Poisons no longer critical?

[Magius789]

<p>I just read the update notes for the update today and under the AA section it mentions a change to an assassin AA line and it says poisons no longer criticial.  So what is the point of taking the INT line in the AA tree of poisons are no longer able to do critical dmg?</p><p>Edit:  nvm.  I see they changed the spell crit chance bonus in that line to just an overall increased poison dmg instead.  Still a very odd change though, I wonder why they made it so poisons can't critical anymore.</p>

[Zin`Car]

<p>they also no longer benefit from bonuses to spell dmg.</p><p>they do however (if i am not mistaken) still take advantage of higher intelligence.  You can check this by adding and removing gear with INT on it and see how (if) your poison dmg changes.  just remember to close the examine window and reopen it.  it wont change on the fly and you equip and remove items.</p><p>All crit type effects i think were made so that they no longer crit... be it spell or item effects.</p>

[Brimestar]

<p>Anyone test it out on test b4 the GU52 release or had a chance to try it out now (since GU52 is released)?</p>

[Zin`Car]

<p>came home on my lunch hour (benefits of living 5 miles from work!).  will give it a quick and dirty test run and see what happens.</p><p>EDIT:</p><p>Yes Intelligence still directly affects poison dmg. </p><p>I have 531 int and 8 points into Toxic Expertise.  Expert Hemo does 497. </p><p>if i drop my int to 483, Expert Hemo only does 486. </p><p>interesting to note that 48 points of intelligence only equates to about a 11 point difference in dmg.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I just read the update notes for the update today and under the AA section it mentions a change to an assassin AA line and it says poisons no longer criticial.  So what is the point of taking the INT line in the AA tree of poisons are no longer able to do critical dmg?</p><p>Edit:  nvm.  I see they changed the spell crit chance bonus in that line to just an overall increased poison dmg instead.  Still a very odd change though, I wonder why they made it so poisons can't critical anymore.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">The critical changes were designed to control procs.  Poison was affected as well but the replacement of +16% poison damage is completly unsatisfactory.  It should be at <em>least</em> 5% per aa.</span></p>

[bluefish]

<p><cite>Akodia@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I just read the update notes for the update today and under the AA section it mentions a change to an assassin AA line and it says poisons no longer criticial.  So what is the point of taking the INT line in the AA tree of poisons are no longer able to do critical dmg?</p><p>Edit:  nvm.  I see they changed the spell crit chance bonus in that line to just an overall increased poison dmg instead.  Still a very odd change though, I wonder why they made it so poisons can't critical anymore.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">The critical changes were designed to control procs.  Poison was affected as well but the replacement of +16% poison damage is completly unsatisfactory.  It should be at <em>least</em> 5% per aa.</span></p></blockquote><p>Nah, it's fine just the way it is .. in fact, we did tomb of the mad crusader and palace last night I didnt even notice a difference in dps compaired to before</p>

[Brimestar]

<p>I posted in the General Section for scouts, I personally have seen a 2-3% decrease in overall from my posions now. Ok, so my proc gear doesn't crit....Fine, but my posions..."you're killing me Smalls" (aka SOE).</p>

[Ranja]

<p>on raid yesterday i noticed that my homotoxins are still crittnig (so how is it with crits? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /> ) zonewide it was 11% crits which is my selfbuffed spell crit with highest crit of ~1600, avg hit 800.. also apply poison was critting on trouby with avg hit 1350 and 57% crit chance (should they crit or no?)</p>

[Adegx]

<p>If i recall correctly, when these changes were on the test server people noticed that frontload still made poisons crit.  But they dont crit normally anymore.</p><p>Double check your parse and see. I'm curious.</p>

[Ranja]

<p>im not frontload specced, checked parse and poisons are still critting, in group it is ~ 4% (thats my selfbuff after update) and in raid its ~ 11%, so for me, they are still critting according my actuall spell crit</p>

[Brimestar]

<p>If yall have read the upcoming xpac and such, apparently there is a reson to the madness....DA & Ranged DA will be under one stat and so will melee crit and spell crit. Apparently there will be co-efficients involved...But that is only the tip of the ice berg in terms of what they are consolidating.</p>