UI Strobing in Windows 7

[MadGiggler]

<p>just wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue...</p><p>after installing Windows 7 and all the current drivers i have had on several occiations where i enter a zone my ingame window stays correct however any menu and UI item begins to strobe at a very rapid rate.  if i change the setting from Extreem quality where i normaly play to the dummyed down version i sometimes can get it to stabalize and play normal.  i have installed all the current drivers and reinstalled the OS and game from scratch i still get this problem.  the UI is also current and using a fresh install not just copying over the backup copy of the Sony folder.</p><p>any suggestons or comments are welcome, thanks in advance</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>MadGiggler wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>just wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue...</p><p>after installing Windows 7 and all the current drivers i have had on several occiations where i enter a zone my ingame window stays correct however any menu and UI item begins to strobe at a very rapid rate.  if i change the setting from Extreem quality where i normaly play to the dummyed down version i sometimes can get it to stabalize and play normal.  i have installed all the current drivers and reinstalled the OS and game from scratch i still get this problem.  the UI is also current and using a fresh install not just copying over the backup copy of the Sony folder.</p><p>any suggestons or comments are welcome, thanks in advance</p></blockquote><p>downgrade from the 190 drivers to the 189</p>

[Divine Illuminati]

<p>Woot??? Windows 7 is out already?</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite> </cite></p><p>downgrade from the 190 drivers to the 189</p></blockquote><p>This assumes that you are using the recent Nvidia drivers and it's probably the correct answer.  Some of the Recent Nvidia drivers have had issues with the game such as the one you are describing.  A driver rollback should correct the problem.</p>

[MadGiggler]

<p>i have tried "ALL" driver version for Win7.... the stobing is only in certain zones...  EX: Commonlands, VP, Traks, LavaStorm... </p><p>i can get this problem to occur in any zone if i uncheck the box in "atsomphere effect" for "Shimmer"  </p><p>its very strange that hte actual game stays normal...but all windows and hotbars strobe... using ProfitUI and the Default  i have even wiped the drive... clean install of the OS and installed EQ from the Cd's and patched teh remaining files, not a copy over... and i still have these issues.</p><p>/crossing fingers that when the release date for Win7 comes out... or sooner there might be a new driver from NVIDIA that fixes this issue.... creates quite the headake</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>MadGiggler wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i have tried "ALL" driver version for Win7.... the stobing is only in certain zones...  EX: Commonlands, VP, Traks, LavaStorm... </p><p>i can get this problem to occur in any zone if i uncheck the box in "atsomphere effect" for "Shimmer"  </p><p>its very strange that hte actual game stays normal...but all windows and hotbars strobe... using ProfitUI and the Default  i have even wiped the drive... clean install of the OS and installed EQ from the Cd's and patched teh remaining files, not a copy over... and i still have these issues.</p><p>/crossing fingers that when the release date for Win7 comes out... or sooner there might be a new driver from NVIDIA that fixes this issue.... creates quite the headake</p></blockquote><p>190.62 WHQL is out, does the same thing on the RTM (7600) version of Windows 7, the 186 series of drivers still work great. The issue has been reported on other games also and it is not nvidia video chipset specific.</p>

[MadGiggler]

<p>yes, i have 7600 installed and the issue still happens....   not sure exactly what else to try....   other then reinstalling Vista...but it is such a resource hog in comparision...haha or hope a new vid driver comes out and fixes the issue.</p><p>i also have Aion installed and am playing w/out any issues @ all... so not sure if this is a vid driver problem or an EQ vs. Win7 issue.  i dont have any issues in any other program but EQ and only in certain zones.   i hate /random problems /tough to troubleshoot  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>thx in advance for all the help/suggestions... @ least im eliminating things</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>MadGiggler wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>yes, i have 7600 installed and the issue still happens....   not sure exactly what else to try....   other then reinstalling Vista...but it is such a resource hog in comparision...haha or hope a new vid driver comes out and fixes the issue.</p><p>i also have Aion installed and am playing w/out any issues @ all... so not sure if this is a vid driver problem or an EQ vs. Win7 issue.  i dont have any issues in any other program but EQ and only in certain zones.   i hate /random problems /tough to troubleshoot  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>thx in advance for all the help/suggestions... @ least im eliminating things</p></blockquote><p>Have it happen on Vista also, if you read the other forums there are numerous incidents of this being reported on various applications</p>

[TalisX1]

<p>I run Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM, have an nVidia graphics card (8800GT), and am using driver version:190.38 and having no issues with eq2 whatsoever. I went to zones you mentioned and noticed no issues with menus or any other element. I tied unchecking shimmer and noticed no difference. Maybe try that driver version? Wish I had a better suggestion.</p><p>Silat of Nagafen</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>TalisX1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I run Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM, have an nVidia graphics card (8800GT), and am using driver version:190.38 and having no issues with eq2 whatsoever. I went to zones you mentioned and noticed no issues with menus or any other element. I tied unchecking shimmer and noticed no difference. Maybe try that driver version? Wish I had a better suggestion.</p><p>Silat of Nagafen</p></blockquote><p>It certainly doesn't happen with everyone but it is happening to a significant number of people.  I get the same issue on my computer when running the 190 drivers.</p>

[MadGiggler]

