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Brigh

10-09-2009, 07:15 PM

I recently installed on this OS and find that in EQ II I am unable to run in windowed mode or alt tab to view other things.If I try my mouse is held hostage in the upper left area of the screen. I can't even alt tab to other programs in the background as the EQ II window is forced to be the top window. I have a similar problem with Eve Online but with Eve I can at least alt tab and view other things/second program instance and my mouse is free to interact with other programs.I have tried "Run as Administrator" right click shortcut launch button which doesn't work for either game.Since similar problems happen in two different games, I assume this is a Vista problem that everyone has? I have tried using other programs such as WinEQ2's windowed mode with no help.

TSR-DanielH

10-09-2009, 07:28 PM

Greetings,As a first step please make sure your version of Windows is completely up to date using Windows update. Then install the most up to date drivers for the mouse, assuming there is a new version available. If that doesn't work then I would advise a reinstall of DirectX 9.0c. You can download that through the following link:<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...;displaylang=en</a>

Brigh

10-09-2009, 07:55 PM

There are no updates to the OS, no mouse updates, and I think I already did Dx9 as it tells meDirectX setup has determined that a newer or equivalent version of DirectX has been installed already. No installation is required. (Finish button only available)BTW I tried running in XP compat mode and it didn't work.

TSR-DanielH

10-09-2009, 08:26 PM

Greetings,Do you use some sort of Infrared device such as a remote control? There is an issue with Vista that will sometimes cause a similar issue if you are using an IR device. I thought it was fixed with last service pack but that's what it sounds like in this case. Let me know if you're using any such device.

Brigh

10-10-2009, 05:34 AM

no.My mouse is a Logitech optical mouse. I don't see how an IR device can cause windowed mode problems.

Brigh

10-13-2009, 11:30 PM

anyone?

TSR-DanielH

10-14-2009, 03:49 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>no.My mouse is a Logitech optical mouse. I don't see how an IR device can cause windowed mode problems.</blockquote>It's not uncommon for an IR device to interfere with other peripherals. We usually see that problem with EQ1, though.At this point it may be necessary for you to post your DXdiag information. That will allow us to take investigate further.

Brigh

10-15-2009, 02:40 AM

------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 10/14/2009, 22:33:54 Machine name: HOME-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830) Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD System Model: MS-7599 BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 550 Processor (2 CPUs), ~3.1GHz Memory: 8190MB RAM Page File: 3097MB used, 9304MB available Windows Dir: C:Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode------------DxDiag Notes------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found.--------------------DirectX Debug Levels--------------------Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)---------------Display Devices--------------- Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9501) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_1002&DEV_9501&SUBSYS_E620174B&REV_00 Display Memory: 3316 MB Dedicated Memory: 505 MB Shared Memory: 2811 MB Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (85Hz) Monitor: SONY GDM-FW900 Driver Name: atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atiumd va,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll Driver Version: 8.14.0010.0678 (English) DDI Version: 10.1Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 7/2/2009 09:54:53, 4059648 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date Stamp: n/aDevice Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D641-11CF-5D76-2AC6A1C2C535} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x9501 SubSys ID: 0xE620174B Revision ID: 0x0000 Revision ID: 0x0000 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: 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VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled-------------Sound Devices------------- Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: HDAUDIOFUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_14627599&REV_1002 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5888 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: n/a Date and Size: 7/6/2009 17:19:02, 1824672 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0xF1F Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, NoSensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) Default Sound Playback: No Default Voice Playback: No Hardware ID: HDAUDIOFUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_14627599&REV_1002 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5888 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: n/a Date and Size: 7/6/2009 17:19:02, 1824672 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0xF1F Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, NoSensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No---------------------Sound Capture Devices--------------------- Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio) Default Sound Capture: Yes Default Voice Capture: Yes Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5888 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Date and Size: 7/6/2009 17:19:02, 1824672 bytes Cap Flags: 0x1 Format Flags: 0xFFFFF-------------------DirectInput Devices------------------- Device Name: Mouse Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/aVendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Keyboard Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/aVendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/aPoll w/ Interrupt: No-----------USB Devices-----------+ USB Root Hub| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4398| Matching Device ID: usbroot_hub| Service: usbhub----------------Gameport Devices----------------------------PS/2 Devices------------+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303| Service: i8042prt| + Terminal Server Keyboard Driver| Matching Device ID: rootrdp_kbd| Upper Filters: kbdclass| Service: TermDD| + HID-compliant mouse| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC01D| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse| Service: mouhid| + Terminal Server Mouse Driver| Matching Device ID: rootrdp_mou| Upper Filters: mouclass| Service: TermDD

