Test Copy Not working

[Maroger]

<p>I have put in for testcopy over 48 hours ago and still my characters have not been copied. What is the problem and when can I expect it to be fixed.</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have put in for testcopy over 48 hours ago and still my characters have not been copied. What is the problem and when can I expect it to be fixed.</p></blockquote><p>Have you tried making a new toon on the test copy server? Sometimes copied characters do not show up until you make a new character and it 'refreshes' the characters you have available.</p>

[Silerua]

<p>Out of curiosity, is the test copy copying thingie automated, or does someone have to do it?  I was pondering the idea of if it were possible to re-test copy Aure to update my achievement dings and check on awards and such...  But if someone has to sit there and manually do it behind the scenes, then I have no interest in bugging them.  If it's automated, though...</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, is the test copy copying thingie automated, or does someone have to do it?  I was pondering the idea of if it were possible to re-test copy Aure to update my achievement dings and check on awards and such...  But if someone has to sit there and manually do it behind the scenes, then I have no interest in bugging them.  If it's automated, though...</p></blockquote><p>From what they've said, it seems to be a nightly automatic script.</p>

[Wikfizb]

<p>I put in a testcopy add request (only about 24 hours ago in my case tho), but my concern is I realized that...</p><p>1) I already had 7 characters on test (so I deleted one last night)</p><p>2) one of my test  characters has the same name</p><p>So...</p><p>If you do a test copy add and you are already at the limit, does it autoreject it (should I re-do it now that I've deleted one).  Will there be any conflict since I already have a character of the same name there, or will it rename it something like WikfizbikX (I think thats how name conflicts work with server merges), or will it be a non-issue since copied characters goto a separate test server?</p>

[Silerua]

<p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>From what they've said, it seems to be a nightly automatic script.</p></blockquote><p>Ooh I hope so...  *crosses fingers*  And would I delete the Aurelis currently on test copy or would it just override her... or add like, Aurelisx or something?  You answer so many questions for me, sorry *lol*  I totally understand if you get tired and ignore me d:</p>

[Vraeth]

<p><cite>Wikfizbik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I put in a testcopy add request (only about 24 hours ago in my case tho), but my concern is I realized that...</p><p>1) I already had 7 characters on test (so I deleted one last night)</p><p>2) one of my test  characters has the same name</p><p>So...</p><p>If you do a test copy add and you are already at the limit, does it autoreject it (should I re-do it now that I've deleted one).  Will there be any conflict since I already have a character of the same name there, or will it rename it something like WikfizbikX (I think thats how name conflicts work with server merges), or will it be a non-issue since copied characters goto a separate test server?</p></blockquote><p>i think your toon will be copied, with an X added to the name, and you wont be able to access your oldest toon until you delet one</p>

[Barx]

<p>If you're at the cap, your copied toon would just not show up until you delete an old one.</p><p>Copied toons that would have the same name get an x on the end.</p><p>On test copy, I have...</p><p>BarxBarxxBarxxxBarxxxx</p><p><img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Silerua]

<p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Copied toons that would have the same name get an x on the end.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks Barx  *hug*  You rock!</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Aurelis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Copied toons that would have the same name get an x on the end.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks Barx  *hug*  You rock!</p></blockquote><p>Hehe, you're welcome =)</p><p>Some of my old guildies (before I moved my main into a raid guild) used to call me "the answerman," I just can't stand leaving folks looking for answers when I know (or at least can try to help with) the answer, hehe.</p>

[Maroger]

<p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have put in for testcopy over 48 hours ago and still my characters have not been copied. What is the problem and when can I expect it to be fixed.</p></blockquote><p>Have you tried making a new toon on the test copy server? Sometimes copied characters do not show up until you make a new character and it 'refreshes' the characters you have available.</p></blockquote><p>Alreayd had toons on test copy.</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have put in for testcopy over 48 hours ago and still my characters have not been copied. What is the problem and when can I expect it to be fixed.</p></blockquote><p>Have you tried making a new toon on the test copy server? Sometimes copied characters do not show up until you make a new character and it 'refreshes' the characters you have available.</p></blockquote><p>Alreayd had toons on test copy.</p></blockquote><p>Doesnt matter, sometimes you have to make a new one <strong><em>after</em></strong><em><strong> </strong></em>the test copy script runs in order for the copied character to show up.</p><p>It doesn't happen all the time, but almost everyone that I've seen with this issue has had their toon appear after making a new character. (Which you can then delete).</p>

