Feedback-Chainlinks of Hatred

[EasternKing]

<p><span >Starting individual threads on items, so that 1 devs can find the info quickly and easily, 2 the people who have/use the items can also find the info quickly and add there own comments and views.</span></p><p><img src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa275/theeasternking_photo/avabp.jpg" width="600" height="758" /></p><p>So stats very close to each other same for resists and hp power, equal crit mit</p><p>7MC avabp - 7DB attack setbp</p><p>7MCB avabp - 5MCB setbp</p><p>+2 accuracy avabp - +100ca damage setbp</p><p>Focus BlackjackV reduces recast time of BlackJackV by 25secs setbp - avabp nada</p><p>Procs :</p><p>Ava BP : 10% MC 10% DB attk, 1099-1343damage</p><p>Set BP : 10dps 15% DB attk</p><p>black and white it looks pretty clear cut, Ava bp even nerfed seems to be better than the set bp just about, 2 more crit bonus 10% crit chance proc and the dps from the proc damage.</p><p>On live currently Ava bp proc does 140-200 ext dps for me, thats with the trigger % increases from troub/dirge/mystic with changes to mechanics and nerf to the damage ill be lucky to see 100dps from this item.</p><p>But again in fact the set BP is better than the new Ava bp, Clock ala Blackjack 5 does 270-300 dps for me on a usual zw thats a minute recast, if i wear my set by that is reduced from 1min to 35secs almost increasing my usage by 50% so i can expect my BlackjackV to be dealing in the region of 370-430dps for me, so in effect i lose the damage proc but gain it back again in extra CA damage from the effect to BlackjackV, then we add the 100ca damage which effects every single one of my damage dealing CA's, usually 50% of my zw dps and we see the set BP edge in front of the AVA bp in desireability.</p><p>I dunno how you are going to go about fixing this, but that ava bp needs to be better and clearly so than my set bp, atm on live it is, on test that is sadly not the case any longer.</p><p>Sadly Fyre you and the others have opened an unholy can of worms, because quite frankly there is such a small gap between the instance gear and the avatar gear, you have little to no room to actually make the avatar gear desireable after changing it so that people will still want to kill avatars and not quit the game, the only way you can do it, is to nerf he OP instance gear, but if you nerf that gear to make a clear deliniation, you need to nerf the T3 gear, and if you have to nerf the T3 gear, thats right you need to nerf the T2 gear and heroic drops and certainly the heroic drop fabled items</p><p>I know you were hoping to avoid that with gear degredation, but simply put you dont have room to, you either postpone the ava gear nerf to launch of Sentinels, or you nerf everything now, or you are going to fail to balance the gear, and you are going to kill high end raiding in eq2.</p>

[SinIsLaw]

<p>Just as a reference, how the Chainlinks are on live right now:</p><p><img src="http://eq2.xanadu-community.com/images/items/2778.jpg" width="273" height="670" /></p><p>+15 Base CA Dmg has been totally removed! and instead we got a weak 7 melee crit bonus/chance instead ... </p><p>Proc % lowered from 15% to 10%  Dmg on proc lower ...</p><p>I don't see how we are still calling this nerf, this is more like an item r a p e!</p><p>This is imho WAY to much of a cut, remove the 7 Melee crit bonus/chance and put back the Base CA Dmg, maybe not +15 but instead give us +12</p>

[doyler2k]

<p>Note also that it doesnt give any benefit to rangers who wasted dkp on this item.No ranged stat except on the proc.</p><p>If this went live my set bp would easily be better.For obvious reasons other than the base damage modifier being totally removed,rendering it next to useless.</p>

[speedycerv]

<p>http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/speedycerv/rangerbptso.png</p><p><img src="http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/speedycerv/?action=view&current=rangerbptso.png" /></p><p>.. image link isn;t working for w/e reason,</p><p>T4 set ranger set bp:</p><p>7ranged da,</p><p>5ranged crit bonus</p><p>75 ca mod</p><p>10 ranged da proc</p><p>vs New avatar bp.</p><p>It's odd how if you total the amount of melee crit on the new avatar bp while the proc is up and you will see this is more after the changes than the avatar bp on live. Then look at the ranged crit in the same light and you will see it was lowered after the changes. This is before even taking into account that the new avatar bp has melee crit bonus, and there is no ranged crit bonus.</p><p>The way this is currently on test, the ranger set bp is better than the avatar one, for these reasons: ranged double attack, ranged crit, ca mod and lastly but not least, Ranged Crit Bonus.</p>

[slippery]

Not to mention the fact that you could then put on your set bp and use it for a 6 set which is 10 crit bonus while taking off another piece of your set for say the gozak helm (you know, instance loot). The fact that the 6 set has to mentioned shows what is truly overpowered though, and it isn't the Avatar gear.

[Rippitt]

I'd rather keep the crit bonus and have more headroom for +base damage in the future. Still, it should be 10 crit bonus, and it needs to have ranged as well.