Alcohol Tolerance

[Tabrina]

<p>Ok I didnt see this brought up in the forums already, if someone knows another topic on this please link it and I will just add my notes to it otherwise, thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I noticed on the new reward system that on one of them it requires max alcohol tolerance. You know, I dont mind doing this if it doesnt cost me plat but so far what I see it will cost plat to raise this level to max. If someone knows a way to do level alcohol tolerance for free please let me know <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I dont see a need for this ability in game so far so mine is of course not max for there is nothing it can be used on and is pretty useless in my opinion.</p><p>I figure I pay for this game once a month and for the past 4 years so I am stingy with my plat in game for one and also my real money when buying extra items for this game. I figure I have invested enough to be able to get rewards without paying for them now.</p><p>I dont pay for LON, I dont buy market place items, and I dont waste plat per say on titles I earned but it cost money to get(which I think is stupid also), this is just one example. I am not going to pay to raise my alcohol tolerance either for any rewards.</p><p>Titles- I figure I worked to earn them why am I having to pay for them?</p><p>Alcohol Tolerance- Not necessary in the game anyway to my knowledge why pay for leveling this?</p><p>Plat- I use this to upgrade 4 level 80 toons armor, spells etc I dont usually blow it on junkand even though Im on an exchange server I dont farm, I raid and I do not buy plat either</p><p>Basically if someone knows how to level this without paying for it then let me know otherwise I think its useless anyway either take it off the reward system as a requirement or make it free to level it.</p>

[Barx]

<p>Nothing is free, and the Achievements are pretty much entirely optional / fluff.</p><p>If you don't want to spend money leveling alcohol tolerance... then don't. Does that achievement even HAVE a reward?</p>

[Cele]

<p>Find someone who has a keg in their home/hall.  You can drink from it for free.  There are several versions out there, including one that gets you drunker if there are more people around/using it.</p><p>Also, find a provi to make you some Hair of the Dog drinks so you can sober up more quickly.</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>I have a provisioner I will check how much fuel it would take for this, that costs plat also btw</p><p>I have a keg in my house and was told that will not work I will try it though thanks.</p>

[Undorett]

<p>Leveled mine on live the other day because I saw this achievement on test.  I think it cost me about 35 gold and 30 minutes of time at the bar in EFP to go from about 150 to 400.</p>

[Sharakari]

<p><cite>Celena wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Find someone who has a keg in their home/hall.  You can drink from it for free.  There are several versions out there, including one that gets you drunker if there are more people around/using it.</p><p>Also, find a provi to make you some Hair of the Dog drinks so you can sober up more quickly.</p></blockquote><p>Really?  do you know what keg that is?  Maybe I'll start drinking before raids while the Guild Hall is full!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Tabrina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have a provisioner I will check how much fuel it would take for this, that costs plat also btw</p><p>I have a keg in my house and was told that will not work I will try it though thanks.</p></blockquote><p>The kegs used to. I know in the past you could get tolerance skill-ups as you sobered up. I do not know if they took that out, however.</p><p>One other thing is that you can get alcoholic drinks relatively cheap. I think the cheapest ones are 1s each -- even if it takes a lot of them, that's not too expensive (A 6g adept book would by 600). And if alcohol tolerance will be like the other skills that will skill up faster the farther away from the cap they are, it may take far fewer drinks to get to max than it does now on Live.</p>

[Alvane]

<p>Hair of the Dog is a low level recipe - doesn't cost much to make.</p><p>As for alcoholic tolerance - GM events also give them out for free for parties and my favorite " Suicide Leap" in Butcherblock Mts.... when u get drunk, run off a cliff like lemmings and try to hit the center of a huge round carpet and oh, yeah, u have to die - so no glide nor free fall or safe fall! heh!</p><p>gals of the 'hood</p><p>celestina, eldra, nelida, alvane and slizz - gourmet chef</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>We dont get GM events on my server its an exchange server. I wish <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> That sounds like fun sigh</p>

[Bremer]

Does this new faster skill up change also include alcohol tolerance if you skill is way under the level cap? And how do you raise the skill? In the moment you consume an alcoholic drink or randomly while the drink lasts?

