Marketplace Issue - Security Number

[Trulaf]

<p>I'm trying to add funds to my wallet using /marketplace. When it asks for my security number, the button greys out after I type it in. Anyone else have this issue, or maybe any resolutions?</p><p>Thanks.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Trulaf wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm trying to add funds to my wallet using /marketplace. When it asks for my security number, the button greys out after I type it in. Anyone else have this issue, or maybe any resolutions?</p><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Usually you can correct this by simply closing and restarting the browser.  If that doesn't work then you may need to clear your cookies/browsing history from Internet Explorer.</p>

[Seidhkona]

<p>I've also had poor results trying to do any Station transactions using Firefox. If you are not using MSIE, try that.</p>

[Kiara]

<p><cite>Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've also had poor results trying to do any Station transactions using Firefox. If you are not using MSIE, try that.</p></blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p>

[Yimway]

<p>Safe as in you like security exploits and don't enjoy standardization and you don't mind a bizilion popups...</p><p>But yeah, the marketplace works better on IE, but to me thats just one more reason to avoid using it <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Safe as in you like security exploits and don't enjoy standardization and you don't mind a bizilion popups...</p><p>But yeah, the marketplace works better on IE, but to me thats just one more reason to avoid using it <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>read the Cert security bulletins, firefox has the same amount of security flaws, if not more sometimes.</p>

[Kiara]

<p>No... Safe because IE is guaranteed to be supported.  Everyone else is iffy.  All of our registration, purchasing whatever stuff runs on IE.</p><p>That's why.</p>

[feldon30]

I also use Firefox, and I recommend everyone else do so for security reasons. And because I think it's just a less confusing and straightforward browser than the increasingly convoluted interface of IE7 and IE8 (which hid the menu bar and added increasingly confusing button and taskbar choices and eliminated some of the customization of IE6). I do understand and appreciate that all the EQ2 and Station website apps were built years ago when IE was the big game in town, but I am not lying when I say the only fire up IE to use Station and one or two other sites which have not yet been updated to web standards. I'm not trying to create an argument, but a web designer, I build my sites fore Firefox and then spend hours grudgingly trying to work around all the bugs in IE. Firefox has earned has a solid 25% of the U.S. web browser market share. In Europe, this is closer to 40%. Maybe a suggestion to put forth to the web team to try to make Station and other sites work a bit smoother with Firefox. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Jrral]

<p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>No, given IE's history of security problems it's a very dangerous bet to be using IE. I have a simple policy: I use IE to connect to my employer's servers when VPN'd in to the corporate network, and to run Windows Update. All other Web usage is done with a safer browser.</p><p>And I'd note that your own in-game browser is based on Mozilla. I'd opine that it's probably not smart to make the Marketplace unusable from your own game's browser.</p>

[Seidhkona]

<p>As a reminder, it's not about which browser is best - I use Firefox exclusively when I am not shopping at some site that requires MSIE.</p><p>The issue is to let people know that if you want to buy online through Station, use MSIE, because like it or not, that's what works.</p>

[feldon30]

<p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>No, given IE's history of security problems it's a very dangerous bet to be using IE.</p></blockquote><p>I assure you, Kiara was referring to IE being the "targeted" browser for Station websites, not that it is a better or safer browser by any stretch of the imagination.</p>

[Haliken]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>No, given IE's history of security problems it's a very dangerous bet to be using IE.</p></blockquote><p>I assure you, Kiara was referring to IE being the "targeted" browser for Station websites, not that it is a better or safer browser by any stretch of the imagination.</p></blockquote><p>Thank you. I was going to say the exact same thing.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>No, given IE's history of security problems it's a very dangerous bet to be using IE. I have a simple policy: I use IE to connect to my employer's servers when VPN'd in to the corporate network, and to run Windows Update. All other Web usage is done with a safer browser.</p><p>And I'd note that your own in-game browser is based on Mozilla. I'd opine that it's probably not smart to make the Marketplace unusable from your own game's browser.</p></blockquote><p>Again review the Cert database for a enlighting event on those "other browsers" Thier history of security flaws are just as bad, only difference is the installed base is less</p><p>Mozilla API's are open source, if you notice market place is usavle insite the game, can purchase things all day and all night</p>

