Monoliths and Destiny's Runes [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Coniaric

07-12-2009, 11:38 PM

These stones are found in Veeshan's Peak - the Athenaeum of Scale, I believe. Sixteen stones in all and they are inscribed with same cryptical runes on each, but with notable execptions of four as indicated in following:<img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3827/eq2monolith.jpg" />Make of them what you may. I don't believe the language or pictoglyphs, if such, exists as I know of.Another set of runes are from Chamber of Destiny. These are found on the floor surrounding the hole where the Leviathan once resided. I arranged them in the order I took them in so they should be relatively accurate. So here:<img src="http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3637/destinyrunesh.jpg" width="720" height="720" />There are 16 of these too. Interesting.So I have these archived here for anyone who may will like to see the images without going into the areas for whatever reasons.

Cusashorn

07-12-2009, 11:57 PM

We can translate the hanging tablets. I'm sure they're part of the game's language fonts.

Homeskillet

07-13-2009, 02:06 AM

Bear in mind I cannot see each fully but they each have the same exact characters on every line that is visible. The only difference being the sigil at the top of the four tablets.

Gala

07-13-2009, 04:49 AM

The text on the tablets are not found in the fonts.In the center of that room are also symbols but they do not match the levi room symbols.The levi room symbols look similar to the once from goblin language.(Well some etleast)

Llogwey

07-13-2009, 06:54 AM

there is another set of 16 runes... those directly pointed at in the center of the "monoliths" room in front of Druushk in VP. you posted the monoliths themselves with the four fire runes above but there are others on the floor, directly facing each monolith... (the movie is not in its final state but you can already watch it here : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkbGBHiYprw&feature=channel">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkbG...feature=channel</a>&nbsp<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Gala

07-13-2009, 08:23 AM

##: Color Language Letter Resemblance01: Purple: Ogre D ?02: Blue: ? ? Moon03: Orange: Ogre JVL ?04: Green: ? ? C-shape05: Purle: ? ? Eye06: Blue: ? ? ?07: Yellow: ? ? ?08: Green: Goblin Z Tooth09: Red: Goblin W Triangle, Mountain10: Yellow: Goblin C Arrowhead11: Blue: Ogre HFCY Line12: Purple: ? ? ?13: Yellow: Goblin I Sun14: Blue: Goblin B Bird15: Green: ? ? ?16: Orange: ? ? Like a symbol near Druusk, S-shape with dotIll do more comparing when i get more time on my hands.And i also compared them with symbols from godking. They look somewhat simmilar but the destiny's runes seem more complex.

Kindayr

07-13-2009, 12:25 PM

I wonder if the Monoliths from DoF have anything to do with this.If I recall, wasn't one of the monoliths Rhoen, who we've discovered to be the first name of Theer.Also is the fact of 'Myr' showing up everywhere significant? (ie. Mistmyr, Monolith of Myr, one of the words of pure magic)

Greyquill

07-13-2009, 03:28 PM

Great finds. I guess I've never lingered long enough at Druusk to notice. Between the hanging panels and the Chamber of Destiny runes, I'm reminded of something Vhalen said here in regards to the "Monoliths"... wasn't it something to the effect of; think round or circular? Having the tablets in Druusk's room makes another kind of sense too... what better way to gain access to a hoard of draconic lore than to install a beholden puppet as thier new leader... sadly for him, he was beaten to the punch by our friend Venril.

Llogwey

07-13-2009, 04:04 PM

and also remember the Horns names... in the Chamber of Wind event in Chardok...

Coniaric

07-14-2009, 12:20 AM

I apologize for not having the images taken from the floor in same room with the monoliths. If I had them, I would had included those too.The writing is exactly the same on each stone. I stopped after 5th or so screenshot when I realized that detail. Other 4 are included due to the runes near the top.

BleemTeam

07-17-2009, 12:41 AM

This is one of the more productive posts in a long time, don't let it get burried.

ariasta

07-17-2009, 01:37 AM

wonder if these runes have to do with locking away something considering you have to free Druushk to fight her

TaleraRis

07-17-2009, 01:59 AM

That writing looks like a cruder version of what was given as the teaser about "The Future of EverQuest II"I like cryptograms and cryptoquizzes. Has anyone tried out any possible matches to see if they could figure the writing out that way?