[Purrcey]

<p>Unless something has changed it can take 1-5 days for your /testcopy toon to show up. In the past there was an automated script that ran but cycled thru different servers on different nights. According to when you enetered the command and when your server was set for copy it could be up to 5 days.</p><p>Has been this way since EQ2 went live and every beta since.</p>

[Maroger]

<p><cite>PurrceyPurespirit007 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unless something has changed it can take 1-5 days for your /testcopy toon to show up. In the past there was an automated script that ran but cycled thru different servers on different nights. According to when you enetered the command and when your server was set for copy it could be up to 5 days.</p><p>Has been this way since EQ2 went live and every beta since.</p></blockquote><p>I have never had it take longer than 24 hours.</p>

[Excalibur1]

<p>Any particular reason for it transferring a copy of my toon that is 3 months old?</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Excalibur119 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Any particular reason for it transferring a copy of my toon that is 3 months old?</p></blockquote><p>Are you absolutely sure you didn't do a /testcopy add 3 months ago?</p>

[Excalibur1]

<p>I haven't testcopy added since before KT was added and I thought they wiped the testcopy server after each GU goes through.</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Excalibur119 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I haven't testcopy added since before KT was added and I thought they wiped the testcopy server after each GU goes through.</p></blockquote><p>No.</p><p>They very rarely wipe the TestCopy server. When they do, they announce it as well.</p>

[azraelteir]

<p>Ok, I have had a test copy request in since Thursday night before the patch.  I have other toons on test copy already, even created a new toon to see if it would release something, nothing.  I have resubmitted my copy request and again nothing.  The toons I have on test now are old copies and I would prefer to be able to test with a current copy (Max AA and better gear).  Has anyone seen any official word on this yet?</p>

[Morrias]

<p><cite>PurrceyPurespirit007 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Unless something has changed it can take 1-5 days for your /testcopy toon to show up. In the past there was an automated script that ran but cycled thru different servers on different nights. According to when you enetered the command and when your server was set for copy it could be up to 5 days.</p><p>Has been this way since EQ2 went live and every beta since.</p></blockquote><p>Usualy it doesnt take me more than a day for me however I tried to copy 6 almost 7 days ago and still.. nothing. (I tried making a new character and all that fun stuff)</p><p>I made the mistake of deleting my old copy too.. lol.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Morghus]

<p>Yea, I wonder what could be holding it up?</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>Is the buffer at least up today?  I've been to all the "usual" haunts for him to appear - SS docks, EF docks, I even ran my little level 1 to Moors docks just in case and haven't found him.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Morrias]

<p><cite>Aeviel@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is the buffer at least up today?  I've been to all the "usual" haunts for him to appear - SS docks, EF docks, I even ran my little level 1 to Moors docks just in case and haven't found him.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>DLW at hates envy, think I saw him in Ant by NQ gates, wasnt really paying attention though.. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Anestacia]

<p>I /testcopy add(ed) 5 days ago and still have not been transfered <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Lenne]

<p>I testcopied a week ago and I've yet to see my character appear there.</p>

[HBP]

<p>My test copy requests have been well over 2 days now and still not showing either.  But the buffers are up at least.  They are located just outside the NQ zone-in in Antonica and outside the WFP zone-in in Commonlands.</p>

[Xdatinelia]

<p>So very glad I am not the only one, now I don't feel so crazy at least.</p><p>Edit to add: I wonder if they aren't doing it because of the achievments?</p>

[tojejedno]

<p>Waiting on testcopy too, from thursday and Nagafen</p>

[Rothgar]

<p>We'll have someone look into the testcopy script tomorrow.</p>

[azraelteir]

<p>Thank you much!</p>

[Zoltaroth]

<p>Found an issue that caused test copy to not run since mid-last-week.  It should be fixed by tomorrows copy run.  If you do /testcopy tonight it should copy you over by tomorrow.  I will also see about doing a 1-off copy at some point today to try to get the people that were missed in the last 5 days.</p>

[azraelteir]

<p>WOOT!  Thanks!</p>

[madha]

<p>Has the fix happened yet non of the toons i copied over have arived yet.  been like 4 days.</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>Half of the ones (6 total) I copied over last Wednesday showed up today.  The other half I'm just going to do another /testcopy and see what happens.</p>