Brigh

10-15-2009, 02:41 AM

------------------------Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives------------------------ Drive: C: Free Space: 40.7 GBTotal Space: 75.7 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: D: Free Space: 12.7 GBTotal Space: 17.1 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: E: Free Space: 86.3 GBTotal Space: 110.8 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: F: Free Space: 59.8 GBTotal Space: 120.4 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: G: Free Space: 90.3 GBTotal Space: 100.8 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: H: Free Space: 98.9 GBTotal Space: 100.6 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: I: Free Space: 64.4 GBTotal Space: 85.0 GBFile System: NTFS Model: WDC WD6400AACS-00G8B1 ATA Device Drive: M: Free Space: 6.2 GBTotal Space: 40.2 GBFile System: NTFS Model: ST3200822AS ATA Device Drive: N: Free Space: 5.9 GBTotal Space: 9.2 GBFile System: NTFS Model: 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Brigh

10-19-2009, 09:24 AM

bump...and I found if I alt tab to the desktop selection, my mouse is free to move.I would like to be able to use windowed mode though for less alt tab hassle.

TSR-DanielH

10-20-2009, 04:16 PM

Sorry for the lack of response. I was only in the office on Wednesday last week because of some medical issues.Let's try some different driver configurations for the mouse. First let's try with the latest version available through Logitech. You should be able to find and download those drivers through the following website:<a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/support_downloads/downloads/mice/&cl=us,en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/s...e/&cl=us,en</a>If that doesn't work then I'd like to uninstall all drivers and use the default Windows drivers to see if that corrects the issue. Let us know if that corrects the problem.

Brigh

10-20-2009, 04:57 PM

As stated before, Logitech <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/832&hub=1&cl=us,en?osid=13" target="_blank">drivers</a> are already on the system.Download InstructionThis device uses the native drivers when used with Microsoft Vista™. If you do not have Vista, please select another operating system from the dropdown list above.This product originally shipped with either iTouch or MouseWare, which are not compatible with Vista. We strongly recommend to uninstall iTouch and/or MouseWare prior to migrating to Windows Vista. After iTouch and MouseWare are uninstalled, the basic functionality of your devices will be provided by the Windows native driver.

TSR-DanielH

10-20-2009, 05:05 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>As stated before, Logitech drivers are already on the system (stated by Logitech on their website which I can't bring up right now to link it as I am getting a blank page for them).</blockquote>It might be worth trying the game using the standard Windows drivers instead. The current configuration isn't working so I would advise trying the opposite.We see this error regularly with Everquest, but it's extremely rare in Everquest 2. In Everquest it is usually fixed with a Direct X reinstall, which your computer was rejecting earlier. Let's try using a different version of that install file to see if we can force it. The following file does not use a web installer so it might work better:<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9226a611-62fe-4f61-aba1-914185249413&displaylang=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...;displaylang=en</a>

Brigh

10-20-2009, 05:12 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>As stated before, Logitech <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/832&hub=1&cl=us,en?osid=13" target="_blank">drivers</a> are already on the system.Download InstructionThis device uses the native drivers when used with Microsoft Vista™. If you do not have Vista, please select another operating system from the dropdown list above.This product originally shipped with either iTouch or MouseWare, which are not compatible with Vista. We strongly recommend to uninstall iTouch and/or MouseWare prior to migrating to Windows Vista. After iTouch and MouseWare are uninstalled, the basic functionality of your devices will be provided by the Windows native driver.</blockquote> grr was editing and clicked quote and then you replied...I got the website to load.