Kindayr

07-21-2009, 01:14 PM

<img src="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/expansions/sentinelsfate/images/large8.jpg" width="640" height="373" />I was wondering if anyone can see any correlation with any of these runes and any of the others.

Cusashorn

07-21-2009, 03:06 PM

<cite>Kindayr wrote:</cite><blockquote><img src="http://everquest2.station.sony.com/expansions/sentinelsfate/images/large8.jpg" width="640" height="373" />I was wondering if anyone can see any correlation with any of these runes and any of the others.</blockquote>The runes shown there are part of the Evilrune font. I forget what language that is.I can't quit make out the runes in the far back of the picture, but the 6 runes going from left to right is:D, K, Y, P, C, and F (backwords)

Aneova

07-22-2009, 02:09 PM

Does anyone have any pics of the floor that the monolith's from VP surround? i know there are more glyphs there.

BleemTeam

07-22-2009, 02:28 PM

There are also TONS of glyphs and runes in Trakanon's Lair.

Aneova

07-23-2009, 08:45 AM

<cite>Brailyn@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>There are also TONS of glyphs and runes in Trakanon's Lair.</blockquote>I asked for the monolith area because i think there are 16 runes on the floor (another version of the ones in the chamber of destiny) and it may give another bit of info to the puzzle to be solved.edit: stupid spelling error...

Cusashorn

07-23-2009, 12:28 PM

Well post a screenshot then.

Aneova

07-23-2009, 03:30 PM

I had asked if someone had them already but here ya go...<img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/Aneova/EQ2%20Lore/EQ2_000028.jpg" /><img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/Aneova/EQ2%20Lore/EQ2_000029.jpg" /><img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/Aneova/EQ2%20Lore/EQ2_000030.jpg" /><img src="http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/Aneova/EQ2%20Lore/EQ2_000031.jpg" />

Cusashorn

07-23-2009, 04:12 PM

Hmm. None of the fonts match those characters in the pictures. Not even Dragon. Doesn't even come close.

Ashe_Litheros

07-25-2009, 04:27 PM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>We can translate the hanging tablets. I'm sure they're part of the game's language fonts.</blockquote>Noob question inc, I'm just starting to really get into the lore of the game. Where can you find the language fonts?

Rezikai

07-25-2009, 09:23 PM

<cite>Ashe_Litheros wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>We can translate the hanging tablets. I'm sure they're part of the game's language fonts.</blockquote>Noob question inc, I'm just starting to really get into the lore of the game. Where can you find the language fonts?</blockquote>eh i think in your UI file or Fonts folder you can find them. itscool b/c u can copy and load them into MS word or notepad and use them there to..hehe.

Ashe_Litheros

07-26-2009, 04:35 AM

<cite>Rezikai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ashe_Litheros wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>We can translate the hanging tablets. I'm sure they're part of the game's language fonts.</blockquote>Noob question inc, I'm just starting to really get into the lore of the game. Where can you find the language fonts?</blockquote>eh i think in your UI file or Fonts folder you can find them. itscool b/c u can copy and load them into MS word or notepad and use them there to..hehe.</blockquote>They were, indeed, in a font folder inside my UI folder. thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

RaphaNissi

07-29-2009, 04:44 PM

I'm glad these were finally posted about! It's highly unlikely that the fact there are 16monoliths, 16 symbols in the Chamber of Destiny, and 16 symbols on the floor around the center column in Veeshan's Peak is a coincidence. My best guess would be that these are part of the "planar" type text we've seen on several objects like the Claymore that we've never been able to decipher.

BleemTeam

08-26-2009, 04:54 PM

page 2 really? This stuff needs to be solved... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" />

Barx

08-26-2009, 05:00 PM

<cite>Brailyn@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>page 2 really? This stuff needs to be solved... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>We don't have the font, we cannot easily translate it.You could try to brute-force it, or even use some crypto techniques to help but given the relatively small data set it's not a simple task.