[Ahlana]

<p>Still having no luck here. I "/testcopy remove" my main character yesterday and then re-added him last night, but still not there this morning. Ahh well</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>Looking at who has been copied makes me think a little more on it.  Only my 3 PvE characters have been copied.  My other 3 PvP characters have not been copied as of yet.  Perhaps our PvP flag is preventing something.</p>

[Katz]

<p>My PvE characters haven't been copied over yet either, so I don't think its PvP character specific.</p>

[Vraeth]

<p>neither the 2 of mine are there yet..</p>

[Barx]

<p>Zoltaroth said it should be fixed by today's copy run. Which would be tonight.</p><p>They may have only been able to manually do it for some servers. Wait until tomorrow and see if everything's been copied by then.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>Did a testcopy last week and again yesterday. Do I need to send the testcopy command again today as it is still not there?</p><p>Is there a set schedule for this script so we know it starts at like 3pm PST and will run until all are done so send requests by 3pm or its going to be after 3pm the following day when it goes, etc.</p><p>Many thanks!</p>

[Eveningsong]

<p>It used to run around 3am PST from what I recall.  If you don't have a character already on the testcopy server you may need to create one using the character create process to "open" up your testcopy character list the first time.  Also, if there's a ton of people copying to test stuff, it may be like beta where the queue doesn't always make it through the whole list in one night's run.</p>

[Katz]

<p>Mine made it over today.....but not their houses.</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Homeless toons.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Katz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Mine made it over today.....but not their houses.</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Homeless toons.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Houses they seem to copy at a different time. In my experience they've always shown up within a couple of days, that's kind of an existing issue or limitation of their copy script.</p>

[Cope]

<p>WTB /testcopy, had mine in since last thursday and still nothin.  Maybe i'll get to see the results for this weeks days off : (</p>

[Vraeth]

<p>/poke devs</p><p>still nuthin <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Rothgar]

<p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p>

[madha]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p></blockquote><p>all my alts are in my alt guild and tehy are all leaders, i though tat least 1 of them would bring the guild over witht them to test?.. do i need to demote all but 1 and copy 1 toon?</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p></blockquote><p>all my alts are in my alt guild and tehy are all leaders, i though tat least 1 of them would bring the guild over witht them to test?.. do i need to demote all but 1 and copy 1 toon?</p></blockquote><p>Last I checked, guilds do NOT get copied over to Test Copy regardless of whether or not the character is a leader.</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>Sorry Im confused. Why is it that my toons are going to a PVP test server when I am on a PVE server? I dont mind someone trying to attack my 80 brigand if they want(which would probably be stupid on their part) but really I dont like PVP at all.</p><p>I loaded test and I had an old copy of my level 80 brigand already on this pvp test server that I didnt even know was there I guess I copied a long time ago or something, so I did the command to remove her to add her new form and also my main but they have not shown up. Im not complaining yet as Rothgar said wait till the end of today for that. I was mostly curious for now why Im on PVP?</p>

[Vraeth]

<p>gu53 has a couple updates for pvp server as well and they turned pvp on for test_copy for a while</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Vraeth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>gu53 has a couple updates for pvp server as well and they turned pvp on for test_copy for a while</p></blockquote><p>Yep. And Test_Copy was originally... Test_PVP! They needed to test some PVP things so they turned PVP back on. Test_Copy is a server they used for <em>whatever</em> they want to test. If you want a purely PVE testing environment... you'll have to level a character on the actual Test server.</p><p>It's all the same server. The fact they allow you to <em>copy</em> your character to the Test_Copy (aka Test_PVP) server is to help them in testing things. Well now they're testing some PVP stuff.</p>

[madha]

<p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p></blockquote><p>all my alts are in my alt guild and tehy are all leaders, i though tat least 1 of them would bring the guild over witht them to test?.. do i need to demote all but 1 and copy 1 toon?</p></blockquote><p>Last I checked, guilds do NOT get copied over to Test Copy regardless of whether or not the character is a leader.</p></blockquote><p>There has to be a way i doubt peopel spent the tiem to grind guild lvl on test copy for a t3 guild hall.</p>

[Vraeth]

