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[Rabbitoh]

<p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p>Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy.</p>

[Guld_Ulrish]

<p>Yepp I agree, the low lvl pvp is still fun but stupid that you gain Xp from pvp.</p>

[Paikis]

<p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous </span>and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy. </p></blockquote><p>L2Maths.</p><p>Other than that, I agree.</p>

[Rabbitoh]

<p><cite>Paikis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous </span>and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy. </p></blockquote><p>L2Maths.</p><p>Other than that, I agree.</p></blockquote><p>Actuall 6 writs per hour = 30 tokens per hour. 30x24= 720. 720 x2= 1440 tokens in 2 days.</p><p>The zerging never stops in Nagafens.</p>

[Silverzx]

<p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Paikis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous </span>and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy. </p></blockquote><p>L2Maths.</p><p>Other than that, I agree.</p></blockquote><p>Actuall 6 writs per hour = 30 tokens per hour. 30x24= 720. 720 x2= 1440 tokens in 2 days.</p><p>The zerging never stops in Nagafens.</p></blockquote><p>l2maths person is right.  its not 6 per hour since its on a 12 minute refresh.  that would be 5 per hour even if your sitting at temple right next to the npc guy and get the next writ right when its done.  and nobody, i mean nobody pvps 48 hours over a 2 day period no matter how hardcore they are.  That being said i consider myself someone who plays alot and been pvping non stop since the update and i've gotten my set in about 10 days.</p>

[Paikis]

<p><cite>Silverzx wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Paikis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous </span>and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy. </p></blockquote><p>L2Maths.</p><p>Other than that, I agree.</p></blockquote><p>Actuall 6 writs per hour = 30 tokens per hour. 30x24= 720. 720 x2= 1440 tokens in 2 days.</p><p>The zerging never stops in Nagafens.</p></blockquote><p>l2maths person is right.  its not 6 per hour since its on a 12 minute refresh.  that would be 5 per hour even if your sitting at temple right next to the npc guy and get the next writ right when its done.  and nobody, i mean nobody pvps 48 hours over a 2 day period no matter how hardcore they are.  That being said i consider myself someone who plays alot and been pvping non stop since the update and i've gotten my set in about 10 days.</p></blockquote><p>Actually his maths is correct. 10 minute cool down, not 12. </p><p>Are you suggesting that it is normal for people to play for 48 hours straight Molok? I know its a fantasy world, but that is just a little bit far fetched. Personally I got bored with the whole thing after only 2 hours, and its hard for me to do it again for more than one or two writs. I'm sure that Im not the only one. I personally believe its more likely to be a week or two for most people.</p><p>You can easily get 7set TSO in 2 weeks if you join the right guild. Not only that, but you can get some VERY powerful jewelery.</p>

[Rhodan]

<p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p>Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy.</p></blockquote><p>+1</p><p>Ya, PvP in Eq2 is...well its not PvP, just a mindless zerg to farm tokens. Wish I could just simply quit eq2 =(</p>

[Faenril]

What is going on in TG is not pvp it's just both factions farming each other.

[Fin]

<p><cite>Paikis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Are you suggesting that it is normal for people to play for 48 hours straight Molok?</p></blockquote><p> You never heard of those asian kids dieing after grinding for like 72 hours straight? Well, by the maths you could get a full left side in 2 days if you play 13 hours a day and could get a new writ every time it was up. I had quite a few of the old tokens lieing around so I got 2 pieces of jewerly the day the update went live and had enough left over for another.</p><p> Im of the opinion that it doesnt matter. The gear is easier to get but I had better pieces for every slot by april.</p>

[Kkolbe]

<p>Can i have your stuff?</p>

[Sprin]

<p>its really quite simple, dont go to tg... i dont,... very often</p><p>from all my toons left over tokens from the last 2 years i got 5 pieces of tso pvp armor, and 5 pieces from rok pvp vender, in the first hour of the gu..... i spent the first day or so in tg cuz it was kinda fun, now its not, so i dont go there, i go to other zones and pvp there... yes its pretty bare as far as pvp goes in the other zones, but as more and morem people stop the zerging, they will spread out to other zones...</p><p>its very rare to see more then kp2 open now... the first few days and first week or so, kp5 was not a rare thing to see...  its already dying down, it will continue to do so and fun will be had again for you.... for now, all i can say is go to other zones and avoid the tg zerg fests...</p>

[MokiCh]

<p>Like I said in another thread, if every person that complained about how the TG zerg is ruining PvP would simply refuse to go there and hang out in the other zones, we wouldn't be having this discussion.</p><p>Personally, I find the TG fights much more fun than the LS or Docks zergs, mainly because there is a certain element of strategy involved in holding the writ giver house. Yesterday we had about 20-30 Freeps holding the house for over 2 hours against at least as many Qs, and I spent most of that time fighting without a writ, because if we had all hung out on top of the writ giver waiting for a new one, we'd have lost the house.</p><p>So anyway, if you don't like the big battles in TG, or your computer can't handle them, go somewhere else. If everyone that didn't like them did that, there'd be plenty of PvP in other zones too.</p>

[Fin]

<p> I was out solo in 2 and 3 today and got 2 writs done solo. 1v1s and 2 v 1s. I found it quite enjoyable.</p>

[Azol]

While the large-scale PVP events are fun, the server cannot support it as of now.

[MokiCh]

<p>What large scale PvP events? Maybe it gets worse on US prime time, but I play on GMT + 1 and it's died down a great deal. Not quite as low as it was before the update, but you rarely see more than 20-30 people on each side, and you never see more than two instances of KP up.</p>

[Jacquotte]

<p><cite>Rabbitoh wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unfortunately i find the lvl 80 pvp just a mindless zerging, gankfest with no skill at all. Players grinding out tokens to get gear.</p><p>Pvp gear should be comparable to raid gear, but equally as hard to get.</p><p>Spending 2 days and getting full pvp gear is ridiculous and leaves players nothing to gain once they are geared out in pvp gear.</p><p>The no risk pvp encourages zerging and needs to be looked at.</p><p>I am all for pvp, but not in this form, the game has lost alot over the past few updates. There is no adrenaline rushes now, no fun in pvp, just ganking, zerging and token grinding.</p><p>Not resubbing to this crap, a player lost in eq2.</p><p>Molok lvl 80 ranger in the proud guild fortitude.</p><p>Stupified lvl illy.</p></blockquote><p>/agree</p><p>reinstitute fameloss on death and lvl locking ftw</p><p>400 tokens for a piece of armor was a fine price</p><p>this is my opinion, yours may vary</p>