Ratonga history/lore in EQ2

[denmom]

<p>Could someone please direct me to where I can find info on Ratonga?  I've done the History book, but for what I need on Pheep's background, it's not helping.</p><p>What I'm namely looking for is when Ratonga made their appearance on Norrath, how many years ago.</p><p>Thanks much in advance!</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>From what I recall of doing the starting area quest and later the Wheel of Vaniki quest, they didn't make themselves known until the Rending.</p>

[Lodrelhai]

<p>There's an ongoing thread <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=186530" target="_blank">here</a>, got buried back a few pages.  The short answer is, not a lot known.</p><p>Suspicions, on the other hand, run wild.</p>

[denmom]

<p>Ahah, beautiful, thank you both!</p><p>I know Pheep's rather old, been working on her history a bit.  I'm an RPG player, old paper and pencils and dice player for 20 plus years.  Habits are hard to break. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  All of my toons have their own little stories and bgs, LoL.</p><p>Thanks again!</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>There's a fair chance the next expansion will give a little bit of lore behind the Ratonga.</p>

[denmom]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There's a fair chance the next expansion will give a little bit of lore behind the Ratonga.</p></blockquote><p>That'd be really great.  Maybe I can find some info at the Block Party.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>I say "Fair" chance because of the Hole, which contained generic named Ratmen, and the sealed off entrance to the Plane of the Underfoot.</p><p>Your best bet of finding anything will be related to that zone.</p>

[Jrral]

<p>Not sure about ratonga, but there's the questline that starts with <a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Disturbance" target="_blank">Disturbance</a> that involves the roekillik heavily.</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>There is more than a fair chance, since at the Lore Panel at Fan Faire, they told us that we'd definitely be learning more about the Kerra, Erudites and Ratonga this expansion.  So hopefully they let the rats... er Ratongas have their cheese.</p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Aeviel@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There is more than a fair chance, since at the Lore Panel at Fan Faire, they told us that we'd definitely be learning more about the Kerra, Erudites and Ratonga this expansion.  So hopefully they let the rats... er Ratongas have their cheese.</p></blockquote><p>Yep I remember that too, they baisically said that we will more or less find out why the Erudites changes, as well as get more lore on the Kerra trasformation, and even learn abit more about Ratman lore.</p>

[denmom]

<p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Not sure about ratonga, but there's the questline that starts with <a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Disturbance" target="_blank">Disturbance</a> that involves the roekillik heavily.</p></blockquote><p>I never did that..we should inflict that on ourselves one night. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[ratdeath]

<p>Roekilliks were assumed destroyeds, but the creator saveds a few locked away in the underfoot me thinks, them escapeds when the groundsis started to shake.  Us better then Roekilliks!</p><p>Did someone says cheese?</p><p>Here it says Ratonga lore under "New expansion":</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=454003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=454003</a></p><p>Me hopes it be true.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Squeeks!!</strong></span></p>

[Jrral]

<p>I'm recalling from the original Prima game guide that some of the first-iteration roekillik escaped from where they were locked away during the Shattering. They took up residence somewhere in the Underfoot and have been hunting down the second-iteration roekillik (ratonga) ever since.</p>

[ratdeath]

<p>If I am not mistaken I think there is a truce between the tiny rude ones and Ratongas now.</p>

[denmom]

<p>Okay, so to see ifn I understand...</p><p>1st gen Roekies, high psis, kinda looney, Brell locked away after stripping them down a bit.</p><p>2nd gen Roekies are what we know as Ratonga.  They were locked away underground, but when the Rendering happened which split the continents, they popped up around Freeport.  There's history with Lucan and FP, I just need to find that bit.</p><p>Yes?  No? O_o</p><p>/eyes Pheep   You're lucky I love you so much, old mouse.</p><p>*Pheep just smirks as she polishes her Truth of Marr and Zealot's Steel armour*</p><p>Player rolls eyes.</p>

[Dikatin]

<p>Actually Brell almost killed all of the first generation and only kept a few who he locked away deep in the underfoot. To the second generation it is stated afaik that they suddenly appeared in higher regions of the underfoot - seems that this happened even before the rending, though it isn't totally clear.</p><p>Ratongas seem to be closely bound to Norrath's inner rhythm, so they see and feel things other races don't.</p><p>Then there is this ominous guy named N'Gurai, dwelling in the former dark elf fortress of Anetiff - I wonder what's up with him.</p>