Mustang8259

08-26-2009, 10:31 PM

<cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite><blockquote>These stones are found in Veeshan's Peak - the Athenaeum of Scale, I believe. Sixteen stones in all and they are inscribed with same cryptical runes on each, but with notable execptions of four as indicated in following:<img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3827/eq2monolith.jpg" />Make of them what you may. I don't believe the language or pictoglyphs, if such, exists as I know of.</blockquote>Crazy thing about those runes (which I didn't notice at first glance) Is that if i'm not mistaken none of those runes are on the same tablet twice... So how can it be words like we know that have the same 5 vowels repeatedly used throughout? The only other thing I can think of is maybe it's some sort of alphabet, but that idea is kinda screwy too, we only have 26 letters in ours, and there's 28 different symbols up on each, so is it an alphabet in another language that has more/different letters? Like spanish considers "l or ele" and "ll elle" to be different and "c or ce" and "ch or che" to be different? Do we ever see any of these exact symbols "written" somewhere else is another area perhaps in a different order, or where some of the symbols might be used repeteadly in the same "word/sentence." I admit to not being able to raid anymore myself so I have to rely on screenies others post to even have the ability to guess at some of this stuff =P

Barx

08-27-2009, 10:22 AM

<cite>Mustang8259 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Crazy thing about those runes (which I didn't notice at first glance) Is that if i'm not mistaken none of those runes are on the same tablet twice... So how can it be words like we know that have the same 5 vowels repeatedly used throughout? The only other thing I can think of is maybe it's some sort of alphabet, but that idea is kinda screwy too, we only have 26 letters in ours, and there's 28 different symbols up on each, so is it an alphabet in another language that has more/different letters? Like spanish considers "l or ele" and "ll elle" to be different and "c or ce" and "ch or che" to be different? Do we ever see any of these exact symbols "written" somewhere else is another area perhaps in a different order, or where some of the symbols might be used repeteadly in the same "word/sentence." I admit to not being able to raid anymore myself so I have to rely on screenies others post to even have the ability to guess at some of this stuff =P</blockquote>Hmm. In that case it's likely a symbolic / pictographic language, where symbols stand for either entire words or parts of words.So that rules out brute-forcing it as a simple letter substitution cipher.

AllaK_Bludwyng

08-27-2009, 08:08 PM

Isn't the spiral on the upper-right tablet the Rune of Oblivion?

Loxus

08-28-2009, 11:55 AM

How many dragons were in the orginal ring of scale in EQ1? What if the runes represent the dragons of the ring of scale? Is that possible?

AllaK_Bludwyng

08-28-2009, 07:46 PM

I was in the Haunted Mansion today, on test, and noticed this rune painted in blood on the floor of Joanne's room.<img src="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/e/f/ef6bc99cf48ee1fcd6e720a0ac1d496d.jpg" />

Cusashorn

08-28-2009, 08:38 PM

<cite>AllaK_Bludwyng wrote:</cite><blockquote>I was in the Haunted Mansion today, on test, and noticed this rune painted in blood on the floor of Joanne's room.<img src="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/e/f/ef6bc99cf48ee1fcd6e720a0ac1d496d.jpg" /></blockquote>That's really not anything new. The erudites use that as their cultural symbol. They call it the Rune of Sigil.Since the Haunted House is (as of last year) based off of Unrest, seeing it is nothing special, since Unrest itself was built by a family of Erudites.

AllaK_Bludwyng

08-28-2009, 09:09 PM

Except this is in Loping Plains, and the Rune of Sigil was not made by the owners, but by their murderers, in their blood. So, what were a bunch of Elf vampires doing using an Erudite symbol?

Rezikai

08-28-2009, 10:10 PM

<cite>AllaK_Bludwyng wrote:</cite><blockquote>Except this is in Loping Plains, and the Rune of Sigil was not made by the owners, but by their murderers, in their blood. So, what were a bunch of Elf vampires doing using an Erudite symbol?</blockquote>What Cusa means is that the zone art (layouts and such like the symbol) is based of the Unrest mansion which has the erudite symbols in it. The devs probably didnt spend the extra time to change zone art like that for a holiday event.

Barx

08-31-2009, 01:50 PM

Yeah. If it's reused art, then you can't really make conclusions based on the art. When you have a limited amount of art, reusing things for live events / holidays is a lot easier than trying to get brand new art.

Mustang8259

09-01-2009, 02:51 AM

<cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah. If it's reused art, then you can't really make conclusions based on the art. When you have a limited amount of art, reusing things for live events / holidays is a lot easier than trying to get brand new art.</blockquote>F*ing sad for the amount of money they must be bringing in from their SC stuff, but anyway =P Have we not found anywhere else that those runes have appeared on yet? I've looked in some of the dungeons I run occasionaly and haven't seen any, but I also can't raid due to time constraints... So any active raiders have more screenshots of runes from raid dungeons?