[Dirty Jack Rackham]

<p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>No, given IE's history of security problems it's a very dangerous bet to be using IE. I have a simple policy: I use IE to connect to my employer's servers when VPN'd in to the corporate network, and to run Windows Update. All other Web usage is done with a safer browser.</p><p>And I'd note that your own in-game browser is based on Mozilla. I'd opine that it's probably not smart to make the Marketplace unusable from your own game's browser.</p></blockquote><p>Who cares. Get over it. You're off topic. Take it to off topic if you want to have a [Removed for Content] contest as to which browser better for whatever reason. So bloody sick and tired of this. It was old in the '90s. Use what browser makes you happy. Shut up about what other's choose to use.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Again review the Cert database for a enlighting event on those "other browsers" Thier history of security flaws are just as bad, only difference is the installed base is less</p></blockquote><p>The difference is the speed at which those issues are addressed and how many are active on current release.</p>

[Rijacki]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>No, given IE's history of security problems it's a very dangerous bet to be using IE. I have a simple policy: I use IE to connect to my employer's servers when VPN'd in to the corporate network, and to run Windows Update. All other Web usage is done with a safer browser.</p><p>And I'd note that your own in-game browser is based on Mozilla. I'd opine that it's probably not smart to make the Marketplace unusable from your own game's browser.</p></blockquote><p>Again review the Cert database for a enlighting event on those "other browsers" Thier history of security flaws are just as bad, only difference is the installed base is less</p><p>Mozilla API's are open source, if you notice market place is usavle insite the game, can purchase things all day and all night</p></blockquote><p>Since you are persisting in this off-topic-ness...</p><p>The difference is that when Firefox or Opera or Chrome or any other non-IE browser crashes, it doesn't take the entire computer with it because it isn't built in and made an 'intrigal' part of the OS, like MS did with IE. With a non-IE browser, it also doesn't have a direct route to the total and complete underlying code of the OS just the api which sits in a much higher layer. Applications -on- and OS are much more containable and limit the scope of how much damage they can do when they have an issue. Applications which are built into the core of the OS (like IE) can totally corrupt the OS to the point where a format and reinstall is the only solution, even data retrival using another means is not possible (and yes I do know of at least one such vulnerability in the past, it required 1 line on a web page).</p><p>Take a look at the vulnerabilties in the Cert DB. Look not only at the numbers but what the vulnerabilities actually are. Then, take a look to see how quickly the vulnerabilities are taken care of. There are some high severity vulnerabilities for IE which were (or are) unpatched for -years-. Not just at this moment but over time as well. There have even been issues directly reported to MS (with examples) where they have specifically stated they will do nothing about the issue and even carried the problem from one version of IE into 2 more later ones (yes, spanning years).</p><p>I, too, wish SOE would make the pages without using IE proprietary code and/or would make it possible to access from other browsers as well. The irony there, though, is that the in-game browser for EQ2 is based on Mozilla (though I wish they'd patch it, too).</p>

[Aule]

<p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've also had poor results trying to do any Station transactions using Firefox. If you are not using MSIE, try that.</p></blockquote><p>THIS.  It's a safe bet to make sure you're always using IE.</p></blockquote><p>SOE should really support more than just the single most targetted for attack browser out there.  Welcome to 2009, there's more than 1 browser here in the future.</p>

[ArivenGemini]

<p><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No... Safe because IE is guaranteed to be supported.  Everyone else is iffy.  All of our registration, purchasing whatever stuff runs on IE.</p><p>That's why.</p></blockquote><p>And yet the internal in game browser is based on the firefox engine.  Increasing support for firefox should be on the platform/web designers "soon" list just for that reason alone, but add in that 20%+ of people are using FireFox instead of IE for their normal browsing means that they are neglecting to support a -significant- percentage of their customer base by refusing to look beyond IE</p>

[Guy De Alsace]

<p>I got my one and only virus ever from a Firefox navigated webpage. If you keep up with the windows updates, IE is as secure as any other product on the market.</p><p>Getting back to the game. When I first used SC the security number wouldnt work - kept saying there was an error. Turned out every time I tried I actually put through another transaction. Luckily I only did it twice so bought two items instead of one.</p><p>Always close your browser and restart it if it doesnt work first time! </p>