[Tabrina]

<p>Keg- does not work</p><p>Hair of the dog- Is not working it just makes you faint along with your horse. Its funny as heck though. I got my provisioner to make some of it.</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>Bremer what I have noticed so far is the drinks at the bartender you can just keep right clicking constantly without waiting on them to run out but it takes tons of them to skill up from 5/400, that is my original complaint and Im still complaining</p>

[Cele]

<p><cite>Tabrina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Keg- does not work</p><p>Hair of the dog- Is not working it just makes you faint along with your horse. Its funny as heck though. I got my provisioner to make some of it.</p></blockquote><p>Just tried the keg in our guild hall.  it works fine.</p><p>hair of the dog makes you faint for a few minutes, then you are more sober when you "wake up":</p><p>Looks like I am gonna have to make a ton of hair of Dog drinks, LOL</p><p>edit cuz I cant spell or type</p>

[Cele]

<p>OK  just tried Snoogles Party keg and Brell's keg of everlasting.  Both got me Very Drunk immediately</p><p>Both are in our guild hall and neither belongs to me or any of my alts.  So, they should be working for folks.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Tabrina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I figure I pay for this game once a month and for the past 4 years so I am stingy with my plat in game for one and also my real money when buying extra items for this game. I figure I have invested enough to be able to get rewards without paying for them now. </blockquote><p>Wait... your using the "I pay my subscription fee, so I should get it too" thing to get your alcohol tolerance maxed?</p><p>Really?</p><p>Most people reserve that line for getting free raid loot or mythical updates.</p><p>Edit: fyi, skill increasers on live seem to be set at about 1 in 8 chance. This means you need 3,200 drinks in order to max out the skill, or 160 stacks of drinks.</p><p>The total cost of maxing this out need not be more than 50 gold.</p>

[Cele]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Edit: fyi, skill increasers on live seem to be set at about 1 in 8 chance. This means you need 3,200 drinks in order to max out the skill, or 160 stacks of drinks.</p><p>The total cost of maxing this out need not be more than 50 gold.</p></blockquote><p>The cost is zero if you use one of the kegs I mentioned above.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Celena wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Edit: fyi, skill increasers on live seem to be set at about 1 in 8 chance. This means you need 3,200 drinks in order to max out the skill, or 160 stacks of drinks.</p><p>The total cost of maxing this out need not be more than 50 gold.</p></blockquote><p>The cost is zero if you use one of the kegs I mentioned above.</p></blockquote><p>I used them first, and after 20 drinks did not get a single skillup. I got drunk, but no skill up.</p><p>May have been bad luck (and with a 1/8 ratio, that is very possible), but I would not be supprised if they removed all free methods of leveling this up.</p>

[Arbreth]

<p>This is one achievement I will not be trying to get, though my swimming is maxed (without the easy mode).  I don't drink in RL, and the effect is annoying at least, nauseating at most. </p><p>Personally, I feel this should NOT be an achievement seeing as for a game that won't let us wear a bikini, they advocate getting drunk? </p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Arbreth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Personally, I feel this should NOT be an achievement seeing as for a game that won't let us wear a bikini, they advocate getting drunk?  </blockquote><p>I think the better answer is to add a bikini set to the game.</p>

[GrunEQ]

<p><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Lol I have about 20 toons that all have homes open to visitors and they all have Snoggles and Brell kegs.  Not to mention some have punch bowls, whisky bottles, etc. that serve intoxicating beverges.  All you need to do is visit some homes and drink to your hearts content.  Might have a fun time of seeing other people's homes though they might be bit blurry. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></span></p>

[Lleren]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Arbreth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Personally, I feel this should NOT be an achievement seeing as for a game that won't let us wear a bikini, they advocate getting drunk?  </blockquote><p>I think the better answer is to add a bikini set to the game.</p></blockquote><p>My Ratonga Bruiser wants a speedo, or perhaps a loincloth an chaps!</p>

