Experts on Death Wanted

[Elquinjena]

<p>We have graveyards and tombs in our lands but really, honestly...what is each races burial rituals?I am seeking one or two people who would be willing to come on the Jethal Silverwing show for Oct 27th for our Night of the Dead show. ( 7pm pst)We have been doing a series of race talks, having guest speakers on who then talk about the race they know best. There is one thing we have never covered before.death, dying and what is done with the dead of each race?do the high elves mummify their dead? do the barbarians set funnel priers and burn theirs?would wood elves bury theirs and plant trees over them? Do trolls eat their own dead?questions...questions..and what better time of year to cover this topic than during the Night Of the Dead.any takers?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>I don't think it's ever really been touched upon much, if at all, of how each race treats and buries their dead. I know that among Dark Elves, there's the Blood Moon festival they celibrate every so often where it's a normal process for a female to find a male, mate with them, and then kill them though.</p>

[Elquinjena]

<p>well its points like that, which should be brought up !!</p><p>We are also looking for a couple of people willing to come on the show and help explore this untouched area.</p>

[Meirril]

<p>It might be good role playing material, but the devs haven't really gone into that area of lore.</p><p>Qeynos and Freeport both have extensive crypts. There are a lot of graveyards dotting different portions of Norrath. The only pyre I can think of is the one in Nektulous Forest BUT pyres arn't normally permanent structures either.</p><p>The one thing that has been missing from any Troll menu that I've seen in EQ1 or EQ2 are dishes made with Troll. Say what you will about their culinary tastes, they technically arn't canibals. So, they have to do *something* with the bodies.</p><p>Most royalty seem to get entombed along with their most trusted (and powerful) servants. They also seem to bring some inordanantly powerful relics with them to the tomb. You kinda have to wonder why their decendents would allow such a thing... or for that matter why these trusted servants happened to die conviently in time to be sealed in with their masters. Maybe a little too convient?</p><p>With the huge amount of undead in EQ2 its quite suprising that ceremation isn't the perfered method of burial. It isn't like the people of Norrath are unfamiliar with the concept, just that they don't practice it. It also isn't like you don't expect every set of bones left to rot to animate on their own. There are entire zones of uncontrolled undead remains that have apparently self animated and started wandering about threatning the living. While you can't eliminate ghosts with a torch and a bed of dry timber the zombie and skeleton population could take a significant hit.</p><p>I actually thought this thread was asking for "experts" on Ethanere (which I am not).</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>That's right. You'll find out some of Qeynos' customs when you do the book quests from the library that focus around The Down Below, Vermin's Snye, and the Crypt of Betrayal.</p><p>If you dug around with the search feature, you'd be able to find some lore tidbits about the Graveyard in Freeport from some of our devs as well.</p><p>The dragons have quite a bit of lore surrounding their Necropoli. The Dragon Necropolis in Velious is obviously where the dragons' remains were laid to rest when they died. There was a huge pit at the far reaches of the necropolis inhabited by fire elemental who supposedly came from the very core of the planet itself. If a dragon tired of life after living for hundreds, even thousands of years, they could just jump into the giant pit of fire to cremate themselves. I know it's suicide, but for the dragon's culture, that was acceptable. It was pretty much instantaneous too.</p>

[shadowedwolf]

<p><em>Cleaning with the Crypt Keeper:</em></p><p><em>A long time ago, of course, folks were dressed in their finest duds, then laid out to rest in a proper coffin. When things got a bit hectic, around the War of Plagues, there were lots of dead folk, and some had no kin to bury them. That and with the diseases running rampant through Qeynos, the Cryptkeeper of that time decided it would be safer to burn up the bodies and put the ashes in little urns. It was a good idea, I just wish so many folk hadn't taken up the concept.</em></p><p>There is another book,<em> A Collection of Epithats</em> that talks a little of certain races and thier burial habits. For example, it mentions Halflings prefer to be buried vertically. It also mentions an 'interesting' tibit on the Ayr'Dal.</p><p>It would be interesting to find out how the various races deal with death... as I can only imagine our fantasy races are just as diverse as teh cultures here in real life.</p><p>I wish you luck on your search and can't wait to see what you and Jethal have cooked up for NotD. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Aurel]

