Hedge Maze loot after patch

[ghorz]

<p><span style="font-size: x-small;"><p>Just a little feedback on the changed chance of armor drops in the Hedge Maze.</p><p>It took me five runs to acquire a whole set of armor.</p><p>Here's a list of the drops and the collection items:</p><p>1x Axe of Incapitation2x Raven Plushie3x Loincloth of Imperceptible Beauty</p><p><strong>Nightmarish Ceremonial Plate - Armor</strong>1x Cuirass1x Greaves1x Sabatons2x Gauntlets2x Helm2x Gussets5x Spaulders</p><p><strong>a lost - Collection</strong>1x finger2x action figute2x playing card3x mackerel3x pair of dice4x eye5x hairbrush</p><p>So, five runs is acceptable in my opinion to finish the collection and get a whole armor set plus weapon. At least compared to pre-patch.</p></span></p>

[Trifixion]

<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">I had to run the zone 26 times before i got my Nightmarish Ceremonial Greaves I almost petitioned it lol.</span></p><p>wish they would have made it smart loot</p>

[Ahlana]

<p>Heh my first 3 runs I got nothing but Gussets... and Loincloth of OMGMYPANTIESARESHOWING</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>More interesting fact about Hedge Maze loot . . . run it at 80 and you get only the armor (which cant be transmuted, no-trade etc) and shinies and a few little body drops.</p><p>Now run it on lower toons, you get spell and armor drops off the trash mobs. Got an exquisite in there the other day with a master spell.</p><p>/boggle</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>may just be me, but after 5 runs and 20 drops i still have yet to have the shoulders drop. so [Removed for Content] is up. this is getting to be a big pain in the $#%^. so [Removed for Content] is up, did you break the drop rates again or are they still not equal.</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>i have gotten:</p><ul><li>3 Nightmarish Ceremonial Plate pants</li><li>3 gloves </li><li>3 of the see through pants</li><li>1 chest </li><li>2 hats</li><li>4 gauntlets</li><li>2 boots</li><li>2 raven pushies</li></ul><p>so why cant i get the shoulders to drop</p>

[Trulaf]

<p>It took me (at a conservative estimate) about 30 times to get a full suit of the armor.</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>i guess i am just unlucky ran it another 3 times today still now shoulders</p>

[Sangraiel]

<p><cite>Mosha DKhan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>{0}</blockquote><p>Are you aware that you must qualify to be able to opne the last chest in the hedge?  Just asking=)</p><p>I have run the HH about 20 times and no Chest Drop lol</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>I think he means the shoulders for the Nightmarish Armor.  Not the special red spikey ones.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>i do mean the nightmarish shoulders, i have the red spiky ones and dont care for them. now done the zone 11 times total and have yet to have them drop. that is worse than before the update for me. so [Removed for Content] is going on. before the patch i got them in 8 runs, but not i have done it 11 times and still no drop for my alts the is going on? finaly had the chest start droping. i only had 2 before the update and now have 5 so 2 more to go before all characters i have have it. but 1 pair of shoulders out of 19 runs there has to be something wrong. and no shoulders after 11 runs after patch there has to be something wrong. is there something i am doing wrong? any info would be great</p><p>what are the drop rate on them? .1%?</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>Ran it on my SK over the weekend while chatting with guildies . . which made it more amusing  . . .</p><p>I ran it 10 times back to back . . .</p><p>I ended up with:</p><ul><li>32 chest pieces</li><li>10 axes of decapitation</li><li>0 helmets or forearms</li><li>1-2 of the other pieces </li></ul><p>What was funny was a couple of guildmates were getting everything but chest pieces . . . had to tell them because I already had them all.</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p><cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ran it on my SK over the weekend while chatting with guildies . . which made it more amusing  . . .</p><p>I ran it 10 times back to back . . .</p><p>I ended up with:</p><ul><li>32 chest pieces</li><li>10 axes of decapitation</li><li>0 helmets or forearms</li><li>1-2 of the other pieces </li></ul><p>What was funny was a couple of guildmates were getting everything but chest pieces . . . had to tell them because I already had them all.</p></blockquote><p>lol nice that is worse than me. so sony does need to fix their mess and lie. the odds of your drops (if all drops are equal) are near impossible. so i am not the only one having this problem. that is good to know</p>

[Gninja]

<p>As of last patch the armor all has an equal chance of dropping and the special items for each named have a slightly higher chance of dropping. i.e. the raven plushie, loincloth, and axe.</p><p>Seems you guys are just falling victim to the RNG <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and no I can't make them smart loot...</p>

[Katanalla]

<p>Well could we atleast get a zone out thingy in center of maze. So I don't have to call out or go back through maze tbh!</p>

[Mynervia]

<p><cite>Katanallama@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well could we atleast get a zone out thingy in center of maze. So I don't have to call out or go back through maze tbh!</p></blockquote><p>I'm figuring that was very intentional, to increase the chance people would realize there's stuff to do after the boss.  If there was a zoneout in that inner area, most would just clickout then and be done with it, rather than having to try to run out and having a decent chance of stumbling on things like the gnome and the gleaming chest.</p>

[SnoesieQ]