[Cele]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Celena wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Edit: fyi, skill increasers on live seem to be set at about 1 in 8 chance. This means you need 3,200 drinks in order to max out the skill, or 160 stacks of drinks.</p><p>The total cost of maxing this out need not be more than 50 gold.</p></blockquote><p>The cost is zero if you use one of the kegs I mentioned above.</p></blockquote><p>I used them first, and after 20 drinks did not get a single skillup. I got drunk, but no skill up.</p><p>May have been bad luck (and with a 1/8 ratio, that is very possible), but I would not be supprised if they removed all free methods of leveling this up.</p></blockquote><p>I used each keg twice, to test, and I am 99% positive I got one skill up.</p><p>DISCLAIMER though:  I was gabbing on phone and hollering at the cats to stop fighting, so I may be mistaken.</p>

[Noaani]

<p>I tested it from my own house as opposed to the guild hall, and Mama's Eggnog gives skill ups.</p><p>It may be that I didn't use the keg in the guild hall enough, it may be that you need to own the item to get a skill up, or it may be that the you need to drink an actual item to get the skill up (the keg just makes you drunk, no actual item).</p><p>I'm going with the last of the above.</p>

[Cele]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I tested it from my own house as opposed to the guild hall, and Mama's Eggnog gives skill ups.</p><p>It may be that I didn't use the keg in the guild hall enough, it may be that you need to own the item to get a skill up, or it may be that the you need to drink an actual item to get the skill up (the keg just makes you drunk, no actual item).</p><p>I'm going with the last of the above.</p></blockquote><p>O.ooo I forgot about the eggnog.  We have a couple bowls of that stuff siting in theh hall kitchen, right next to the ham.  Both should be rancid by now, LOL</p>

[Noaani]

<p>Spiced Eggnog is not alcoholic, so will not give skillups. Mama's Eggnog is.</p>

[Cele]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spiced Eggnog is not alcoholic, so will not give skillups. Mama's Eggnog is.</p></blockquote><p>Yup, thats the one next to the ham.  LOL  I think I am the only one who ever even goes in the kitchen area.  My provi slaves at the stove a lot.</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>Well you all are giving some great ideas I dont have time to test them today I have to raid but will tomorrow to see if these things work. Thanks so much for the posts <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Mystfit]

<p>Prior to the announcements of acheivements, my daughter went on a tear to raise all the skills she could to max. (apparently just because she could, NOT so much for the rewards, though she's thrilled now of course).</p><p>One day I walked into the tradeskill area and found her at a work bench with a big bowl of egg nog next to her on the floor...errr..Aure, what ya doing...getting drunk and working on tinkering she says. Now, THAT's insanity....</p>

[Barx]

<p>I think the issue with the kegs and such now is that you no longer gain tolerance skill ups as you sober up -- you only seem to gain them when taking a drink. A while ago (it seems to have been this way for a long time now) you used to gain skill ups as you sobered up, so the kegs were decent for getting your skill up.</p><p>Since they make you max-drunk, now it's only one chance at a skillup (when you get drunk initially) for each time you use it, whereas before you might get 5+ skill-ups as you sobered up from fully blasted to sober.</p>

[Oxie]

<p>I've noticed in the past, that if I zoned out of my house while I was drunk, I would get a skillup. Dunno if that works anymore though.</p><p>When they had big GM parties on Unrest, they had an NPC that was selling booze for like 1c...or was it 1s...each (BTW, the booze and "sober up" drinks were "no-zone". While everyone was in the special GM guild hall and socializing, I was standing by the NPC and getting my dr00nk on. I think I ended up going from 45 to 375 within 30 minutes and only for a few silver...or was it gold...either way, the "sober up" drinks didn't seem to work at off, and I had to let the haze fade with time.</p>

[Alvane]