[ratdeath]

<p>We helpeds Lucan (Freeport) when it was under siege by making sure they got supplies into town through our hidden tunnels.</p><p>There is a human in Temple Street who complain about Ratonga and how a small deligation was allowed to see Lucan D'Lere and after that we just popped up from everywhere, like we just had been there all the time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>I have probably dreamt this but I think we also tried to talk to Qeynos but was frowned upon and not welcome. Think I read this somewhere on the EQ2 site years ago. Would be nice to have that verified.</p><p>Seem the Ratonga design is influenced by Ferengi (Star Trek) when it comes to mood and being oppertunistic.</p><p>"A deal is a deal until a better one comes along"</p><p>"Never cheat an Ogre (Klingon) unless you knows you can get aways with it"</p><p>I am looking forward to more Ratonga lore with the next expansion, I had decided to pass on EQ2 but then I saw the Ratonga race and here I am <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Squeek!</strong></span></p>

[denmom]

<p><cite>Piyorat@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We helpeds Lucan (Freeport) when it was under siege by making sure they got supplies into town through our hidden tunnels.</p><p>There is a human in Temple Street who complain about Ratonga and how a small deligation was allowed to see Lucan D'Lere and after that we just popped up from everywhere, like we just had been there all the time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>I have probably dreamt this but I think we also tried to talk to Qeynos but was frowned upon and not welcome. Think I read this somewhere on the EQ2 site years ago. Would be nice to have that verified.</p><p>Seem the Ratonga design is influenced by Ferengi (Star Trek) when it comes to mood and being oppertunistic.</p><p>"A deal is a deal until a better one comes along"</p><p>"Never cheat an Ogre (Klingon) unless you knows you can get aways with it"</p><p>I am looking forward to more Ratonga lore with the next expansion, I had decided to pass on EQ2 but then I saw the Ratonga race and here I am <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Squeek!</strong></span></p></blockquote><p>How many years ago from current time?</p><p>Bleh, I need a scorecard, LoL!</p><p>If what I found on EQ2i is correct, Norrath has a 3800 and change timeline from current time back.  This counts in Order of Rime.</p><p>So roughly 3300 or so is what I need to track down info on, if I'm reading the info I'm finding correct.</p><p>What confuses me is the timeline split...500 yrs ago is where Druzzil Ro split the timeline when he stopped the PoT from being invaded by sending the raiding force there to invade back, that's where EQ2 begins?  Or am I just being a really confused noob in this?</p><p>Thank you all for the info and the patience!  /bows</p>

[Wilde_Night]

<p>There are at least two stickied threads at the top of this forum that can ease your confusion.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[denmom]

<p><cite>Aeviel@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There are at least two stickied threads at the top of this forum that can ease your confusion.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Heh, should've looked there first...I tend to not look up at the top.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Thanks!</p>

[Jrral]

<p><cite>Pheep@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1st gen Roekies, high psis, kinda looney, Brell locked away after stripping them down a bit.</p><p>2nd gen Roekies are what we know as Ratonga.  They were locked away underground, but when the Rendering happened which split the continents, they popped up around Freeport.  There's history with Lucan and FP, I just need to find that bit.</p></blockquote><p>IIRC Brell didn't strip the 1st-generation down any. Therein lay the problem when they got out again after the Shattering.</p><p>Also IIRC the ratonga didn't need the Rending to get them out of the bottom of the Underfoot. They just kind of started popping up in the upper reaches when they shouldn't've been able to get there. Apparently Bristlebane gave them just a bit too much of his touch, and a mere couple of miles of solid, impenetrable rock isn't quite enough to keep a ratonga from getting into things they're not supposed to be into. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But yes, some of them ended up with the Freeport militia, and when the Shattering trashed the Underfoot the surviving ratonga joined them there.</p>

[Coniaric]