<p><cite>Mynervia@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Katanallama@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well could we atleast get a zone out thingy in center of maze. So I don't have to call out or go back through maze tbh!</p></blockquote><p>I'm figuring that was very intentional, to increase the chance people would realize there's stuff to do after the boss.  If there was a zoneout in that inner area, most would just clickout then and be done with it, rather than having to try to run out and having a decent chance of stumbling on things like the gnome and the gleaming chest.</p></blockquote><p>Agree, I think a lot of people might even just forget to go back and then complain they have to do the maze over again <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Anyway, /camp charactername will dump you outside of the gates, ready for another run. (the normal quest completes when Altius is killed)</p>

[Bratface]

<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>and no I can't make them smart loot...</p></blockquote><p>Could you at least make them mutable?</p><p>I am having to destroy this stuff and it seems a waste when it's only level 1 gear and could be muted like the loincloth is.</p>

[SilverMoth]

<p>i got the gloves and only halfway through before i crashed XD</p><p>i want a raven plushie for my house!!</p>

[Katanalla]

<p><cite>SnoesieQ wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Anyway, /camp charactername will dump you outside of the gates</p></blockquote><p>Oh snap thanks! I did not know.</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>As of last patch the armor all has an equal chance of dropping and the special items for each named have a slightly higher chance of dropping. i.e. the raven plushie, loincloth, and axe.</p><p>Seems you guys are just falling victim to the RNG <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> and no I can't make them smart loot...</p></blockquote><p>well now ran this zone a total of 24 times in my free time and well still dont have shoulders and well i am giving up because it is not worths another million runs to obtain the shoulders.</p><p>Side Note:</p><p>1)  i have disliked this years event since it has started. and i guess it is the little things that bother me. with old man dave if you do trick you get the same thing that has happened the last 3 years, and if you do treat he gets made you are on his portch or something like that and then attacks you. well he should attack you for either becuase you have to be near the door to do either. the fact that the headless knight guy only a axe that is not useable by everyone makes me not loot it ever.</p><p>2) also the fact i can do this on my lower lvl characters is wrong. on my lower assassin, conjy and brothers bruiser i cant do the zone with them. i am getting crit hit for 6.6k at lvl 71/72. well with no way to increase crit mit there is no way to prevent this and on my conjy that is about 1/3 of his hp.</p><p>3) the headless horseman in nek you cant ever get a kill on. the fact you made him take the item did nothing by the time he repops you can run the zone and get another. so guilds have him on lock down and as a player i cant ever get in on this.</p><p>just my feedback on this years event</p>

[Mohyra]

<p>Mosha, I've ran this instance with a troubadour 25 and an assassin 54, both very bad geared and had no issue at all, it was actually easier than the LP haunted house.</p><p>Just to add my 2 cents, I actually was lucky enough to get 2 shoulders pieces before the patch and I can't have them now, but I get ton of bracers <img src="/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I'm just a bit disappointed with the tapestry and the cloack, I don't like their design <img src="/smilies/1069449046bcd664c21db15b1dfedaee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Bratface]

<p><cite>Mosha DKhan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span>2) also the fact i can do this on my lower lvl characters is wrong. on my lower assassin, conjy and brothers bruiser i cant do the zone with them. i am getting crit hit for 6.6k at lvl 71/72. well with no way to increase crit mit there is no way to prevent this and on my conjy that is about 1/3 of his hp.</span></blockquote><p>This.</p><p>They do not scale properly at all, lower level toon have incredibly high resist rates that barely allow one in five attacks to land, and they also do not receive proportional amounts of damage compared to higher level characters. On a couple toons it took me days to get them through, one of which I finally had to run very, very grey to get her through it (Necro).</p><p>My toons are not [Removed for Content], they are happily twinked and mastered, yet at lower levels they had a much harder time than my higher levels due to the lack of even scaling.</p><p>ETA: I should add that I play healers and casters (two baby melee that had no problems) my husband had no trouble running his toons (melee mostly) through the maze at any level, but he had to also run a couple of my healers through because I was so burned out on failing it and I wanted them all finished.</p><p>So yeah, melee probably isn't an issue at lower levels, but with healers and casters its a problem.</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>this is my last post because there is no reason for me to say much more, but finaly for my final post i will say this. i hope next year is better because this year was sad.</p><p>but what i wanted to really post was that i finaly got that 2nd pair of shoulders after 30+ runs which is really sad. still cant solo it one my conjy but finaly got it with my assassin. with this event only lasting a few more days there is no reason for me to request a change to it but only can hope that next years you guys dont make another event like this</p>

[Karrane1]

I also found this very hard to do on my Templar and my Conj. But..... I self-mentor them down to around lvl 50 ( they are both lvl 80 and templar is raid geared) and just have alot of fun in there. I leave the zone green, meaning i dont unmentor once inside, so I get all the chests that might drop. Granted, they will be lvl 50 stuff but thats fine with me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[SilverMoth]

<p><span style="color: #cc99ff;">wait? you had troubles with lower level charas in the hedge maze?</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff;">my lvl 15 necro soloed it with ease, and im by no means having the best stuff. i didnt even have my pet out with me.</span></p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p><cite>SilverMoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cc99ff;">wait? you had troubles with lower level charas in the hedge maze?</span></p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff;">my lvl 15 necro soloed it with ease, and im by no means having the best stuff. i didnt even have my pet out with me.</span></p></blockquote><p>when i get crit hit for 50% of my life at lvl 71 yes i do.</p>

[SilverMoth]

<p><span style="color: #cc99ff;">oh pardon, i must have missed that part =)</span></p>