<p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p></blockquote><p>all my alts are in my alt guild and tehy are all leaders, i though tat least 1 of them would bring the guild over witht them to test?.. do i need to demote all but 1 and copy 1 toon?</p></blockquote><p>Last I checked, guilds do NOT get copied over to Test Copy regardless of whether or not the character is a leader.</p></blockquote><p>There has to be a way i doubt peopel spent the tiem to grind guild lvl on test copy for a t3 guild hall.</p></blockquote><p>it also takes time for your guild to show up, but yes, they DO copy over with the leader</p>

[Barx]

<p>Ah, I stand corrected then. I never bothered to try and copy over my alt guild, hehe.</p>

[Vraeth]

<p>its just the guild halls that dont copy</p>

[Cope]

<p>Kind of rediculous that you couldnt manage to get the ppl copied over that put the request in over a week ago, thanks for another great fix.  You guys never fail to deliver on a gigantic let down.  I guess if I want test copied I should submit a request every day and hope I'm one of the lucky ones picked because apparently it makes no difference when you get it into the system.  Grats on sucking.</p>

[Barx]

<p><cite>Cope wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Kind of rediculous that you couldnt manage to get the ppl copied over that put the request in over a week ago, thanks for another great fix.  You guys never fail to deliver on a gigantic let down.  I guess if I want test copied I should submit a request every day and hope I'm one of the lucky ones picked because apparently it makes no difference when you get it into the system.  Grats on sucking.</p></blockquote><p>I'm guessing you're not the kind of person that would give them very useful feedback... given that you're complaining that because you didn't get copied it's a gigantic let down and that they suck. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Do /testcopy add again. Make sure it confirms the request -- if you haven't seen the confirmation then you likely typed the wrong command.</p>

[Sharakari]

<p><cite>Cope wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Kind of rediculous that you couldnt manage to get the ppl copied over that put the request in over a week ago, thanks for another great fix.  You guys never fail to deliver on a gigantic let down.  I guess if I want test copied I should submit a request every day and hope I'm one of the lucky ones picked because apparently it makes no difference when you get it into the system.  Grats on sucking.</p></blockquote><p>Here's some cheese to go with that whine.</p>

[Svetty]

<p><cite>Tabrina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Sorry Im confused. Why is it that my toons are going to a PVP test server when I am on a PVE server? I dont mind someone trying to attack my 80 brigand if they want(which would probably be stupid on their part) but really I dont like PVP at all.</p><p>I loaded test and I had an old copy of my level 80 brigand already on this pvp test server that I didnt even know was there I guess I copied a long time ago or something, so I did the command to remove her to add her new form and also my main but they have not shown up. Im not complaining yet as Rothgar said wait till the end of today for that. I was mostly curious for now why Im on PVP?</p></blockquote><p>It does not matter what type of server you are copying from.  Test_copy initially was Test_pvp and when they need to test pvp updates they start pvp on test_copy again.  Right now there are many pvp changes going in with GU53 so they are turning pvp on. </p><p>If you do not want to be on a test server that may be pvp enabled at any point in time then you need to start a character on the test server and not copy over. </p><p>PVP changes need to be tested just as much as the PVE changes do!  People complaining that test_copy goes pvp sometimes need to remember that fact.</p>

[azraelteir]

<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >I think the only complaint I have is that by flipping the PVP switch and not letting it be known in some way, you are just openly inviting some PVP players to go on an open killing spree on anyone who is not a PVP player and that is far from a true test of PVP.  If the Development team had announced it was going to become PVP enabled for a while, people might have complained anyway, but at least they would have known in advance and could have stayed away till the switch was flipped back to PVE.  Some people just do not like PVP, myself included, and as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles then I could care less if they flip the switch from time to time as they feel the need.  </span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"></span> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span >I just think for it to be a true test of the PVP changes you need PVP players who are going go fight and fight back, not just PVP players killing unsuspecting PVE players, honestly thats not PVP nor is it a true test of PVP.  Just like I dont think a true or fair test of PVE can be accomplished on a PVP enabled server, I wouldn't be able to check new quests or features as well if I feel I have to watch my back at all times because a PVP player might walk up and kill me</span></span></div>

[madha]

<p><cite>Vraeth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p></blockquote><p>all my alts are in my alt guild and tehy are all leaders, i though tat least 1 of them would bring the guild over witht them to test?.. do i need to demote all but 1 and copy 1 toon?</p></blockquote><p>Last I checked, guilds do NOT get copied over to Test Copy regardless of whether or not the character is a leader.</p></blockquote><p>There has to be a way i doubt peopel spent the tiem to grind guild lvl on test copy for a t3 guild hall.</p></blockquote><p>it also takes time for your guild to show up, but yes, they DO copy over with the leader</p></blockquote><p>Now how much time and which "leader"  all my toons are top rank and the toon that started the guild is deleted.</p>

