Quest feather/completion book not showing above NPCs.

[Mysstie]

<p>Since the update, I no longer see the Quest Feathers or Books above NPCs.  This is in all zones I've been in, on multiple characters, and with the default UI.  I have tried all the combinations in the User Interface Options to show quest icons above NPCs.  Before the update I had it set to show outleved quests in addition to current level ones.</p><p>Tried a Full File Scan.  I do use the EQ2MAP skin and the feathers/books do show and blink on the MAP.  So, my system is aware that they should be there but just will not display them.</p><p>Any ideas?</p><p>Weird...</p>

[Mysstie]

I was in Nektulos Forest, and clicked on the option to show outleved Quests above NPCs and they appeared as grey feathers like normal. However, the quest feathers for my level still will not show above NPCs (Rush Order NPCs, the new Spire Repair quest guys, etc..) A few others are saying they have the same problem. I even created a new character using the default UI and no Quest Feather Icons appeared over the NPCs. Any ideas?

[Bridgeplay]

<p>I've also had this happen post-GU.  Three Station accounts all logged in at the same time and place.  Two accounts could see the feathers and books.  The third couldn't. All three accounts had a level 80 toon logged in, standing next to each other. I still haven't figured out what was different about the third account.</p>

[Mysstie]

So, does your problem only exist on that third account even if played on the same computer that has no problem with the other accounts? Just trying to narrow it down to a problem with the account or a problem with the computer it's played on. Thanks.

[Felipe]

<p>I know for a fact that it is cumputer related, not account.</p><p>I two box on my desktop and laptop. Since GU 53 my laptop can't see quest feathers above NPC heads but my desktop can. I logged on my account that normally goes on the laptop, to the desktop, and I could see all the feathers again.</p><p>Also I'm not sure if you guys are affected but on my laptop, the computer with the missing quest feathers, I also can't see pages for quests. You know, pages you pick up from the ground. But I can see shinies on the laptop. I don't get it. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And no, it's not because I don't have the quest. Both my accounts have the page quests and the desktop can see it on his screen while the laptop can't.</p>

[Bridgeplay]

<p>I had two accounts logged onto the same computer. One could see the feathers and one couldn't. The third account on a separate computer could see the feathers.</p><p>I suspect the problem is related to "improvements" in the shading.</p>

[Mysstie]

I set my Performance settings to Extreme just to see what that would do and no difference. If I remember correctly, I have shading turned off. I also deleted my C:GamesEverQuest IIcache directory to see what that would do. No difference. Bridgeplay: the two accounts you played on the same computer where one had the problem and one did not, are they both being played using the same installation of EQ2?

[Snotz27]

<p>I contacted chat support and they told me to do the following...</p><p><span ><p>TSR Eryk N.: You may want to make backups and then delete the following files and folders:cache foldereq2_recent.inieq2_default.iniEverQuest2.exee q2.iniAs well as the character specific files, these will appear as such:Servername_CharacterName_EQ2_uisettings.iniSt ationname_characters.iniTo do this, please follow these directions:1. First look for your EverQuest II directory. You can find the default directory in: C:Program FilesSonyEverQuest II2. Click on MY COMPUTER and then proceed into local disk C:3. Navigate your way to the default directory, or your chosen installation directory.4. Next look for any files explained above and delete them. 5. Afterwards, please start EverQuest II to have these files re-downloaded by the patcher.If deleting these files does not resolve your issue, you can restore your backed up files and folders and retain your hotkeys, contact lists, and display settings.</p><p>why can't they just patch the problem and save us all this grief...</p></span></p>

[Bridgeplay]

<p>This is absurd. What next? The Station Cash team selling us Feather Tokens to make them visible?</p><p><cite>Snotz27 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I contacted chat support and they told me to do the following...</p><p>TSR Eryk N.: You may want to make backups and then delete the following files and folders:cache foldereq2_recent.inieq2_default.iniEverQuest2.exee q2.iniAs well as the character specific files, these will appear as such:Servername_CharacterName_EQ2_uisettings.iniSt ationname_characters.iniTo do this, please follow these directions:1. First look for your EverQuest II directory. You can find the default directory in: C:Program FilesSonyEverQuest II2. Click on MY COMPUTER and then proceed into local disk C:3. Navigate your way to the default directory, or your chosen installation directory.4. Next look for any files explained above and delete them. 5. Afterwards, please start EverQuest II to have these files re-downloaded by the patcher.If deleting these files does not resolve your issue, you can restore your backed up files and folders and retain your hotkeys, contact lists, and display settings.</p><p>why can't they just patch the problem and save us all this grief...</p></blockquote>

[Snotz27]

<p>its pretty lame imo...especially for someone like me that really doesn't know much more about computers than plug and play...if i tried to do what is in those instructions, I'm sure I'd mess up and really screw something up...I asked what the alternative is and well, there isn't one according to them...guess i'll just have to get someone who knows how to follow those instructions over to help me...</p>

[Brigeye]

<p>I am having the same issue. I thought it might have been with my UI but from what I am seeing here this is a SOE issue.</p>

[Nyaln]

<p>Having same problem also and was told to do the same thing by support. Needless to say still can not see quest feather or quest complete book, but can see out leveled quest feather. Now just waiting to see what else they have to fix it.</p>

[Mysstie]

I made back-ups and deleted the files as mentioned above with no change in behavior. Still no quest feathers. Hmm.. I'm almost to the point of backing-up what I need and uninstalling the game and deleting my entire EverQuest II directory and re-install using my TSO CD. Ugh..