<p>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</p><p>Don't think the drinking achievement will really enhance the game, but it could encourage drinking as being acceptable in other arenas.....</p><p>think about it SoE......</p><p>the gals of the 'hood who enjoy tequila every so often irl but not as a drinking game</p><p>celestina, alvane, eldra, slizz, nelida</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</p><p>Don't think the drinking achievement will really enhance the game, but it could encourage drinking as being acceptable in other arenas.....</p><p>think about it SoE......</p><p>the gals of the 'hood who enjoy tequila every so often irl but not as a drinking game</p><p>celestina, alvane, eldra, slizz, nelida</p></blockquote><p>Do you really think an achievement for getting your alcohol tolerance and swimming skills to max is going to make people go out and drink more?</p><p>Seriously, this world needs to stop being so PC. Let your kids fall on their head a couple times and stop mollycoddling them, let them play in the dirt.</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>I did find that Brell's Everlasting brew seems to be leveling me up in alcohol tolerance, the keg is located in our guild hall. It seems to be leveling really slow though I have only gone from 5/400 to 13/400 so far so its annoying to say the least.</p><p>I just still feel this is useless anyway and I dont see why we will have to bother with this at all to get rewards through this new system being implemented.</p>

[Xdatinelia]

<p>The only thing I can see is if they every impliment traps a la LDoN from EQ1.  When that happened, suddenly the folks that had max skill faired far better than those with out.  The traps were evil and made you dead drunk on a dungeon crawl.</p>

[Cele]

<p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</p><p>Don't think the drinking achievement will really enhance the game, but it could encourage drinking as being acceptable in other arenas..... </p><p>think about it SoE......</p></blockquote><p>Seriously?  Drinking, and rewards for it have been around a while.  Ever done a Brell day quest? Specifically the one where you get the guy drunk enough to give you info but not so drunk that he pukes?  Or where YOU get drunk and find pink elephants, flying pigs, etc?</p><p>It's a game centered around violence.  have you gone out and beat someone senseless IRL just because you have done it in game??</p><p>Hell, I grew up in the 70's, watching the poor Coyote get whacked by the Road Runner  (or his own stoopidness) a bazillion times. It didnt hurt me a bit.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</blockquote><p>I have this strange craving for Shark fin Soup.</p>

[Sarriss]

<p>I've alwayse what deep fried bat wings taste like (Bat Wing Crunchies anyone?)</p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</p><p>Don't think the drinking achievement will really enhance the game, but it could encourage drinking as being acceptable in other arenas.....</p><p>think about it SoE......</p><p>the gals of the 'hood who enjoy tequila every so often irl but not as a drinking game</p><p>celestina, alvane, eldra, slizz, nelida</p></blockquote><p>But slaughtering countless sentient beings is ok?  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>BTW, our ESRB rating does take into consideration that there are alcohol references in the game.</p>

[Sarriss]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</p><p>Don't think the drinking achievement will really enhance the game, but it could encourage drinking as being acceptable in other arenas.....</p><p>think about it SoE......</p><p>the gals of the 'hood who enjoy tequila every so often irl but not as a drinking game</p><p>celestina, alvane, eldra, slizz, nelida</p></blockquote><p>But slaughtering countless sentient beings is ok?  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>BTW, our ESRB rating does take into consideration that there are alcohol references in the game.</p></blockquote><p>he's right it's on the ESRN content rating, on all the boxes for EQ (least up to Omens od War)and EQ2 actually; Teen</p><p>Suggestive themes (tho for some reason not as suggestive as EQ1's they had bikini's there<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />)</p><p>Use of Alcohol (tho it's not as usefull here, no str boost like EQ1)</p><p>Violence (yea, we got that in spades <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />)</p>

[ashen1973]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>some Politically Correct nonsense</p></blockquote><p>But slaughtering countless sentient beings is ok?  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>BTW, our ESRB rating does take into consideration that there are alcohol references in the game.</p></blockquote><p>QFE^^</p><p>Some people really need to pull their heads out of their Politically Correct backsides <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>To the OP</p><p>I levelled this skill up on two of my chars yesterday, one was at 5/400 and one was at 30/400.</p><p>I got both toons to 400/400 in around 15 minutes. I spent very little coin (around 4g for both chars) and could have done it completely for free if I wanted to put slightly more effort and time into it (and only very slightly more)</p><p>The only skill,that I can remember, that was easier and faster to raise was Aggression when they introduced it.</p>