[Vraeth]

<p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Vraeth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>madhatr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The scripts are running, its just taking awhile because we ran about 7 days worth of copies.  The more you /testcopy, the more you will slow down the scripts.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>If you've queued for copy once in the past few days, you should show up soon.  If you aren't there by end of day tomorrow, then try it again.</p><p>As far as houses go, they get copied immediately with your character.  However, the exterior zones only load the list of houses when the zones come up.  So if your house is off of Qeynos Harbor, clicking on the door will not show your house until the zone restarts.  Most of those exterior zones are permanent and won't restart until we bring the Test Server down.  This is why it appears that your houses show up later.</p></blockquote><p>all my alts are in my alt guild and tehy are all leaders, i though tat least 1 of them would bring the guild over witht them to test?.. do i need to demote all but 1 and copy 1 toon?</p></blockquote><p>Last I checked, guilds do NOT get copied over to Test Copy regardless of whether or not the character is a leader.</p></blockquote><p>There has to be a way i doubt peopel spent the tiem to grind guild lvl on test copy for a t3 guild hall.</p></blockquote><p>it also takes time for your guild to show up, but yes, they DO copy over with the leader</p></blockquote><p>Now how much time and which "leader"  all my toons are top rank and the toon that started the guild is deleted.</p></blockquote><p>couple days, about the same as for houses. and any current leader copied will have their guild transferred, but for any other leaders after the first one the guild name will have an X added to the name if you copy them too.</p><p>so for ex. the guild 'the cool guys' has 3 leaders, johnny, jim and jack, and jim is copied first, his guild will be 'the cool guys', and say jack is next, with 'the cool guysx' then johnny with 'the cool guysxx'. but ofc you can leave the other guilds to join your first one</p>

[Svetty]

<p><cite>azraelteir wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span>I think the only complaint I have is that by flipping the PVP switch and not letting it be known in some way, you are just openly inviting some PVP players to go on an open killing spree on anyone who is not a PVP player and that is far from a true test of PVP.  If the Development team had announced it was going to become PVP enabled for a while, people might have complained anyway, but at least they would have known in advance and could have stayed away till the switch was flipped back to PVE.  Some people just do not like PVP, myself included, and as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles then I could care less if they flip the switch from time to time as they feel the need.  </span></span></div><div> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span>I just think for it to be a true test of the PVP changes you need PVP players who are going go fight and fight back, not just PVP players killing unsuspecting PVE players, honestly thats not PVP nor is it a true test of PVP.  Just like I dont think a true or fair test of PVE can be accomplished on a PVP enabled server, I wouldn't be able to check new quests or features as well if I feel I have to watch my back at all times because a PVP player might walk up and kill me</span></span></div></blockquote><p>Kiara did post yesterday that test_copy would be pvp when it came back up from updates yesterday.  The PVP'ers copying over to test things do not know if you were from a pve server or not.  We just see someone on the opposing faction and we kill them.  That is the only way we have to test our changes.  </p><p>You say "<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles".  I will remind you that t</span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">here is another server that is entirely dedicated to solely testing PVE changes.  It is called Test.  Also, most of the time Test_Copy is a PVE testing server.  It is rarely switched over to PVP, even though it was originally Test_PVP.  PVE changes are always "tested" before going live; whereas, not all pvp changes get tested before going live.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">There is no reason you cannot test PVE changes while Test_Copy is PVP enabled.  Just remember to bank your cash before you go out to quest and if you die big deal.  Its not like you care about your PVP kvd or your title.  Just respawn and go about your business.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">Everyone is acting like the PVP'ers that are hitting Test_Copy are they Visigoths sacking the poor, unsuspecting Vandals.  We do not know who is who and really we don't care.  We are there to test the changes that affect us, ie both the pvp and pve updates that will be introduced with GU53. </span></p>

[Landiin]

I wish you wouldn't attack us PvE people on the forums Svetlanavera, we didn't know it was PvP until we zoned in..