Brigh

10-20-2009, 05:57 PM

I dl it, and tried to install but all I got was: Next> The components installed are ready for use. Finish There was no installation after clicking Next. It went immediately to the next window.(edit...logged into LOTRO and it works fine there, so it must be an incompatibility with EQ II and Eve Online's programming vs Vista [64 bit]...what else?)

TSR-DanielH

10-20-2009, 06:50 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>I dl it, and tried to install but all I got was: Next> The components installed are ready for use. Finish There was no installation after clicking Next. It went immediately to the next window.</blockquote>Is this referring to the mouse drivers, DirectX, or both?

Brigh

10-21-2009, 12:20 PM

<cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>I dl it, and tried to install but all I got was: Next> The components installed are ready for use. Finish There was no installation after clicking Next. It went immediately to the next window.</blockquote>Is this referring to the mouse drivers, DirectX, or both?</blockquote>DirectX

Brigh

10-24-2009, 07:07 AM

in the eq2_recent.ini file I saw this:cl_screenwidth_windowed 1264cl_screenheight_windowed 768Why such an odd size? Is this giving me the enlarged/magnified window?I tried setting it to my desktop size but it just gets changed back.

Brigh

10-27-2009, 04:21 PM

...

Brigh

10-30-2009, 09:29 PM

and another bump...Is there NO ONE else out there using Vista that experiences this?(goes back to Alt-Entering, then Windows key + M'ing, then clicking on the other windows from the taskbar in order to use them...)

Jrel

10-31-2009, 08:41 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>I recently installed on this OS and find that in EQ II I am unable to run in windowed mode or alt tab to view other things.If I try my mouse is held hostage in the upper left area of the screen. I can't even alt tab to other programs in the background as the EQ II window is forced to be the top window. I have a similar problem with Eve Online but with Eve I can at least alt tab and view other things/second program instance and my mouse is free to interact with other programs.I have tried "Run as Administrator" right click shortcut launch button which doesn't work for either game.Since similar problems happen in two different games, I assume this is a Vista problem that everyone has? I have tried using other programs such as WinEQ2's windowed mode with no help.</blockquote>Hmm, you should be able to right-click EverQuest 2 (EQ2.exe) and then "Run As Administrator".How is your mouse and keyboard hooked up to your PC exactly? Are they USB? have you tried putting them in different ports?

Brigh

11-01-2009, 12:48 PM

Running as admin is a must as the patcher will not patch correctly without it. There is a pop up box telling you so (why do some programs trigger UAC and others don't...).It only affects EQ II and Eve Online. LOTRO works fine so it has to be something with the programming of the games.

Jrel

11-01-2009, 06:27 PM

And you've already tried uninstalling EQ2 completely, rebooting and reinstalling as admin?

Brigh

11-03-2009, 07:04 PM

I am not uninstalling and reinstalling the game all over again when it is a clean install of both OS and game within the last 3 months.I don't remember how I installed it. I have yet to hear from anyone that says they run it on Vista so it would be pointless to do such a drastic thing.

Jrel

11-03-2009, 10:31 PM

I am running it on 64-bit Vista Ultimate in windowed mode. That's why I asked. It is installed in its own directory under Program Files and not in my Program Files (x86) directory.

BDoodle

11-04-2009, 03:55 AM

A quick search through a number of other forums shows other people experiencing similar issues with mouse pointers in Vista.Often the issue shows up as the pointer being captured in the top left corner of the screen and taking up the bulk of the processor time by continuously 'clicking'.One of the comon threads in these issues is that the reselution is set very high, and some people have fixed their problem by lowering the screen reselution. Certainly this is something simple that you can try.I tend to think that there may be an issue with Vista switching between different graphics modes, but without further investigation I cannot be sure.Failing these measures, are you able to [Ctrl+Alt+Del] to the Task Manager to see if the program has stopped responding?