[Rothgar]

<p>The problem is most likely on our end and something we'll need to fix.  I'll contact tech support and let them know that their troubleshooting steps most likely won't have an affect on the problem.</p>

[Felipe]

<p>Thanks for the heads up Rothgar. I was waiting an official response before deleting or uninstalling anything, and I'm glad I did. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Do you need anything on our parts to help you fix the problem?</p>

[Mysstie]

Well.. just an FYI, I decided to rename the UIDefault directory to force the patcher to re-download the default skin. Same thing. Have not uninstalled the game itself yet. Guess I'll wait and see what the devs would have us try. I restored my files so I could recover my UI layout. Hehhh.. at least I'm glad it's more than just me.

[matlock065]

<p>Ditto, two accounts, two computers, neither showing quest icons.  Thanks to Rothgar for acknowledging it's an issue.</p>

[Gretcheen]

<p>I too am having this problem, Not seeing quest giver icons,since the GU 53 Update (09-23-09). If I check the box for "Show outleveled icons", I can see those...this is frustrating. At least I'm not the only one with this problem</p>

[EvilB]

<p><a href="list.m?start=0&topic_id=459373#5126579"> <img src="../styles/EQ2/eq2_classic/images/common/icon_minipost_new.gif" /></a>09/25/2009 17:26:55</p><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The problem is most likely on our end and something we'll need to fix.  I'll contact tech support and let them know that their troubleshooting steps most likely won't have an affect on the problem.</p></blockquote><p>I have been waiting for an update on whats going on. Guess we have to wait for the weekend to be over.</p><p>My wife and I have this problem as well. </p>

[Poacher69]

<p>So anyone get any new info on this yet. i have tried the deleting the files and i uninstalled eq2maps still no luck.</p>

[duuf]

<p>There are other areas where this bug is encountered.</p><p>Book pages on the ground cant be seen or picked up.</p><p>On my two box the pages lying onthe ground in the quest "Like a Book without Pages" are clearly visibile on my Laptop running Vista but cannot be seen or interacted with on my desktop at all running XP regardless of Performance Profile</p>

[Mysstie]

With only one system, it's hard for me to verify if I should be seeing a page on the ground or not. Suppose I could run around some zones where there are typically many around. Been crashing a lot more with this update as well, DirectX Out of Memory and loosing the Rendering Device errors.

[Lysanthir Ahmquissar]

<p>Just to add my name to the list - no accounts showing quest icons. Haven't been to areas with pages yet as in the Moors/FP atm.</p>

[Marnus]

<p>This is happening to me as well-the quest books and feathers show on the map, but not over the npc's heads.</p><p>Also, i have had to turn everything way down to be able to zone into the gh, or i get the "application has ran out of memory while requesting blah blah "issue and crash to desktop-that started with the launch of tso. Another problem since patch is when i do the quests at the spires in antonica-theres one quest where you have to go into an instance and kill 3 groups of mobs-every time i go to zone back out to ant, i lock up at "creating zone"-i can zone into antonica just fine from anywhere else, but when i try to zone from that instance, i have to hit exit, or it stays at 99% of creating zone. It seems like with every update, i have to keep turning the settings down,and now after this update, ive had to turn literally everything down  to where the quality of playing the game is poor, all the characters have no detail in their faces, and everything is blurry. I really like the additions/changes you folks made with these last couple of updates, but the quality of gameplay lately(ie graphics, crashing issues) is making me not want to play, as i spend more time zoning, crashing, relogging, etc.</p><p>'</p>

[gnasty]

<p>I to am haveing the same problem. I do not believe it is on my end. I have 2 computers one running win2000 and one running winxp. I can see overhead quest icons for outleveled but not ones for my level. After I first noticed the problem I switced computers and it was duplicated on second one. I turn off show overhead quest icons and they all disappeared and if I turn off show outleveled quest the outlevel icons dissapear. I have not noticed the pages not being there but will take a look after I log on tonight.</p>

[squidexplosion]

<p>Same problem as mentioned by other posters. SoE first told me to do the delete UI stuff. Didn't work. Then they told me to turn off all non MS services which I wouldn't do. Final response was I must have a non SoE UI which I don't. Only EQ2 map. So just using the minimap to look for feathers and books til they fix this bug. (I hope)</p>

[EvilB]

<p>I have been looking over other forums as well and no one has gotten any info on what is going on.</p><p>I also noticed that the hotfix was pushed to the 30th , will it include a fix for this?</p><p>any info , even if its we're still looking into it, would be good.</p>