[Svetty]

<p><cite>Toran@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I wish you wouldn't attack us PvE people on the forums Svetlanavera, we didn't know it was PvP until we zoned in..</blockquote><p>I wasn't attacking anyone.  LOL </p><p>It was announced yesterday that the server was going back to pvp. </p>

[Landiin]

Oh sorry I misunderstood.

[Katz]

<p><cite>Vraeth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>its just the guild halls that dont copy</p></blockquote><p>That explains why I got the message that my guild had copied over but the guild hall door and the call to guild hall wouldn't work.</p>

[Katz]

<p><cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>azraelteir wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span>I think the only complaint I have is that by flipping the PVP switch and not letting it be known in some way, you are just openly inviting some PVP players to go on an open killing spree on anyone who is not a PVP player and that is far from a true test of PVP.  If the Development team had announced it was going to become PVP enabled for a while, people might have complained anyway, but at least they would have known in advance and could have stayed away till the switch was flipped back to PVE.  Some people just do not like PVP, myself included, and as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles then I could care less if they flip the switch from time to time as they feel the need.  </span></span></div><div> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span>I just think for it to be a true test of the PVP changes you need PVP players who are going go fight and fight back, not just PVP players killing unsuspecting PVE players, honestly thats not PVP nor is it a true test of PVP.  Just like I dont think a true or fair test of PVE can be accomplished on a PVP enabled server, I wouldn't be able to check new quests or features as well if I feel I have to watch my back at all times because a PVP player might walk up and kill me</span></span></div></blockquote><p>Kiara did post yesterday that test_copy would be pvp when it came back up from updates yesterday.  The PVP'ers copying over to test things do not know if you were from a pve server or not.  We just see someone on the opposing faction and we kill them.  That is the only way we have to test our changes.  </p><p>You say "<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles".  I will remind you that t</span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">here is another server that is entirely dedicated to solely testing PVE changes.  It is called Test.  Also, most of the time Test_Copy is a PVE testing server.  It is rarely switched over to PVP, even though it was originally Test_PVP.  PVE changes are always "tested" before going live; whereas, not all pvp changes get tested before going live.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">There is no reason you cannot test PVE changes while Test_Copy is PVP enabled.  Just remember to bank your cash before you go out to quest and if you die big deal.  Its not like you care about your PVP kvd or your title.  Just respawn and go about your business.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">Everyone is acting like the PVP'ers that are hitting Test_Copy are they Visigoths sacking the poor, unsuspecting Vandals.  We do not know who is who and really we don't care.  We are there to test the changes that affect us, ie both the pvp and pve updates that will be introduced with GU53. </span></p></blockquote><p>As I play on a PvE server and have no idea how the PvP servers function, would you mind listing a "heads-up" list for us?</p><p>You said to bank your cash before you go out to quest.  Does this mean that your cash can be taken from you?  What else should you look for?</p><p>I'm trying to decide if I just want to avoid test_copy while its PvP or if its something I can deal with fairly easily.</p>

[azraelteir]

<p>I wasnt referring to the anouncement that was made yesterday, but more to the previous update where no anouncement was made and people logged in to find it was PVP and they could be killed for no good reason.  I do understand that PVP is a valid playstyle and needs to be tested, and with proper notice I simply avoid test or stay in my house while on test, so as to avoid any unwanted (and one sided) testing to occur at my expense.</p><p>As for testing PVP against unsuspecting PVE players, I wouldnt necessarily consider it a fair and valid test as it is just a one sided test against an enemy that stood no chance.  Granted I understand you have no way to tell the difference, thats why I choose to stay out of the way by avoiding test while it is PVP enabled.</p><p>Thats all my point was, nothing more and nothing less.  Have fun testing, I will return when I hear PVP has been disabled.</p>

[Tabrina]

<p>Well I surely didnt know it was pvp till I saw the immunity bar then I knew. Since I used to have a slayer on Nagafen(deleted) I know the routine. Nonetheless I dont like pvp hence I play on pve. But whatever, a heads up would have been nice especially for folks that dont know what the immunity bar even means that have never played on pvp then get ganked out of nowhere.</p><p>But ok then I am aware  now so I will keep a heads up, and yes I may be pve but I also suggest not attacking my brig unless its from very very far away or you have a group, and for a group, I have evac <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For anyone else well g/l living hehe</p>

[Nakaru-Nitepaw]