[Leiv]

<p><cite>Tabrina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Alcohol Tolerance- Not necessary in the game anyway to my knowledge why pay for leveling this?</p></blockquote><p>Oh come on. This is a core skill for a roleplaying dwarf.</p>

[Lillaanya]

<p>/wants a bikini</p>

[Mythal_EQ2]

<p>I want achievements for Common Sense and Intelligence... Those would be rare achiemenets indeed.</p>

[Dellmon]

<p><cite>Tabrina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If someone knows a way to do level alcohol tolerance for free please let me know <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Dwarves have a racial ability today to summon a Tumpy's Tonic.  Currently I am getting on average two-ish skilups per stack of twenty.  So far I have gone from 0 to 100 this way.  I am hoping to finish my way to 400 before we lose this ability.</p><p>While not available to everyone - it can be done for free by some players.</p>

[Undorett]

<p>IMO there should be a reward for max fishing + max alcohol tolerance, because lets face it, thats RL right there.</p>

[ashen1973]

<p><cite>Undorett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IMO there should be a reward for max fishing + max alcohol tolerance, because lets face it, thats RL right there.</p></blockquote><p>This^^^^  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>also, there are several ways to get alcoholic drinks for free, the eggnog from one of the Christmas recipes will give you skill-ups.</p><p>My personal method, I bought bags full of the 1s drink from our Guild-hall bartender (these are also available from bartender NPC's in the city's, called Antonican something-or-other)</p><p>open your bags, mouse-over one of the stacks of drink, hold down your right-mouse button and spam-click the left-button as fast as you can, watch the skill-ups fly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>To lose the drunk effect, just dual a friend and die (you dont get item damage when dueling).</p><p>im pretty sure I had some drinks that cure drunkeness in the past, but can't remember what they are now.</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p>Hair of the dog <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[ashen1973]

<p><cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hair of the dog <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I thought it was these, but tried them, they knock you over (very funny if you are on a mount <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) but don't seem to be cureing the drunk effect</p>

[revren]

<p>/feedback I want tolkian pipe-weed that does the same effects as drinking , as a fae i belive it would help with my RP ability</p>

[TheGeneral]

<p>Can we have a reward for slaying the x4 PC beast?  I would raid that every day.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Sarriss@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Suggestive themes (tho for some reason not as suggestive as EQ1's they had bikini's there<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />)</p><p>Use of Alcohol (tho it's not as usefull here, no str boost like EQ1)</p><p>Violence (yea, we got that in spades <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />)</p></blockquote><p>You know, even if you drank in EQlive for a small strength boost, you actually lost Attack power from the first drink, so the Strength didn't even help other than for carrying more stuff.</p><p>On the other hand though, at least we don't have that stupid swagger like EQlive gave us (though I recently experienced a Drunk effect sometime in the last 2 months that forced you to swagger back and forth. I forget what it was though.)</p>

[Fendaria]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>But slaughtering countless sentient beings is ok?  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>BTW, our ESRB rating does take into consideration that there are alcohol references in the game.</p></blockquote><p>Sheila Broflovski:  Remember what the MPAA says; Horrific, Deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty woids!</p><p>Fendaria</p>

[revren]

<p><cite>Fendaria wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>But slaughtering countless sentient beings is ok?  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>BTW, our ESRB rating does take into consideration that there are alcohol references in the game.</p></blockquote><p>Sheila Broflovski:  Remember what the MPAA says; Horrific, Deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty woids!</p><p>Fendaria</p></blockquote><p>Or Sex</p>

[Xadius]

<p>There's a theory out that says the higher your alcohol tolerance the more likely you are to just get knocked out as opposed to dying during a fight. I don't know if this is true but I can tell you since I maxed out my alcohol tolerance I've noticed many times that I'm knocked unconscious instead of dying which allows my healers to keep me up. My evidence is anecdotal at best but if it's something that might possibly be helping me survive then why not go ahead and get the skills up there. The more advantages you have the better right?</p>

[Banbha]