<p><cite>shadowedwolf wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>There is another book,<em> A Collection of Epithats</em> that talks a little of certain races and thier burial habits. For example, it mentions Halflings prefer to be buried vertically. It also mentions an 'interesting' tibit on the Ayr'Dal.</blockquote><p>You beat me to it!  I was going to mention both of these books, but I had totally forgotten when I logged into transcribe them.  (;  I'll type up the "A Collection of Epitaphs" snippets, though.</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>"Of Humans and Halflings"  Humans and halflings may seem an odd combination for burial groupings, but it proved to be a very practical choice.  The humans preferred to be interred horizontally, while the halflings seemed to prefer a vertical burial.  That allowed for placement of tombs in very close proximity without wasted space.</em></p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>"Of Elves and Half-elves"  The elves buried beneath Qeynos often fell in battles of its defense and the residents of the town from its early days wanted to show respect to the elder children of Tunare.  While they generally shun the half-elven in life, the choice of burying them together was pure practicality -- there were fewer elves being buried and the humans refused to have half-elves buried amongst them, so they moved all half-elven tombs to the section reserved for the elves.</em></p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>"Of Dwarves and Barbarians"   Dwarves and barbarians formed alliances as they came to the city of men, both enjoying hearty meals and gaudy entertainment.  After the destruction of the northlands, the dwarves joked that the barbarians could be buried alongside them, if there be any reason to bury a dwarf.  The comment had been made in jest, but with so much upheaval in the lands, it was inevitable that many from all the races of Norrath would perish.</em></p><p>Also, another book:  "Guide to Collecting Crypt Plates"</p><p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>These plates [used to identify the tombs, coffins or sarcophagi of the deceased] are made of metal, usually something soft like tin or brass, and provided some basic information, such as name and lineage of that person.  In the most ancient of times, these plates were only used by the wealthy.  With so many modern conveniences in Norrath, however, many folks are making and using them ... In [the Age of Turmoil], only the titled and the wealthy could afford ornate plates.  Normal folk ... would have thin wooden tables which, of course, disintegrate over time ... Amalia Keinaira Bayle ... did not have a coffin; her plate was hung from a copper chain off one of the urns in the Crypt of Betrayal</em> ((cremation?))<em> .. In the old days, the families of the deceased were offered the plate before the interment .. The walls of urns in the Crypt of Betrayal are quite beautifully arranged.  This is in contrast to the way most of this level of the catacombs is maintained.</em></p><p>Hope some of that helps *nod*  If I think of any other books, and this info is helpful to anyone, I'll post it...</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>I would think that the Koada'dal would probably prefer burial in the earth itself, rather then entombed. as well as the Fier'dal. though there is a crypt in New Tunaria, where Mayong's servants seem to issue from. I'd wager heroes/champions/royalty probably were entombed, or some monument would be erected for them.</p><p>there's actually in New Tunaria there's a place where prominent members of the race (heroes) have items of power or personal artifacts on display. So I would guess if you were a great champion of tunare known for wielding a certain weapon, that weapon after you passed on may be kept and put on display as a relic, if it wasn't passed down as an hierloom of the family.</p><p>heh but yes I'd volunteer again! ;p</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>Koloara and Krideldek would be pleased to assist again, if needed, on the ceremony and death dealings of Teir'Dal.</p>

[Elquinjena]

<p>Sounds great guys ...I will tell jethal we have a Death Panel of 3 lined up..!!</p>

[Elquinjena]

<p>Remember this coming Tuesday Oct 27th on the Jethal Silverwing show at 7pm PST from Onlinegamingradio.com. We will be discussing this topic with guests Koloara, Krideldek and Rainy. If there is anything any of you wish to add to this topic, please post soon. We will be using this as a guideline for our talks.</p>

[therodge]

<p><cite>Elquinjena wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Remember this coming Tuesday Oct 27th on the Jethal Silverwing show at 7pm PST from Onlinegamingradio.com. We will be discussing this topic with guests Koloara, Krideldek and Rainy. If there is anything any of you wish to add to this topic, please post soon. We will be using this as a guideline for our talks.</p></blockquote><p>it should be noted that if talking about death in eq you cannot foret things like deathtoll (not the zone) ethnere etc, (sp)  i do not know specifically why a soul goes their but if a soul gets to ethnere, a limbo esk sort of place, they are trapped their for eternity unless they escape through what i beileve is deathtoll tower, i dont really remember the story its been awile deathtolls bell rings when something happens and all that sort of stuff, also when someone dies they have a chance to be judged by the tribunal which is a whole other thing but yeah just some talking points</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>therodge wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elquinjena wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Remember this coming Tuesday Oct 27th on the Jethal Silverwing show at 7pm PST from Onlinegamingradio.com. We will be discussing this topic with guests Koloara, Krideldek and Rainy. If there is anything any of you wish to add to this topic, please post soon. We will be using this as a guideline for our talks.</p></blockquote><p>it should be noted that if talking about death in eq you cannot foret things like deathtoll (not the zone) ethnere etc, (sp)  i do not know specifically why a soul goes their but if a soul gets to ethnere, a limbo esk sort of place, they are trapped their for eternity unless they escape through what i beileve is deathtoll tower, i dont really remember the story its been awile deathtolls bell rings when something happens and all that sort of stuff, also when someone dies they have a chance to be judged by the tribunal which is a whole other thing but yeah just some talking points</p></blockquote><p>You know, its too bad that we have absolutely no lore in EQ2 about Soul Binders like they have in EQ1. Then again, there isn't much lore about them in EQ1 either.</p>