Max Avoidance Spec.

[Exordus]

<p>I'm looking for an AA spec with 160 AA's to maximize my avoidance. At the moment, my DPS isn't even worth the trouble in raids, so I might as well help the MT and MA as much as possible with my avoidance.  Any help?  Thanks.</p>

[circusgirl]

<p>One of the most important things to keep in mind when you are working on raid avoidance is that it is <em>uncontested</em> avoidance that is most important, as oppossed to contested avoidance (though both are useful).  This means that you should search for any items, food/drink, etc. that has a % chance to avoid a blow (for example, infusions/reductions with 2.2% chance to dodge, or the fabled wrist adorns with 3% chance to parry).  As a monk, the vast majority of your uncontested avoidance is pegged to your defensive stance.  The only thing you can really seek out to buff your uncontested avoidance is deflection chance, which modifies BOTH your contested and your uncontested avoidance.  </p><p>Deflection chance is a multiplier for your deflection.  If your deflection is, for example, 50%, and you have 10% deflection chance, then your deflection becomes 50*1.1=55.  The same holds true for your uncontested avoidance, which is why this is such a useful means of increasing avoidance on raids.</p><p>So, long story short, go down the STR line, since it has deflection chance.</p>

[rabid.pooh]

<p>the shadows line also has Deflecting blows and Aversion which both add a 6% deflection chance respecitvely.</p>

[JinjAB]

<p>Am I right in thinking that our Avoidance lend has a limited distance/range that it will work in? For example, if I am one side of a zone and the MT is the other, the buff, although still on the MT, actually does nothing until I am within range, say 15m?</p>

[BChizzle]

<p><cite>Jinj@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Am I right in thinking that our Avoidance lend has a limited distance/range that it will work in? For example, if I am one side of a zone and the MT is the other, the buff, although still on the MT, actually does nothing until I am within range, say 15m?</p></blockquote><p>Correct</p>

[Exordus]

<p><cite>Vinka@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>One of the most important things to keep in mind when you are working on raid avoidance is that it is <em>uncontested</em> avoidance that is most important, as oppossed to contested avoidance (though both are useful).  This means that you should search for any items, food/drink, etc. that has a % chance to avoid a blow (for example, infusions/reductions with 2.2% chance to dodge, or the fabled wrist adorns with 3% chance to parry).  As a monk, the vast majority of your uncontested avoidance is pegged to your defensive stance.  The only thing you can really seek out to buff your uncontested avoidance is deflection chance, which modifies BOTH your contested and your uncontested avoidance.  </p><p>Deflection chance is a multiplier for your deflection.  If your deflection is, for example, 50%, and you have 10% deflection chance, then your deflection becomes 50*1.1=55.  The same holds true for your uncontested avoidance, which is why this is such a useful means of increasing avoidance on raids.</p><p>So, long story short, go down the STR line, since it has deflection chance.</p></blockquote><p>So then Claw Reversal (STR line) > Deflecting Pincers (STA line).  Is it worth the points to put into Deflecting Pincers at all then?</p>

[BChizzle]

<p><cite>Exordus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Vinka@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>One of the most important things to keep in mind when you are working on raid avoidance is that it is <em>uncontested</em> avoidance that is most important, as oppossed to contested avoidance (though both are useful).  This means that you should search for any items, food/drink, etc. that has a % chance to avoid a blow (for example, infusions/reductions with 2.2% chance to dodge, or the fabled wrist adorns with 3% chance to parry).  As a monk, the vast majority of your uncontested avoidance is pegged to your defensive stance.  The only thing you can really seek out to buff your uncontested avoidance is deflection chance, which modifies BOTH your contested and your uncontested avoidance.  </p><p>Deflection chance is a multiplier for your deflection.  If your deflection is, for example, 50%, and you have 10% deflection chance, then your deflection becomes 50*1.1=55.  The same holds true for your uncontested avoidance, which is why this is such a useful means of increasing avoidance on raids.</p><p>So, long story short, go down the STR line, since it has deflection chance.</p></blockquote><p>So then Claw Reversal (STR line) > Deflecting Pincers (STA line).  Is it worth the points to put into Deflecting Pincers at all then?</p></blockquote><p>No</p>

[circusgirl]