Kigneer

11-04-2009, 08:18 AM

<cite>Jrel wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am running it on 64-bit Vista Ultimate in windowed mode. That's why I asked. It is installed in its own directory under Program Files and not in my Program Files (x86) directory.</blockquote>The Program Files directory is for 64-bit encoded programs, where legacy programs are in x86 program directory. EQ2 is a 32bit program and belongs in the x86 directory.Have EQ2 installed on a separate partition, but also will lose the mouse pointer (just disappears) in windowed mode from time-to-time, though. Game works as usual, but the mouse disappears like behind the screen to the desktop.

Jrel

11-04-2009, 10:57 AM

<cite>Kigneer wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jrel wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am running it on 64-bit Vista Ultimate in windowed mode. That's why I asked. It is installed in its own directory under Program Files and not in my Program Files (x86) directory.</blockquote>The Program Files directory is for 64-bit encoded programs, where legacy programs are in x86 program directory. EQ2 is a 32bit program and belongs in the x86 directory.Have EQ2 installed on a separate partition, but also will lose the mouse pointer (just disappears) in windowed mode from time-to-time, though. Game works as usual, but the mouse disappears like behind the screen to the desktop.</blockquote>Sorry, I didn't clarify. I actually have two Program Files directories. One on my C drive and one on my D drive. My D/Program Files is where I can still use some of my old programs from Windows XP. Like you've done with EQ2, one can install programs wherever they want. Even if a program is installed into C/Program Files, it will run in 64-bit only if it is coded for 64-bit. C/Program Files is just a directory label; 32-bit programs can be installed into there and run, but it is not recommended.That is really weird with the mouse disappearing <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" />I found this in an unrelated game about a mouse disappearing in a Civilization (might help):1) Open: CONTROL PANEL 2) Select: Mouse Pointers 3) Disable ALL ancillary pointer behavior (e.g. shadows, trails, non-default pointer shapes, precision enhancement, Snap-To, Hide-pointer-while-typing... EVERYTHING! Just to be sure!) 4) Run Civ. 5) Enjoy!

Brigh

11-04-2009, 08:01 PM

<cite>BDoodle wrote:</cite><blockquote>A quick search through a number of other forums shows other people experiencing similar issues with mouse pointers in Vista.Often the issue shows up as the pointer being captured in the top left corner of the screen and taking up the bulk of the processor time by continuously 'clicking'.One of the comon threads in these issues is that the reselution is set very high, and some people have fixed their problem by lowering the screen reselution. Certainly this is something simple that you can try.I tend to think that there may be an issue with Vista switching between different graphics modes, but without further investigation I cannot be sure.Failing these measures, are you able to [Ctrl+Alt+Del] to the Task Manager to see if the program has stopped responding?</blockquote>My desktop res is set to 1920x1200, a standard widescreen 16:10 aspect ratio. Like I replied to the tech earlier in the thread, I have this happen with EQ II and Eve Online, but not with Lord of the Rings Online (which has DirectX 10 support for a few graphics goodies).EQ II does not stop responding, like I said earlier, in order for me to use my browser in the background or other program, I have to Alt+Enter, then Windows key + M to minimuze all windows, then click on the program in the taskbar in order to freely use it.

Vodr

11-04-2009, 09:20 PM

Curiousity question, under performance options what is the full screen resolution set to? And have you tried going from fullscreen to window mode with the checkbox in the same area?