<p>It was funny in EQ1 when you got drunk, no one could understand what you were saying until you sobered up (unless you were /OOC). I wish that would carry over to EQ2.</p>

[Alvane]

<p><cite>Xadius@Nektulos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There's a theory out that says the higher your alcohol tolerance the more likely you are to just get knocked out as opposed to dying during a fight. I don't know if this is true but I can tell you since I maxed out my alcohol tolerance I've noticed many times that I'm knocked unconscious instead of dying which allows my healers to keep me up. My evidence is anecdotal at best but if it's something that might possibly be helping me survive then why not go ahead and get the skills up there. The more advantages you have the better right?</p></blockquote><p>There are several buffs that extend your unconscious state, either a direct buff or one through AAs. Then there are the DIs. So ur healers are prolly using those more often.</p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Undorett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IMO there should be a reward for max fishing + max alcohol tolerance, because lets face it, thats RL right there.</p></blockquote><p>This^^^^  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p><p>also, there are several ways to get alcoholic drinks for free, the eggnog from one of the Christmas recipes will give you skill-ups.</p><p>My personal method, I bought bags full of the 1s drink from our Guild-hall bartender (these are also available from bartender NPC's in the city's, called Antonican something-or-other)</p><p>open your bags, mouse-over one of the stacks of drink, hold down your right-mouse button and spam-click the left-button as fast as you can, watch the skill-ups fly <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>To lose the drunk effect, just dual a friend and die (you dont get item damage when dueling).</p><p>im pretty sure I had some drinks that cure drunkeness in the past, but can't remember what they are now.</p></blockquote><p>I sincerely hope they decide against making this a necessary skill up. I tried your method and I did not find the "skill-ups fly". It took at least 2 or 3 hours and over 2,000 drinks. They've gone for nearly 6 years without making this a necessary skill up. And while it may be fun for a time or two, as in real life a drunk is a drunk is a drunk and is obnoxious and boring as is the methods needed to skill up. I found the in house stuff even slower, which prompted me to try the bartender as suggested. While I personally, think this should be an adult game, Sony has decided not to put a minimum age limit on it and parents don't mind if their kids play. So in keeping that in mind, I don't think this should become a necessary skill up.</p>

[Korrupt]

<p>Playing the RL thread is one helluva stretch lol. This is not a NECESSARY skill up, just dont do it if you dont want. I'm sure there's planty of content you haven't done, why would 1 more thing make any difference.</p>

[Cadaveria]

<p>DPS and Spell Damage increased with max alchohol tolerance. Little known easter egg.</p>

[ashen1973]

