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Paikis

06-27-2009, 12:18 PM

Add a set of 3 new PvP items which allow you to store/reset 1 tree each. Just like the current AA mirror, they would be house items.Some classes basically have 1 spec that they use for everything, other classes have 2-3, and some would just like extra customization. I know that sometimes, i would like to get a bit more DPS on my templar, but I have one spec for full-healing, and another for full DPS. There is no room for a hybrid build for small-group PvP.I would like to have this be accessable by Exiles also. They PvP (some of em anyways) as well. Comments?

Orthureon

06-27-2009, 01:01 PM

<cite>Paikis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Add a set of 3 new PvP items which allow you to store/reset 1 tree each. Just like the current AA mirror, they would be house items.Some classes basically have 1 spec that they use for everything, other classes have 2-3, and some would just like extra customization. I know that sometimes, i would like to get a bit more DPS on my templar, but I have one spec for full-healing, and another for full DPS. There is no room for a hybrid build for small-group PvP.I would like to have this be accessable by Exiles also. They PvP (some of em anyways) as well. Comments?</blockquote>They should just upgrade the mirrors so you can straight up save 3 different profiles. You go to your mirror, and click the one you want to load. No swapping . Hell on the mirrors themselves, they should have an option to respec your lines, the same fees still apply.

ulleulle

06-27-2009, 01:32 PM

If i could quest myself to a third spec i wouldent mind if the quests took 1 month to complete =)Having a third spec for pvp would be the best thing since slized bread imho.This topic should prolly be in some other parts of this forum but this is always a start.CheersJabib

Jeht

06-27-2009, 03:50 PM

QQ

Desna

06-27-2009, 07:13 PM

Agree completely...I have two specs, and neither one of them I am completely happy with for pvp. In an ideal world I would love a full healing spec, my current hybrid spec, a full dps spec, and a pvp spec....but I'd be happy with one other.

Jeht

06-27-2009, 08:08 PM

We're lucky enough to have a mirror that gives us the chance to have two specs, stop crying.

Guld_Ulrish

07-08-2009, 05:31 AM

I would like this, 1 raid spec, 1 pvp spec and 1 farm spec.

Azol

07-08-2009, 05:59 AM

Also add option to change your class, gender and race with this mirror, because God forbid PVPing unless you are ratonga male brigand. No.

Jeht

07-08-2009, 08:09 PM

<cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>We're lucky enough to have a mirror that gives us the chance to have two specs, stop crying.</blockquote>

Borias

07-08-2009, 08:29 PM

A 3rd option would be nice for certain classes, and unneeded for others.I'm all for having a 3rd mirror option, even though I would probably never use it. The 2nd option was introduced for raiders, why not have a 3rd for pvpers? It certainly wouldn't unbalance things.

Grayspirit

07-08-2009, 09:47 PM

<cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>We're lucky enough to have a mirror that gives us the chance to have two specs, stop crying.</blockquote>

Borias

07-08-2009, 10:48 PM

<cite>ulleulle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Having a third spec for pvp would be the best thing since slized bread imho.</blockquote>

Jeht

07-08-2009, 10:56 PM

Yeah, it would be nice to have, but we do NOT need it. Why ask for something you don't need? If people keep asking for every little thing they WANT we won't get the stuff we actually need.

Borias

07-09-2009, 12:46 AM

We don't NEED level locking either. This however is something that could be done with a minimal amount of effort, which is something every boss or programmer likes to do. It's not as if we have a set number of changes to the game that we can get per year or something and if we change mirrors then we won't get level locking or something.

Paikis

07-09-2009, 01:03 AM

What is this? Exile's Against Absolutely Everything We Didn't Suggest?? EAAEWDS for short?

Jeht

07-09-2009, 04:21 AM

QQ

Paikis

07-09-2009, 08:07 AM

Does your keyboard have other letters or is it just the one giant Q key?

Azekah1

07-09-2009, 10:19 AM

<cite>Paikis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Does your keyboard have other letters or is it just the one giant Q key?</blockquote><img src="http://spicytunas.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mage-keyboard.jpg" width="1074" height="525" />

Borias

07-09-2009, 11:09 AM

That's an awesome picture.But really, for those against the idea, why? Other than "just 'cause". Would it really shatter your world for people to have a raid spec, a pvp spec, and a 3rd for fun?

Azol

07-09-2009, 11:45 AM

<cite>Borias@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>But really, for those against the idea, why? Other than "just 'cause". Would it really shatter your world for people to have a raid spec, a pvp spec, and a 3rd for fun?</blockquote>Even allowing everyone to carry those AA mirrors in backpacks won't shatter the world, but don't you think it will be too cheesy-easy? Basically you are asking for 3 AA specs to be called "Rock AA spec", "Paper AA spec", "Scissors AA spec".There was a reason those mirrors were made with several restrictions on them (house item only, 2 specs). You have your 2 AA specs and you have to sacrifice some of your abilities each time you respec. 3rd spec won't change anything. Honestly, I believe those mirrors should not be allowed into the game at all. It can go on indefinitely: "Okay, 1 more spec to fight mages, just one more to fight those %$#% healers, one more for power regen... And, oh yes, allow us to change AA specs on-the-fly!"No big deal really, but that will just open another big can of worms "why don't we change this-and-that just for fun?" So the short answer is "No, just because". Too many changes "for fun" used to ruin the PVP, as usual.