[Poacher69]

<p>So I did the file things deleteing the cache and what not. Then I talked to the tech person and they said reinstalling eq2 so I did repatched and everything, log in and there still not there. So wasted my day off trying to fix it and downloading that 8 hour patch was not fun. Hope they figure what the did.</p>

[Mysstie]

This is a weird one. One of my guild mates has 1 computer that works fine and then another older computer with just 1 Gig of RAM (mine also only has 1 Gig of RAM) that does not show the Quest feathers. She's logging on as the same character on both. Seems to be something they did on their end that only manifests itself on our end under certain situations but there appears nothing we can do on our end to fix it, except perhaps a new system and then there's no guarantee. Let's hope the upcoming Hotfix solves it BTW, ran around the Feerrott where I usually see lots of pages on the ground and saw none.

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Mysstie@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>This is a weird one. One of my guild mates has 1 computer that works fine and then another older computer with just 1 Gig of RAM (mine also only has 1 Gig of RAM) that does not show the Quest feathers. She's logging on as the same character on both. </blockquote><p>Greetings,</p><p>Are those computers on a network?  If so, you might want to try copying the game files from the computer that is not experiencing this problem to the computer that is.  If you decide to try that then please let us know whether or not it works.</p>

[Felipe]

<p>To help clarify, from my experiences anyway, it's the animated pages that do not show.</p><p>I had a quest to pick up a map from the floor and I saw it. It was a flat piece of paper with no animation.</p><p>I had another quest to collect pages, the animated ones that appear to be flapping in the wind, those I could not see.</p>

[Hlaku]

<p>I'm having issues with feathers, books, pages as well. However, I want to add something else to the list as well. In Kylong Plains there is a quest "Another Creature" and I can't see that creature even though I know the location and tried scanning my mouse pointer over the area but no success. Is it possible that this quest bug is also related to the same issue causing problems with feathers etc?</p>

[Mysstie]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mysstie@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>This is a weird one. One of my guild mates has 1 computer that works fine and then another older computer with just 1 Gig of RAM (mine also only has 1 Gig of RAM) that does not show the Quest feathers. She's logging on as the same character on both. </blockquote><p>Greetings,</p><p>Are those computers on a network?  If so, you might want to try copying the game files from the computer that is not experiencing this problem to the computer that is.  If you decide to try that then please let us know whether or not it works.</p></blockquote><p>Well, what file and/or files contain the quest feather/completion books and animated pages on the ground images? About the only game files I have not wiped out myself are the .VPK files in the PAKS directory (which is 10Gigs or so in size). I have no idea how their computers are set up.  My EverQuest II directory is 12 Gigs in size.. you know how long that would take to copy over a network? Let's narrow it down to some specific files. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If a file was corrupt, wouldn't a Full File Scan catch it anyway, unless, the file on the server itself was corrupt?</p><p>Here's a better question: what setting or option other than the obvious one to show Quest Icons above NPCs would cause both them and animated, flopping in the wind pages on the ground to not show?</p><p>Anyway, until the hotfix comes out, I'm not doing any additional troubleshooting.</p>

[EvilB]

<p>I agree with what you stated in your last post</p><p>I have reinstalled  on both my wifes machine and mine to "fix" this problem.</p><p>Nothing has change on my machine except the updates we had since the 23rd.</p><p>From what I read in the hotfix, this problem isn't even mentioned.</p><p>Some one suggested ( on another forum ) that it must be a 3rd party add on but I only run what came wtih the game.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Mysstie@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>  My EverQuest II directory is 12 Gigs in size.. you know how long that would take to copy over a network? Let's narrow it down to some specific files. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> If a file was corrupt, wouldn't a Full File Scan catch it anyway, unless, the file on the server itself was corrupt?</p></blockquote><p>Assuming it's a lan network and you're using somewhat modern hard drives, I imagine it would take about 30 minutes at most.  If I was able to narrow down the list of files then I certainly would, but I really don't know which one it would be in this case.  I have spent about an hour searching through the UI files and couldn't find anything.  I'm guessing its in one of the pak files but I don't know which.</p><p>I assume you have already tried a full file scan and it didn't work?  It would be nice if the full file scan corrected the problem but that doesn't seem to be the case here.  I believe that transferring the files between computers is the most logical choice as a short term fix.  Waiting for a hotfix is a legitimate option as well, though.</p>

[Cat]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> Waiting for a hotfix is a legitimate option as well, though.</p></blockquote><p>Does that mean that the hotfix comming 10-1-09 might have it?</p><p>Or would it be a later one?</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Catsu@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> Waiting for a hotfix is a legitimate option as well, though.</p></blockquote><p>Does that mean that the hotfix comming 10-1-09 might have it?</p><p>Or would it be a later one?</p></blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but I wouldn't have specific information about what the hotfix will contain.  In that regard I get my information from the same patch notes everyone else sees.</p>

[thunderpuck]

<p>I too have this bug and have been folowing this thread. Here is what I have learned..</p><p> 1)  this bug efects only a small numbrer of players on every server.</p><p> 2) uninstalling and reinstalling any files on your computer does not fix this bug.</p><p> 3) Checking the overhead feathers box in options, turning on your show particals, and any other setting you can play with does not fix this bug.</p><p> 4) the hot fix on the 30th has come and gone and that has not fixed this bug.</p><p>This leads me to believe that the problem is on SoE's end.</p><p>It would appear that our options are limited. Because there are not meny of us, we <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>all</strong></span> need submit a bug report in game using the /petition command. Spread the word on your server. This would seem to be the only way SoE tech will know how big a problem it is.</p>

[Cat]

<p>I was out to the store and whileout there I had a thought</p><p>is it only Nvidia?</p><p>I havn't seen a person so far that said they have this problem that </p><p>said "I have an ATI" or " I have a generic card" unless I missed it.</p>

[Felipe]

<p><cite>Catsu@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was out to the store and whileout there I had a thought</p><p>is it only Nvidia?</p><p>I havn't seen a person so far that said they have this problem that </p><p>said "I have an ATI" or " I have a generic card" unless I missed it.</p></blockquote><p>That's a great point.</p><p>My desktop that works - ATI</p><p>My laptop that doesn't - Nvidia</p>

[Cat]

<p>Both of the machines we have an Nvidia card</p><p>I am replacing one machine tomorrow with a new one</p><p>which just happens to have an Nvidia card in it I wonder</p><p>if it will have the same problem after I install it on there.</p>

[Levatino]

<p>hi i also have this bug, can't see any feathers. I too have a NVIDIA card.</p><p>but it defenitly is patch related, cause before patch no problem. had internetloss for a week so could only download patch yesterday since then this problem occured.</p><p>haven't tried to delete anything since Rothgar stated in this thread it probably is a problem on SOE's end.</p><p>will petition the problem.</p><p>btw I also notice an increase in D3Drendering errors since patch, maybe related? Will go to a lower level of performance but never had it this bad.. even on newbie island (freeport)</p>

[Mysstie]

<p>Hmmm.. I have an EVGA NVidia 6800GT on my system. During all this I initially had version 178.13 drivers and now have 190.62. Both driver versions had no quest feathers. I'll ask my guildmate with the two systems what graphic cards are in each. I did also experience one instance where a whole NPC did not render (I could see other people hail the NPC I was trying to find) and several around had no armor on. I restarted the game and was then able to see everything properly as far as the NPCs and their armor were concerned.</p><p>Just ran the patcher and the EverQuest2.exe is still dated 9-25-2009 so the hotfix has not been applied yet (which I would assume include a new EverQuest2.exe).  I think it's due to come out later on October 1st in a few hours.</p>

[Snotz27]

<p>I run an ATI Radeon 1950pro and cannot see the quest feathers since the live update...</p><p>Only way this is going to get fixed is if we all continuously bombard them with "bug reports" until they get the message...It has nothing to do with the video cards we use...</p>

[Cat]

<p><cite>Snotz27 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I run an ATI Radeon 1950pro and cannot see the quest feathers since the live update...</p><p>Only way this is going to get fixed is if we all continuously bombard them with "bug reports" until they get the message...It has nothing to do with the video cards we use...</p></blockquote><p>It was a thought, that could have narrowed it down</p><p>I really don't think bombarding them with bug reports will fix it,</p><p>wouldn't that just take up a bunch of their time to read every report on the same thing which in turn take the time</p><p>away from actually fixing it.</p><p>They do read the boards and have posted in this thread.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Catsu@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It was a thought, that could have narrowed it down</p><p>I really don't think bombarding them with bug reports will fix it,</p><p>wouldn't that just take up a bunch of their time to read every report on the same thing which in turn take the time</p><p>away from actually fixing it.</p><p>They do read the boards and have posted in this thread.</p></blockquote><p>Regarding bug reports, it never hurts to send one in with the issue and your general computer specs.  Just don't send in multiple bug reports from the same account about the same issue unless you have something significant to add.  The bug report will then go to the QA team to be checked/reproduced before being sent to the dev team.</p>

[Mysstie]

This Hotfix did not fix any of my bugs. One of them also being that the by-products of making items still have my Name on them but the actual item does not. Reverse effect of what GU53 was supposed to do with tradeskill by-products. I did do a "/bug" report on the specific items (adornments). Still no quest feathers. Ergh..

[Brigeye]

<p><cite>Catsu@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was out to the store and whileout there I had a thought</p><p>is it only Nvidia?</p><p>I havn't seen a person so far that said they have this problem that </p><p>said "I have an ATI" or " I have a generic card" unless I missed it.</p></blockquote><p>I use a Radeon X1900 GT witch is from ATI Technologies and gives me this quest bug.</p>

[Levatino]

<p>any news on this issue? I don't want to progress with my main cause affraid of missing quests.. have an alt I just started and I know basically where to get all the quests on that level but it's hard to do later on in areas where I've not been before..</p>

[Marnus]

<p>I use ATI as well, and I am having this problem still. I tried deleting my ui files, eq2exe, all the .ini's that were mentioned, and still cant see the feathers/books. I can however, zone into the gh without crashing now, though it takes 3-5 minutes to finish zoning into the gh.  I've decided to not play for a bit anyway. With the lag, constant crashing, and just general "buggy-ness" of late, the game just isn't fun for me. Take care all, and hopefully they'll have everything fixed soon.</p>

[Andtercel]

Ok, looking through these posts, I see that it has not been fixed. I as well am having the same problem, however my updated map shows feathers/books so i just go off that. Also, my trusty parrot which I gained from LON is not showing...that is the bigger deal here.

[PsiberDaemon]

<p>Here's some additional info (don't know if it will help or not)</p><p>1) Work Machine (this one won't display quest feathers/books, but everything else (including shineys) ok)</p><p>ATI Radeon 9250 (PCI), P4 2.4Ghz, 1Gb RAM, Windows XP Pro SP3</p><p>2) Home Machine (works just fine, all across the board)</p><p>NVIDIA FX5200 (PCI), P4 2.8Ghz, 2Gb RAM, Windows XP Pro SP3</p><p>Both rigs have the latest patched EQ2, neither of them have had any driver updates prior to the patch.  Yeah, they're PCI, but hey, you make due with what you can LOL.  Both of them are 256Mb cards, though I don't think that's really a factor.  I DID notice that when hailing the Appreciation Token Vendor, the items for sale have no icons (just a black square) and you can purchase the item and a black square appears in your inventory (this is on the work machine, last night I had no such issues on the home machine)</p><p>Hope this gives you a little more info...</p>

[Mysstie]

<p><cite>Sikaan@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Here's some additional info (don't know if it will help or not)</p><p>1) Work Machine (this one won't display quest feathers/books, but everything else (including shineys) ok)</p><p>ATI Radeon 9250 (PCI), P4 2.4Ghz, 1Gb RAM, Windows XP Pro SP3</p><p>2) Home Machine (works just fine, all across the board)</p><p>NVIDIA FX5200 (PCI), P4 2.8Ghz, 2Gb RAM, Windows XP Pro SP3</p><p>Both rigs have the latest patched EQ2, neither of them have had any driver updates prior to the patch.  Yeah, they're PCI, but hey, you make due with what you can LOL.  Both of them are 256Mb cards, though I don't think that's really a factor.  I DID notice that when hailing the Appreciation Token Vendor, the items for sale have no icons (just a black square) and you can purchase the item and a black square appears in your inventory (this is on the work machine, last night I had no such issues on the home machine)</p><p>Hope this gives you a little more info...</p></blockquote><p>I'm curious, if you reduced your 2Gb system down to 1Gb, does it still work?  You're the second one I know with two systems and it's the one with 1Gb that doesn't work. My system is a P4 2.4 GHz, 1Gb RAM, but with Windows XP Home SP3, and NVidia 6800GT.</p>

[squidexplosion]

<p>Well I have an ATI card and am also bugged. One new bug found since I posted earlier--An mob in Miragual--Anthema has gone invis on me also. The Red skulls needed to pop Named. Oddly if a group member targets them and combat occurs then briefly skulls will appear as mob dies.</p><p>Obviously this is some weird code on SoE's end. At least support didn't give me the standard "reformat your hard drive" but maybe that's only because I stopped petitioning after they told me to turn off all my non-MS services</p>

[Gretcheen]

<p>Problem only appeared after the GU 53 Update: Specs::Alienware; Xp Pro; Ati Radeon 9550 SE 128 M;1,024 MB Ram.</p><p>And still waiting for the Hot-Fix. Seems affects ATI & NVIDIA.</p>

[Nyaln]

<p>Well found another thing for me that is missing besides the feathers and colletion pages today. Was doing my 3rd diety quest for the Tribunal where you go to feerrott and after talking ot npc you need to find 2 runes. Went to both spots the runes are at and cant see them and no way to target them so i cannot finish the quest.</p><p>That is not the only quest i have not been able to find the clicky item i need since the update, have a few that cannot complet now. Hopefully they will get this fixed soon. Could deal with the no at level quest giver feathers, completion books and no page colletion pick ups but when will not let me finish quests that is a big problem.</p>

[Levatino]

<p>have the same problem can't click clicky items, please solve this problem..</p>

[Mew]

<p>I am having the same issue with quest icons not appearing over the NPC's.  Nvidia GeForce 6200 OC PCI with the ver 90 drivers.  Win XP SP3 for OS.  1 GB RAM.  Tried various performance settings with no joy.  Turned off and on the UI settings for quests.  Still no help.  Did a full file scan. No help.</p>

[Gretcheen]

<p>Almost two weeks, and still NO FIX. No NPC quest icons, & probably more. which I haven't seen yet.</p><p>Getting frustrating!! All worked fine before the GU 53 Update.</p>

[Levatino]

<p><cite>fergusnutzak wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Almost two weeks, and still NO FIX. No NPC quest icons, & probably more. which I haven't seen yet.</p><p>Getting frustrating!! All worked fine before the GU 53 Update.</p></blockquote><p>QFE</p><p>It did work before update, can only hope it's fixed with  next hotfix</p>

[Jazzsinger]

<p>I have just returned to playing after a break - finally got it all installed after an 18 hour ish download time and......</p><p>What no feathers?</p><p>I have been reading all the posts from various people this bug affects but am staggered that nearly 2 weeks after the update they dont consider this an important enough issue to fix promptly!</p><p>Maybe they should rename it Neverquest2 - because unless you have the icons on the map or a VERY good memory - Its frustrating to say the least.</p><p>I hope the 12 hour maintenance tomorrow fixes this for everyone (and all the random crashes for no apparent reason)</p><p>/pray!</p>

[Cat]

<p><cite>Jazzymine wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I hope the 12 hour maintenance tomorrow fixes this for everyone (and all the random crashes for no apparent reason)</p></blockquote><p>Where did you see that it was a 12hr maintenance?</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=460145" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=460145</a></p><p><span ><p>"Greetings Norrath.</p><p>Our usual Tuesday hotfix will be Wednesday this week.</p><p>6am PDT for the US servers and 9pm PDT (5am Oct 8 GMT) for our UK friends.</p><p>Thank you and happy gaming!"</p><p>Thats the only post I have seen so far about it and that was the whole post  - no detals - <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></span></p>

[PsiberDaemon]

<p><cite>Catsu@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span>Our usual Tuesday hotfix will be Wednesday this week.</span></p><p><p>6am PDT for the US servers and 9pm PDT (5am Oct 8 GMT) for our UK friends.</p></p></blockquote><p>Server status page says 1 hour...  Here's hoping it's fixed!</p><p>Here is the link...  <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/network_status.vm">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...twork_status.vm</a></p>

[Abbis]

<p>i posted new question about loading up a second game, and losing eq2 maps.</p><p>tried reloading several time, nothing.</p><p>and yes this is since the last update. so what gives?</p>

[Jazzsinger]

<p>My apologies for the incorrect posting of 12 hour maintenance - I misread the date <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Still if the maintenance is only an hour I dont expect we will see any fix to the quest feathers - not even sure they know whats causing it (roughly translates to "we are unable to give an ETA at this point") </p><p>However not all doom and gloom!</p><p>Yesterday tried out the automated Character Transfer from a EU server to US one and it was very slick and trouble free - not to mention at a more reasonable cost (now they dropped from $50 to $25) Good one SOE!!</p>

[Mew]

<p>Today's hot fix repaired the problem for me.  I see feathers!</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Today's hot fix repaired the problem for me.  I see feathers!</p></blockquote><p>/happydance</p>

[Mysstie]

I can now see quest feathers as well. Also played around 5 hours without crashing... granted most of that time was spent in a tradeskill instance but I was also in a few other zones. Yay! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Cat]

<p>What ever code was changed Thanks!</p><p>When I read about he first " see them" I let my wife know about it </p><p>and we logged on. While she went looking for a feather/book I myself</p><p>logged on with a character that I knew was going to be near a few </p><p>and when I got controll of the screen I ran forward then looked right</p><p>and there it was. /joy</p><p>Then after a few moments we sadly logged off to do some real time stuff</p><p>mind you both were thinking of EQ2 and what we were going to be doing.</p><p>Now after Doc's tomorrow and a few other things we can play. woot!</p><p>Again thanks for change in the code. You guys rock.</p>

[Levatino]

<p>they returned for me as well, thanks for fixing!</p>

[TSR-KenC]

<p>Awesome to hear. If anyone, for some reason, still has this issue - please let us know. Otherwise, quest feathers for all!</p>

[Snotz27]

<p>Once again, as of today, November 6, 2009,  i am not seeing quest feathers and quest completion books.  What happened, I thought they had it fixed ????</p>

[matlock065]

<p><cite>Snotz27 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Once again, as of today, November 6, 2009,  i am not seeing quest feathers and quest completion books.  What happened, I thought they had it fixed ????</p></blockquote><p>Same for me, the feathers and books had come back in October for me, and I logged back in today and they're gone again.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Poacher69]

<p>Yes once again the quest icons above the npc's head are not showing up. I thought they got that fixed like a few weeks ago I tried all the stuff they said to do and still no luck...</p>

[Mysstie]

Check this thread out concerning it not working after the 11/02 update: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=462031" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=462031</a>

[Poacher69]

<p>So there any updates on how to fix it or are they working on it?</p>

[Prat]

<p>I'm still trolling the boards looking for a resolution to this.   I have 2 machines that this is still a problem with and can't seem to figure it out.    Any thing else I can try?</p>

[thunderpuck]

<p>I too still have this problem. But not every session. and someetimes when it is showing them, during a session, they stop showing if I zone. It's been a long time and this problem is getting old.</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>I still don't think we have a repro case for this.  Which patcher are you using?  Is this the streaming client?</p>