<p><cite>d1anaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Undorett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IMO there should be a reward for max fishing + max alcohol tolerance, because lets face it, thats RL right there.</p></blockquote><p>This^^^^  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p><p>also, there are several ways to get alcoholic drinks for free, the eggnog from one of the Christmas recipes will give you skill-ups.</p><p>My personal method, I bought bags full of the 1s drink from our Guild-hall bartender (these are also available from bartender NPC's in the city's, called Antonican something-or-other)</p><p>open your bags, mouse-over one of the stacks of drink, hold down your right-mouse button and spam-click the left-button as fast as you can, watch the skill-ups fly <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>To lose the drunk effect, just dual a friend and die (you dont get item damage when dueling).</p><p>im pretty sure I had some drinks that cure drunkeness in the past, but can't remember what they are now.</p></blockquote><p>I sincerely hope they decide against making this a necessary skill up. I tried your method and I did not find the "skill-ups fly". It took at least 2 or 3 hours and over 2,000 drinks. They've gone for nearly 6 years without making this a necessary skill up. And while it may be fun for a time or two, as in real life a drunk is a drunk is a drunk and is obnoxious and boring as is the methods needed to skill up. I found the in house stuff even slower, which prompted me to try the bartender as suggested. While I personally, think this should be an adult game, Sony has decided not to put a minimum age limit on it and parents don't mind if their kids play. So in keeping that in mind, I don't think this should become a necessary skill up.</p></blockquote><p>First , to address the time it has taken you to max the tolerance. I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I have raised 3 chars to 400/400 and one to 350/350 so far, and none have taken me more than 10 to 15 minutes to level.</p><p>Now to get to the rest of it</p><p>You don't have to raise this skill, its just for an achievement, if you don't want the achievement, dont raise the skill.</p><p>If you can't be bothered to raise the skill, then you don't get the achievement.</p><p>A few people have posted here about how bad it is to encourage drinking. Not one has had the front to reply when it's pointed out that they seem to have no problem with going out slaying sentient creatures and animals in hand-to-hand struggles or cutting them to pieces with swords, mashing their heads with hammers etc....</p><p>Just how messed up must a person be to believe its fine to encourage splitting someones head open with an axe, but outrageous to have a few beers?</p><p>My own belief, as someone that has watched Tv (and we all know just how violent the likes of roadrunner, tom and jerry etc.. are) for 36 years, has played computer games (the vast majority of which revolve around killing something) for 25 and allows my own young daughters to watch tv and play computer games, is that people are not as influenced by what happens on screen as the PC brigade will have us believe.</p><p>Anyone that wants to go out and do something just because they saw it on Tv or in a game must already have some serious issues. If that person is a child, then the issue most probably lies with the parents not supervising them closely enough or teaching them the rights and wrongs of life. (using TV/computers as the one-eyed babysitter FTL :/ )</p><p>So, next time someone feels like posting some P.C crap about drinking ingame, don't bother, i'm not reading it, im sitting in a drunken heap in the corner (oh..wait.. no im not, im just drinking in a game, in real-life im just like most people and take responsibility for my own actions, not blame them on the things I saw on a screen)</p>

[SirDinadan]

<p><cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A few people have posted here about how bad it is to encourage drinking. Not one has had the front to reply when it's pointed out that they seem to have no problem with going out slaying sentient creatures and animals in hand-to-hand struggles or cutting them to pieces with swords, mashing their heads with hammers etc....</p></blockquote><p>Well, Rothgar said it, in just about those exact same words.  It's not a matter of 'front', rather I didn't see a need to simply repeat what had been said. </p>

[Alvane]

<p><cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You don't have to raise this skill, its just for an achievement, if you don't want the achievement, dont raise the skill.</p><p>If you can't be bothered to raise the skill, then you don't get the achievement.</p><p>A few people have posted here about how bad it is to encourage drinking.</p><p>So, next time someone feels like posting some P.C crap about drinking ingame, don't bother, i'm not reading it, im sitting in a drunken heap in the corner (oh..wait.. no im not, im just drinking in a game, in real-life im just like most people and take responsibility for my own actions, not blame them on the things I saw on a screen)</p></blockquote><p>Life is all about choices.... some good... some negative......some very detrimental....</p><p>Ur game life is all about choices.....some good.....some negative ..... some very detrimental.....<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>good adventures to you</p><p>the gals of the 'hood</p><p>slizz, alvane, eldra, celestina, nelida, baby ultani</p>

[Nakaru-Nitepaw]

<p>I leveled my AT to 400 a few months ago downing a bunch of eggnog from the house item that comes from frostfell. I stock up several bags full of the stuff, and just hose them down my ratonga's gullet till shes drunker then a rat. o.o</p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>Gooberguts@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>DPS and Spell Damage increased with max alchohol tolerance. Little known easter egg.</p></blockquote><p>Is that true? I certainly did not know that. Maybe I should pay more attention to the "do you know" flags on the screen.</p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>Eldra@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Nothing like a very responsible company like SoE to promote drinking with rewards for doing so...... wonder how many will translate that to rl?</p><p>Don't think the drinking achievement will really enhance the game, but it could encourage drinking as being acceptable in other arenas.....</p><p>think about it SoE......</p><p>the gals of the 'hood who enjoy tequila every so often irl but not as a drinking game</p><p>celestina, alvane, eldra, slizz, nelida</p></blockquote><p>I would not say that drinking in a game would "cause" somene to decide to drink IRL in and of itself. But since Sony has decided not to impose a minimum level on players, it isn't in their best interest to encourage being drunk as an admirable skill level. I have no issue with the kegs and the celebrations. But do think when making it a targeted skill level, it is pushing the envelope in a multi aged game. Personally, I wouldn't have a child playing this game anyway, just because I believe the content is too mature. But since those who own the game have chosen not to limit it, they need to be cognizant of the implications.</p>