<p><cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">There is no reason you cannot test PVE changes while Test_Copy is PVP enabled.  Just remember to bank your cash before you go out to quest and if you die big deal.  Its not like you care about your PVP kvd or your title.  Just respawn and go about your business.</span></p></blockquote><p>Actually there is a reason. The regular Test server does not allow you to copy your live characters. This means you have to quickly level up a level 1 toon to 80 before the testing phaze ends, get your mythical (impossible on a server with only like 30 people), fabled stuff, masters, exc... Now if they allowed us to copy to test, that would fix the whole problem, but it would in turn cause more problems for people who actually play on test. My idea is they need to open another server. We could have 3 testing servers. Test, PvP_Test_Copy, and Test_Copy. Which they obviously wont do...</p>

[Efour EQ2]

<p>Rofl who cares if u die or lose all your cash its a test server..</p><p>/testcopy add - ta da your have money again</p>

[Fenix]

<p><cite>Katz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Svetlanavera@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>azraelteir wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span>I think the only complaint I have is that by flipping the PVP switch and not letting it be known in some way, you are just openly inviting some PVP players to go on an open killing spree on anyone who is not a PVP player and that is far from a true test of PVP.  If the Development team had announced it was going to become PVP enabled for a while, people might have complained anyway, but at least they would have known in advance and could have stayed away till the switch was flipped back to PVE.  Some people just do not like PVP, myself included, and as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles then I could care less if they flip the switch from time to time as they feel the need.  </span></span></div><div> </div><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"><span>I just think for it to be a true test of the PVP changes you need PVP players who are going go fight and fight back, not just PVP players killing unsuspecting PVE players, honestly thats not PVP nor is it a true test of PVP.  Just like I dont think a true or fair test of PVE can be accomplished on a PVP enabled server, I wouldn't be able to check new quests or features as well if I feel I have to watch my back at all times because a PVP player might walk up and kill me</span></span></div></blockquote><p>Kiara did post yesterday that test_copy would be pvp when it came back up from updates yesterday.  The PVP'ers copying over to test things do not know if you were from a pve server or not.  We just see someone on the opposing faction and we kill them.  That is the only way we have to test our changes.  </p><p>You say "<span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">as long as they give notice and equal test time to both play styles".  I will remind you that t</span><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">here is another server that is entirely dedicated to solely testing PVE changes.  It is called Test.  Also, most of the time Test_Copy is a PVE testing server.  It is rarely switched over to PVP, even though it was originally Test_PVP.  PVE changes are always "tested" before going live; whereas, not all pvp changes get tested before going live.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">There is no reason you cannot test PVE changes while Test_Copy is PVP enabled.  Just remember to bank your cash before you go out to quest and if you die big deal.  Its not like you care about your PVP kvd or your title.  Just respawn and go about your business.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">Everyone is acting like the PVP'ers that are hitting Test_Copy are they Visigoths sacking the poor, unsuspecting Vandals.  We do not know who is who and really we don't care.  We are there to test the changes that affect us, ie both the pvp and pve updates that will be introduced with GU53. </span></p></blockquote><p>As I play on a PvE server and have no idea how the PvP servers function, would you mind listing a "heads-up" list for us?</p><p>You said to bank your cash before you go out to quest.  Does this mean that your cash can be taken from you?  What else should you look for?</p><p>I'm trying to decide if I just want to avoid test_copy while its PvP or if its something I can deal with fairly easily.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/PVP" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/PVP</a></p>

[Thor71457]

Give an yell when the PVP testing is done. Will be back then. Have fun

[Loendar]

<p>Is this actually working yet?  I /testcopy add'd my toons just prior to the update.  Then again a couple days afterwards when they didn't appear... and now again this past Wednesday afternoon.</p><p>No mas</p>

[Juravael]

<p><cite>Loendar@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is this actually working yet?  I /testcopy add'd my toons just prior to the update.  Then again a couple days afterwards when they didn't appear... and now again this past Wednesday afternoon.</p><p>No mas</p></blockquote><p><span >Greetings,</span></p><p>I did a /testcopy add for my main character, Glenedhel ( Antonia Bayle ) and he copied over just fine. I noticed however that my guild did not copy over along with me even though I am the founder and leader. The only thing showing underneath of his name is <> with no text inbetween.</p><p>Is this something that needs to be fixed, should I delete him and try again or will the guild info transfer over at a later time? I was hoping to try out the new layout changes for the guild halls but I have no hall on Test either, although we do have a hall on live.</p>