[Purr]

<p>My oldest system still runs this problem, not using streaming client on it.</p><p>Purr~Test Server = priceless</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Purr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My oldest system still runs this problem, not using streaming client on it.</p><p>Purr~Test Server = priceless</p></blockquote><p>Do you have multiple systems?  If so, have you tried copying all of your settings from the options window from the working computer to the buggy computer to see if the problem goes away?</p><p>I wonder if it has something to do with any of the graphics settings.  If that does seem to fix the problem, I'd like to get a copy of your graphics settings.</p>

[Purr]

<p>Actually I just found a fix working for me without the copying: closed everything, changed my desktop resolution to 1280x1024. Started EQ2, reset to full screen, changed to 1280x1024 and after the reset back to the lowest possible setting ( this old system really can't handle more). Now feathers/books show up.</p><p>Reset desktop to 1024/768. Rebooted. Started EQ2: feathers/books still there.</p><p>Caution: I lost feathers/books a few times on a newer system, too. Usually after patches. Test has a lot of those...</p><p>Not sure if that helps. Will post if I lose them again</p><p>Purr~</p>

[ranger1]

<p>I have the completion books but missing the feathers.  This has been an ongoing issue.  Why can't someone go back to when people first started reporting this and check the update that occured just before that? Seems like that would make the most logical sense to me.</p>

[Mysstie]

I still have the problem. If it was simply a graphic setting, the problem should be there as soon as you start playing the game, correct? It should be drawing and using the same graphic images/textures, correct? The problem does not occur (for me), until I zone the first time. Sometime it will take 2 zonings to cause it. My graphic settings don't mysteriously change during zoning do they? When the Quest feathers go away, the reward books still seem to appear. My guess is that it's something related to the "garbage cleanup", "memory allocation/deallocation", "NPC quest icon status" or something that happens during zoning. When the problem starts, I can turn in a quest (I see the book), and do not see the feather when the NPC is offering the next quest (I can see it on the map). So, even the real-time status change of the NPC is not triggering it to show. It's almost like it's checking to see if the feather image is in memory or loaded and a false positive comes back. The problem happens with whatever graphic settings though.. my normal settings or "extreme performance". I do run 1280x1024 Full Screen, XP Home SP3, 1Gig RDRAM, Intel D850EMV2 MB, NVidia 6800GT with driver versions 178.13 to 196.21 that I'm currently running. The driver version has made no impact that I can tell. Until you can reproduce this on your end, guess we're all kinda SOL.

[Purr]

<p>Also wondering if certain cards are more prone to that problem. Or if it's a memory issue.Also: I'm running SP3 of XP Pro/32 still. No idea if Vista or Win7 users have that problem...</p><p>My cards/mem:</p><p>NVIDEA GeForce 9800 GT / 4 G             had that problem once last year</p><p>NVIDEA GeForce 8500 GT / 4 G             had that problem 3 or 4 times over the last year, usually cleared with a new patch]</p><p>NVIDEA GeDorce 6600     / 1 G              is the one that has that problem frequently, reseting graphic resolution fixed it yesterday, but like the others it seems to lose it out of the blue, just far more often than the second system.</p><p>All 3 run the same driver, chips: Intel i7 Quad / Intel Duo / Pentium 4. I trashed an older AMD last year which never go the feathers/books back after the problem was first reported.</p><p>I have done the copying yesterday and will post when it happens again.</p><p>Purr~*loves to catch bugs*</p>

[Prat]

<p>Oooohh,  I fixed it on my two machines.</p><p>Here is what I did:<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...;displaylang=en</a>Not sure if that link is good or a PURL, but its the web MS Direct X updater.   I ran that, updated my direct x,  logged back on, and whahla.  Quest icons all around!Must have had something out of date with DX is my guess.</p>

[Purr]

<p>Okay: lost feathers again. Worked fine for one character, switched to another account, feathers are gone. That's for the above mentioned 3rd (oldest) system. OOI -  sorry</p><p>Purr~</p>

[Prat]

<p>Still working on one so far... but one of them is missing them again.  false alarm <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Mysstie]

Yeah, I installed that DirectX update as well and no change. I used my druid port spell to port within the same zone and afterwards lost feathers/books. Gets tough in some places with many NPCs close together.

