Is there anything not worth putting on a hotbar?

[Mystfit]

<p>I am working very hard on reading threads, looking at aa lines, suggestions, all that good stuff.</p><p>The one thing that hangs me up is it seems we have more tools then I know what to do with! I have this REALLY BIG line of stuff to cast in fights and am working on fine tuning it and wondered if anyone could suggest a few of them that aren't just not worth the pixel space or the time to cast them in.</p>

[Delow]

<p>Well, the only ability I find worthless is Hail of Steel, and of course our fluff abilities. Other then those I have used our mez, snares and even sleight of hand fairly regularly. I just put those abilities on a seperate hotbar I use for misc things (click items and gear switch macros).</p>

[Mystfit]

<p>Yah, I can't find a good use for hail of steel either <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> /giggle, glad it's not just me.</p>

[RingleToo]

<p>I'm mildly surprised that no one has mentioned Sleight of Hand as one not worth having on the hotbar, but I guess we're all tired of talking about it.  Hail of Steel isn't much better. There was a time, long ago in a galaxy far away, that I found occassions on raids to use HoS when you had to stay at range to avoid AoEs. And there was that mob in Labs that did fire damage when you used melee attacks. Now, though, so many raid mobs have zone wide AoEs or require jousting that even if it were worth using I haven't found an occassion that it could be used since...well, probably Labs. So, I guess SoH is more useful. On a scale of 1 to 10 for putting them on my hotbar I'd give SoH a 1 and HoS a 0.</p>

[Remora]

<p>LoL, sleight of hand is far from useless.  I use it all the time during raid to make sure I dont pull aggro.  Just cast it on a healer when you are at like 60-70% hate, and wham....back down to 10.  Also is nice when you are tanking.</p>

[Errolflynn]

<p>If you don't raid Slight of Hand is pretty useless. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you raid ... Well I have it macroed on my hotbars four times each selecting a different healer to dump hate on. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p>

[RingleToo]

<p>I raid maybe once a week, so I don't really have much use for SoH. Besides, I went down Intel line, so aggro isn't much of an issue for me anyway. I do sacrifice some DPS (and really not all that much what with our AA lines), but I don't care about being high on the DPS list. Feign Death has proved to have its own merits on raids.</p><p>And it still bugs me that Aerilak would make our class defining CA (or for any other class) specifically useful, for all intents and purposes, only for raiders.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Mystfit wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yah, I can't find a good use for hail of steel either <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> /giggle, glad it's not just me.</p></blockquote><p>The only point I could see hail of steel having is if you want to do terrible dps and be useless.</p>

[Umbriel]

<p>I use Storm of steel sometimes... To keep me rooted when I know I'm about to be feared by Druushk for example.</p>

[Katanalla]

<p>Don't waste your time hotbarring Rrarwrk.</p>

[DngrMou]

<p>I'm raiding four days a week, and I have'nt needed SoH to avoid/dump aggro yet.  To many other abilities already do that.  SoH is redundant. </p><p>And yes, Hail of Steel is useless.</p>

[Errolflynn]

<p><cite>DngrMouse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm raiding four days a week, and I have'nt needed SoH to avoid/dump aggro yet.  To many other abilities already do that.  SoH is redundant. </p><p>And yes, Hail of Steel is useless.</p></blockquote><p>Since I've stopped using "The Signet of Betrayal" I haven't needed SoH either. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And yes Hail of Steel is useless.</p>

[Ryptide]

<p>SoH is useful with memwiping mobs.  Saved healers quite a few times.</p><p>Agreed, HoS is a waste of coding.</p>

[JoarAddam]

<p>i like soh when i'm out duoing with my wife...  she's all [Removed for Content]?  why am I getting hit all the time</p>

[Qojan]

<p>Sprint. With a mount I have 55% run speed</p>

[Thunndar316]

<p><cite>Katanallama@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't waste your time hotbarring Rrarwrk.</p></blockquote><p>Rrarwrk > SoH</p>

[DngrMou]

<p><cite>RingleToo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I raid maybe once a week, so I don't really have much use for SoH. Besides, I went down Intel line, so aggro isn't much of an issue for me anyway. I do sacrifice some DPS (and really not all that much what with our AA lines), but I don't care about being high on the DPS list. Feign Death has proved to have its own merits on raids.</p><p>And it still bugs me that Aerilak would make our class defining CA (or for any other class) specifically useful, for all intents and purposes, only for raiders.</p></blockquote><p>Our class defining ability is for tanks.  It's weak, and most won't ever bother using it.  Yeah, I can dump aggro on a 'healer', and I can also inadvertently cause that same healer to grab aggro with it.  Or cause aggro to ping pong from the tank, to me, to the tank, and back to me...leaving us both without the tools needed to keep aggro firmly on the tank.  Or I can feel heroic, and swashbucklery, and use it as a rescue.  Snag aggro from the overnuking wizzy...usually at about the same time the tank is popping whatever snap aggro 'rescue' abilities he or she might have, leading to a not so funny case of aggro ping pong, usually resulting in the deaths of many raiders.</p><p>For my class defining ability, I want something class defining for swashy's, not tanks.</p>

[TylurDurden]

<p>I really don't see how dumping your hate onto a healer will cause them to snag it.  You could put a healer to 95% on the hate meter and they will do nothing but fall off of the hate list.  Unless you are going with tanks that are really that bad.</p><p>Sleight of Hand is great for raid mobs that mem wipe.  Typically if they mem wipe and I use sleight on the tank within a second or two, you will drop very far down the list since the mob seemed to take the tank off of the list and you take their spot on the bottom.  It is a very situational ability, but great to pull raid boss mobs that memwipe out of the raid if the tank dies and get them away from healers and casters before an AE frontal hits them in the mouth.</p><p>And the ability isn't for tanks, we define ourselve by our hate transfer, it is more or less a class defining ability because we are suppost to keep tanks ontop of the hate list.  Typically that is what I use it for, as I have a macro that I just have a command line /target tank.  Next line is Use Ability Sleight of Hand.  I don't have to use it on casters unless the mob wipes the hate list and goes to eat em.</p><p>And Hail of Steel is only useful in Atrebe's on the last guy.</p>

[Harbringer Doom]

<p><cite>Qojan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Sprint. With a mount I have 55% run speed</p></blockquote><p>Swashy on a mount is blasphemy.</p>

[MystahMeanor]

<p>I disagree with now hotbarring Rrrawrk. I found it most useful on all ocassions to pull him out to annoy my guildies until they dragged me off to complete the Fabled. I didn't have to beg or ask. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>- Mystah Meanor</p><p>Lucan</p>