BDoodle

11-05-2009, 04:41 AM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>My desktop res is set to 1920x1200, a standard widescreen 16:10 aspect ratio. Like I replied to the tech earlier in the thread, I have this happen with EQ II and Eve Online, but not with Lord of the Rings Online (which has DirectX 10 support for a few graphics goodies).</blockquote>Have you tried reducing the desktop res, or changing it to match your game settings?I am aware that most of the issues that I reviewed elsewhere are not exactly the same as what you have been experiencing. But I believe, from a diagnostics point of view, that if the issue is similar and the test is relativly easy and inexpensive, then it is worth eliminating, with the added possibility that it may solve the issue. (Getting you to change your res is much much simpler that having the Devs sift through thousands of lines of code making changes and experimenting with different versions of code to work out exactly what is going on.) You dont have to keep the changes, just see if they allow you to operate seamlessly in windowed mode. If the changes do work, then it will give the tech/dev team a better idea of what must be done to correct the issue, and they will be able to impliment a fix sooner.Sorry if I sound a bit gruff. I know that when things don't work the way I would expect them to do, I can get a bit stressed out too. I am not a SOE tech, though I have worked as a diagnostician and consultant on a number of different types of equipment and systems. So I am only trying to help with some troubleshooting methods that have worked well for me in the past.Just to clarify what you were saying about moving to the desktop and then minimizing all windows, then using programs from the taskbar - once you restore EQ2 are you able to use use the mouse, or is it captured again?

Brigh

11-05-2009, 10:23 PM

<cite>Vodroc wrote:</cite><blockquote>Curiousity question, under performance options what is the full screen resolution set to? And have you tried going from fullscreen to window mode with the checkbox in the same area?</blockquote>res is set to desktop res. Checking the box only does the same thing as Alt+Enter.

Brigh

11-05-2009, 10:27 PM

<cite>BDoodle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>My desktop res is set to 1920x1200, a standard widescreen 16:10 aspect ratio. Like I replied to the tech earlier in the thread, I have this happen with EQ II and Eve Online, but not with Lord of the Rings Online (which has DirectX 10 support for a few graphics goodies).</blockquote>Have you tried reducing the desktop res, (dropped to 1680 x 1050, no changes) or changing it to match your game settings? see my reply I just made to the person before you.I am aware that most of the issues that I reviewed elsewhere are not exactly the same as what you have been experiencing. But I believe, from a diagnostics point of view, that if the issue is similar and the test is relativly easy and inexpensive, then it is worth eliminating, with the added possibility that it may solve the issue. (Getting you to change your res is much much simpler that having the Devs sift through thousands of lines of code making changes and experimenting with different versions of code to work out exactly what is going on.) You dont have to keep the changes, just see if they allow you to operate seamlessly in windowed mode. If the changes do work, then it will give the tech/dev team a better idea of what must be done to correct the issue, and they will be able to impliment a fix sooner.Sorry if I sound a bit gruff. I know that when things don't work the way I would expect them to do, I can get a bit stressed out too. I am not a SOE tech, though I have worked as a diagnostician and consultant on a number of different types of equipment and systems. So I am only trying to help with some troubleshooting methods that have worked well for me in the past.Just to clarify what you were saying about moving to the desktop and then minimizing all windows, then using programs from the taskbar - once you restore EQ2 are you able to use use the mouse, or is it captured again? Nothing changes</blockquote>.

BDoodle

11-06-2009, 06:30 AM

3 questions about windowed mode: - When the mouse pointer gets stuck in the top left of the screen, is the pointer within the game window, or is it on the window title bar? - Has the pointer changed to the normal (white) windows pointer, or is it still the EQ2 pointer (brown)? - Can you operate the game using keyboard macros and arrow keys, while in windowed mode?Also, previously you told the tech that you were using a Logitech mouse. Can you tell me what model it is?

Brigh

11-06-2009, 09:19 AM

<cite>BDoodle wrote:</cite><blockquote>3 questions about windowed mode: - When the mouse pointer gets stuck in the top left of the screen, is the pointer within the game window, or is it on the window title bar? It stays at the point of Alt+Enter, and if you even move it the slightest millimeter, it snaps to the upper left corner. You drag it any which way and it just wants to stay in that corner like a rubber band is on it. While I was starting it up again to see how it behaved, I accidently dragged the window, pulling it down towards the right. For some reason it is now opening in a window that is smaller than the desktop size. I am unable to move it now since the pointer is trapped on what ever program window I alt tab to. It makes no difference: Browser, WMP, etc. All have no control over the mouse. - Has the pointer changed to the normal (white) windows pointer, or is it still the EQ2 pointer (brown)? It stays the game pointer until it snaps out of the window. - Can you operate the game using keyboard macros and arrow keys, while in windowed mode?Also, previously you told the tech that you were using a Logitech mouse. Can you tell me what model it is?I actually <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/832&hub=1&cl=us,en?osid=13" target="_blank">linked it</a> in my reply to him.</blockquote>

