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Dreyco
11-04-2009, 06:19 PM
<p>I have characters that I have loooong deleted still being listed, for whatever reason, under my admin settings.  You can still look them up, find them, and look at their stuff, alts, etc.  Right now, it's listing over 12 toons of mine... and I only have 7 at the moment. </p><p>Why aren't these characters getting dumped when I deleted them?</p>

3cho
11-05-2009, 08:43 PM
<p>It's a known <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=456622" target="_blank">issue</a> that "<em><strong>they</strong></em>" are working on.  I came here to ask the same question, but saw that it was listed in a stickied thread.</p>

Hilt
11-09-2009, 04:02 PM
<p><cite>Adun@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's a known <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=456622" target="_blank">issue</a> that "<em><strong>they</strong></em>" are working on.  I came here to ask the same question, but saw that it was listed in a stickied thread.</p></blockquote><p>"Soon (tm)"</p>

Gungo
11-09-2009, 07:50 PM
<p><cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have characters that I have loooong deleted still being listed, for whatever reason, under my admin settings.  You can still look them up, find them, and look at their stuff, alts, etc.  Right now, it's listing over 12 toons of mine... and I only have 7 at the moment. </p><p>Why aren't these characters getting dumped when I deleted them?</p></blockquote><p>Because even when you delete your character it is not deleted. SOE does not believe in removing dead toons off thier servers and instead think the exponential lag created by them is worth keeping them to congest the database.</p><p>The only time your character is permanantly deleted is during a server merge. But at anytime until then you can always petition to have your toon made accessible from its last save.  </p><p>SoE needs to permantly purge all old toons from its database. If they so desire they need to move older unactive toons 24 months+ and deleted toons to a seperate database. That they can then reload if needed. Right now thier database and lag caused by it are a mess and the 64bit upgrade is not going to fix that.</p>

Lethe5683
11-11-2009, 08:26 AM
<p><cite>Gungo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have characters that I have loooong deleted still being listed, for whatever reason, under my admin settings.  You can still look them up, find them, and look at their stuff, alts, etc.  Right now, it's listing over 12 toons of mine... and I only have 7 at the moment. </p><p>Why aren't these characters getting dumped when I deleted them?</p></blockquote><p>Because even when you delete your character it is not deleted. SOE does not believe in removing dead toons off thier servers and instead think the exponential lag created by them is worth keeping them to congest the database.</p><p>The only time your character is permanantly deleted is during a server merge. But at anytime until then you can always petition to have your toon made accessible from its last save.  </p><p>SoE needs to permantly purge all old toons from its database. If they so desire they need to move older unactive toons 24 months+ and deleted toons to a seperate database. That they can then reload if needed. Right now thier database and lag caused by it are a mess and the 64bit upgrade is not going to fix that.</p></blockquote><p>I agree that old characters should be purged but not because of lag.  Lots of old saved characters does NOT create any lag whatsoever, they just waste valuable namespace.</p>

Micheal
11-11-2009, 12:19 PM
<p>personally, i'm glad they keep them. took a break of nearly two years to try vanguard, hang out with friends in WoW etc etc, and was able to come back to my old toons and pick up where i left off, although, totally lost -grin-</p><p>this was pertaining to 'inactive toons' not 'deleted toons' hope they get THAT fixed soon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Dreyco
11-11-2009, 02:05 PM
<p>I don't want them to be permanantly deleted from their databases, just not show up :p.</p>

Gungo
11-11-2009, 02:28 PM
<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gungo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have characters that I have loooong deleted still being listed, for whatever reason, under my admin settings.  You can still look them up, find them, and look at their stuff, alts, etc.  Right now, it's listing over 12 toons of mine... and I only have 7 at the moment. </p><p>Why aren't these characters getting dumped when I deleted them?</p></blockquote><p>Because even when you delete your character it is not deleted. SOE does not believe in removing dead toons off thier servers and instead think the exponential lag created by them is worth keeping them to congest the database.</p><p>The only time your character is permanantly deleted is during a server merge. But at anytime until then you can always petition to have your toon made accessible from its last save.  </p><p>SoE needs to permantly purge all old toons from its database. If they so desire they need to move older unactive toons 24 months+ and deleted toons to a seperate database. That they can then reload if needed. Right now thier database and lag caused by it are a mess and the 64bit upgrade is not going to fix that.</p></blockquote><p>I agree that old characters should be purged but not because of lag.  Lots of old saved characters does NOT create any lag whatsoever, they just waste valuable namespace.</p></blockquote><p>Um wrong at least according to rothgar whose words i hold with a heck of alot more credence then yours during the nagafen server merge he specifically said that thier plan was to purge old character data which would lower the server lag.</p><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Our plan was to combat the lag issue by aggressively purging data on both servers prior to the merge.</p></blockquote>

Dreyco
11-11-2009, 02:57 PM
<p>More data that the thing has to search through?  Longer times in searching a database.  Just the way it goes.</p>