[d1anaw]

<p><cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>d1anaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kalyyn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Undorett wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IMO there should be a reward for max fishing + max alcohol tolerance, because lets face it, thats RL right there.</p></blockquote><p>This^^^^  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p><p>also, there are several ways to get alcoholic drinks for free, the eggnog from one of the Christmas recipes will give you skill-ups.</p><p>My personal method, I bought bags full of the 1s drink from our Guild-hall bartender (these are also available from bartender NPC's in the city's, called Antonican something-or-other)</p><p>open your bags, mouse-over one of the stacks of drink, hold down your right-mouse button and spam-click the left-button as fast as you can, watch the skill-ups fly <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>To lose the drunk effect, just dual a friend and die (you dont get item damage when dueling).</p><p>im pretty sure I had some drinks that cure drunkeness in the past, but can't remember what they are now.</p></blockquote><p>I sincerely hope they decide against making this a necessary skill up. I tried your method and I did not find the "skill-ups fly". It took at least 2 or 3 hours and over 2,000 drinks. They've gone for nearly 6 years without making this a necessary skill up. And while it may be fun for a time or two, as in real life a drunk is a drunk is a drunk and is obnoxious and boring as is the methods needed to skill up. I found the in house stuff even slower, which prompted me to try the bartender as suggested. While I personally, think this should be an adult game, Sony has decided not to put a minimum age limit on it and parents don't mind if their kids play. So in keeping that in mind, I don't think this should become a necessary skill up.</p></blockquote><p>First , to address the time it has taken you to max the tolerance. I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I have raised 3 chars to 400/400 and one to 350/350 so far, and none have taken me more than 10 to 15 minutes to level.</p><p>Now to get to the rest of it</p><p>You don't have to raise this skill, its just for an achievement, if you don't want the achievement, dont raise the skill.</p><p>If you can't be bothered to raise the skill, then you don't get the achievement.</p><p>A few people have posted here about how bad it is to encourage drinking. Not one has had the front to reply when it's pointed out that they seem to have no problem with going out slaying sentient creatures and animals in hand-to-hand struggles or cutting them to pieces with swords, mashing their heads with hammers etc....</p><p>Just how messed up must a person be to believe its fine to encourage splitting someones head open with an axe, but outrageous to have a few beers?</p><p>My own belief, as someone that has watched Tv (and we all know just how violent the likes of roadrunner, tom and jerry etc.. are) for 36 years, has played computer games (the vast majority of which revolve around killing something) for 25 and allows my own young daughters to watch tv and play computer games, is that people are not as influenced by what happens on screen as the PC brigade will have us believe.</p><p>Anyone that wants to go out and do something just because they saw it on Tv or in a game must already have some serious issues. If that person is a child, then the issue most probably lies with the parents not supervising them closely enough or teaching them the rights and wrongs of life. (using TV/computers as the one-eyed babysitter FTL :/ )</p><p>So, next time someone feels like posting some P.C crap about drinking ingame, don't bother, i'm not reading it, im sitting in a drunken heap in the corner (oh..wait.. no im not, im just drinking in a game, in real-life im just like most people and take responsibility for my own actions, not blame them on the things I saw on a screen)</p></blockquote><p>Well let me just go cry in my beer because you don't want to read what I write. Nothing like a little self importance, is there. Boo hoo.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Xsara@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It was funny in EQ1 when you got drunk, no one could understand what you were saying until you sobered up (unless you were /OOC). I wish that would carry over to EQ2.</p></blockquote><p>The Drunk Filter applied to all forms of chat. /OOC too.</p>

[Ldarax]

<p>In eq1 they added enconters that will make you intoxicated if your alcohol tolerance skill isnt high enough.</p>