Digging Deeper - Najena's Hollow Tower Single Shard Quest

[Queen Alexandria]

<p>Tonight was the 5th time I've had issues where some of my group mates forgot to share the shard quest and realize that were missing 2 of the "Fire Ogre Najenaar Guards".  Can you please add a few extras either to the last encounter or somewhere in the middle?</p><p>This is very annoying, and specially tonight since i needed 12 shards for a Ward of Elements mold and was one shard short from having 12.</p><p><img src="http://www.maineweb.net/alain/stupidshard.jpg" width="428" height="790" /></p><p>Yeah, great isn't it? The flame guards are abundant, but theres exactly 15 ogre guards, no more no less.</p>

[Kizee]

<p><cite>Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Tonight was the 5th time I've had issues where some of my group mates forgot to share the shard quest and realize that were missing 2 of the "Fire Ogre Najenaar Guards".  Can you please add a few extras either to the last encounter or somewhere in the middle?</p><p>This is very annoying, and specially tonight since i needed 12 shards for a Ward of Elements mold and was one shard short from having 12.</p><p><img src="http://www.maineweb.net/alain/stupidshard.jpg" width="428" height="790" /></p><p>Yeah, great isn't it? The flame guards are abundant, but theres exactly 15 ogre guards, no more no less.</p></blockquote><p>Suggestion: quit being lazy and get the quest yourself then you won't have to worry about people forgetting to share it. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Wullail]

<p><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Suggestion: quit being lazy and get the quest yourself then you won't have to worry about people forgetting to share it. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>QFE , I always get the solo shard quest myself or remember to ask for shared quests before starting out any instance.</p>

[revren]

<p>Hey Hey</p><p>To be fair some times this happened to me for a variety of reasons, lack of sharing the solo shard quest , going LD, being asked to come in becouse some one had a random reason for leaving.</p><p>I am glad the people above me allways get there own quest , but sometimes us lesser mortals forget , **** Happens, atleast it only one shard not like they are hard to get, besides the real reason you go to the tower is to get the mage in your group the ring ;></p><p>Welcome Home</p><p>Rev</p><p>And by mage i mean warlock</p>

[Queen Alexandria]

<p><cite>Wullail@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Suggestion: quit being lazy and get the quest yourself then you won't have to worry about people forgetting to share it. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>QFE , I always get the solo shard quest myself or remember to ask for shared quests before starting out any instance.</p></blockquote><p>Seriously guys, theres plenty of reasons.  I was in a hurry because my party was waiting for me, we had the intentions of sharing the quest but zoned into a bad instance and the video started before it kicked us out of the zone. All of our clients locked up and after all this... the quest sharing got forgotten until the first guy was killed and someone had the bright idea to do it then.</p><p>The time before was the same idea, someone put a flag up from the guild hall so we could do a quick run and after killing the first set the quest was shared.  It goes on like this.... its not very hard to add a couple more mobs that update that quest just for the sake of being thorough.</p><p>I went LD one time and missed out on one update and couldnt finish it as well.  The list goes on.  Please im not asking for something out of the ordinary.  A lot of quests have plenty of mobs just for the oh xxxx factor.  This one could use a little love too and relieve frustration.</p><p>The quote from above is kind of like saying "Well you should avoid telephone poles, then you won't get into an accidents and hurt yourself."</p>

[Jonaroth]

<p>aye, they should change the ammount of ogre guards needed down to 10 or so, this has happened to me too, i was 3 short. we did a pull or two and then i relized i wasnt hearing ding sounds because i was too far away when the quest got shared. and no i wasn't too lazy to pick up the quest myself, the group zoned in soon as i zoned into LS so theres no chance to pick up the quest.</p>

[Gninja]

<p>I will take a look and see about lowering the amount of ogres needed for the mission.</p>

[Xalmat]

<p>Shouldn't need to, to be honest. There's more than enough ogres in the zone to complete the mission, if you get the mission before killing any.</p>

[Leovinus]

<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Shouldn't need to, to be honest. There's more than enough ogres in the zone to complete the mission, if you get the mission before killing any.</p></blockquote><p>Er, perhaps I'm nitpicking a little, but the entire complaint was that there <strong>aren't </strong><em>MORE </em>than enough, there are <span style="text-decoration: underline;">exactly</span> enough, making any late start fail at completing the mission.</p>

[Hellswrath]

<p>While I do agree that a late start will cause a fail on this mission, the same holds true for many of the shard quests.  I see no point in changing this one without the intent to change them all.</p>

[Gninja]

<p>If there are others that potentially cause issues then please point them out and I will look at if it needs adjusted.</p>

[vinere]

<p><cite>Gninja wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If there are others that potentially cause issues then please point them out and I will look at if it needs adjusted.</p></blockquote><p>You should consider adding some more mobs/pages to the abby quests.  Right now there is only the exact number needed.. thus if someone LD's or shows up late, they are SoL, Maybe make it so 1.5x the amount of mobs/pages needed spawn.. thus it cant be completed twice, but you can get around people that forget to get the quest on the way and didnt ask for it to be shard, or LD, or zoneout for some reason.</p>

[Zykdous]

<p>It's not always the persons fault they didn't get the quest themself.</p><p>There are plenty of times I'm the last one invited to group, and as soon as I zone into Lavastorm, Everfrost, wherever, I'm immediately being zoned into the instance by clickhappy group members.</p>