<p>No, you absolutely do not want to put points into Deflecting pincers.  This is not because deflection is inherently bad (its just not as good as deflection chance) it's because the sta line is utter and complete crap.  I would suggest str for sure, agi up through the reuse speed for sure, wis if you need help with AE damage, or int if you want more melee crit (int endline is crap too though for anything but soloing.)</p>

[Exordus]

<p><cite>Toesmash@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>the shadows line also has Deflecting blows and Aversion which both add a 6% deflection chance respecitvely.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I had Deflecting Blows maxed, but I must have misread the Aversion ability.  For some reason I thought it was only the combination stance.  I'll be added those 5 points to Aversion on my next respec.  Thanks.</p>

[Exordus]

<p><cite>Vinka@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, you absolutely do not want to put points into Deflecting pincers.  This is not because deflection is inherently bad (its just not as good as deflection chance) it's because the sta line is utter and complete crap.  I would suggest str for sure, agi up through the reuse speed for sure, wis if you need help with AE damage, or int if you want more melee crit (int endline is crap too though for anything but soloing.)</p></blockquote><p>Thanks again.  I've Respec'd like 5 times in the last week trying out new builds to maximize avoidance.  I had both maxed (Pincers and Claw) out but will be changing that ASAP.  Not sure where I'll put the rest of my points though...probably back into INT to max out Crit. and then finish up with maxing out Ambidexterity.</p>

[Cozumel]

<p>If your DPS isn't up-to-par..you've got bigger problems than just "providing" avoidance for the MT/MA.</p><p>Honestly, I don't know how you aren't doing decent dps.  I usually come in 3rd-6th on the parse for almost every fight when raiding, with my average DPS @ 5.5-6.5k.</p><p>Perhaps you're simply not geared enough?</p>

[Exordus]

<p>Gear is a big issue since i've been out of the game since most of lastest expansion.  So i'm fully geared with VP items, but when I came back i'm now 60 AA short of everyone else, and didn't have any of the new gear.  Which, some of the legendary gear you get from shards is better then some of the VP gear. lol   There is no way I can keep up on parses with 200 AA and better geared melee's.</p>

[lavrence]

<p><cite>Exordus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Gear is a big issue since i've been out of the game since most of lastest expansion.  So i'm fully geared with VP items, but when I came back i'm now 60 AA short of everyone else, and didn't have any of the new gear.  Which, some of the legendary gear you get from shards is better then some of the VP gear. lol   There is no way I can keep up on parses with 200 AA and better geared melee's.</p></blockquote><p>Pretty much for DPS and AAs alls you really need is 70 due to the fact that TSO lines are geared towards us being tanks and the Monk line are close to garbage for DPS, as for the gear you can gear up into shard gear pretty quick i think it only took me a week to get a full set of t2 you will just have to know what you want and get it smartly, i would start with the wilderness warrior shoulders and go from there mixing wilderness and the centered sets. Get the gear and worry about the AAs after (you will get a ton as you do the instances anyway) 200 AA does help some but as far as DPS goes it really doesnt help much.</p><p style="text-align: center;">~~Lavrence Starleaf~~~~80 Monk~~</p>

[circusgirl]

<p>Gearwise for DPS: get 3 pieces of wilderness warrior shard gear for the +base CA damage setbonus, and 3 pieces of T3 dps set from WoE to get the +base CA damage there as well.</p><p>Note that this setup is not ideal for tanking.</p>

[BChizzle]

<p><cite>Vinka@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Gearwise for DPS: get 3 pieces of wilderness warrior shard gear for the +base CA damage setbonus, and 3 pieces of T3 dps set from WoE to get the +base CA damage there as well.</p><p>Note that this setup is not ideal for tanking.</p></blockquote><p>That setup is fine for tanking anything outside of raid mobs.</p>

[lavrence]

<p><cite>BChizzle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Vinka@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Gearwise for DPS: get 3 pieces of wilderness warrior shard gear for the +base CA damage setbonus, and 3 pieces of T3 dps set from WoE to get the +base CA damage there as well.</p><p>Note that this setup is not ideal for tanking.</p></blockquote><p>That setup is fine for tanking anything outside of raid mobs.</p></blockquote><p>that setup is fine for tanking trash in Tomc and poao as well as almost all of woe.</p>