TSR-DanielH

11-06-2009, 04:34 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>As stated before, Logitech <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/832&hub=1&cl=us,en?osid=13" target="_blank">drivers</a> are already on the system.Download InstructionThis device uses the native drivers when used with Microsoft Vista™. If you do not have Vista, please select another operating system from the dropdown list above.</blockquote>I know this is from earlier in the thread.Do you have any kind of mouseware/itouch software still installed on that computer? I switched to a razor mouse before Vista released so I was not aware of these logitech incompatibility issues. If you have any kind of logitech mouse applications installed then you'll probably want to remove them. Running a driver cleaner might be helpful as well.

Vodr

11-06-2009, 05:25 PM

your resolution is too high and I'm sure causing issues going into windowed mode, please try 1280x1024 just for a test. Leave your desktop res where it is, Go into full screen mode in the game and change your res to 1280x1024 and apply. I would then try exiting the game and re-entering it and then test windowed mode.Whenever I run a windowed mode I always make sure my game resolution would be same or smaller as the window I am trying to view the game from.Let me know if this helps.

Brigh

11-06-2009, 06:19 PM

<cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>As stated before, Logitech <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/428/832&hub=1&cl=us,en?osid=13" target="_blank">drivers</a> are already on the system.Download InstructionThis device uses the native drivers when used with Microsoft Vista™. If you do not have Vista, please select another operating system from the dropdown list above.</blockquote>I know this is from earlier in the thread.Do you have any kind of mouseware/itouch software still installed on that computer? I switched to a razor mouse before Vista released so I was not aware of these logitech incompatibility issues. If you have any kind of logitech mouse applications installed then you'll probably want to remove them. Running a driver cleaner might be helpful as well.</blockquote> I think I said earlier that I do not have any drivers installed since they said there were no drivers to install for Vista. I installed Vista clean just a few months ago.

Brigh

11-06-2009, 06:26 PM

<cite>Vodroc wrote:</cite><blockquote>your resolution is too high and I'm sure causing issues going into windowed mode, please try 1280x1024 just for a test. Leave your desktop res where it is, Go into full screen mode in the game and change your res to 1280x1024 and apply. I would then try exiting the game and re-entering it and then test windowed mode.Whenever I run a windowed mode I always make sure my game resolution would be same or smaller as the window I am trying to view the game from.Let me know if this helps.</blockquote>Are you aware that LCD native resolutions are normally "high"? Any lowering of the resolution is performed digitally and degrades the image, as opposed to using a CRT which does not. I have used 1680x1050 for years with no problem. It was only after installing Vista that this has happened. I figured things like this would have been ironed out by now for Vista as this has been the only persistant problem I have encountered with Vista.Like I said in the earlier quote, I have my desktop and game resolution set to the same dimensions. For some reason after performing the test I was asked to do by Bdoodle, it is now showing in a SMALLER window than my desktop size, instead of the exploded window it had been in before, despite the resolution being set back to what it was before I changed it.

Vodr

11-06-2009, 06:34 PM

then you simply drag the window to expand it, the issue is somewhere on your rig and not vista. My house ran 3 vista desktops in window mode without issue, and a xp one as well (family that plays together) and I am well aware that with a LCD you set your desktop size for a 1:1 ratio to get pixel perfect images. However I never told you to do anything with your desktop resolution if you read the post. When running in a windowed mode at a lower resolution you still achieve 1:1 ratio keeping the crisp picture.Excuse the hell out of me for trying to actually help, I have only been in IT for 13 years and don't know anything that I'm talking about.

