyn.</blockquote>I think she meant the Timorous Maw, which is the first cavern past the docks. And if memory serves, is outside the city proper.

Whilhelmina

11-14-2009, 08:02 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The city specialties merchant will sell different specialties in every city. These are boutique items that the Far Seas traders think will sell better in some cities than others! So the items currently for sale at the Qeynos festival will only be sold when the festival returns to Qeynos again the next time. They will not be sold in Kelethin or any other city festival, the merchant will be selling other special items that he thinks those cities will be more interested in. It's all about maximizing the profit for the Far Seas, of course!</blockquote>Thanks for the clarification and for this sweet event. But could you please reconsider the avaibility of city specialities and make them available at least on all cities of the same alignement ? So we don't have to stockpile house items "just in case" ?

Catria

11-14-2009, 12:15 PM

It just occurred to me that perhaps the city tokens as rewards for city and tradeskill writs could be put on the live servers NOW so we can start earning tokens for the first festival. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of stress trying to get the city-specific items we want the very first time it arrives. Think of it as the Far Seas group advertising in advance.This would give everyone about 2 weeks (I'm guessing this is meant to go live the first week of December) to stock up on tokens before the first festival.

Whilhelmina

11-14-2009, 05:05 PM

/support the idea

Arkenor

11-14-2009, 05:46 PM

Not enoughs cheeses.Every city is renowned for it's own varieties of super-delicious cheese, and this should not be forgottens! I was looking forwards to a nice slab of Halasian Red when the festival finaly got there.Please be fixings this terrible oversights, in the name of Ratonga everywheres, so's we can finish workings on our cheese rooms and know inner peace.

Yavie

11-14-2009, 08:50 PM

I absolutely LOVE the idea of the festival going to a different city for a week every month. I really like being able to do city writs and earn festival coins in between. It would be awesome if we could get all 3 quests at one time and do them. This is very, very cool. Fun, great looking and something to keep our interest. Thank you Domino!!

Domino

11-16-2009, 04:22 PM

<cite>Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>It just occurred to me that perhaps the city tokens as rewards for city and tradeskill writs could be put on the live servers NOW so we can start earning tokens for the first festival. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of stress trying to get the city-specific items we want the very first time it arrives. Think of it as the Far Seas group advertising in advance.This would give everyone about 2 weeks (I'm guessing this is meant to go live the first week of December) to stock up on tokens before the first festival.</blockquote>To avoid the festival overlapping Frostfell we are most likely going to have the first festival in January*. City writs will start awarding the tokens with the coming game update, however, so you can build up a nice little stockpile in preparation. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />* all plans on Test server subject to change without notice, of course!

Eveningsong

11-16-2009, 04:31 PM

Noooooo, we need the white marble tiles and dividers for our Frostfell homes!!! /cries

d1anaw

11-16-2009, 11:47 PM

<cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote>Noooooo, we need the white marble tiles and dividers for our Frostfell homes!!! /cries</blockquote>What she said.

Domino

11-17-2009, 12:07 AM

<cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote>Noooooo, we need the white marble tiles and dividers for our Frostfell homes!!! /cries</blockquote>Gosh, what makes you think those Far Seas traders would visit Qeynos again when it goes live? Perhaps all new house item surprises in a new city would be more fun anyway! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kamimura

11-17-2009, 12:12 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gosh, what makes you think those Far Seas traders would visit Qeynos again when it goes live? Perhaps all new house item surprises in a new city would be more fun anyway! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />

Purr

11-17-2009, 01:39 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote>Noooooo, we need the white marble tiles and dividers for our Frostfell homes!!! /cries</blockquote>Gosh, what makes you think those Far Seas traders would visit Qeynos again when it goes live? Perhaps all new house item surprises in a new city would be more fun anyway! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>/agree*eyes Neriak*

Whilhelmina

11-17-2009, 07:08 AM

Domino is evil <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Everybody knows that now <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I thought of something... If the festival is delayed on live until january, perhaps we could get another town to test in december on Test ? so we may check shinies poping and so on ?

Eveningsong

11-17-2009, 02:34 PM

Amphibia

11-18-2009, 11:15 AM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>To avoid the festival overlapping Frostfell we are most likely going to have the first festival in January*. City writs will start awarding the tokens with the coming game update, however, so you can build up a nice little stockpile in preparation. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />* all plans on Test server subject to change without notice, of course!</blockquote>Aww.. was looking forward to this with the next update! hehe... well, I suppose I can wait.But if you have to move it to January, any chance it could still be Qeynos? <hopeful, eyeing the white marble stuff> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />Kudos btw, this is an awesome idea and I really like how it's tied to writs. I usually have such a hard time finding motivation to do those, but now I have a very good reason to more of them!The furniture items are awesome, too <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />

rachelle

11-23-2009, 01:18 AM

I would sure love to see tapestries, draperies, carpets, and whatever other wall and floor coverings made available in a much wider variety of solid or "barely" patterned colors than are currently available. Particularly wall coverings that lay flat on the wall, and floor coverings that have a visible underside, and can be walked on. Perhaps this would be a good format for that sort of thing? MAYBE even recipe books that could be purchased from the merchants at the festivals?? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> More available colors would be fantastic for theme decorating or particular color schemes in homes. I'd personally give an important body part for the recipe book version, but would be tickled with them in whatever format.

Jesdyr

11-23-2009, 12:01 PM

Gneaux

11-28-2009, 08:37 PM

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>It just occurred to me that perhaps the city tokens as rewards for city and tradeskill writs could be put on the live servers NOW so we can start earning tokens for the first festival. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of stress trying to get the city-specific items we want the very first time it arrives. Think of it as the Far Seas group advertising in advance.This would give everyone about 2 weeks (I'm guessing this is meant to go live the first week of December) to stock up on tokens before the first festival.</blockquote>To avoid the festival overlapping Frostfell we are most likely going to have the first festival in January*. City writs will start awarding the tokens with the coming game update, however, so you can build up a nice little stockpile in preparation. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />* all plans on Test server subject to change without notice, of course!</blockquote>Will tokens also be given for city tradeskill writs since they are also city specific?

Whilhelmina

11-29-2009, 10:21 AM

They are given for Tradeskill writs on test.

Chikkin

11-30-2009, 12:34 PM

<cite>Gneaux@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>It just occurred to me that perhaps the city tokens as rewards for city and tradeskill writs could be put on the live servers NOW so we can start earning tokens for the first festival. Otherwise, there's going to be a lot of stress trying to get the city-specific items we want the very first time it arrives. Think of it as the Far Seas group advertising in advance.This would give everyone about 2 weeks (I'm guessing this is meant to go live the first week of December) to stock up on tokens before the first festival.</blockquote>To avoid the festival overlapping Frostfell we are most likely going to have the first festival in January*. City writs will start awarding the tokens with the coming game update, however, so you can build up a nice little stockpile in preparation. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />* all plans on Test server subject to change without notice, of course!</blockquote>Will tokens also be given for city tradeskill writs since they are also city specific?</blockquote>all city and crafting writs give those tokens, regardless or where the festival is currently