<p>ive tried drivers all the way back to 185._ _</p><p>so i dont think its nessassarly a driver issue, but tbh.... nothing else seems to make sence.</p><p>ill list my system, not that it will make any difference...but just incase <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>790i Ultra EVGA</p><p>4gigs of DDR3 2000mHz ram</p><p>(2) 280-GTX EVGA</p><p>3.33mHz Core 2 Duo</p><p>OS/Gaming HD on 300gig VelociRaptor Wester Digital (all other programs on other drives)</p><p>850w coolermaster PS</p><p>all liquid cooled and running @ 35c</p><p>as b4, suggestions, help very appreciated.   and if i could get "Frapps" to work w;/out getting the blue-screen-of-doom, id post it to illistrate.</p><p><img src="http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww70/Staxx-Bruiser/CIMG1253.jpg" /></p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>MadGiggler wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ive tried drivers all the way back to 185._ _</p><p>so i dont think its nessassarly a driver issue, but tbh.... nothing else seems to make sence.</p><p>ill list my system, not that it will make any difference...but just incase <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>790i Ultra EVGA</p><p>4gigs of DDR3 2000mHz ram</p><p>(2) 280-GTX EVGA</p><p>3.33mHz Core 2 Duo</p><p>OS/Gaming HD on 300gig VelociRaptor Wester Digital (all other programs on other drives)</p><p>850w coolermaster PS</p><p>all liquid cooled and running @ 35c</p><p>as b4, suggestions, help very appreciated.   and if i could get "Frapps" to work w;/out getting the blue-screen-of-doom, id post it to illistrate.</p></blockquote><p>Can you post the message from the blue screen crash?  The 2 issues are probably related.</p>

[MadGiggler]

<p> only get the blue screen when trying to run "Frapps" and i havent tried it in few weeks... i can give it a go latter tonight perhaps... might have to reinstall it----cant remember if i uninstalled it or not</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>MadGiggler wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> only get the blue screen when trying to run "Frapps" and i havent tried it in few weeks... i can give it a go latter tonight perhaps... might have to reinstall it----cant remember if i uninstalled it or not</p></blockquote><p>Please let us know the blue screen error message when you get it.  While the issues are manifesting in different ways, I'm betting that they're caused by the same thing.</p>

[MadGiggler]

<p>ok..... /boggle...  </p><p></p> <p>on a whim last night I uninstalled all of NVIDIA's programs from my box.... after reboot I installed the first Win7 driver 181._ _ and so far it seems to be solving my "strobing" issues.  the down side, isn’t there always a down side, my colors are different.... almost "hyper-colors" they look like they are glowing...  while this isn’t a terrible issue... I suppose it’s preferable <span> </span>to migraine creating strobing. BTW, i visited several of the zones last night where that UI issue has occoured in the past.../cross fingers that it stays this way.</p><p>i guess ill just wait and see what drivers they come out with in 1month for the public release.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>MadGiggler wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ok..... /boggle...  </p> <p>on a whim last night I uninstalled all of NVIDIA's programs from my box.... after reboot I installed the first Win7 driver 181._ _ and so far it seems to be solving my "strobing" issues.  the down side, isn’t there always a down side, my colors are different.... almost "hyper-colors" they look like they are glowing...  while this isn’t a terrible issue... I suppose it’s preferable <span> </span>to migraine creating strobing. BTW, i visited several of the zones last night where that UI issue has occoured in the past.../cross fingers that it stays this way.</p><p>i guess ill just wait and see what drivers they come out with in 1month for the public release.</p></blockquote><p>I'm glad to hear that the issue has cleared up, at least for now.  You should be able to manually set the graphics settings for EQ2 in the graphics card control panel if you wish.  There are a few settings in those options that might create the effect you're describing.  Digital vibrance in the color settings panel could result in the kind of graphics issue you're describing.</p>

[TSR-KenC]

<p>Glowing Hyper-Colors? Sounds odd - can you take a screenshot of a good example and post it here? It would certainly help.</p>

[MadGiggler]

<p>i did take some SS's and after uploading them to photobucket and accessing from my office computer.... i decided to take a look at them closley.... on my office screen the colors appear to be normal... thus i must conclude that its the NVIDIA drivers skuing my colors on my gaming maching.... the stobing has stoped... system is stable... so until they change out fo the 191 drivers... ill live wtih the "brite" colors on my gaming box.</p><p>thanks for all the suggestions....in the end... problem solved.../cross fingers it stays that way  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Dogcatdaddy]

<p>I'm having this issue on a new install of Windows 7 now.  Is using the older driver still the best way to temporarily fix this?</p><p>I did notice this only happens in windowed mode for me, when I switch to full screen the problem immediately stops.</p><p>Just wonder if there are there any plans to have this addressed in later updates.</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Dogcatdaddy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm having this issue on a new install of Windows 7 now.  Is using the older driver still the best way to temporarily fix this?</p><p>I did notice this only happens in windowed mode for me, when I switch to full screen the problem immediately stops.</p><p>Just wonder if there are there any plans to have this addressed in later updates.</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p></blockquote><p>At the moment I would still recommend the 186 drivers for the game.  Some people have had success with the 195 drivers as well, but I have not tested them yet so I'm hesitant to recommend them. </p><p>Regarding whether an update will address the issue, it would be better to direct that question at Nvidia.  Quite a few programs are having issues with the 190/191 series drivers and it doesn't seem specific to our games.</p>