Brigh

11-06-2009, 06:46 PM

<cite>Vodroc wrote:</cite><blockquote>then you simply drag the window to expand it, the issue is somewhere on your rig and not vista. My house ran 3 vista desktops in window mode without issue, and a xp one as well (family that plays together) and I am well aware that with a LCD you set your desktop size for a 1:1 ratio to get pixel perfect images. However I never told you to do anything with your desktop resolution if you read the post. When running in a windowed mode at a lower resolution you still achieve 1:1 ratio keeping the crisp picture.Excuse the hell out of me for trying to actually help, I have only been in IT for 13 years and don't know anything that I'm talking about.</blockquote>With such a short patience I don't know how you stay communicating with customers.If you have read any of the previous replies to other people, changing the resolution does NOTHING!

Vodr

11-06-2009, 06:51 PM

You had changed desktop resolution, and if your a customer then when do I get paid? Patience for customers yes, patience for people throwing a fit when you try to help them for free, that's a whole other story.And did you ever read the vista thread? or update your directx as indicated on it?

Brigh

11-06-2009, 06:57 PM

Once again I ask of TSR-DanielH:Earlier in the thread I asked of you about the ini file that controlled screen resolutions (possibly).This is what is currently in my eq2_recent.ini:cl_screenwidth_windowed 1024cl_screenheight_windowed 768cl_screenposx_windowed_restore_down 170cl_screenposy_windowed_restore_down 91cl_screenwidth 1920cl_screenheight 1200cl_screenrefresh 85These are the only resolution related entries I noticed in any of the files I could read / found.

Brigh

11-06-2009, 06:58 PM

<cite>Vodroc wrote:</cite><blockquote>You had changed desktop resolution, and if your a customer then when do I get paid? Patience for customers yes, (patience because getting paid) patience for people throwing a fit when you try to help them for free (who is throwing a fit?), that's a whole other story.And did you ever read the vista thread? or update your directx as indicated on it?</blockquote>Obviously you haven't read every reply in this thread, so we are done.

Brigh

11-06-2009, 10:08 PM

General thread update/clarification with Eve Online: If I alt tab I am fine, but if I Alt Enter then it acts the same way as EQ II. I can move the mouse across the title bar fine, but once it goes into the game window, it snaps to the upper left corner.EQ II does not allow me to alt tab keeping control of my mouse. Now that the EQ II window opens in a smaller window that it had before, without me changing anything other than the desktop/game resolution just like doodle suggested, I can't test to see if I can run the mouse pointer across the title bar like Eve Online.Lord of the Rings Online allows free movement any way I choose.Changing the res desktop or game does nothing as has already been stated. TSR Daniel has already talked about DirectX, which I have already replied about already installing Dx9 in the past, but attempted to anyway with his links if you were to read those replies.

BDoodle

11-07-2009, 02:35 AM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>General thread update/clarification with Eve Online: If I alt tab I am fine, but if I Alt Enter then it acts the same way as EQ II. I can move the mouse across the title bar fine, but once it goes into the game window, it snaps to the upper left corner.EQ II does not allow me to alt tab keeping control of my mouse. Now that the EQ II window opens in a smaller window that it had before, without me changing anything other than the desktop/game resolution just like doodle suggested, I can't test to see if I can run the mouse pointer across the title bar like Eve Online.Lord of the Rings Online allows free movement any way I choose.Changing the res desktop or game does nothing as has already been stated. TSR Daniel has already talked about DirectX, which I have already replied about already installing Dx9 in the past, but attempted to anyway with his links if you were to read those replies.</blockquote>Thanks for your patience Brigh, this post and your previous answers have helped clarify what you are experiencing. Many of the things we have asked you to test target one specific area on your system, but as you are probly aware, the issue seems to encompass a combination of factors.If the issue was just the mouse, I would expect to see it occuring outside of EQ2 and Eve. Rather, it is looking like a conflict between the windowed games and one or more of your systems devices, settings, software or even the windows kernel.The Logitech MX line of mouses were ever an excellent choice, (I have a MX-310 which I have been using without issue since my PentiumII days.) There have been reports of Windows suddenly ceasing to recognize the mouse and causing lose of pointer control, but I do not think this is all you are experiencing. These faults were fixed by replacing the mouse.One of the mouse settings, (motion acceleration,) has been known to cause conflicts in some games. If you have that setting in your mouse properties, (accessed through Control panel,) please make sure it is turned off for games. Most games tend to have their own motion control settings.I am still looking into other things that can cause the issues you have been experiencing, and will keep you up to date if I find anything else worth trying. Again, thanks for your patience, I hope we can solve this for you soon.BD