Orthureon

07-09-2009, 02:55 PM

<cite>Azol@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Borias@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>But really, for those against the idea, why? Other than "just 'cause". Would it really shatter your world for people to have a raid spec, a pvp spec, and a 3rd for fun?</blockquote>Even allowing everyone to carry those AA mirrors in backpacks won't shatter the world, but don't you think it will be too cheesy-easy? Basically you are asking for 3 AA specs to be called "Rock AA spec", "Paper AA spec", "Scissors AA spec".There was a reason those mirrors were made with several restrictions on them (house item only, 2 specs). You have your 2 AA specs and you have to sacrifice some of your abilities each time you respec. 3rd spec won't change anything. Honestly, I believe those mirrors should not be allowed into the game at all. It can go on indefinitely: "Okay, 1 more spec to fight mages, just one more to fight those %$#% healers, one more for power regen... And, oh yes, allow us to change AA specs on-the-fly!"No big deal really, but that will just open another big can of worms "why don't we change this-and-that just for fun?" So the short answer is "No, just because". Too many changes "for fun" used to ruin the PVP, as usual.</blockquote>Man you must view the glass as completely empty! Three AA specs will not cause some disaster to happen in Norrath and wipe out the game. Three specs is useful, not just for PVP, but for PVE. I think you only have two different specs that work for you, so anymore would be seen as helping other classes.As for the chain reaction that would occur from this, that is a far fetched idea. New ideas will ALWAYS present themselves, people will ALWAYS ask for something they want to see in-game. If you ran the world I think we wouldn't even have computers now, after all they were something that we didn't need.

Jeht

07-09-2009, 03:26 PM

<cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>QQ</blockquote>

Azol

07-09-2009, 04:16 PM

<cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Man you must view the glass as completely empty! Three AA specs will not cause some disaster to happen in Norrath and wipe out the game. Three specs is useful, not just for PVP, but for PVE. I think you only have two different specs that work for you, so anymore would be seen as helping other classes.</blockquote>Wel, there are many reasons something don't get handed to you on silver platter.If you absolutely have to be in some 3rd AA spec then GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE AA tree RESET from merchant. With so many ways of getting plat in TSO the price for n-th respec is laughable.This topic is just an idle fancy, nothing more - sorry about that. This is only my opinion though.P.S. I still believe ONE AA spec and NO MIRROR at all would be great. Hardcore mode, so to say, as with the forge killing the crafter. Perform well in raid or in PVP or be average in both. But I guess it would hurt your casual playstyle. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />

Greggthegrmreapr

07-09-2009, 09:34 PM

It would be nice to have a 3rd spec available. I've got 2 specs that I run in currently. One is PvP spec that I use for PvP (obviously) and when I'm out solo. The other is my raid/heal spec. There are abilities I get from both that are useless unless I am doing one of those things they are set for. If I take my PvP spec on a raid, Scourge is pretty much useless as is Immunities as it only affects up to level 80 spells. If I am out solo in my raid spec, I can't use alacrity on myself.I would love to have a 3rd slot to get Scourge and Alacrity for My PvP groupings, but I need my dog for DPS when soloing, so I can't drop it for alacrity in case I'm solo. It is a viscious circle!Make it stop! 3rd AA mirror slot in '09!

Orthureon

07-10-2009, 01:03 PM

<cite>Azol@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Man you must view the glass as completely empty! Three AA specs will not cause some disaster to happen in Norrath and wipe out the game. Three specs is useful, not just for PVP, but for PVE. I think you only have two different specs that work for you, so anymore would be seen as helping other classes.</blockquote>Wel, there are many reasons something don't get handed to you on silver platter.If you absolutely have to be in some 3rd AA spec then GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE AA tree RESET from merchant. With so many ways of getting plat in TSO the price for n-th respec is laughable.This topic is just an idle fancy, nothing more - sorry about that. This is only my opinion though.P.S. I still believe ONE AA spec and NO MIRROR at all would be great. Hardcore mode, so to say, as with the forge killing the crafter. Perform well in raid or in PVP or be average in both. But I guess it would hurt your casual playstyle. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Ah I see your perspective now! So that means threads like the one where you were complaining about healers owning you in PVP because of crit mit should stop? Gotcha, well then again from your view only yours matters heh, goodluck with that!

Azol

07-10-2009, 05:00 PM

Hmm.. comparing mountains to anthills... way to go. Proposed change is purely cosmetic. Need the 3rd, 4th and so on AA spec? Purchase a respec each time! And healers have easy time in TSO, I can repeat this for you. Even terribly geared Warden is a pain to kill and it's a matter of pure RNG if I manage to do that or not before I run OOP. Sometimes I do, oh lucky me.

Borias

07-10-2009, 05:37 PM

It's a quality of life change. Mirrors were put in for people on blue servers to have 2 raid specs. Why is it so unreasonable for people on a server with pvp to want an option for that too?Gosh, it would make people happy, let's certainly not do it!

Jeht

07-10-2009, 06:19 PM

<cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>QQ</blockquote>

Kiara

07-10-2009, 07:08 PM

<cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>QQ</blockquote></blockquote>Bye bye <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

ulleulle

07-11-2009, 09:02 AM

<cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>QQ</blockquote></blockquote>Wow talk about being negative.It is absolutely within reason to ask for a third spec.But there is always those pesky little "Pro" players that hates everything us normal players would like.HeheOh well good to see you got what you deserved m8.Gonna leave you with thisYOU GOTTA BE TOUGH IF YOU WANNA BE DUMB!Sry to kiera for bad language, but some of these guys are just not getting the idea of what this game is about and for.THIS IS NOT A NERD SPORT.Join a real sportsclub if you wanna be good and exel at something meaningfull.This is a game designed solely to let ppl have fun and is not a measurement for how succesfull your life is =)CheersJabibp.s Dont hate =)

Greggthegrmreapr

07-11-2009, 09:27 AM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jeht@Vox wrote:</cite><blockquote>QQ</blockquote></blockquote>Bye bye <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I <3 Kiara.Marry me? Kkthxx. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />