is control hate bugged?

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>is control hate bugged or maybe i just dont know how it works? i am in my alternate: shiftness to decrease hate during raid cause i dont tank and it seems i be at 85% on the hate meter and i will use it and spike up to way over 100 and keep agro for a good while. why is this i should be decreasing hate because i am not in manhandle. can someone exlain why i am haveing a problem, did not have this until GU 53. also when i am in manhandle it does what it should do just alittle side note</p><p>more information and an explaination on how it works would be great. or maybe it just needs to be fixed not sure</p>

[Aule]

I've never seen control hate do anything other than push you up one hate position. The actual effect doesn't seem to match up with the description that states that if you're in offensive it'll lower a threat position instead.

[Taldier]

<p>Control hate is based on whether you are in taunt/detaunt stance not def/off despite the horribly misleading description.  As far as I can tell the current issue is the shiftiness stance not being reapplied properly after death like other buffs are.  No idea whether its failing to proc at all after death or simply not being recognized by control hate.  Just recast it every time you revive until soe fixes something related to brawlers....</p>

[Quicksilver74]

<p>Shiftiness and Manhandle cannot BOTH be active.  if one is up both will grey out.   If you have Manhandle up then Shiftiness is down by default.   If Shiftiness is NOT up, you gain 1 hate position.   if Shiftiniess IS up you loose one. </p>

[Taldier]

<p>The relevant point is that, as far as the last time I tried it, shiftiness must be turned off and recast every time you revive for control hate to decrease hate.  Very minor issue, but potentially a bad problem until you figure out why youre suddenly the mt lol.</p>

[Mosha D'Khan]

<p>k recasting it worked but that is bugged then. i should not have to recast ti every time i die. in a raid where i just get eaten by AEs when i am not paying attention it is a pain. or when i pull agro in groups and healer dont do their job it is really a pain.</p>

[Aule]

I updated the brawler issue thread with alternate: shiftiness and control hate issues noted here.