Brigh

11-07-2009, 03:50 AM

<cite>BDoodle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>General thread update/clarification with Eve Online: If I alt tab I am fine, but if I Alt Enter then it acts the same way as EQ II. I can move the mouse across the title bar fine, but once it goes into the game window, it snaps to the upper left corner.EQ II does not allow me to alt tab keeping control of my mouse. Now that the EQ II window opens in a smaller window that it had before, without me changing anything other than the desktop/game resolution just like doodle suggested, I can't test to see if I can run the mouse pointer across the title bar like Eve Online.Lord of the Rings Online allows free movement any way I choose.Changing the res desktop or game does nothing as has already been stated. TSR Daniel has already talked about DirectX, which I have already replied about already installing Dx9 in the past, but attempted to anyway with his links if you were to read those replies.</blockquote>Thanks for your patience Brigh, this post and your previous answers have helped clarify what you are experiencing. Many of the things we have asked you to test target one specific area on your system, but as you are probly aware, the issue seems to encompass a combination of factors.If the issue was just the mouse, I would expect to see it occuring outside of EQ2 and Eve. Rather, it is looking like a conflict between the windowed games and one or more of your systems devices, settings, software or even the windows kernel.The Logitech MX line of mouses were ever an excellent choice, (I have a MX-310 which I have been using without issue since my PentiumII days.) There have been reports of Windows suddenly ceasing to recognize the mouse and causing lose of pointer control, but I do not think this is all you are experiencing. These faults were fixed by replacing the mouse.One of the mouse settings, (motion acceleration,) has been known to cause conflicts in some games. If you have that setting in your mouse properties, (accessed through Control panel,) please make sure it is turned off for games. Most games tend to have their own motion control settings.I am still looking into other things that can cause the issues you have been experiencing, and will keep you up to date if I find anything else worth trying. Again, thanks for your patience, I hope we can solve this for you soon.BD</blockquote>There is no setting for motion acceleration on the mouse settings in Vista. There is only a slider for how fast it moves when you do move it. You can't disable this.

Brigh

11-17-2009, 08:37 PM

weekly bump

Brigh

11-23-2009, 04:26 PM

I have a feeling this is not going to be resolved without an OS change which will not happen without money.

Ldarax

11-24-2009, 09:47 AM

You stated in an earlyer post that you ran with 1680/1050 (who is a 16:9 ratio) res for years befor you installed Vista, and now you use 1920/1200 who is a 16:10 ratio.I would suggest you try your old res 1680/1050 or 1920/1080 and se if that helps, and i am sorry if you already tried this since i only have seen you post about none 16:9 resolutions.

Ldarax

11-24-2009, 09:52 AM

Dissregard my previous post I had the stuff mixed together sorry.But did you try you old ress 1680/1050?

Brigh

11-24-2009, 04:26 PM

<cite>Ldarax wrote:</cite><blockquote>Dissregard my previous post I had the stuff mixed together sorry.But did you try you old ress 1680/1050?</blockquote>It has already been suggested to change my resolution.Resolution has nothing to do with the problem. It is the mouse not being released properly not the resolution.

Brigh

12-03-2009, 05:51 PM

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Brigh

01-01-2010, 04:32 AM

well I can see I am probably never going to get this resolved...

Brigh

01-05-2010, 08:55 PM

bump for the new year