[Prat]

<p>I deleted my eq2 directory from the non-working computer, then copied the working version to the machine that did not work:   no dice.The only effect it had was that I had to redo my UI <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </p><p>I do alot of software testing for work, so I'm no stranger to the precedures and methodoliges of software testing.   Its probably safe to assume the code is written per the MS DX API, so the bug must be something related to the hardware and the way direct x renders the instructions.   Or lack of rendering for that matter! heh <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />   I didn't do any extensive testing to reproduce it.  The feeling I get is that if I come in clean and fresh,  I get them, then by actively gaming for a few, zoning and whatnot they dissapear.   Because at first I DID see them on all machines and thought I licked the problem. But of course that wasn't the case, as all the machines with the bug seem to be back to square one.Let me know if anyone has any other ideas short of using different hardware.</p>

[ranger1]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I still don't think we have a repro case for this.  Which patcher are you using?  Is this the streaming client?</p></blockquote><p>With all the people having this issue, I find it hard to believe that no one working on this game has experianced this issue. Even on their home machines.  Im not a professional or anything, but I am guessing that this issue is pretty low on the priority list or else it would be fixed.</p>

[direflyazure]

<p>I updated EQ2 maps and my quest feathers and books are back.  I would suggest deleting EQ2 from your UI if updating it doesn't work.  Or deleting any other UI you are using as well and go straight up default.</p>

[squidexplosion]

<p>Well if I'm using EQ2 UI and have updated EQ2 maps and the bug is still occurring even after SoF was installed exactly what am I supposed to delete? The whole game?</p><p>Hopefully after a few weeks of debugging any SoF problems they will have time to finally address this bug</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>Just to let you guys know, we finally have a system that will repro this problem and we're taking a look at it again.  Hopefully the act of loading our development tools on this system won't "fix" it. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Rothgar]

<p>Bugs are SO much easier to fix when you can actually get them to occur!</p><p>As I mentioned yesterday, we finally got a system that exhibited the problem and our senior coder extraordinaire, Brian Belfield, fixed the problem today.</p><p>This issue only happened on systems that were going into "low mem mode" which was one of the reasons it was difficult to catch.</p><p>As soon as this fix has passed QA we'll get it out in the next hotfix, probably next Tuesday.</p>

[Purr]

<p>Thank you so much, Rothgar. Looking forward to that fix.</p><p>Purr~</p>

[Mysstie]

Sweet! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Thanks Rothgar and Brian!

[Sheerz]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Bugs are SO much easier to fix when you can actually get them to occur!</p><p>As I mentioned yesterday, we finally got a system that exhibited the problem and our senior coder extraordinaire, Brian Belfield, fixed the problem today.</p><p>This issue only happened on systems that were going into "low mem mode" which was one of the reasons it was difficult to catch.</p><p>As soon as this fix has passed QA we'll get it out in the next hotfix, probably next Tuesday.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder what you mean by "low mem mode" as I got this problem yesterday on my pc which is an i7 6Gb ram and EQ2 was the only running program aside from background services.</p><p>/Loqe</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>Even though you have 6gm of RAM, there is still a memory limit for each 32-bit process.  You may have hit the process limit for EQ2.</p>

[ericdagreat]

<p>My system specs:</p><p>Microsoft Windows Xp Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 3</p><p>Intel Pentium D CPU 3.20GHz, 1.00 GB of RAM</p><p>DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0</p><p>Display: NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE</p>

[Bunji]

<p>The fix for this is currently on Test server.  If you're having the issue, we recommend jumping on Test to see if the issue is fixed on your computer.</p>

[Mysstie]

Ok. I followed the directions for playing on the Test Server (Copying everything into the TestServer directory except for the folders and files mentioned) and made a couple characters in Gfay standing next to the Matron of The Nursery. I also have two characters on the live server in Gfay next to the Matron of the Nursery. On the live server, if I swapped characters once, I would lose the quest feather over her head. On the Test Server I was able to swap characters multiple times without losing the feather over her head. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> On the Test Server it's kind of tough to really test it out by going to Moors and other zones with a 1st level toon but it does appear to better than what's happening on live with a similar comparison test. Looks promising.

[Bunji]

<p>This fix is now on live (went in with today's Hotfix).</p>

[Mysstie]

Haven't been able to play until tonight (the 2nd), and it looks like the problem has been solved for me. I zoned over 10 times doing quests and the books/feathers kept working properly. Thanks!! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Fadedspirit]

<p>Interesting <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />!</p>

[squidexplosion]

<p>It appear the hotfix has fixed the problem. I have not had it occur since then. Fingers crossed. Thanks for keeping at this.</p>

[Drakah]

<p>I am just noticing this today, relogging fixed it but after a while, I am missing the feathers again.</p><p>Anyone else?</p>

[Coolit]

<p>I have exactly the same issue since the last hotfix, no feather's above NPC's heads in any zone, something clearly got broken <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[Therendil]

<p>I had seen this intermittently, but is was there full-time after the last hotfix. This time, zoning and logging don't seem to change things. I /bug'd it again last night with the new info.</p>

[Silkmyst]

<p>Same problem here.  Intermittently i can see quest feathers, then I zone and all I see is a grey ball over the nead</p><p>of NPC's.</p><p>Never have had this problem in the past. </p><p>Silk</p>

[Felshades]

<p>Big thread about this in general.</p><p>no need to necro an old one :/</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Locking this up.  Update your UI's, EQ2Maps, etc and if the problem persists we'll have to wait until we get development responses on the matter.  For development input we should stick to the threads on this topic that are outside of these support forums.  The support forums are not frequented by the dev team and are solely operated by the Tech Support department.</p>