<p><cite>Jrral@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Pheep@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1st gen Roekies, high psis, kinda looney, Brell locked away after stripping them down a bit.</p><p>2nd gen Roekies are what we know as Ratonga.  They were locked away underground, but when the Rendering happened which split the continents, they popped up around Freeport.  There's history with Lucan and FP, I just need to find that bit.</p></blockquote><p>IIRC Brell didn't strip the 1st-generation down any. Therein lay the problem when they got out again after the Shattering.</p><p>Also IIRC the ratonga didn't need the Rending to get them out of the bottom of the Underfoot. They just kind of started popping up in the upper reaches when they shouldn't've been able to get there. Apparently Bristlebane gave them just a bit too much of his touch, and a mere couple of miles of solid, impenetrable rock isn't quite enough to keep a ratonga from getting into things they're not supposed to be into. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> But yes, some of them ended up with the Freeport militia, and when the Shattering trashed the Underfoot the surviving ratonga joined them there.</p></blockquote><p>The Shattering is the moon exploding. It's the Rending that forced the Ratonga to emerge from the Underfoot as Antonica is being split apart at the time. Caverns and tunnels collapsed and got disconnected all over the former continent. So it wasn't very safe to stay down there.</p><p>So they came out about 135-150 years before EQ2.</p>

[denmom]

<p>Hm, which is the more correct timeline info, Irishwonder or troodon?  Or just pick one, LoL?</p><p>I guess it can also be assumed that any of the evil classes in game now the Ratonga were in the Underfoot?</p><p>/eyes Pheep   You <strong><em>would</em></strong> have to be so old...</p><p>*Pheep just smiles enigmatically*</p><p>Some days I wonder just how much of her old ways she gave up becoming a Paladin...</p>

[ratdeath]

<p>*looks at Pheep*</p><p>Paladin?!?</p><p>What haves yous done! Come backs to Freeport, me teaches yous the right way of Shadowknight! Overlord protects uses.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Squeek!</span></strong></p>

[denmom]

<p>LoL! <cite>Piyorat@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>*looks at Pheep*</p><p>Paladin?!?</p><p>What haves yous done! Come backs to Freeport, me teaches yous the right way of Shadowknight! Overlord protects uses.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Squeek!</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>Heh. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>/indicates bio for her story</p><p>She's kinda had her fill of being an SK.</p>

[kyrr]

<p>"Qeynosians is more trustings than Freeportians. Much easiers to gets their shinies. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />"</p><p>(Xedia, ratonga illusionist)</p>

[Bellacouste]

<p>I's wanted to stays a Shadowy-Knight, but my silly little sister just had to go offs to Qeynos to become a Illusionist.  Freeport Militia wanted to hunts me downs after thats, so I's became a Paladin to spite thems. </p><p>At least I's don't haves to worries about the guards in Qeynos pulling my whiskers outs.  >V<</p>

[denmom]

<p><cite>Charlemin@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I's wanted to stays a Shadowy-Knight, but my silly little sister just had to go offs to Qeynos to become a Illusionist.  Freeport Militia wanted to hunts me downs after thats, so I's became a Paladin to spite thems. </p><p>At least I's don't haves to worries about the guards in Qeynos pulling my whiskers outs.  >V<</p></blockquote><p>The nice thing is eventually they stop freaking out at first sight and claiming "For the glory of Qeynos!".  /rolls eyes</p><p>You'd think they'd never seen a Paladin before.  /sighs</p>

[Homeskillet]

<p>You guys are lisping as you type.</p><p>Thought I should let you know.</p>

[DocFlareon]

<p><cite>Homeskillet wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You guys are lisping as you type.</p><p>Thought I should let you know.</p></blockquote><p>It's the Underfoot accent slipping through, not a lisp.</p>

[Tordal]

<p>ifs it helps mes ratonga swashbuckler, is definatly easiers to gets shinys!</p>

[denmom]

<p><cite>Tordal@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ifs it helps mes ratonga swashbuckler, is definatly easiers to gets shinys!</p></blockquote><p>Whoa, another 'Tonga Swashie.../thumbs up</p><p>I so love mine. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[denmom]

<p>Alrighty, thank you all so much for the info and patience!  I think I've a good idea where to start with Pheep's long life. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Charlemin@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>At least I's don't haves to worries about the guards in Qeynos pulling my whiskers outs.  >V<</p></blockquote><p>Don't your helmets do that for them? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Bellacouste]

<p>It woulds, if I's shows the helmets.  ;P</p><p>I'm very glad that they gave male Ratongas plain whiskers though.  The Freeport Militia pulling them out was my reasoning for not having any on him before, since I don't like the earrings or eyepatches.</p>